[00:00:01] >> THIS IS THE EDUCATION WORKFORCE COMMITTEE. [1. Roll Call - Announcement of a Quorum ] I WILL CALL ROLL. TRUSTEE BRAVO ARE YOU PRESENT? >> PRESENT. TRUSTEE JAMESON? >> PRESENT. >> TRUSTEE COMPTON? WE'LL COME BACK. TRUSTEE RITTER? >> P. RITTER: PRESENT. >> TRUSTEE WILLIAMS? TRUSTEE COMPTON? >> C. COMPTON: PRESENT. >> GOT YOU. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE QUORUM AND I WILL HAND IT BACK OVER THE THE CHAIR. >> THANK YOU. WE WILL GO AHEAD AND BEGIN WITH CERTIFICATION. [2. Certification of Notice posted for the meeting ] ACCORDING WITH THE SUSPEND RULE WE CERTIFY NOTICE OF THE COMMITTEE MEETING HAS BEEN POSTED ONLINE FOR AT LEAST 72 HOURS. MEMBER OF THE BOARD ARE NOT GATHERED IN A CENTRAL PHYSICAL LOCATION WE ARE HAVE A QUORUM IN THIS MEETING BY VIDEO CONFERENCE OR TELEPHONE CALL USING CISCO WEB EX. AS WE WOULD IN ANY INPERSON MEETING. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO HAVE FOLLOW LOUD INSTRUCTIONS FOR REGISTERING TO SPEAK WILL GO WILL BE UNMUTED FOR FIVE MINUTES TO SPEAK. 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Fall 2020 Enrollment Presenter: Beatriz Joseph ] THE FIRST WILL BE ON FALL 2020 ENROLLMENT AND WILL BE DONE BY DR. JOSEPH. >> LET'S SEE. DR. JOSEPH I BELIEVE YOU'RE SEE STILL MUTED. >> IT WILL HELP IF I UNMUTE. SORRY. GOOD AFTERNOON. THIS AFTERNOON I WILL BE SHARING WITH YOU INFORMATION REGARDING OUR FALL ENROLLMENT. WE CAN GO TO OUR NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO IN THE CONTEXT OF COHAVE YOU HAD. IT IS IMPORTANT TO REMIND OURSELVES SOME OF THE CHARACTERISTICS OF THOSE WHO WE SERVE. THIS FALL 72% OF OUR STUDENTS ATTENDED PARTTIME. 47% IDENTIFIED THEMSELVES AS PARENTS. OF THOSE WHO IDENTIFIED THEMSELVES AS PARENTS, 74% INDICATED THEY WERE SINGLE PARENTS IN MINORITIES. 62% IDENTIFIED THEMSELVES AS SINGLE PARENTS AND THEY WERE FEMALE. THE FALL SEMESTER HAS THREE MAIN PARTS OF TERM. 16 WEEKS, FIRST EIGHT WEEKS, AND SECOND EIGHT WEEKS. WHAT YOU CAN SEE IN THE SLIDE ILLUSTRATES ENROLLMENT COMPARISON BY THESE PARTS OF TERM BETWEEN LAST FALL AND THIS FALL. REGISTRATION STARTED ON APRIL 21ST WHICH IS YOU MIGHT RECALL WAS IN THE [00:05:04] MIDDLE OF THE STAY AT HOME ORDER. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE FIRST TWO TERMS AND THE SECOND EIGHT WEEKS THAT MIGHT IN THE SECOND INCREASED ENROLLMENT: THE SECOND EIGHT WEEK CLASSES STARTED ON OCTOBER 19TH WHICH MIGHT HAVE GIVEN OUR STUDENTS MORE TIME TO SORT THEMSELVES OUT AND THEIR FAMILY SITUATION OUT AS YOU MIGHT RECALL ISDS HAD NOT FIRMED UP WHEN CLASSES WERE STARTING. A LOT OF INDIVIDUALS HAD THEIR CHILDREN AT HOME AND THEY WERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE ARRANGEMENTS FOR THE CUDS TO GO TO SCHOOL KIDS TO GO TO SCHOOL REMOTELY SO THEY COULD HAVE TIME TO GO TO SCHOOL. THAT PROVIDES SOME CONTEXT FOR THE SITUATION IN THOSE PARTICULAR TERMS. WINTER MESTER WE DON'T HAVE INFORMATION YET BECAUSE IT HAS NOT STARTED. REGISTRATION DOES NOT START UNTIL NOVEMBER 17TH. NEXT SLIDE. THIS SLIDE PROVIDES US WITH ENROLL. BY STUDENT TYPE. AS YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE OUR LARGEST INCREASE HAS BEEN ON ECHS AND PTECH CONTINUING STUDENTS WITH AN INCREASE IN 29% ENROLLMENT AND A 17% INCREASE ENROLLMENT OF DUAL CREDIT STUDENTS WHO ARE CONTINUING STUDENTS. THAT IS GOOD NEWS BECAUSE ECHS AND DUAL CREDIT SERVE STUDENTS WHO ARE HISTORICALLY UNDER SERVED, AT RISK AND ECONOMICALLY DISADVANTAGED. >> QUESTION. >> YES. >> SO WE UNDERSTAND THAT THESE NUMBERS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, NEGATIVE IN SEVERAL AREAS BECAUSE OF THE VIRUS. NOW WE'RE WHAT? SIX, SEVEN MONTHS INTO THIS? >> YES. >> WHAT ARE WE DOING PREPARE FOR THE SPRING ENROLL. TO HOPEFULLY TURN THESE NUMBERS DOWN AND GET THEM TO MORE NORMAL LEVELS? >> SURE. THERE'S A THERE'S SOME INFORMATION FURTHER DOWN. I CAN ADDRESS THAT NOW IF YOU WOULD WANT TO >> OKAY. >> YOU'RE SAYING THERE'S INFORMATION IN A FUTURE SLIDE? >> YES. >> OKAY. I'LL WAIT. >> SURE. THE INCREASES THAT YOU CAN SEE THERE ARE AS I MENTIONED IN ECHS AND DUAL CREDIT, THE DECREASES YOU CAN SEE ARE DO MAINLY TO THE IF FACT THE FACT THAT THE INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICTS DECIDED NOT TO ENROLL THEIR 9TH GRADERS WHO ARE HIGH SCHOOL FRESH THEIR FIRST COLLEGE COURSE IN THIS PARTICULAR ENVIRONMENT. BECAUSE THEY FELT THEY COULDN'T PROVIDE THEM WITH SUFFICIENT SUPPORT FOR THEM TO BE SUCCESSFUL. SO THOSE STUDENTS, THE INTENT IS FOR THEM TO REGISTER IN THE SPRING TERM. SO YOU COULD BE ABLE TO SEE THOSE INDIVIDUALS WILL BE ABLE TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE THE FIRST COLLEGE COURSE IN THE SPRING RATHER THAN THE FALL. >> DR. JOSEPH? >> GO AHEAD. >> GO AHEAD, JOE. >> I WAS GOING TO SAY IT'S PROBABLY NOT EVIDENT HERE, BUT THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THAT IS IMPORTANT. RIGHT NOW ABOUT ONETHURSDAY OF OUR CREDIT ONETHIRD OF OUR CREDIT STUDENTS OR OUR PTECH, EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOLS ARE DUAL CREDIT. WHEN THE SCHOOLS MADE THAT DECISION THAT EFFECTED US IN WHAT WOULD BE THE LARGEST SINGLE BLOCK OF STUDENT POPULATION THAT WE SERVE. I'M SORRY PLEASE GO AHEAD. >> NOW I WAS GOING TO A QUESTION ABOUT PTECH AND EARLY COLLEGES AS WELL. THEY SEEM TO BE THE ONLY ENROLLMENT CATEGORIES NOT AFFECTED BY COVID. WE'VE BEEN SEEING GROWTH IN THOSE PROGRAMS FOR THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS SINCE THEIR INCEPTION. MY QUESTION IS, DOES COVID SUGGEST THAT MAYBE WE OUGHT TO DOUBLE OR TRIPLE DOWN ON PTECH AND EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOLS? COVID, NOT WITH STANDING, THOSE PROGRAMS ARE STILL GROWING. AND WE HAVE ADEQUATE CAPACITY IN PLACE TO ACCOMMODATE THIS GROWTH IF WE GO OVER MORE GROWTH IN THOSE AREAS, COULD WE HANDLE IT? >> I'LL COMMENT. THAT IS A SOMETHING WE HAVE NOT BACKED OFF ON AT ALL IN TERMS OF OUR OVERALL STRATEGY TO CONTINUE TO LOOK AT NEW SCHOOLS, NEW PROGRAMS GOING FORWARD. SO THAT'S CLEARLY THERE AS PART OF THE ORGANIZATIONAL REDESIGN FOR THE FIRST TIME [00:10:08] WE ACTUALLY HAVE A DIVISION OF DALLAS COLLEGE ASSESS THEIR ENTIRE FOCUS, SET IT UP BY SO I WOULD SAY THAT WE ARE DOUBLING DOWN TO USE THE PHRASE. AND THAT IN THAT AREA. AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO. THIS GIVES SOME IDEA OF THE BREAKOUT. THERE'S STILL GOING ON BUT CERTAINLY THIS IS GIVES KIND OF A ROUGH DESCRIPTION WITH WITH EACH OF THESE AREAS THERE ARE MULTIPLE SUB AREAS AS WELL. I THINK PARTICULARLY WITH THE LAST FOUR ROWS, THAT VARY BY SCHOOL DISTRICT IN TERMS OF THEIR APPROACH, HOW THEY TACKLE THE ISSUE. FRANKLY SOMETIMES REFLECTING THEIR OVERALL COMMITMENT. AS YOU RECALL THE TRUSTEE RITTER, WHEN WE BE GOOD AFTERNOON LOOK AT EXPANDING WE BEGAN TO LOOK AT EXPANDING EARLY HIGH SCHOOL AND PTECH WE WERE NOT MET WITH OPEN ARMS BY THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS AT THAT TIME. JUST THE OPPOSITE. THAT IS A RELATIONSHIP THAT WE BUILT OUT OVER TIME AND WILL CONTINUE THE WORK TOWARD AND GROW BECAUSE YOU'RE CORRECT. I KNOW DR. JOSEPH IS GOING TO GET TO SOME OTHER DATA AND THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS HERE, BUT THIS IS A KEY COMPONENT OF OUR OVERALL STUDENT SUCCESS STRATEGY. >> THANK YOU. >> I BELIEVE TRUSTEE JAMISON HAS A QUESTION? >> BASED ON THE NUMBERS AND THE BIG INCREASE IN THE DUAL CREDIT AND THE PTECH. THAT ADDED TOGETHER CREATES A 6% INCREASE IN ENROLLMENT. AM I RELATING APPLES TO APPLES HERE? WE'RE OVER COMING THE NEGATIVES IN OVER AREAS WITH WHAT YOU SAY? ONETHIRD OF THOSE STUDENTS IN THE PARTICULAR CATEGORIES. THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WHY WE'RE HAVING AN INCREASE IN THE SECOND EIGHT WEEK ENROLLMENT NUMBER? >> CERTAINLY THAT WAS IMPACT. ALTHOUGH FOR THE MOST PART THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE IN THAT INCREASE, EARLY COLLEGE SCHOOLS OR PTECH OR MAY INCLUDE SOME DUAL CREDIT THAT'S IN THERE. WHAT IT APPEARS TO BE, THERE ARE INDIVIDUALS WHO REALLY DID INTEND TO COME BACK, NEEDED TO COME BACK. THEY WERE STILL WRESTLING WITH THEIR CHILDREN BEING AT HOME. THE UNCERTAINTY OF HOW THE PARENTS WERE GOING TO JUGGLE THAT. THAT'S WHY THAT DATA ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE INDICATING THE NUMBER OF PARENTS OF OUR STUDENTS. THAT'S A BIG PERCENT. THIS HAS NOT AN EASY JUGGLING ACT FOR PARENTS DURING THIS TIME. SO THESE DATA REALLY IN THAT UNDER THE CONTINUING POPULATION. UNIVERSITIES ACTUALLY SHOW TO BE UP IN CONTINUING STUDENTS. IF YOU NOTICE WE'RE UP IN PTECH AND EARLY HIGH SCHOOL CONTINUING AND UP IN DUAL IT. DUAL CREDIT BUT DOWN IN REGULAR. WE KIND OF SUM FROM THAT THAT IS THE SUM THAT IS THE PARENT POPULATION. THAT THE STUDENT RETURNING STUDENTS OF 19, 20YEARSOLD. OURS ARE 31 YEAR OLDS THAT ARE TRYING TO BALANCE OUT THE FAMILY AND WORK COMPONENT OF THAT. SO THERE ARE SOME DIFFERENCES THAT REFLECT HERE AND IN THE OVER ALL WE WERE DOWN IN THE WHAT WE REPORT OUT FOR THE FALL, ROUGHLY 10%. IN TERMS OF THAT. WHEN IT ALL STAKES OUT AT THE END OF IT JUST TEE JAMISON. >> I STILL THINK THAT'S AN AMAZING NUMBERS ALL THE BARRIERS THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO OVERCOME. TO ONLY HAVE LOST 10% ROUGHLY IN OVERALL ENROLLMENT WHEN PEOPLE ARE STRUGGLING WITH UNEMPLOYMENT, FOOD CHALLENGES WITH ALL THE THINGS DISTRICT. THE COLLEGE TO PUT FORWARD WE ARE STILL HERE, WE'RE STILL DOING WHAT WE ALWAYS DO AND IT'S A POSITIVE STORY. [00:15:01] SO HATS OFF TO THE STAFF AND YOU CHANCELLOR. >> THANK YOU. I WOULD SAY >> WHERE ARE YOU GETTING 10% OVERALL ENROLLMENT? >> THE OVER ALL >> THE NEXT SLIDE. >> OKAY. >> I JUST GOT AN UP DATE. I'M ASSUMING FROM BOTH DR. FLOYD AND WE HAVE SCHEDULED 22 NEW PTECHS FOR 20/21 ARE ON THE BOOKS. AND ADDITIONAL 10 FOR 22/23. SO WE'RE CONTINUING TO GROW THOSE AND WORK IN THAT DIRECTION. OBVIOUSLY THE EARLIER WE CAN GET STUDENTS BACK TO THE THAT IS THE BEST STRATEGY. EVERYTHING ELSE IS STOPGAP ALONG THE WAY. THIS IS PREEMPTIVE STRIKE AND GETTING TO INDIVIDUALS EARLY, GETTING THEM NORMALLY BEFORE THEY WOULD BE MAKING DECISIONS ABOUT COLLEGE. AND WE'LL SHARE SOME OF THE IMPACT OF THAT HERE IN A FEW MINUTES. THAT'S STILL OUR NUMBER ONE TOOL IN THE BELT. >> THAT SOUNDS LIKE DOUBLING DOWN TO ME CHANCELLOR. >> COULD WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. >> ALL RIGHT. I FINALLY MADE IT IN TO THE MEETING. >> WELCOME. >> NEXT SLIDE. ONE BEFORE THAT. OKAY. THERE GROW. THAT'S WHAT TRUSTEE WAS MENTIONED. A COMPARISON OF FALL ENROLLMENTS ACROSS SAMPLE OF TEXAS COMMUNE COLLEGES. DECREASES IN ENROLLMENT RANGE FROM 4.2347 AUSTIN TO 21% IN HOUSTON. SO IT GIVES AN IDEA OF WHERE WE STAND COMPARED TO SOME OTHER TEXAS COMMUNITY COLLEGES. >> CIRCUMSTANCES ARE DIFFERENT EVERYWHERE. WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT EVERY SINGLE STUDENT THAT'S BEING LEFT BEHIND. THIS IS A CRITICAL TIME IN THEIR LIVES. THIS IS OUR FAILURE IS JUST SIMPLY NOT A PERCENTAGE MARK ON THE PAGE. IT'S A PERSON. AND THE IMPACT OF THIS IS SIGNIFICANT. SO WHILE WE SHOW THIS, AND NATIONALLY WE'RE RIGHT UP THE NATIONAL AVERAGE IN TERMS OF DECLINE AT ABOUT 9% ACROSS THE BOARD. I THINK THAT JUST MEANS WE HAVE TO WORK HARDER IN ORDER TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE GET MORE PEOPLE IN THE DOOR. SO I KNOW FOLKS WONDER HOW WE COMPARE. I HONESTLY DON'T CARE MUCH ABOUT THIS AS SUCH. I COMPARE WHERE WE'RE HAVING THE IMPACT. WANTED TO ADD THAT. >> QUESTION? >> YES. WHO SAID QUESTION? >> IT'S PHIL. I READ TWO QUESTIONS. WHEN WE PUT THE BUDGET TOGETHER LAST YEAR WE MADE ABOUT STATE FUNDING. WITH OUR ENROLLMENT GOING DOWN 9 . 3%, WE'RE AT RISK OF LOSS OF CONTACT HOUR FUNDING. THERE'S BEEN SOME DISCUSSION IN THE ISD CONTEXT ABOUT MAINTAINING CONTACT FUNDING NOTWITHSTANDING ENROLLMENT PROCESSES. A WHOLE HARMLESS OR ENROLLMENT FOR CONTACT FUNDING FOR COMMUNITY COLLEGES. THEN MY SECOND QUESTION IS WHEN WE PUT OUR BUDGET TOGETHER I THINK WE'RE ASSUMING A 5% DECREASE IN ENROLLMENT IF I'M RECALLING CORRECTLY. WE'RE HAVING DOUBLE THAT BASED ON THESE NUMBERS. SOME POINT WE'LL HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THE FINANCIAL IMPACT. CHANCELLOR, THOSE TWO QUESTIONS, IF YOU COULD ADDRESS THEM I WOULD BE GRATEFUL. >> SURE. THIS IS, BECAUSE THIS IS LEGISLATIVE YEAR THIS FALL DOES COUNT IN TERMS OF THE CALCULATIONS FOR THE NEXT BIENNIUM FUNDING. TEXAS IS A FUNDS ON THE BY ANNUAL BIANNUAL BASIS. [00:20:07] STATE FUNDING IS LOOK, I GUESS IF YOU WOULD. WHAT WE'RE RECEIVING NOW WAS BASED WON THE YEARS AGO FROM THE CALCULATION POINT OF VIEW. WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW WILL INFLUENCE THE NEXT TWO YEARS AS SUCH. SO THIS ACTUALLY DOES NOT BODE WELL WHEN YOU LOOK AT COMMUNITY COLLEGES AS A WHOLE WHICH IS PROBABLY EVEN MORE SIGNIFICANT IMPORTANCE OF THIS PARTICULAR SLIDE. BECAUSE WHAT IT DOES SAY IS THAT THE POT MAY BE SHRINKING OVERALL. NOW THE ACTUAL CALCULATION OF FUNDING IS NOT BASED ON HEAD . IT'S BASED ON CREDIT HOUR PRODUCTION WHICH MAY OR MAY NOT ALIGN WELL WITH THIS. IT MEANS EVEN THOUGH HEAD COUNT AT A COLLEGE MAY BE DOWN, STUDENTS MAY BE ON AVERAGE TAKING MORE HOURS AND CREDIT HOURS ARE UP OR VICE VERSA. SIMPLY GOING ON HEAD COUNT ALONE IS A GOOD ROUGH DIRECTIONAL INDICATION. WHEN WE GET IN THE ACTUAL CALCULATION IT'S A LITTLE MORE SUBTLE. I KNOW JOHN IS TRAVELING TODAY. ALREADY HAD SOMETHING IN PLACE BEFORE THE GOT MEETING GOT MOVED. ANTISKA WOULD BE AVAILABLE TO RESPOND TO THAT. THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS THERE. SO THE REVENUE IMPACT WILL BE IN SOME CASES ON THE TUITION SIDE. BECAUSE WE DO TUITION WAIVERS ON THE DUAL CREDIT, PTECH AND EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOLS, THAT IS A NONFACTOR FOR US A PUS THERE. WHAT IS PROBABLY A FACTOR IN OR REALLY THE CONTINUING REALLY THE TOP THREE AND IN SOME REGARD, BECAUSE EVEN IF THEIR PROMISE STUDENTS WITH PELL GRANTS INI'M PACT ON REVENUE ON THAT SIDE. BUT SOME IMPACT ON THE REVENUE ASSUMING STATE FUNDING IS UNTOUCHED. NOW WE ARE LOOKING AT THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE SECOND EIGHT WEEKS. THAT'S REALLY MORE OF A TELLING WHAT WE MIGHT CAN EXPECT IN THE SPRING. BECAUSE WHAT EVERYBODY SAW WAS A DIP IN THE FALL. THEN WITH THE SECOND OUGHT WEEKS YOU SAW A POP. WE THINK WE COULD SEE ANOTHER POP IN THE FOR THE REGULAR SPRING SEMESTER. KEEP IN MIND THE SECOND OUGHT WEEKS OF A SPRING DOES NOT COUNT FOR THE FUNDING YEAR. IT'S ONLY THE 16 WEEK AND THE FIRST EIGHT WEEKS. THE SECOND EIGHT WEEK IS IN THE NONE COUNT YEAR GOING FORWARD. SO WE COULD WELL BE UP AND OFFSET THIS. ALSO WHAT INFLUENCES FUNDING IS NOT JUST OUR NUMBERS. THE WAY IT WORKS IS A FIXED POT OF MONEY FOR COMMUNITY COLLEGE. SO JUST TO USE THE LAST YEAR'S EXAMPLE. THERE WAS A TOTAL OF $25 MILLION VALUABLE FOR ALL 50 COMMUNE COLLEGES. AND WE DIDN'T ALL GET HALF A MILLION. THE SOME LIKE DALLAS GOT A WHOLE LOT MORE. I BELIEVE WE'RE ACTUALLY, EVEN THOUGH MOST OF THE COLLEGES UP WERE. 19 LOST MONEY. TOOK A REDUCTION BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T GROW AS FAST AS THE AVERAGE GROWTH IN THE STATE. WE WERE ABOVE AVERAGE MEAN WING GOT PROPORTIONALLY MORE. AND LOAN STAR LONE STAR. SO BETWEEN THE TWO OF US WE ENDED UP TALKING HALF OF THE POT THAT WAS OUT THERE FOR ALL 50 COMMUNITY COLLEGES. JUST BECAUSE WE'RE DOWN THAT SLIDE THAT DOES SHOW EVERYBODY ELSE DOWN MEANS RELATIVE SPEAKING WE COULD COME OUT DOLLARS AHEAD ON IT. AND A KIND OF PERVERSE WAY WE DO STATE FUNDING. IT'S A ZERO SUM GAME NOT AN ABSOLUTE NUMBER. WHERE THERE ARE ABSOLUTE NUMBERS IN THERE ARE WITH THE PERFORMANCE POINTS WHICH THAT IS ABSOLUTE. IF YOU GET THEM, YOU GET THE POINTS. [00:25:01] IF YOU DON'T, YOU LOSE THE POINTS AN THAT HITS SAME. WHICH IS WHY WE'RE BIGGER FAN OF THE PERFORMANCE FUNDING THAN WE ARE OF THE ENROLLMENT OF THIS. PROBABLY MORE THAN YOU ASKED BUT HOPEFULLY THAT NUTS CONTEXT. >> SAVE TIME AT THE FINANCE COMMITTEE. >> A QUESTION. >> GO AHEAD. >> THANK YOU. SO WHAT ARE WE DOING IT WOULD HAVE BEEN GOOD TO INCLUDE SOME STRATEGIES THAT WE'RE DOING GOING INTO THE SPRING SEMESTER AND AGAIN NEXT FALL SEMESTER OF HOW TO HOPEFULLY RECAPTURE SOME THAT DID NOT COME TO US. FALL 2020 IN TERMS OF FIRST TIME IN COLLEGE. THOSE THAT STOPPED COMING THAT ARE CONTINUING AND THOSE TRANSFERRING. IT WOULD BE GOOD TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING AND CHANCELLOR, YOU REFERENCED THE SUCCESS POINTS AS WE HAD SOME CHALLENGES WHEN WE WERE THE SEVEN COLLEGES. NOW WE'LL GET THEM AS ONE INSTITUTION. WHEN WILL WE KNOW WHERE WE FALL ON THOSE CATEGORIES OF SUCCESS AND HOW MUCH OF THAT MORE OR LESS INCOME WILL BE COMING TO US>> THAT'S ALSO ON A THREEYEAR AVERAGE. SO IT TAKES A LITTLE BIT OF TIME FOR THAT TO WORK ITS WAY THROUGH THE CHANGE. I KNOW I'VE CUT OFF DR. JOSEPH WHO IS GOING TO GET TO SOME OF THE STRATEGIES HERE AS WE OBVIOUSLY THAT'S THE LAST SLIDE WHICH IS ABOUT FOUR MORE SLIDES. IS WE'LL GET TO THAT PIECE TO WHAT WE'RE DOING. BECAUSE THAT HAS BEEN A HUGE PIECE. JUST TO SET THE STAGE FOR THAT. IT'S ONLY ABOUT 10 TIMES HARDER BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO REMOTE THIS TO THE END OF THE THANKSGIVING TO THE END OF THE YEAR. THAT PUTS UP WITH THE INCREASED COVID IS GOING TO BE MORE DIFFICULT THAN WE WERE LOOKING AT PREVIOUSLY. SO WE'LL GET INTO WHY THE APPROACHES MATTER AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO BE TACKLING THAT. ANYWAY. DR. JOSEPH? >> SURE. GO TO THE I JUST WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU FOR A MOMENT THE TOP 10 ZIP CODES THAT HAVE EXPERIENCED THE HIGHEST ENROLLMENT DECLINES. FOCUS ON 572 75211 THAT EXPERIENCED THE HIGHEST DROP. YOU CAN SEE ON YOUR SLIDE HERE THAT THE TOP 10 DECLINING ZIP CODES AND IN THE 75211. WHY IT SHOWS A 14.8% DECREASE IT ACTUALLY SHOWS 415 STUDENTS LEFT ATTENDING DALLAS COLLEGE IN FALL OF 2020 THAN THEY DID IN FALL OF 2019. I HAVE A PARTICULAR INTEREST IN 75211 AS THIS IS THE ZIP CODE THE MOUNTAIN VIEW CAMPUS. WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THIS 14.8% REDUCTION AS I SAID TRANSLATES INTO 415 STUDENTS. THE MEDIAN INCOME IS $41,781 WHICH IS LOWER. WE HAVE A LOWER PERCENTAGES OF ADULTS WITH A POST SECONDARY EDUCATION. A HIGHER PERCENTAGE OF ADULTS WHO WORK PART TIME. A AND WE HAVE EXPERIENCED IN REDUCTION IN HISPANIC AND AS WELL AS MALE STUDENTS. WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. THESE ARE THE ISSUES THAT THAT ARE POTENTIALLY UNINFLUENCING THE REDUCTION IN ENROLLMENT. THE HIGHER LEVELS OF POSITIVITY. THIS CODE HAS BEEN MORE THAN ANY OTHER WITH CONFIRMED COVID CASES. WE HAVE A LOT OF SINGLE PARENT HOUSEHOLDS. MULTI GENERATIONAL HOUSEHOLDS. TECHNOLOGICALLY DIVIDE. WE KNOW IT EXIST AND HOW IT IMPACTS OUR STUDENTS. IT'S BEEN EVIDENT IN THIS PARTICULAR SITUATION. THE LOSS OF FACETOFACE INTERACTION WITH HAVING THE CLASSES HAS IMPACTED OUR STUDENTS IN GENERAL. THE EMPLOYMENT INDUSTRIES THAT ARE THE MAJORITY OF OUR STUDENTS HAD EMPLOYMENT IN WERE SERVICE INDUSTRIES, HOSPITALITY INDUSTRIES AND THEY HAVE BEEN MOSTLY VERY [00:30:04] AFFECTED BY THIS PANDEMIC. AND YOU KNOW, THIS IS BEEN A CRISIS LIKE NO NO OTHER OUR LIFETIMES. THIS IS NOT ONLY ABOUT LOSING JOBS. IT'S ABOUT KEEPING YOURSELF AN YOUR FAMILY SAFE. KEEPING A ROOF OVER YOUR HEADS AND ABOUT BEING ABLE TO PUT FOOD ON THE TABLE. UNFORTUNATELY IN SITUATIONS LIKE THAT, EDUCATION JUST TAKES A BACKSEAT. AND WE ARE CONSCIOUS AND CONCERNED ABOUT EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE STUDENTS THAT >> QUESTION. >> ABLE TO SUCCEED. YES MA'AM. >> THESE ARE GOOD GUESSES. HAVE WE DONE RESEARCH TO DETERMINE EXACTLY WHICH OF THESE FACTORS ARE THE MOST PREVALENT IN THOSE THAT HAVE STOPPED COMING TO US? >> WE DON'T KNOW. >> YES. WE HAVE. WE DID A SURVEY. I'M LOOKING AT THOSE THAT DIDN'T RETURN. AND NOT IT WASN'T SURPRISING. FINANCIAL WAS ONLY 3%. THAT SAID IT WAS A FINANCIAL REASON. OVERWHELMINGLY IS A THEY DIDN'T LIKE ONLINE. 45% SAID THEY NEEDED FACETOFACE ENVIRONMENT IN ORDER TO SUCCESSFUL. THERE WAS ALSO ISSUES WITH TECHNOLOGY AND THE ONLINE PIECE THAT WAS OUT THERE FROM THAT THEY WERE RELY I CAN'T ON OUR CAME RELIANT ON OUR CAMPUSES IN MANY CASES. AMONG THE FIRST THINGS WE OPENED UP WERE OUR LIBRARIES AND OTHER RESOURCES BECAUSE EVEN WITH THE ONLINE COURSES, NOT EVERYONE HAD ACCESS TO BROAD BAND AT THE SPEED THAT AALOUD THEM TO TAKE THE CARE. WE ALWAYS HAD STUDENTS COMING IN OUR FACILITIES THE TO TAKE ONLINE COURSES FROM US. AS THE CASE. BE THERE WAS REALLY VERY SECOND, OVERWHELMINGLY WE NEED FACETOFACE WAS THE NUMBER ONE REASON. AND OVERWHELMINGLY THEY SAID THEY WILL COME BACK WHEN YOU HAVE FACETOFACE AVAILABLE IN INPERSON CLASSES. >> FURTHER QUESTION. SINCE WE KNOW THAT IS IMPEDIMENT FOR THEM, ARE WE PROVIDING THEM WITH ANY EXTRA SERVICES OR TRAINING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT TO GET THEM COMFORTABLE WITH ONLINE, MORE COMFORTABLE ONLINE SO IT'S POSSIBLE ANOTHER SPRING SEMESTER WE WILL STILL BE ON LINE, RIGHT? WERE THEY SURVEYED TO FIND OUT WHAT WOULD MAKE THEM COMFORTABLE WITH THE ONLINE ENVIRONMENT? >> THE SURVEY IS THAT THEY'RE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THAT. >> THE QUESTION IS >> WELL >> THE QUESTION IS, IF THEY'RE RESPONDING THAT THEY'RE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH ONLINE. DID WE ASK WHAT WOULD MAKE YOU COMFORTABLE? ANY TRAINING WE CAN PROVIDE THAT WOULD MAKE YOUR MORE COMFORTABLE SO YOU WILL CONTINUE AT MINIMUM TO TAKE ONE OR TWO CLASSES WITH US? >> WELL CERTAINLY WE MADE ALL THAT AVAILABLE TO THEM. AS PART OF IT. SO THAT WE MADE TECHNOLOGY AVAILABLE, HOT SPOTS AVAILABLE. WE'VE MADE TABLETS AND PCS AVAILABLE THROUGH OUR FOUNDATION LOANING THOSE. WE'VE BEEN VERY GENEROUS WITH THAT PROCESS SO WE AND WE WORK ONE ON ONE WITH I THINK THAT'S BEEN PART OF OUR PROCESS ALL ALONG AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK AND EMPHASIZE THERE. >> AND THEN FOR THE SPRING ENROLLMENT, WHAT ARE WE DOING, ENROLLAL. MOVING FORWARD. DO WE HAVE SYSTEMICALLY INCLUDED OUTREACH AN COMMUNICATION WITH THOSE WHO SPEAK OTHER THAN ENGLISH. NOT JUST SOLELY SPANISH. WE HAVE OTHER POPULATIONS OUT THERE THAT ARE LARGER NUMBER THAT WANT TO COME TO US. ARE WE REACHING OUT TO THEM? FOR EXAMPLE I THINK AS BASIC AS THE HELP DESK. IF THEY MAKE A PHONE CALL WANTING TO ACCESS US OR GET REGISTRATION INFORMATION, DO WE HAVE PEOPLE READY TO TAKE THOSE TYPES OF CALLS? I'VE HEARD SOME COMPLAINTS ABOUT WE DON'T HAVE SPANISH SPEAK IRES OR SUFFICIENT SPANISH SPEAKERS. I'M HOPING THAT'S NOT THE CASE. I'M HOPING THAT'S INACCURATE INFORMATION. BEYOND SPANISH SPEAKING THERE ARE OTHER GROUPS THAT HAVE CERTAIN LANGUAGES THEY SPEAK AND CAN MAKE USE OF OUR EDUCATION IF WE HELP THEM COME INTO OUR SYSTEM. AND NOT LET LANGUAGE BE A BARRIER. >> THAT MAY WELL BE TRUE. [00:35:03] ALTHOUGH WE'VE DONE IT A LOT WITH DUAL LANGUAGE DURING OUTREACH. WE'VE ASKED FOLKS WHAT IS THE PREFERRED LANGUAGE TO AND WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THIS IN THE NEXT SLIDE IS WE AS WE GET THERE. A BIG PART OF THE CHALLENGE, I BELIEVE IN THIS, WE DESIGN OUR SYSTEM FOR PEOPLE TO BE SITTING LIKE I AM RIGHT NOW IN MY OFFICE IN FRONT OF MY COMPUTER AND MY PHONE AND THE SYSTEM. SO THAT WHEN CALLS COME IN THEY WERE COMING IN TO A PLACE THAT IF I WAS BUSY IT ROLLED OVER TO BEATRICE. AND IF SHE WAS BUSY IT KEPT ROLLING UNTIL SOMEONE PICKED UP. WHEN WE TRANSFERRED THEM TO CELL PHONES IT DIED THERE. WE HAD THOUSANDS OF CALLS A DAY UNANSWERED AND NO WAY THAT CALLED INTO THE SYSTEM BECAUSE WHEN WE WENT INTO THIS MODE WE HAD NOT DID NOT HAVE IN PLACE TO SYSTEMS TO TAKE CARE OF THAT. THAT'S BEEN A LOT OF THE WORK GETTING READY FOR SPRING REMOTE IS TO SET IN PLACE AND TO GET THE PEOPLE IN PLACE AND GET PEOPLE TRAINED AND TO BE A AVAILABLE DURING THIS TIME PERIOD BECAUSE IT'S S THE THAT WE'VE GOT TO BE SOMEWHAT MORE DISCIPLINED IN OUR APPROACH. WE'VE GOT TO BE ANSWERING THE PHONES AND WE'VE GOT TO USE OUR -- AND BEATRIC CAN TALK ABOUT THE TECHNOLOGY IN PLACE AND HOW WE'RE NOW ABLE TO DO THAT. IT MEANS THAT NOW WE'VE ALSO PUT IN PLACE MONITORING OF FOLKS WHERE WE HAD NOT MONITORED THEM IN THE PAST AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THEY WERE ANSWERING THE PHONE. THAT THEY WERE SO NOW THE OVERSIGHT IS INCREASED DRAMATICALLY IN THAT CASE. AND DR. JOSEPH YOU ONCE YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE AND WE CAN HIT THAT. I THINK THAT GETS INTO A LOT OF STRATEGIES. >> SURE. WHAT IS HERE IS WHAT WE DID TO PREPARE FOR THE FULL 2020 FALL 2020. WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE TO ADDRESS THE QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING MOVING FORWARD. THIS SLIDE SPEAK TO THE EMERGENCY AID THAT WE ARE V ALREADY DISTRIBUTED TO OUR STUDENTS FROM THE CARES ACT FUNDS. >> I'M SORRY. I THOUGHT YOU WERE ON THAT SLIDE GOING TO GET INTO AND TALK ABOUT THE EXPANSION HOW WE'RE HANDLE PAY DEADLINES. WHAT WE'RE DOING TO WE WORKED WITH IT IN THE FALL, THE LESSONS LEARNED FOR THE SPRING HAVE BEEN INSTRUCTIVE IN TERMS HOW WE THIS GOING TOWARD. I THINK THAT'S LOT OF THAT WE'RE MEETING THOSE STUDENT WHERE IS THEY ARE AND GET THEM ENROLLED? AND HOW WE GOING TO DEAL WITH EVERY ISSUE THAT ARISES ALONG THE WAY. IN A WAY THAT WE DON'T SEE THE SAME RESULTS THAT WE'VE SEEN THIS FALL. >> SURE. IF YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO ONE OF THE LESSONS LEARNED THAT WE MAD FROM HAD FROM ENROLLMENT IN THE FALL IS THAT OUR ENROLLMENT PROCESS HAD WAY TOO MANY STEPS. WE ARE REDUCING THE NUMBER OF STEPS FROM 63 TO ALLOW STUDENTS TO COMPLETE THE PROCESS QUICKLY. INTENTIONALLY ADVISING CAMPAIGN PROGRAMMING. THE OTHER THING THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TO ADDRESS WHAT CHANCELLOR MAY JUST REFERRED TO, OUR PHONE SYSTEM THE WAY WE WERE DOING IT, WE WERE ALLOWING EMPLOYEES TO FORWARD THEIR PHONE TO A TO A PRIVATE CELL PHONE. SO NOW EVERYBODY HAS A DEVICE WITH A CISCO SOFTWARE IN THEIR LAPTOP THAT WILL ALLOW THEM TO ANSWER THE PHONE. SO IF I DON'T RESPOND TO THE CALL IT GOES TO THE NEXT AVAILABLE INDIVIDUAL. SO WE DON'T DROP CALLS. WE WILL GET WEEKLY REPORTED FROM IT ON THE CALLING CENTER. SO WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE RIGHT RESOURCES AT THE RIGHT TIME. WE ARE EXPANDING OUR HOURS OF OPERATION FROM 7:00 A.M. TO MIDNIGHT MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY TO MAKE SURE OUR STUDENTS CAN REACH US WHEN THEY ARE AVAILABLE TO REACH US RATHER THAN JUST DURING NORMAL OPERATING HOURS. AND WORK READ U HAS INCORPORATED A LOT OF TECHNOLOGY TO USE TO ADDRESS [00:40:05] NEW STUDENTS. THEY ALSO HAVE A SPANISH SPEAKING INDIVIDUAL WHO ANSWERS CALLS. WE HAVE DEVELOPED PAYMENT PLANS THAT ALLOW STUDENTS TO ENTER INTO A PAYMENT PLAN FOR ALL THEIR COURSES RATHER THAN ONE COURSE. THAT OUR SYSTEM WAS SET UP IN SUCH A WAY THAT IF YOU MISSED A PAYMENT IT DROPPED YOU FROM ALL YOURS. WE CLASSES. WE FIX THAT. WE FIXED THE AMOUNTS OF TIMES A STUDENT COULD BE DROPPED IN THE ENROLLMENT PERIOD. WE FOUR OR TIMES A STUDENT COULD BE DROP. WE HAVE TAKEN CARE OF THAT. AND STUDENTS ARE BEING CASE MANAGED TO ENSURE WE CAN HELP THEM FIND RESOURCES TO PAY FOR WHATEVER BALANCE THEY MIGHT HAVE. WE ARE WORKING WITH THE ACADEMIC SIDE TO A ONLINE ORIENTATION THAT TO YOUR POINT, HELPS THE COMMUNITIES UNDERSTAND HOW TO NAVIGATE AN ONLINE CLASS. WE ARE CHANGING THE WAY OR EMPHASIS OF OUR NEW STUDENT ORIENTATION, RATHER THAN A TOUR OF OUR CAMPUS IS MORE HERE IS A TOUR OF YOUR ONLINE CHANNEL AND THIS IS WHERE YOU NEED TO GO TO UTILIZE THE TOOLS YOU NEED TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN THE CLASS. WITH THE REORGANIZATION OF DALLAS COLLEGE WE HAVE A STRONG MARKETING TEAM THAT IS WORKING DILIGENTLY TO TARGET THE STUDENT POPULATIONS IN PLACES WE HAVEN'T DONE IT BEFORE INTENTIONALLY. AND WE WITH A GOOD STRATEGY. WE ARE THEM IN TARGETING THEM IN STREAMING AUDIO. THEY HAVE MOBILE APPS. THEY HAVE DIGITAL APPS. THEY HAVE SEARCH ENGINE MARKETING OPPORTUNITIES THAT IF A STUDENT IS SEARCHING IN GOOGLE, BASED ON THEIR ZIP COPE CODE THEY HAVE L HAVE A AN AD THAT POPS UP. SLING, ROKU. ALL THOSE DIFFERENT MEDIA ARE BEING UTILIZED TO STARTING STUDENTS. WE ARE CONTINUE OUR EMERGENCY. AS YOU ALL KNOW THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS BEEN A LITTLE BIT UNCLEAR ABOUT THE CRITERIA THAT WE NEEDED TO USE DISTRIBUTE THOSE FUNDS. WE HAVE PIVOT EVERY TIME THEY HAVE CHANGED. WE HAVE PIVOTED TO OWN SURE THAT WE'RE ENSURE WE ARE ABLE TO REACH THOSE WHO NEED IT THE MOST AND WE'VE CONNECTED TO CONNECT TO STUDENTS. WE CONDUCTED A CAMPAIGN, A WELLNESS CHECK. TO CHECK ON STUDENTS. TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE OKAY. HOW ARE THING GOING. TO YOUR POINT ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING FOR NEXT FALL, WE ARE INTENTIONALLY TARGETING PROMISE STUDENTS. WE WANT TO INCREASE THE CONVERSION RATE FROM STUDENTS WHO PLEDGE, PROMISE TO STUDENTS WHO ACTUALLY ENROLL WITH US. WE HAVE DATA THAT INDICATES WHICH SCHOOLS NEED MORE ATTENTION THAT STUDENTS ARE NOT EITHER PLEDGING IN LARGE ENOUGH NUMBERS OR THEY PLEDGE BUT THEY DO NOT TURN IN AN APPLICATION FORM OR THEY DON'T COMPLETE THEIR FAFSA FORM. WE ARE BING TENSIONAL TO ADDRESS IT BY HIGH SCHOOL. WE CAN PARTNER IN MAKING SURE THAT THE STUDENTS GET WHAT THEY NEED TO COMPLETE APPLICATION THEIR APPLICATION AND LOOKING FORWARD TO COMING TO SCHOOL NEXT FALL. WE ALSO HAVE SOME OPPORTUNITIES FOR EXPERIENTIAL LEARNING THAT ARE PAID OPPORTUNITIES FOR EXPERIENTIAL LEARNING THAT WE ARE PARTNERING WITH WORK SURE THE STUDENTS KNOW THAT THOSE OPPORTUNITIES ARE AVAILABLE, AND THEY THEY CAN COME BACK TO SCHOOL AND HAVE AN INCOME. BECAUSE WE REALIZE AS WELL THAT MAKING DECISIONS BETWEEN GOING TO SCHOOL AND WORKING. AND IF WE CAN FIND A WAY IN WHICH WE CAN MERGE BOTH GET AN EDUCATION BUT AT THE SAME TIME HAVE SOME INCOME COMING THEIR WAY. >> NOW OF THIS MYRIAD OF SERVICES AND RESOURCE AND STRATEGIES THAT YOU HAVE REFERENCED. I'M GLAD WE'RE USE AGENCY BROAD SET. ARE THESE AVAILABLE, AGAIN, TO STUDENTS WHO ARE NOT ENGLISH COME? DON DOMINANT. FOR EXAMPLE THE ONLINE ORIENTATION. IS THAT MORE IT SAYS DEVELOPMENT. ARE YOU DEVELOPING THAT FOR STUDENTS THAT ARE NOT ENGLISH DOMINANT AND BEYOND [00:45:04] SPANISH, NOT JUST SPANISH. >> TO BE HONEST HAD NOT TALKED ABOUT DOING ONLINE ORIENTATION PROGRAMS IN DIFFERENT LANGUAGES. THAT IS SOMETHING WE CAN FOR SURE LOOK INTO AND ENSURE THAT WE ADDRESS THOSE NEEDS. >> BECAUSE STUDENTS WILL COME TO US AND LETS SAY FOR ESL OR CONTINUING EDUCATION COURSE AND THAT CAN BE THE PATH WAY TO COLLEGE COURSES. WE ESPECIALLY WE ARE THE 60 BY 30. NOT LEAVE NO ONE BEHIND AND ESPECIALLY NOW IN 2020 MOVING INTO 2021, THAT SHOULD NOT BE AN AFTERTHOUGHT. IT SHOULD BE FRONT OF MINE IN EVERYBODY WE DO IN MY OPINION. >> TO THAT POINT THAT POPULATION IS TARGETED IN SPANISH AND THERE ARE GREATER OPPORTUNITIES PART OF THE ESL POPULATION WE'RE REACHING OUT TO AND TARGETING THEM SPECIFICALLY. SO THE ANSWER IS YES IN CERTAIN AREAS. PARTICULARLY AS IT RELATED TO WORK READY U. THE ANSWER IS NO WE HAVEN'T IN BECAUSE ALL OUR INSTRUCTIONS ARE IN ENGLISH AS WELL. THAT CERTAINLY BUT WE HAVE IN TERMS OF THE OUTREACH WE'VE ASKED STUDENTS THEIR PREFERENCE FOR HOW THEY WANT TO COMMUNICATE WITH US IN THAT PROCESS AND QUEER DILIGENTLY WE'RE DILIGENTLY MATCHING THE PEOPLE THAT SHARE THEIR LANGUAGE PREFERENCE. >> IF WE WERE TO TAKE THAT EXTRA STEP WORKING WITH THOSE WHO ARE LEARNING ENGLISH OR LEARNING A SKILL. THIS WOULD HELP THAT EXTRA STEP IN PROVIDING THE RESOURCES IN THEIR DOMINANT LANGUAGE WOULD ALREADY GIVE THEM A LEG UP AND KNOWING WHAT IS NEXT FOR THEM IF THAT'S WHAT THEY ASPIRE TO VERSUS HAVING TO SEEK THAT OUT. >> SURE. MAKES SENSE. >> DR. JOSEPH. CAN YOU TALK BRIEFLY ABOUT SLIDE 10 ABOUT THE CHAIR FUNDING. I KNOW THAT THERE'S STILL MORE MONEY AVAILABLE. >> YES. SO THESE ARE THE FUNDS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN DISTRIBUTED. AND I THINK ARE YOU ON THE WHAT IS THE >> I AM. >> GO AHEAD. >> HAPPY TO TALK ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT. WE DID RECEIVE AROUND $20 MILLION IN CARES ACT THE FEDERAL FUNDS FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT EARLIER THIS SPRING. HALF OF THAT, SO A LITTLE OVER $9 MILLION HAS TO GO DIRECTLY TO STUDENTS IN THE FORM OF EMERGENCY AID. THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SEEING A THE TOP OF THIS SLIDE. WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO HELP 7400 STUDENTS AT THIS POINT. IT'S A LITTLE OVER $2.5 MILLION AS OF TODAY. YOU CAN SEE THEIR NEEDS THERE. AND WHAT'S MOST REQUESTED. AND CLEARLY HOUSING AND FOOD RISE TO THE TOP. WE'VE SEEN THAT THROUGHOUT. THE CARES ACT FUNDS ARE QUITE CHAOTIC IN TRYING TO AWARD THOSE I WILL USE THAT WORD. BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE GOVERNMENT HAS TOLD US TO AWARD THOSE AND HOW THEY COME BACK AND CHANGE THEIR INSTRUCTION FREQUENTLY. THESE TRUSTEE FLORES YOU TALKED TALKED ABOUT ALL STUDENTS. AND THAT'S HOW WE WANT TO APPROACH THIS. ALL MEANS ALL. THE CARES ACT DOESN'T ALLOW US TO DO THAT WITH THE GOVERNMENT MONEY. WE ARE HELPING ELIGIBLE STUDENTS WITH CARES ACT FUNDS. GEARS FUNDS COME OUT OF THE GOVERNMENT. GOVERNOR'S OFFICE IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. AND THEY ARE VERY PRESCRIBED IN HOW WE HAVE TO AWARD THOSE. THE ONLY PLACE WE HAVE ANY FLEXIBILITY, OF COURSE, IS WITH FOUNDATION. WE USE THAT AS THE BACKUP. ANYBODY WHO IS NOT FOR CARES OR GE OH, R GEERS IS FUNDED WITH FOUNDATION DOLLARS. WE SEE THE SAME THING REGARDLESS OF THE FUND. WE SEE THE TREMENDOUS NEED HAS BEEN IN HOUSING, FOOD AND TRANSPORTATION AND LEARNING MATERIALS. IN CHILD CARE IS LESS BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE HAD THEIR CHILDREN AT HOME A LOT OF THE TIME DURING COVID. >> YEAH. IF I MIGHT, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. [00:50:01] DIG DEEPER ON WHY THIS IS FRUSTRATING. WHILE TITLE FOUR ELIGIBILITY SPEAKS TO NEED, IT ALSO SPEAKS TO THE FACT THAT THE STUDENTS HAD ALREADY MADE THE DECISION ALREADY ENROLLED IN CLASSES AND WERE ALREADY COMING. AND IN OTHER WORDS PREVENTED FOR THE STUDENT SITTING OUT THERE SAYING IF I THE MONEY TO PAY TUITION I COULD COME TO SCHOOL. WE CAN'T HELP THOSE STUDENTS. THAT'S NOT ALLOWED UNDER THE CARES ACT. WE CAN'T ANYONE WHO IS NOT A U.S. CITIZENS UNDER THE CARES ACT. WE CAN'T HELP ANYONE THAT BECAUSE OF FAMILY ISSUES THEY WEREN'T DETERMINED TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR PELL OR OTHER TITLE FOUR AID. WE CAN'T HELP THEM EXCEPTION WITH FOUNDATION DOLLARS. WE END UP LOOKING AT A SET OF INDIVIDUALS WHO FRANKLY ALREADY MADE ALL THE DECISIONS TO COME AND HAVE GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS AND ARE HERE, AND NOW YES YOU STILL LOOK AT THE CHALLENGES THAT THEY FACE. SO WE IMAGINE THE ONES WE WOULD HAVE LOVED TO REACH OUT TO AND SAID, COME ON AND ENROLL, WE GOT DOLLARS TO HELP YOU THROUGH THIS PROCESS. WE WEREN'T ALLOWED TO DO THAT UNDER THE CARES ACT. WE COULD NOT PAY, FOR EXAMPLE, TUITION. AND FRANKLY WE THE STUDENTS ARE ACTUALLY PROHIBITED FOR PAYING TUITION USING THESE DOLLARS. IF THEY DON'T TELL US, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY DO WITH THEM. AS OUR FOLKS IN FINANCE SAY IT'S SPONGEABLE MONEY. ONCE THEY GET THE CHECK, THEY CAN DO IT. THESE ARE THE MAN CATEGORIES THEY'RE ALLOWED TO SPEND IN. CHILD CARE, LEARNING MATERIALS, FOOD, HOUSING, TRANSPORTATION. >> I HAVE A QUESTION. ON THE TRANSPORTATION THE 290 THOUSAND. WHAT TYPE OF TRANSPORTATION? WAS THAT PAYING FOR THE FOR THOSE BUS CARD? >> NO. THAT'S USUALLY NOT ASKING FOR MONEY FOR A DART PASS. IT'S USUALLY A STUDENT WHO HAS AN AUTOMOBILE AND THEIR AUTOMOBILE IS BROKEN DOWN OR IN SOME CASES FOR STUDENTS WHO CANNOT GET TO ONE OF OUR CAMPUSES WITH DART. DART MAY NOT GET THEM ALL THE WAY THERE. ONLY PARTIALLY THERE OR THREE HOURS FOR DART TO GET THEM THERE. IT'S USUALLY NOT NECESSARILY A PASS LIKE WE PROVIDE FOR ALL STUDENTS. >> SO YOU'RE ALLOWED TO PAY FOR CAR REPAIRS? >> YES. IF A STUDENT INDICATES THAT'S THEIR NEED FOR EMERGENCY AID, THEN YES. WE ARE ALLOWED TO DO THAT. >> THANK YOU. >> YOU'RE WELCOME. >> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION BECAUSE WE CAN PAY CHILD CARE. WE CAN PAY HOSPITAL BILLS. WE CAN PAY RENT. WE CAN PAY FOR CAR REPAIRS. WE CAN'T PAY FOR TUITION. SO IT'S A IT'S AN INTERESTING WAY IN WHICH THOSE DOLLARS ARE APPLIED TO US. >> DID YOU COVER ALL THE SLIDES? >>. DO ANY OTHER TRUSTEES HAVE QUESTIONS? >> THIS IS JAMESON. QUICK QUESTION. AS LARGE AS WE ARE AND AS MANY STUDENTS WE HAVE THIS ARE IN NEED. $10 MILLION WE'RE ONLY ABLE TO DISTRIBUTE $2.5 MILLION OF THAT. AND I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, ARE WE AGGRESSIVELY TRYING TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT HEY. IF YOU ENROLL, YOU ELIGIBLE FOR THESE INELIGIBLE FOR THESE MONTHLY FUND. YOU HAVE TO PAY THE TUITION, BUT ONCE YOU DO THAT THE DOOR OPENS FROM HOUSING TO LEARNING MATERIALS FOR FOOD. TO MAKE YOU ELIGIBLE FOR THESE FEDERAL DOLLARS. I HATE TO SEE THE CARES ACT MONEY LANGUISHING THERE UNUSED. HOW ARE WE AGGRESSIVELY INFORMING THESE POTENTIAL STUDENTS THAT ENROLLMENT IS THE KEY THAT UNLOCKS THE DOOR? >> YEAH. [00:55:01] WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT. WE HAVE NOT USED THE EMERGENCY AID FUNDS AS AN OUTREACH TOOL AS YOU'VE MENTIONED BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO BE ENROLLED TO ACTUALLY GET THE FUNDS. WE HAVE AGGRESSIVELY TARGETED STUDENTS ONCE THEY ARE ENROLLED TO BE ABLE TO AWARD THESE DOLLARS. AND I DON'T KNOW I THINK WE COULD BETWEEN NOW AND SPRING USE IT A LITTLE BIT AS A CARROT. PLEASE ENROLL FOR SPRING AND YOU WOULD REMAIN ELIGIBLE FOR ADDITIONAL EMERGENCY AID FUNDS. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ENOUGH GUIDANCE IN THE SUMMER AS WE WERE ENROLLING STUDENTS IN THE FALL TO THINK ABOUT USING IT IN THOSE TERMS. WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW THOUGH IS TARGETING STUDENTS THAT WE KNOW ARE ELIGIBLE. WE KNOW THEY ARE TITLE FOUR STUDENTS. WE KNEE THEY'RE ELIGIBLE FOR CARES ACT MONEY. I'LL GIVE AN EXAMPLE I PUT OUT A TARGETED EMAIL THREE WEEKS AGO TO OVER 7,000 STUDENTS THAT ARE ELIGIBLE. WITHIN 24 HOURS WE HAD 1200 APPLICATIONS AND WERE ABLE TO AWARD CARES ACT MONEY TO THOSE 1200 STUDENTS. BUT THAT LEFT OVER 5,000 THAT DIDN'T EVEN RESPOND. DIDN'T GO TO THE WE'RE GOING TO TARGET THOSE PEOPLE AGAIN. BUT THEY HAVE TO APPLY. WE CAN'T JUST AWARD THE DOLLARS. SO LONG ANSWER BUT YEAH IT'S A GOOD IDEA. >> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. >> YEAH THE GREAT POINT. HONESTLY WE HAD ABOUT FIVE DIFFERENT PLANS. AND EACH TIME WE WROTE A PLAN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CAME BACK AND CHANGED THE RULES. WE STARTED MUCH, MUCH MORE AGGRESSIVE IN TERMS OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. TO THE POINT THEY FINALLY SAID, YOU CAN'T JUST GIVE THE MONEY OUT. THEY HAVE TO APPLY FOR THE DOLLARS TO BE ELIGIBILITY. INITIALLY WE WEREN'T PLANNING ORPHAN HAVING AN APPLICATION PLANNING ON HAVING AN APPLICATION PROCESS. IT WOULD BE SIMPLE IN TERMS TO EVALUATE THE NEED. BUT THAT CHANGED AS WE CONTINUED TO GET ALMOST WEEKLY UPDATED REGULATION OUT OF THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION. >> A QUESTION. AND THESE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES AND THE NUMBERS THAT YOU HAVE, ARE THERE ANY DUPLICATION. AND WHAT I SAY DUPLICATIONS I MEAN DID SAY ONE PERSON, YOU GAVE THEM MORE FOR CHILD CARE, AND THEN THEY'RE ALSO IN THE 1206 BECAUSE YOU GAVE THEM MONEY FOR LEARNING MATERIALS? >> THINK THESE ARE UNDUPLICATED NUMBERS. BUT THERE ARE SOME INDIVIDUALS WHO REQUEST EMERGENCY AID IN MULTIPLE CATEGORIES. AND THEY ARE ALLOWED TO DO THAT. BUT THESE ARE UNDUPLICATED CATEGORIES. >> SO HOW DO YOU ACCOUNT FOR THAT? >> WELL WE WOULD HAVE TO WE HAVE A COURSE IN SPREAD SHEET THAT KEEPS UP WITH ALL OF IT. AND WE WOULD HAVE TO DO A FILTER ON THAT TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE NUMBER DUPLICATED NUMBER IS VERSUS TUN DUPLICATED. CAN IN. >> BUT BOTTOM LINE THERE ARE SOME IMPLICATIONS. THEY'RE JUST NOT IN THE 7,422. >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> THAT'S CORRECT. A STUDENT CAN REQUEST AND RECEIVE CARES ACT MONEY IN MULTIPLE CATEGORIES. >> OKAY. I THINK ALL THE BEEN ASKED. THANK YOU SO MUCH. DOCTOR JOSEPH AND DR. WILKINS FOR THAT PRESENTATION AN WE'LL MOVE [4.B. Dallas County Promise Update – November 2020 Presenters: Beatriz Joseph, Pyeper Wilkins ] ON THE DALLAS COUNTY PROMISE. THANK YOU. >> I KNOW WE'RE AT 2:30 SO I WILL TRY TO TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE EVERY YEAR ON THE DALLAS COUNTY PROMISE. THIS IS A SUBSET IN THE ENROLLMENT TALKED ABOUT IN THE PRIOR PRESENTATION. IT'S A BIG DEAL FOR DALLAS COUNTY NOT JUST DALLAS COLLEGE. THIS IS BECOME SOMEWHAT OF A COMMUNITY EFFORT AND HAS LOTS AND LOTS OF INDIVIDUALS [01:00:07] INVOLVED. IT'S HARD TO BELIEVE BUT, DR. MAY AND FOUNDATION BOARD MEMBERS. FINANCE COMMITTEE THE FOUNDATION BOARD MEMBERS THAT WENT AND A FEW COMMUNITY INDIVIDUALS WENT WITH US TO TENNESSEE, IT'S BEEN 4 YEARS NOW. THIS IS SOMEWHAT OUR CHALLENGE AND YOU'VE SEEN THIS BEFORE. A LOT MORE JOBS REQUIRE A COLLEGE EDUCATION THAN THE NUMBER OF ADULTS THAT HAVE EDUCATION. WE SEE 54% OF HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATES ENROLL IN COLLEGE PRIOR TO COVID BUT ONLY 28% COMPLETE THAT. ONE IN 4 ADULTS BETWEEN 25 AND 34 EARN A LIVING WAGE. AND WHITE ADULTS ARE 3 TIMES MORE LIKELY TO EARN THAT LIVING WAGE THAN BLACK AND HISPANIC ADULTS. SO THERE'S DEFINITELY AN EQUITY ALIGNMENT THAT WE'RE FOCUSED ON WITH THE DALLAS COUNTY PROMISE. >>: HAS COME TO BE THE MOST CRITICAL FACTOR OF ALL. IT'S GIVEN US THE ABILITY TO KEEP UP WITH THESE PROMISE STUDENTS, UNDERSTAND WHERE THEY ARE AND HOW WE HELP THEM MOVE FROM ONE EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM TO ANOTHER AND ON INTO A JOB. >>: I HAVE A QUESTION. SO I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR THE BOARD TO GET A PRESENTATION ON THE SUCCESS COACHING AND CAREER MENTORING ASPECT OF DALLAS PROMISE. THAT'S AN ISSUE THAT CAME UP TALKING TO CONSTITUENTS ABOUT SOME ASSISTANCE STUDENTS NEEDED. WE NEED MORE INFORMATION ON THAT SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT WHEN WE INTERFACE ABOUT THE PUBLIC ABOUT DALLAS PROMISE. AND ALSO IF WE COULD HAVE A PRESENTATION ON THE PERSISTENCE OF DALLAS PROMISE STUDENTS. HOW THEY'RE PERFORMING IN TERMS OF THEIR GRADES ET CETERA AND HOW THEY'RE PERSISTING FROM ONE SEMESTER TO ANOTHER. AND HOPEFULLY WE HAVE HAD SOME COMPLETIONS BUT IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE A PRESENTATION ON THOSE FACTORS >>: OKAY. WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE. WE HAVE MORE DATA. WE CAN PROBABLY GIVE YOU MORE ON ANY PIECE YOU WANT TO SEE BUT WE CAN PUT THOSE IN A FUTURE PRESENTATION. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO THIS IS KIND OF OUR RESULTS OF COHORT 1, 2 AND 3 JUST TO GIVE YOU AN OVERALL PICTURE OF HOW WE STARTED AND WHERE WE ARE NOW AND WHAT IT'S LOOKED LIKE YEAR TO YEAR. THE PLEDGE IS THE FIRST PART AND THAT'S JUST A STUDENT SAYING AND INDICATING I HEAR YOU, I HEAR YOU HAVE THE RESOURCES TO HELP ME AND I [01:05:08] PLEDGE TO COMPLETE THE FAFSA AND ENROLL IN COLLEGE. THAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON NOW. I SHOW YOU THAT LAST COLUMN THERE AND I SHOW YOU THE RED PERCENTAGE OF 28 TO SHOW YOU WHAT COVID DID BECAUSE WE HAD AN EXCELLENT PLEDGE RATE FOR THE COHORT THAT JUST STARTED THIS FALL BECAUSE THEY PLEDGED LAST FALL. AND WHEN COVID HIT, THAT WAS IN MARCH AND THAT'S ABOUT THE TIME EVERYBODY STARTS TO THINK ABOUT ENROLLING SO YOU SEE THAT WE LOST SOME GROUND WITH OUR PROMISE COHORT 3 IN THE SPRING BECAUSE WE HAD BEEN AT 33% ENROLLMENT AND WE WENT DOWN TO 28 AND WE ATTRIBUTE THAT DIRECTLY TO COVID AND THE UNSURE SITUATION EVERYBODY WAS FACING IN THE SPRING. >>: QUESTION. SO WE HAVE KIND OF A LOW PLEDGE TO ENROLLMENT RATIO. HAVE WE SURVEYED THOSE STUDENTS THAT PLEDGED BUT DID NOT ENROLL TO FIND OUT WHAT ADDITIONAL BARRIERS OR HESITANCY OR WHY THEY DIDN'T ACTUALLY ENROLL? >>: WE HAVE THAT DATA. IN MANY CASES, THEY PLEDGED TO ENROLL BUT THEY ENROLLED SOMEWHERE ELSE. MAYBE IT WASN'T WITH DALLAS COLLEGE. MAYBE THEY WENT TO UNT DALLAS OR SOMEWHERE ELSE BUT THEY DIDN'T ACTUALLY COME HERE. BUT WE DO HAVE THE DATA THAT SHOWS WHETHER THEY WENT SOMEWHERE ELSE OR THEY DIDN'T ENROLL; IF THEY DIDN'T ENROLL, THIS TIES BACK TO ONE OF YOUR QUESTIONS IN THE EARLIER PRESENTATION TRUSTEE FLORES, WE ARE USING ALL OF THAT DATA TO BE ABLE TO REACH BACK AND SAY, OKAY, YOU DIDN'T ENROLL BEFORE, CAN WE ENROLL YOU NOW? IT'S A YEAR LATER, IT'S 2 YEARS LATER, WHERE ARE YOU? ARE YOU INTERESTED IN A SHORT-TERM TRAINING PROGRAM OR WHAT CAN WE DO TO BRING YOU BACK INTO THE FOLD. SO WE DO HAVE THE DATA AND WE'RE USING IT TO RECONNECT >>: GREAT. IF WE COULD INCLUDE THAT IN THE PRESENTATION AS WELL. THANK YOU >>: LET ME ALSO REMIND THE BOARD HERE IN THAT WHAT WE WERE DOING WITH THE PROMISE ARE NOT GOING AFTER WHILE THE P TECH STUDENT PLEDGED AND EARLY COLLEGE STUDENT PLEDGED THEY'RE NOT COMING TO DALLAS COLLEGE AFTERWARD SAID. NOR DO THOSE GETTING DUAL CREDIT COURSES. THOSE TEND TO BE THE BIG NUMBERS. WHILE EVERYBODY PLEDGES, WE KNOW THAT THE LARGER PERCENT ARE GOING TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE. THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN INTENDED. THAT'S WHY THE PARTNERS ARE SO IMPORTANT. THIS IS ABOUT GETTING STUDENT IN COLLEGE SOMEWHERE. BUT WHO THE STUDENTS ON THESE COHORTS ARE THAT ULTIMATELY ENROLL IN PROMISE STUDENTS ARE THE STUDENTS THAT DIDN'T ENROLL IN AN EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL OR P TECH. THEY DID NOT TAKE DUAL CREDIT OR PREPARE TO TAKE THE AC T OR OTHERS. THESE ARE THE STUDENTS THAT TEND TO ENROLL ARE THE POPULATION THAT WEREN'T PLANNING TO GO TO COLLEGE AT ALL. THAT'S THE DALLAS PROMISE POPULATION AND THE TARGET SO THAT STARTS A MORE DIFFICULT PART OF THE POPULATION THAN THE WHOLE. AND IT WAS ALWAYS BE THE SMALLEST PART OF THE COLLEGE-BOUND RATE. AGAIN, IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, WE HAVE OVER 30,000 P TECH AND EARLY COLLEGE HIGH SCHOOL AND DUAL CREDIT STUDENTS AND YET YOU SEE IN TERMS OF ENROLLS, [01:10:02] 5800 PROMISE STUDENTS THAT'S BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE BEEN LEFT OUT. THOSE ARE THE ONES WHOSE PARENTS SAID YOU CAN'T GO TO COLLEGE BECAUSE WE CAN'T AFFORD IT. SO I WANT TO BE CLEAR ABOUT WHO THE POPULATION IS. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ALL MEANING ALL, THAT'S TO SAY IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU'RE AN IMMIGRANT, IF YOU'RE NOT PELL ELIGIBLE, OR WHO YOU ARE, YOU HAVE A WELCOME PLACE IN THE DALLAS COUNTY PROMISE. IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU DIDN'T TAKE THE RIGHT TEST OR THE SCORES ARE ENROLLED IN THESE OTHER PROGRAMS, YOU HAVE A PLACE. SO I WANT TO BE CLEAR WHO THE POPULATION IS THAT WE'RE TARGETING WITH THE DALLAS COUNTY PROMISE >>: EXCUSE ME. CAN WE GET THAT BROKEN OUT BY CAMPUS? >>: WE CAN. YES WE DO HAVE THAT DATA. HAPPY TO PROVIDE THAT. >>: OKAY. THANK YOU. >>: YOU'RE WELCOME. >>: SO I KNOW ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE PROMISE IS TO COMPLETE THE FAFSA. WAS THE FAFSA DEADLINE THIS PAST SPRING PRE-COVID OR AFTER COVID? >>: I BELIEVE IT WAS PRE-COVID BUT WE ELIMINATED THAT DEADLINE BECAUSE OF WHAT WAS HAPPENING AND WE ALLOWED STUDENTS TO GO UNTIL I BELIEVE JUNE TO ALLOW THEM TO FINISH IT. FAFSA OR TA F SA >>: OKAY. MY FOLLOW-UP QUESTION, DID WE SEE A DROP OFF IN THAT OR WAS THAT NUMBER GO UP? I KNOW IN A FUTURE SLIDE YOU TALK ABOUT IT BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE OVERALL FAFSA COMPLETION RATE >>: THAT'S NOT. I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT TO SEE IF THAT WAS A DROP OFF AS FAR AS THE COMPLETION OF THE FAFSA DURING THAT TIME. >>: I'D IMAGINE THAT'S SOMETHING SOME STUDENTS NEED HELP WITH FACE-TO-FACE AND MAYBE HAVING TO DO THAT ONLINE COULD HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO THEM NOT APPLYING AND NOT BEING ELIGIBLE >>: DEFINITELY. >>: AND TOO WITH THAT ONE, TRUSTEE BRAVO, THERE'S ALSO ANOTHER REASON WHY WE WERE EXTENDED THAT AND THAT IS PART OF HOUSE BILL 3 FOR K 12. NOW THE FAFSA COMPLETION IS A GRADUATION REQUIREMENT. THE STUDENTS CAN WAIVE THAT BUZZ THAT'S BECOME AN IMPORTANT PART OF THE HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATION CRITERIA AS WELL. SO IT'S NOT JUST NOW ABOUT GETTING INTO COLLEGE, IT'S ALSO JUST SIMPLY A REQUIREMENT TO COMPLETE HIGH SCHOOL. >>: THANK YOU >>: NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. DR. MAY MENTIONED WHO OUR PROMISE STUDENTS ARE AND THIS IS JUST A DEEP DEMOGRAPHIC BREAKOUT OF THE PROMISE STUDENTS BY COHORT. AND YOU CAN SEE IT'S A VERY DIVERSE GROUP. WE STARTED WITH THE LOWEST SOCIOECONOMIC HIGH SCHOOLS IN DALLAS COUNTY. WE HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY, WHY ARE YOU DOING THAT? THAT'S GOING TO BE THE MOST DIFFICULT TO DO? DR. MAY LED THE CHARGE AND SAID, SO WHAT, THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO AND THAT'S WHAT WE DID. BUT YOU SEE A DIVERSE GROUP OF STUDENTS IN THE PROMISE. IT VARIES A LITTLE BIT. IT VARIED IN THE ASIAN POPULATION BECAUSE OF A COUPLE COHORTS WE ADDED. ONE IN RICHARDSON AND ONE IN [INAUDIBLE] >>: YEAH, THAT GETS AT THE QUESTION OF, WHICH SCHOOLS? EARLY ON THE BENEFICIARIES WERE SEEDER VALLEY AND MOUNTAIN VIEW AND SOME EXTEND EAST VIEW AND NORTH LAKE. AND AS WE'VE ADDED, WE'VE WORKED OUR WAY UP STARTING WITH THE POOREST PERFORMING SCHOOLS AND ADDING BETTER PERFORMING SCHOOLS EACH YEAR TO THE MIX. >>: NEXT SLIDE. >>: THIS IS ABOUT 30%? CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE PREVIOUS SLIDE? THIS IS ABOUT 30% THAT'S MADE UP OF BLACK, ASIAN, WHITE AND THEN OTHER. ISN'T THAT RIGHT? >>: YES. >>: YEAH. WHAT WE'VE SEEN IT THESE NUMBERS TEND TO PERFECTLY MIRROR THE HIGH [01:15:04] SCHOOLS THAT WE'RE SERVING. SO WE'VE SEEN THIS CHANGE A LITTLE BIT WITH EACH COHORT AND THEN THAT REALLY SPEAKS TO THE SCHOOLS THAT WE'RE ADDING TO THE COHORTS AS WE GO FORWARD. SO, WE'LL SEE SLIGHT SHIFTS IN THIS IN THE FUTURE AS WE MOVE MORE NORTH WITH THE ADDED SCHOOLS >>: YOU KNOW, AND MY THING IS, I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T SEE THAT AS VERY DIVERSE BUT MAYBE BECAUSE IT'S MORE HEAVILY HISPANIC THAN ANY OTHER RACE BUT I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THE ENROLLMENTS AT THE DIFFERENT HIGH SCHOOLS AND SO FORTH. BUT I WOULD THINK THAT WE COULD DO BETTER DEPENDING ON WHERE IT IS AND WHITE AND AFRICAN AMERICA THAT WE CAN SERVE MORE STUDENTS, OR HAVE MORE STUDENTS PARTICIPATING IN THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM BECAUSE IT OFFERS SO MANY BENEFITS THAT GIVE YOU A LEG UP >>: YEAH. WE CAN SHOW THE HIGH SCHOOL DEMOGRAPHICS. WHAT WE'VE DONE IS MIRROR THOSE SO WHEN YOU LOOK PARTICULARLY COHORT 1 WHICH WERE THE HIGHEST POVERTY SCHOOLS, WE WERE RIGHT AT 91% HISPANIC AND AFRICAN AMERICAN STUDENTS IN THOSE SCHOOLS. THAT HAS CHANGED SLIGHTLY AS WE'VE ADDED MORE SCHOOLS THAT REFLECT THAT SO THE POPULATION IS SHIFTING SLIGHTLY ALTHOUGH CLEARLY GREATER ASIAN NUMBERS AS WE'VE MOVED NORTH >>: LAST COMMENT, AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND AT A MINIMUM, I THINK THAT IT'S GOOD THAT WE MIRROR WHAT THESE DEMOGRAPHICS ARE AS A COUNTY BUT I WOULD HOPE THAT WE JUST DON'T SETTLE FOR MIRRORING THE DEMOGRAPHICS BUT WE WOULD BASICALLY TRY TO OFFER OPPORTUNITIES AT A HIGHER LEVEL AND GET AS MANY PARTICIPANTS AS WE CAN >>: ONE OTHER THING I'LL ADD TO WHAT DR. MAY SAID AND TO YOUR POINT, WE ARE DEALING WITH ESPECIALLY AFRICAN AMERICAN MALE STUDENTS ENROLLMENT AND WE'RE STRUGGLING NOT JUST IN PROMISE BUT EVERYWHERE. SO WE'RE WORKING WITH A COUPLE OF COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS THAT ALREADY DO A LOT OF WORK, BIG THOUGHT IS ONE OF THOSE, AND THEY HAVE A PROGRAM CALLED THE FELLOWSHIP INITIATIVE THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM ON BECAUSE THEY ARE, YOU KNOW, DEEP DIVING INTO THE COMMUNITY OF THE AFRICAN AMERICAN MALE AND HELPING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN HELP GET THEM ENROLLED. SO WE'RE DOING SOME WORK THERE TO HELP INCREASE THAT NUMBER AND WE REALIZE THAT IT'S A LOWER NUMBER THAN IT NEEDS TO BE >>: WELL, YOU KNOW, LAST THING IS THAT -- AND IT DIDN'T JUST HAPPEN IN THE LAST YEAR BUT I'VE CONSISTENTLY HEARD THIS FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, THAT WE AS A COLLEGE, WE AREN'T DOING NEARLY THE TYPE OF OUTREACH OR AS MUCH OUTREACH IN THE AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY THAT WE SHOULD BE DOING OR WE DON'T HAVE THE STAFF OR ADMINISTRATION THAT SEEMS TO PARTICULARLY CARE OR THAT ARE INTERESTED IN INCREASING THEIR OUT REACH AND ACTIVITIES WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. AND LIKE I SAID, I JUST DIDN'T START HEARING THAT. I'VE HEARD THAT FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, THAT WE JUST AREN'T AT THE LEVEL OF PARTICIPATION IN THE AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY THAN WE ARE IN SOME COMMUNITIES >>: AND THAT WAS GOING TO BE A QUESTION OF MINE IN THE FOLLOW-UP PRESENTATION ON DALLAS PROMISE IF WE COULD ALSO FIND OUT WHAT TYPE OF OUTREACH AND RECRUITMENT ACTIVITIES SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE WE'RE USING PEOPLE THAT BEST CONNECT WITH STUDENTS. [01:20:04] IT'S ONE THING FOR PEOPLE AT THE DECISION-MAKING TABLES WHO MAYBE HAVE EXPERIENCES OR ARE SO FAR REMOVED FROM THE EXPERIENCES THAT THEY DON'T RELATE AS NEED BE FOR THE DIFFERENT POPULATIONS. SO IT WOULD BE GOOD TO INCLUDE THAT IN THE FOLLOW-UP PRESENTATION >>: WE WILL DO THAT. IT'S DALLAS COLLEGE OUTREACH TEAMS BUT ALSO THE ENTIRE PROMISE TEAM WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, A WHOLE DIFFERENT GROUP OF PEOPLE NOT EMPLOYED BY THE DALLAS COLLEGE. SO WE WILL DEFINITELY INCLUDE THAT >>: COUPLE OF -- GO AHEAD >>: I WAS GOING TO SAY, I'D LIKE TO SEE THE DEMOGRAPHICS, IF WE HAVE THEM, BETWEEN THE STUDENTS WHO PLEDGED AND THE STUDENTS WHO FOLLOWED THROUGH IN TERMS OF ARE WE USING A LOT OF AFRICAN AMERICAN STUDENTS WHO PROMISED BUT DIDN'T FOLLOW THROUGH? MAYBE THAT'S A PLACE WE CAN START IN TERMS OF A MORE ACTIVE OUT REACH IS TO FIND THE STUDENTS THAT PROMISE BUT DIDN'T ENROLL AND SEE IF THERE'S LARGE NUMBER IN THERE THAT ARE FALLING THROUGH THE CRACKS THAT WE CAN THEN, AT LEAST WE HAVE THE CONTACT INFORMATION, A LOT OF INFORMATION ABOUT THEM. THAT'S THE LOWEST HANGING FRUIT TO GET TO THOSE PEOPLE AND WITH THE RIGHT PEOPLE TO MAKE THE CONTACT. BUT IF YOU PROMISE AND DON'T -- OR YOU PLEDGE BUT DON'T ENROLL, THAT'S THE FIRST PLACE I'D THINK TO START >>: YEAH. ABSOLUTELY >>: YEAH. AND JUST A COMMENT THERE. IF Y POPULATION, THEY DO MIRROR THE ENROLLMENT BUT THEN WHEN YOU BREAK THAT DOWN YOU SEE PARTICULARLY AMONG AFRICAN AMERICAN IT'S OVERWHELMINGLY FEMALE AND THE FEMALE IN HIGHER NUMBERS AND PERCENTAGE TO THE POPULATION THAT'S THERE AT THE EXPENSE OF MALES. JUST A REMINDER, WHAT THE PROMISE DOES IS REALLY LEVERAGE THE PARENTS TO A MUCH GREATER EXTENT, GETTING THEM INVOLVED, TEACHERS INVOLVED, IT'S LEVERAGING THE NETWORK ALREADY AROUND THE STUDENT IN A VERY DIFFERENT WAY TO OUTREACH. SO THAT'S A PART OF THE BEAUTY IN THAT IT HELPS BY COMMUNICATING DAILY WITH THE PARENTS, WITH THE TEACHERS, WITH THE COUNSELORS AND ENGAGING THEM IN THAT PROCESS RELATED TO THE FAFSA, PLEDGE, ALL ASPECTS. IT'S A VERY DIFFERENT APPROACH. BACK TO ANOTHER COMMENT, WE ACKNOWLEDGE AND ACTUALLY CHAIR [INAUDIBLE] YOU AS WELL, BE AWARE, WE VIRTUALLY DID NO OUTREACH AT ALL PREVIOUSLY TO DALLAS COLLEGE. WE WERE COMPETING AMONG OUR 7 COLLEGES WITH EACH OTHER. THE DALLAS PROMISE WAS THE ONLY UNIVERSAL ASPECT OF THAT, THAT WAS SIMPLY GOING OUT TO GET STUDENTS IN COLLEGE. EVERYTHING ELSE WAS A MORE COMPETITIVE APPROACH. SO THAT'S WHY AS WE'RE DOING THE REDESIGN WE'VE SAID WE'LL BE ADDING SEVERAL HUNDRED MORE PEOPLE. SOME OF IT IS FOR OUTREACH, SUCCESS COACHES, TO SUPPORT THE STUDENTS BECAUSE THERE WEREN'T ENOUGH PEOPLE TO ENGAGE THESE STUDENTS. DR. JOSEPH TALKED ABOUT A CASE MANAGEMENT. THAT MEANS ONE STUDENT PER ONE EMPLOYEE WHILE THE EMPLOYEE MAY HAVE 20 OR 30 OR 40 THAT THEY'RE CASE MANAGING, IT MEANS THERE HAS TO BE A REASONABLE RATIO THEY CAN HANDLE AND DEAL WITH. SO THAT WAS NOT A HISTORIC PART AND WE HAVE ALMOST NO EMPLOYEES THAT WERE DEDICATED TO THAT OUTLET REACH, GOING INTO THE SCHOOLS, GETTING FOLKS ENGAGED SO THAT'S A NEW RE-CREATION WE'RE BUILDING OUT NOW >>: ANOTHER THING. I'D BE INTERESTED IN KNOWING HOW THE INCARCERATION RATE IS IMPACTING THESE NUMBERS. >>: HMM. OKAY. SO, THE STUDENTS THAT DON'T ENROLL? IS THAT WHERE YOU'RE THINKING WITH THAT? >>: YEAH? >>: OKAY. THAT END UP SOMEHOW IN THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM, IS THAT THE QUESTION? >>: BASICALLY HOW THE INCARCERATION RATE IS IMPACTING THESE NUMBERS. [01:25:04] BECAUSE THESE ARE TEENAGED TO YOUNG ADULTS THAT ARE IN THESE NUMBERS AND I'M CURIOUS AS TO HOW PEOPLE GOING TO JAIL IS IMPACTING THESE NUMBERS. IS THAT WHERE WE'RE LOSING ESPECIALLY AFRICAN AMERICAN MALES? >>: YEAH. THAT WOULD BE A PLACE TO LOOK FOR THOSE THAT PLEDGE BUT DON'T ENROLL, ARE THERE A NUMBER OF THOSE THAT ARE INCARCERATED FROM THE TIME THEY PLEDGE AND ENROLLMENT? I DON' ACTUALLY KNOW THAT, DR. MAY, BUT WE'LL LOOK AND SEE -- >>: IT'S AN INTERESTING QUESTION. IT'S NEVER REALLY COME UP. BUT UNFORTUNATELY THERE'S PROBABLY MORE THERE THAN WE'D LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE IN THAT PROCESS SO, YEAH. THAT'S AN INTERESTING QUESTION. >>: WELL, THERE IS NO SECRET THAT THE RATES OF INCORPORATION IMPACTS HISPANICS AND AFRICAN AMERICANS DISPROPORTIONATELY THAN ANY OTHER RACE BUT I'D BE INTERESTED IN SEEING THOSE NUMBERS ACROSS THE BOARD. >>: OKAY. WE'LL SEE IF WE CAN GET TO THAT. WE'LL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET TO THAT NUMBER >>: SO WE HAVE QUESTIONS FROM TRUSTEE JAMESON THEN RITTER. >>: I'M SORRY, I FORGOT TO LOWER MY HAND FROM THE LAST TIME SO GO ON >>: TRUSTEE RITTER >>: 2 THINGS WHEN WE COME BACK TO THIS AGAIN BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS AN IMPORTANT DISCUSSION. FOLL INCARCERATED, I'D BE INTERESTED IN SEEING IF WE CAN DEVELOP A MECHANISM TO TRACK THE PROCESS OF FOSTER CHILDREN FROM I SD'S HOPEFULLY THROUGH PROMISE AND WHETHER WE CAN RETAIN MORE OF THEM AND HIGHER COMPLETION RATES OF FOSTER CHILDREN IF WE HAD SPECIFIC EFFORTS THERE. IT'S ONE OF OUR MOST AT-RING AND NEGLECTED GROUPS. THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES WITH THE PARTNERSHIPS. SECONDLY, TELL ME IF I'M WRONG PIPER BUT ISN'T SOME OF THE PROMISE STUDENT DEMOGRAPHICS DRIVEN BY THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF OUR PARTNER SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND THE QUALITY IS HIGHLY VARIABLE OVER THE MULTIPLE SCHOOL DISTRICTS WE HAVE? I THINK AT SOME POINT IT WOULD BE VALUABLE IN THE NEXT PRESENTATION TO DO A SURVEY AND EVEN A RATING IF YOU WILL BASED ON OBJECTIVE CRITERIA ABOUT WHICH SCHOOL DISTRICTS ARE ALL IN AND WHICH NEED MORE WORK. THAT'S AN ISSUE TRUSTEES COULD HELP WITH, WITH SOME DISTRICTS THAT ARE PERHAPS NOT EMBRACING THE PROMISE CONCEPT OR DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT. SO I'D BE INTERESTED IN THAT ANALYSIS AS WELL AS THE FOSTER CARE POPULATION. THANK YOU. >>: YES TRUSTEE RITTER, THE DEMOGRAPHICS DO REFLECT THE SCHOOLS AT OUR PROMISE SCHOOLS. IT LINES UP EXACTLY. WE HAVE MORE DATA THAN WE COULD EVER ANALYZE BUT WE DO HAVE DATA BY SCHOOL, BY HIGH SCHOOL THAT WILL SHOW YOU WHAT THE REALLY STRONG HIGH SCHOOLS ARE DOING WHEN IT COMES TO THE PROMISE. AND I'LL SAY FROM A DISTRICT PERSPECTIVE, OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT PARTNERS ARE COMPLETELY COMMITTED AND IN BUT IT VARIES BY SCHOOL LEADERSHIP. THE PRINCIPAL, TEACHERS, COUNSELORS, THAT'S WHERE WE SEE THE DIFFERENCE IN THE NUMBERS AND THE IMPACT ON WHO ACTUALLY GETS ENROLLED >>: LET'S SHINE SOME SUNLIGHT, PIPER, RIGHT? >>: OKAY. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. >>: THANK YOU, FILL, FOR BRINGING UP FOSTER CARE. I HAVE BEEN WANTING TO LOOK AT POSSIBLE OPPORTUNITIES THERE FOR A WHILE AND BASED ON EVERYTHING ELSE THAT'S BEEN HAPPENING, IT SLIPPED BY MIND. SO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT BACK TO THE FOREFRONT. CAN I ASK ANOTHER QUESTION OR DID SOMEBODY ELSE HAVE ONE? >>: YOU CAN DO IT. [01:30:01] >>: OKAY. THE PROMISE IS, I'LL JUST SAY A POOL OF MONEY DESIGNED FOR CERTAIN THINGS BUT IF WE FIND SOME RELATIVITY BETWEEN INCARCERATION, FOSTER CARE, AND SO FORTH, IS THERE PERHAPS SOME WAY WE CAN FORM A PARTNERSHIP TO DEDICATE SOME OF THOSE FUNDS, PARTNER WITH AN ORGANIZATION TO MAKE IT AVAILABLE SO WE DON'T LOSE THOSE STUDENTS THAT HAVE AN INTEREST AND ESPECIALLY IN TERMS OF THOSE THAT ARE INCARCERATED. YOU HAVE A CAPTIVE AUDIENCE. THEY AIN'T GOING ANYWHERE. IT GIVES THEM SOMETHING TO DO AND SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. >>: YEAH. >>: SO THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO ADD >>: YEAH. I TH OPPORTUNITY TO TIE ALL THIS TOGETHER. THE PROMISE, YOU KNOW, SURPRISINGLY THE PROMISE IS REALLY NOT SO MUCH A MONEY THING AS IT IS A COMMUNICATION AND COLLABORATION PIECE. THE PIECES -- THE OTHER POPULATIONS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SO PREVIOUSLY INCARCERATED, INCARCERATED AND FOSTER CHILDREN, THOSE ARE OTHER COHORTS WE CAN BEGIN TO LOOK AT IN A DIFFERENT WAY AND JUST PULLING ALL THE RESOURCES TOGETHER AND HAVING A COMMUNICATION PLAN LIKE WE DO WITH THE PROMISE THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO HELP THOSE PEOPLE IN A MORE COLLABORATIVE WAY. DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK AT. SO THIS LAST SLIDE, I THINK THIS IS THE LAST SLIDE, WE PUT IT IN TO SHOW YOU AGAIN SOMEWHAT WHAT COVID IMPACT LOOKS LIKE RIGHT NOW. AND SO THIS IS LOOKING AT JUST THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT PLEDGED THIS TIME LAST YEAR AT THE END OF OCTOBER, THE 2020 GRADUATES, THEY WERE AT 78% HAD PLEDGED TO THE PROMISE AND 21% COMPLETED THEIR FAFSA. THIS YEAR, WE ARE WAY BEHIND. SO FOR THE GRADUATE WE EXPECT TO SEE IN MAY, ONLY 56% OF THOSE HAVE PLEDGED TO THE PROMISE AND ONLY 14% HAVE COMPLETELY THE FAFSA. AGAIN, WE FEEL THIS IS A SIMILAR SITUATION THAT CHAIR FLORES TALKED ABOUT, THEY NEED MORE HELP THAN WE'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE THEM ONLINE. THEY NEED ONE-ON-ONE, IN-PERSON ASSISTANCE AND THAT'S WHAT THIS IS LOOKING LIKE AT THIS POINT >>: SO QUESTION. CHANCELLOR, YOU REFERENCED THERE WAS A LAW THAT WAS PASSED REQUIRING FAFSA COMPLETION BECOME A REQUIREMENT FOR HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATION. WHEN WAS THAT PASSED. >>: LAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION. >>: AND IT BECAME ENACTED WHEN? >>: I THINK IT BECOMES A REQUIREMENT I BELIEVE THAT WAS A 3-YEAR TIME LAG ON THAT SO I WON'T GET THE YEAR RIGHT BUT IT'S APPROACHING. >>: OKAY. SO IN OTHER WORDS, IT DOESN'T AFFECT THE 2021 HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATES >>: NO. I WOULD IMAGINE -- >>: PIPER SAID IT'S 2022 >>: SO THAT WON'T HELP US IN TERMS OF FAFSA COMPLETIONS IN REGARDS TO 2022 HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATES >>: IT SHOULD HELP SOME ALTHOUGH I WOULD SAY UM, THERE IS AN OUT CLAUSE IN THERE THAT MY GUESS PEOPLE WOULD BE EXERCISING RIGHT NOW TO DO IT. SO TO THE POINT, WE CAN GET THE, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO GET THE PLEDGES UP, THAT'S CRITICAL. BUT THE FAFSA COMPLETION IS, THAT IS A HANDS-ON EXERCISE. THAT IS VERY, VERY DIFFICULT TO DO IN A REMOTE SETTING BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT TO SIT DOWN AND WALK THROUGH THIS WITH SOMEBODY AND GO OVER IT. AND THAT'S MY CONCERN ON THE FAFSA COMPLETION PIECE OF IT. WE SAW IT DROP OFF LAST YEAR. WE WERE HEADED FOR A GREATER DROP OFF THIS YEAR. I WORRY. IT GOES BACK EVEN TO OUR OWN INTERNAL SURVEY WHEN WE HAD 45% OF THOSE [01:35:01] SAYING THAT THE REASON THEY'RE NOT HERE IS BECAUSE THEY DON'T LIKE ONLINE LEARNING. THEY DON'T DO WELL IN THAT ENVIRONMENT. WE SAW THAT THE GREATEST NUMBER OF OCCURRENCES OF THAT HAPPEN WITH HIGH SCHOOL SENIORS WITH THAT POPULATION THAT SAID THIS WAS NOT A PREFERRED MEANS AND I THINK THAT'S IMPACTING THE FAFSA COMPLETION BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO SIT DOWN AND EXPLAIN WHAT FIGURE GOES IN WHAT BOX AND WHAT THAT MEANS. >>: NOW SINCE THE GRADUATING SENIORS ARE BEING IMPACTED BY COVID AND HOW THEY'RE DEALING WITH IT AND THEIR HESITANCY OF ONLINE EXPERIENCE, DO WE HAVE IT WITHIN OUR POWER TO STILL OFFER THEM THE DALLAS PROMISE SCHOLARSHIP ONE YEAR, 2 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD WHEN WE'RE PAST COVID? >>: WE'VE NOT ENTERTAINED THAT YET BECAUSE THIS, YOU KNOW, FROM THE FINANCIAL AID SIDE OF COURSE, WE DO. THE FOUNDATION BOARD WILL CONSIDER SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS WITHIN THE NEXT ONE TO 2 MEETINGS. THEY MEET IN DECEMBER AND IN THE SPRING. SO THAT'S THE SMALLEST PART OF THIS BUT THERE IS A FOUNDATION SCHOLARSHIP THAT COMES INTO PLAY AND THE FOUNDATION BOARD WOULD WEIGH INTO THAT >>: HOPEFULLY THEY'LL DECIDE TO DO THAT BECAUSE THEY WERE IMPACTED BY SOMEWHAT EXTREME SITUATION IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO TRANSITION NORMALLY OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL AND MAKE THEIR ARRANGEMENTS FOR DALLAS PROMISE OR OTHER THINGS THEY MIGHT HAVE WANTED TO BE INVOLVED IN BUT HOPEFULLY THAT WILL BE CONSIDERED. >>: YEAH. I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT EVERYTHING WITH THAT. THE GOAL WAS NEVER TO FOLLOW A SET OF RIGID RULES ABOUT THIS PROGRAM. IT WAS REALLY, HOW DO WE GET PEOPLE IN COLLEGE? HOWEVER, WE KNEW TO SOME EXTENT THAT IF WE DIDN'T SET HARD AND FAST DEADLINES AND THERE WEREN'T SOME CONSEQUENCES THAT FOLKS WOULD CHOOSE TO DELAY AND NOT TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT. SO WE'RE MORE THAN OPEN TO LOOKING AT IT. OUR HEART AND DRIVE IS ABOUT GETTING INDIVIDUALS IN COLLEGE THEN HELPING THEM BE SUCCESSFUL AND GET INTO A CAREER. SO I THINK IF WE CAN SEE HOW WE CAN DRIVE THAT IN A POSITIVE WAY FOR THE GREATEST NUMBER OF PEOPLE, WE'RE VERY OPEN TO SORTING THAT OUT. AGAIN, THE FOUNDATION BOARD ITSELF IS ALWAYS GONNA BE LOOKING AT RESOURCES BUT FOR THE MOST PART, THAT WON'T HAVE A BIG IMPACT ON THE RESOURCE SIDE SINCE THOSE STUDENTS WERE PEL, ELIGIBLE, AND STILL WILL BE BUT WE NEED TO PERSUADE THEM AND SUPPORT THEM SO THAT THEY GO FORWARD. AND MY WORRY IS, WE KNOW THAT IF THEY DON'T MOVE IN RIGHT AWAY, THE ODDS GO UP DRAMATICALLY THAT THEY'LL NEVER ENROLL IN COLLEGE. SO EVERY YEAR THAT PASSES BECOMES HARDER AND HARDER. SO THE OUTREACH, WE'RE MORE THAN WILLING AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING THAT BUT ALSO FINDING THOSE STUDENTS GETS HARDER AND HARDER EVERY YEAR AS WELL JUST BECAUSE THEIR CELL PHONES CHANGE, ADDRESSES CHANGE. SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S -- WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT EVERYTHING WE CAN DO TO BE OF HELP. I DON'T THINK THERE'S GONNA BE AN EASY SOLUTION FOR US AS WE LOOK AT HOW TO GET THESE INDIVIDUALS IN COLLEGE. I HATE THE REALITY OF THAT >>: I WANT TO MENTION, THIS IS A PIECE WHERE WE'RE PARTNERING WITH THE I SDS CLOSELY TO HELP THE STUDENTS FILL OUT THE FAFSA FORMS AND BE INTENTIONAL IN OUR EFFORTS TO HELP THEM. WE REALIZE THAT THIS IS A DIFFICULT TIME ESPECIALLY BECAUSE IT IS ONLINE BUT WE ARE ADDRESSING THAT CONCERN AND PARTNERING WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE THE RESOURCES NEEDED TO COMPLETE THE FAFSA. >>: TRUSTEE JAMESON? >>: IT SEEMED LIKE THERE'S PROPOSED LEGISLATION TO SIMPLIFY OR STREAMLINE THE FAFSA. CAN YOU GIVE US AN UPDATE ON THAT? >>: I WISH. THAT IS A TOP PRIORITY OF EVERYONE IN HIGHER ED, U.S. [01:40:01] DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION. IT'S BEEN OUT THERE AS PART OF IT. CERTAINLY THE CHAIR OF THE HELP COMMITTEE, LAMAR ALEXANDER PUT FORTH A BILL TO SIMPLIFY THIS JUST NEVER REALLY GOT ANYWHERE IN THE PROCESS. THERE'S BEEN A COUPLE OF BILLS IN THE HOUSE TO DO THAT, THAT HAVE NEVER GOTTEN ANYWHERE AS WELL SO WE CONTINUED TO PUSH THAT. QUITE HONESTLY, THERE'S NO REASON THAT IF YOU'RE ON SNAP OR IN SOME OTHER PROGRAMS, IT SHOULDN'T JUST OVER POPULATE YOUR FAFSA. IT'S THE SAME DATA. THE SAME POPULATION. SO THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT WE'RE AWARE OF THAT WOULD MAKE THIS A WHOLE LOT EASIER AND FASTER FOR FOLKS BUT IT'S SO FAR WE HAVE BEEN UNSUCCESSFUL IN CONGRESS GETTING IT THROUGH. THIS TAKES CONGRESSIONAL ACTION. IT IS NOT A JUST A RURAL ISSUE THAT THE DEPARTMENT CAN ADMINISTER. >>: DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM TRUSTEES? AND PIPER, THAT WAS THE LAST SLIDE, CORRECT? >>: YES, THANK YOU. >>: OKAY. WELL THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT PRESENTATION. I BELIEVE WE'RE AT 312 SO WE SHOULD BE WRAPPING UP. I THINK WE ONLY HAVE ONE MORE AGEND ITEM. ACTUALLY 2. ONE IS ON THE APPROVAL OF THE INNER LOCAL AGREEMENT FOR BIO[INAUDIBLE] TERRORISM. ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT OR THE COMMITTEE NOTES FOR THE OCTOBER 6 MEETING? GREAT. I DON'T THINK I SEE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT. SO WE WILL GO AHEAD AND ADJOURN THIS MEETING AT 313 PM. THANK YOU. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.