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>> CHAIR D. FLORES: GOOD AFTERNOON, I CALL TO ORDER THE OPEN MEETING OF THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES OF THE DALLAS COUNTY COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICT. THIS MEETING IS BEING HELD IN IN ACCORDANCE WITH CHAPTER 551 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE AND BROADCAST OF THE INTERNET AS REQUIRED BY LAW.

IT IS IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THE BOARD MAY NOT TAKE FORMAL ACTION ON MATTERS THAT ARE NOT PART OF THE MEETING AGENDA.

WE'LL PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT N ACCORDANCE WITH THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE. SPEAKERS SHALL ADDRESS THEIR PRESENTATIONS TO CHAIR OR BOARD AS A WHOLE.

CHANCELLOR, WILL YOU PLEASE CERTIFY THE NOTICE OF THE

MEETING OF THE AGENDA ARE MILD? >> CHANCELLOR MAY: I CERTIFY THAT THE COPY OF THIS MEETING NOTICE WAS POSTED AS REQUIRED BY THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 551.054.

[3. Discussion about Forming a Diversity, Equity and Inclusion Committee]

>> CHAIR D. FLORES: ARE THERE CITIZENS DESIRING TO ADDRESS THE BOARD? IF NOT, I WOULD LIKE TO FORM AN EQUITY, DIVERSION AND INCLUSION COMMITTEE.

I'M MAKING THE ANNOUNCEMENT REGARDING THAT.

I WOULD LIKE IT TO BE A COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE.

ALL OF ORBOARDS ARE IMPORTANT ON THIS MATTER.

WE NEED TO DRAFT A CHARTER FOR THE COMMITTEE.

>> CHANCELLOR MAY: THANK YOU, MATCH.

THAT'S CORRECT. >> IN ACCORDANCE WITH BOARD POLICY WE HAVE TO HAVE A CHARTER.

WE CAN WORK TO DEVELOP ONE. >> CHAIR D. FLORES: THE CHANCELLOR REVIEW COMMITTEE IS IT AN ADVISORY OR STANDING?

>> ADVISORY COMMITTEE. IT'S EXISTING IN BOARD POLICY.

WE HAVE ESSENTIALLY THREE STANDING COMMITTEES ALL OF WHICH ACT IN AN ADVISORY CAPACITY, THOSE ARE AUDIT, WORKFORCE

AND -- >> WE HAVE FOUR NOW GOVERNANCE.

>> GOVERNANCE IS FOURTH.

>> I STAND CORRECTED. IT DOES.

>> THAT WOULD HAVE TO B BE MODIFIED I GUESS.

>> IT'S GOING TO BE A SEPARATE COMMITTEE.

WE WOULD NEED A CHARTER FOR THE DIVERSITY INCLUSION COMMITTEE CERTAINLY. THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER STANDING COMMITTEE IF ESTABLISHED BY THE BOARD.

>> CHAIR D. FLORES: TRUSTEE COMPTON?

>> C. COMPTON: WHEN ARE YOU PROPOSING TO HAVE THESE

MEETINGS? >> CHAIR D. FLORES: THEY WOULD BE HOPEFULLY ON A QUARTERLY BASIS.

AND WE'LL WORK THE AGENDA AS NEEDED.

>> C. COMPTON: ALL THOSE COMMITTEE MEETINGS -- MIC] -- WEREN'T ALL OF THEM ON A QUARTERLY BASIS OR WAS IT JUST

THE AUDIT COMMITTEE? >> CHAIR D. FLORES: AUDIT.

>> C. COMPTON: JUST THE AUDIT? >> CHAIR D. FLORES: GOVERNANCE IS QUARTERLY. BUT IT'S MEETING A LITTLE BIT MORE OFTEN AS ISSUES COME UP. THIS IS A SHORT MEETING OF IT.

IT'S PREFERABLY A QUARTERLY. BUT IF IT'S NECESSARY TO MEET

MORE OFTEN, THAN WE WILL. >> C. COMPTON: IT SEEMS THAT BASED ON HOW MANY MEETINGS WE AS A BOARD ACTUALLY HAVE, AND WE DO ALL THOSE COMMITTEE MEETINGS IN ADDITION TO THE REGULAR BOARD MEETING ON THE SAME DAY THAT WE'RE GETTING A LITTLE TOP HEAVY COMMITTEE WISE AND TIME TO HAVE THE MEETINGS.

THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING ABOUT HOW OFTEN.

>> CHAIR D. FLORES: SURE. THAT'S SOMETHING WE'LL MONITOR.

AND MODIFY AS WE NEED. THANK YOU FOR YOUR INPUT.

YES? >> D. ZIMMERMANN: COULD THIS B

BE MOVED INTO GOVERNANCE? >> CHAIR D. FLORES: I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE A STAND-ALONE COMMITTEE, WE TALKED ABOUT DIVERSITY FOR THE 24 YEARS I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD, AND NO ADVANCES FROM THE EMPLOYMENT STANDPOINT OR THE PROCUREMENT STANDPOINT. THE ONLY TIME WE HAD HEALTHY MIX OF DIVERSITY AND PROCUREMENT WHEN WE HAD THE 2004 BOND PROGRAM, THE ROJECTS RELATED TO THAT.

I THINK THE BASED ON ACCT, THEIR EQUITY AGENDA, THAT'S ONE THING THEY ADVISE. AND THAT'S WHAT I'M HOPING THIS COMMITTEE WILL FOLLOW. IS THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE ACCT EQUITY AGENDA ON THAT SPECIFIC ISSUE.

DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER TO SAY?

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>> NO, BY BOARD POLICY IF THE BOARD CHOOSES TO ESTABLISH A NEW COMMITTEE IT WOULD REQUIRE A CHARTER.

WE CAN CERTAINLY BRING EXAMPLES OF CHARTERS FOR DIVERSITY, EQUITY AND INCLUSION COMMITTEES FOR THE BOARD TO CONSIDER AT A FUTURE MEETING. AND ESTABLISH THE COMMITTEE.

IT WILL REQUIRE AN AMENDMENT TO BOARD POLICY TO SET FORTH THE NEW COMMITTEE AND ADOPTION OF THE CHARTER.

AT THAT TIME, THE BOARD CAN CERTAINLY HAVE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE FREQUENCY WITH WHICH THE COMMITTEE MIGHT MEET AND OTHER

MATTERS RELATED TO THAT. >> VICE CHAIR W. JAMESON: RIGHT

NOW ALL OF THE COMMITTEES ARE -- >> CHANCELLOR MAY: I GUESS SET UP GENERALLY THREE OR FOUR MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, I'M NOT SURE IF THERE ARE ANYMORE, BUT THAT EFFECTS QUORUM FOR THE COMMITTEE. THIS WOULD THEN --

>> CHAIR D. FLORES: YES. YES, I'M MINDFUL OF THAT.

>> THERE IS NO PROHIBITION AGAINST A COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE. IT WOULD REQUIRE FOUR BOARD MEMBERS IN ORDER TO HAVE A QUORUM.

>> CHAIR D. FLORES: YES, I'M AWARE OF THAT.

YES? >> C. COMPTON: YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME FOR THESE COMMITTEES TO DEQUATELY COVER THE ISSUES. THAT WAS MY CONCERN.

>> CHAIR D. FLORES: SURE. AND WE'LL AGAIN, WE'LL MONITOR THAT. IF WE NEED TO MODIFY OR TWEAK OR WHATEVER, IT'S NOT SET IN STONE IN OTHER WORDS.

WE'RE MINDFUL AND SENSITIVE TO AS A MATTER OF FACT WE DISCUSSED THATTALITY THE WORK SESSION THIS MORNING HOW BOARD MEMBERS ARE PUTTING IN MORE TIME BUT BENEFITING FROM THE TRAININGS

WE'VE BEEN HAVING. >> P. RITTER: I SUPPORT THE EFFORT OF BRINGING GREATER FOCUS AND ACCOUNTABILITY TO EQUITY, DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION. WE HAVE TO DO IT.

WE PRIORITIZE IN OUR STRATEGIC PLAN BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE OPERATIONALLATIONAL OF OUR BOARD INTENT YET.

AND I THINK THAT GAP IS WHAT PERHAPS MOTIVATING THE DESIRE O CONSIDER A COMMITTEE. WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE ISSUE, THERE IS PROCUREMENT AS MENTIONED, HIRING MENTIONED, AND ALSO ISSUES RELATED TO THE EDUCATIONAL CURRICULUM ANDABILITY TO HAVE STUDENTS SUCCEED I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF THE SAME CONCERN THAT CHARLOTTE HAS.

AND I'M WONDERING WHETHER WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY IN OUR EXISTING COMMITTEE STRUCTURE TO BE MORE INTENTIONAL ABOUT VISITING ISSUES OF DIVERSITY, EQUITY AND INCLUSION IN THOSE THREE AREAS. WE HAVE AN ANNUAL PLANNING CALENDAR WE USE FOR EXISTING COMMITTEES AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROGRAM AGENDA ITEMS REALLY ON A ROLLING MULTI-MONTH BASIS.

IS THAT A BETTER WAY TO DO IT? BECAUSE I'VE SEEN THIS ISSUE COME UP IN OTHER SETTINGS. IS EQUITY, DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION SEPARATE OR OUGHT TO BE EMBEDDED IN CORE PROCESSES AND EVERY DECISION WE MAKE. I THINK A COMMITTEE MAKES A SEPARATE. BRINGS ACCOUNTABILITY.

THERE MAY BE SOME OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN OUR EXISTING COMMITTEE STRUCTURE TO GET THE ACCOUNTABILITY AND

OPERATIONALLATIONAL INTENT. >> CHAIR D. FLORES: I AGREE BUT I DON'T THINK WE'RE THERE ET. THERE IS TO HELP US GET THERE.

AND AT THAT POINT, THEN WE CAN REVISIT DOES THIS COMMITTEE NEED TO EXIST OR AT THE POINT WHERE WE CAN FOLD IN.

TO REALLY BUT A FOCUSED, TARGETED LOOK AT THIS ISSUE THROUGH EVERYTHING THAT WE DO, WE NEED A COMMITTEE TO DO THAT.

AND SO AGAIN, EALIZING THAT WE MAY GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE CAN DISSOLVE A COMMITTEE OR SUNSET IT, WHATEVER THE APPROPRIATE TERM BECAUSE WE'RE AT THE POINT WHERE WE CAN FOLD

IT IN. >> P. RITTER: BECAUSE IT'S REALLY A GOVERNANCE ISSUE, WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT.

LIKE HOW DOES THIS BOARD ASSURE ACCOUNTABILITY FOR EQUITY, DIVERSITY, AND INCLUSION? DO WE DO DEDICATED -- A TASK FORCE, EMBED THE WORK AND OUR EXISTING COMMITTEE STRUCTURE? THOSE ARE THREE DIFFERENT ALTERNATIVES THAT CAN HELP REACH THE GOAL. IF THE DECISION OF THE BOARD IS TO START WITH THE COMMITTEE AND RIGHT OFF THE BAT, I'M WILLING TO SUPPORT THAT. BUT THERE ARE SOME OTHER OPTIONS TO REACH THE GOAL.

>> C. COMPTON: GO AHEAD. >> M. BRAVO: I THINK BECAUSE IT'S BEEN NEGLECTED FOR SUCH A LONG TIME AND BECAUSE THERE HASN'T BEEN A LOT OF PROGRESS WHEN WE TALK ABOUT DIVERSITY, THAT WE SHOULD ELEVATE IT TO THE LEVEL OF A COMMITTEE.

AND HEY, IF THE COMMITTEE AKES THESE GREAT HELPS AND THINGS

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IMPROVE, THEN MAYBE WE WON'T NEED IT.

OBVIOUSLY, IF WE LOOK AT THE NUMBERS MONTH TO MONTH, IT'S NEEDED. IF WE START OUR DAYS A LITTAYLE BIT EARLIER TO ACCOMMODATE EVERYTHING, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD MOVE IT OFF BECAUSE IT'S NOT CONVENIENT.

>> C. COMPTON: FIRST ONE IS A COMMENT.

I FOUND OUT MANY, MANY YEARS AGO THAT TOO MUCH AND COMMIT TO TOO MUCH YOU FIND YOU ARE NOT DOING A GOOD JOB AT ANYTHING.

QUESTION FOR JOE. WEREN'T YOU -- DIDN'T YOU HAVE A REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL OUT ON THE STREET FOR SOMEBODY AND YOU TOLD

ME -- WHAT IS THE STATUS? >> CHANCELLOR MAY: WE'RE IN THE FINAL STAGES OF THAT. THE RFQ HAS CLOSED.

THE JOHN IS LOOKING DOWN BUT THE COMMITTEE HAS MET, INTERVIEWED THE -- THOSE THAT HAD SUBMITTED PROPOSALS AND I'M WAITING FOR

THE RECOMMENDATION ON THAT. >> C. COMPTON: BUT WE'RE HIRING

A CONSULTANT OR HIRING A PERSON? >> CHANCELLOR MAY: IT'S A CULTURE TO HELP US DESIGN THE OFFICE TO CREATE WHAT THE SYSTEMS ARE SO WE CAN HIRE STAFF GOING FORWARD.

-- CONSULTANT. >> C. COMPTON: WHO HAS

ADMINISTRATIVE RESPONSIBILITY? >> CHANCELLOR MAY: I'M GOING TO TALK TO THE BOARD ABOUT THAT IN OUR CLOSED SESSION LATER TODAY.

>> VICE CHAIR W. JAMESON: I AGREE THERE ARE OTHER AREAS WE COULD FOCUS ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE BESIDES HAVING A COMMITTEE. I THINK AT THIS POINT IN TIME IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO GIVE THAT KIND OF FOCUS TO THIS ISSUE.

AND AS A COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE, IT'S A NECESSARY PIECE OF THIS.

THE OTHER COMMITTEE MEETINGS WE HAVE ARE NOT COMMITTEES OF THE WHOLE. AND PEOPLE CHOOSE TO COME TO

THOSE. >> C. COMPTON: THE ROBOT SAID, SHUT UP.

>> VICE CHAIR W. JAMESON: I WON'T TAKE THAT PERSONALLY.

BUT I THINK AT THIS POINT IN TIME, IT'S AN ISSUE THAT AGAIN, HAS SOMEWHAT LANGUISHED OVER TIME.

THAT NEEDS THE FOCUS OF A COMMITTEE.

IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOMEONE HIRED TO DO THIS, I THINK AT THE SAME TIME WE CAN ALL WORK TOGETHER AS A COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.

WHERE IT HAS NOT HAPPENED YET. MY $0.02 ON IT.

>> CHAIR D. FLORES: ALL RIGHT. YES?

>> D. ZIMMERMANN: IF I MIGHT ASK, WHAT KIND OF DOLLARS ARE WE LOOKING AT USING HERE? HIRING AND STAFFING AND IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE LOOKING AT A PRETTY BIG DOLLAR AMOUNT.

>> CHAIR D. FLORES: NO DOLLARS FOR THE COMMITTEE.

>> D. ZIMMERMANN: NOT THE COMMITTEE BUT EVIDENTLY THE FRUIT OF WHAT WE DEVISE, WHAT WE COME UP WITH.

>> CHANCELLOR MAY: WE HISTORICALLY MADE A SUBSTANTIAL INVESTMENT IN THAT AREA AND PLAN TO CONTINUE.

WE HAVE NOT ALWAYS SEEN THE RESULTS WE WANTED FOR THAT.

WE HAVE OPPORTUNITIES RIGHT NOW TO BECAUSE F VACANCIES AND OTHER THINGS THAT ARE THERE TO REDESIGN THIS AND RETHINK IT.

AND PARTICULARLY WITH THE BOND ISSUE COMING UP WHERE WE'RE ENGAGED IN THIS OVER SIX TO 10 YEARS WITH CONSIDERABLE DOLLARS WE CAN HAVE AN IMPACT ON SMALL BUSINESS AND OTHERS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. WE WANT TO BE THOUGHTFUL, CAREFUL AND INCLUSIVE WITH THAT. WE ADDED ADDITIONAL STAFF WHEN WE GET INTO THE BONDS BECAUSE OF THE SCOPE AND SCALE OF THE PROJECT. WE NORMALLY DON'T DEAL WITH OVER A BILLION DOLLAR PROJECT WITHIN A FIXED PERIOD OF TIME.

THAT'S GOING TO BE THE CASE HERE.

>> D. ZIMMERMANN: THE DIVERSITY, EQUITY AND INCLUSION IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT WAS ON THE BOND?

>> CHANCELLOR MAY: WE PUSHED TO ENGAGE MINORITY OF WOMEN ON BUSINESSES IN OUR PROCESSES AS WE GO THROUGH THAT.

SO WE'RE GETTING FOLKS CLEARLY. WE'RE NOT SEEING THE RESULTS THAT HAD EEN SEEN IN OTHER ORGANIZATIONS WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY. WE'RE TRYING TO LEARN FROM THAT AND FIGURE OUT THE BEST WAY TO STAFF AND STRUCTURE THAT.

HOW TO ORGANIZE IT, HERE WE PUT IT WE THINK MAKES A DIFFERENCE.

AND HOW WE ENGAGE THE MINORITY COMMUNITY MAKES A DIFFERENCE AS

WELL. >> CHAIR D. FLORES: THAT IS ON THE PROCUREMENT SIDE. ON THE EMPLOYEE SIDE EVERY MONTH WE HAVE AN INFORMATIVE REPORT. AND THERE ARE NUMBERS THAT DON'T EVER MOVE, LIKE FOR 10 OR 15 YEARS, THEY HAVE NOT MOVED.

THERE NEEDS TO BE A DEDICATED LOOK AT THIS.

THE BOARD NEEDS TO SEND A STRONG MESSAGE.

>> D. ZIMMERMANN: PUTTING MONEY BEHIND IT IS HOW IT'S GOING TO

CHANGE? >> CHANCELLOR MAY: WE PUT MONEY BEHIND IT NOW. I MEAN, THAT'S ONE OF THE EXPECTATIONS IN OUR EMPLOYMENT PROCESS, WHICH WE SPEND CONSIDERABLE TIME ON. IN A YEAR, IT'S OUR RECRUITMENT

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PROCESS. A BIG PART OF OUR WORK, EVEN WITH THE ENGAGEMENT WITH K-12 HAS BEEN TO REACH MUCH DEEPER INTO THE HARDER-TO-SERVE POPULATIONS WITHIN OUR COMM COMMUNITY. AND CERTAINLY, THAT HAS TAKEN ADDITIONAL RESOURCES AND PRODUCED RESULTS BECAUSE OF THOSE THINGS WE INVESTED. WE THINK IN SOME CASES WE NEED TO DO THE SAME OPERATIONALLY AS WITH OUR EDUCATIONAL

PROGRAMMING. >> CHAIR D. FLORES: ON THE STUDENT SIDE, THE ADDITIONAL MONIES, AS THE CHANCELLOR WAS SPEAKING ABOUT, HAS CERTAINLY PAID OFF.

BECAUSE OUR STUDENT NUMBERS PRETTY MUCH TRACK WHAT THE COUNTY DEMOGRAPHER. WE'RE DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB ON THE STUDENT SIDE. WE ALSO NEED TO LOOK WHERE THE ROLLING IS THE COMPLETION TRACKING EQUITABLY? I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE LOOKED AT.

AGAIN, ON THE EMPLOYMENT AND PROCUREMENT SIDE, WE'VE GOT A LONG WAY TO GO. AND IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE, IF YOU WANT TO REACH YOUR GOALS AND OBJECTIVES, I WOULD IMAGINE ALWAYS IT'S GOING TO TAKE INVESTMENT OF TIME AND RESOURCES. NOT ALWAYS NECESSARILY MONETARY.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? IF WE COULD HAVE A DRAFT OF A CHARTER. AND MOVE FROM THERE.

>> I TAKE Y DIRECTION FROM THE BOARD.

IF THE CONSENSUS FROM THE BOARD IS TO BRING FORWARD A CHARTER FOR A NEW COMMITTEE, A DIVERSITY, EQUITY AND INCLUSION COMMITTEE WE'LL CERTAINLY DO THAT AND LOOK T THE CHARTER TO SEE IF IT ADDRESSES THE CONSTITUENT PRANKS IN AN

ADEQUATE WAY AS NECESSARY. >> C. COMPTON: IN ADDITION TO THE CHARTER, DRAFT CHARTER, ABOUT RESPONSIBILITIES, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME CLEAR EXPECTATIONS.

BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IF WE FORM THE COMMITTEE THEN EVERYBODY NEEDS TO BE CLEAR ON WHAT WE EXPECT THE END RESULT O BE.

>> YES. >> CHAIR D. FLORES: THE BOARD, THE CHARTER WILL BE DRAFTED. AND ONCE IT IS PUT BEFORE US,

THE BOARD HAS THE INPUT. >> C. COMPTON: ON THE

EXPECTATIONS? >> CHAIR D. FLORES: IT'S THE EXPECTATIONS ARE NOT IN THERE, THEN IT'S A DISCUSSION TO

CONSIDER. >> I'LL CERTAINLY DO THAT.

IT WOULDN'T BE MY PROVINCE TO SUGGEST THE PRIORITIES, MISSION OR EXPECTATIONS OF THE BOARD ARE.

THAT'S A BOARD DETERMINANT. AND I'LL PROVIDE EXAMPLES, CERTAINLY, OF OTHER COMMITTEES OF A SIMILAR NATURE TO SEE IF THEY ARE CONSIST WITH WHAT THIS BOARD WANTS THAT COMMITTEE TO

DO. >> CHANCELLOR MAY: NORMALLY THOSE HAVE TAKEN SEVERAL ITERATIONS, NOT A ONE MEETING AND GET IT DONE. IT'S GOING BACK AND FORTH.

>> I FULLY EXPECT THAT. >> P. RITTER: AS YOU READ THE CHARTER, CONSIDER THE ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES OF THIS COMMITTEE, AND OTHER COMMITTEES WE HAVE AND FROM A PRACTICAL POINT OF VIEW, WHAT KIND OF ISSUES MIGHT COME THROUGH THIS COMMITTEE THAT WILL ALSO COME THROUGH OTHERS AND NOT CREATING A CIRCULAR PROCESS OR UNDO DELAY IN DECISION MAKING.

[Additional Item]

>> I'LL BE MINDFUL OF THAT. AND A TOPIC OF DISCUSSION WHEN I COME BACK ND DO A COMPARISON BETWEEN THE EXISTING COMMITTEES AND NEW PROPOSED COMMITTEES SO EVERYONE IS ON THE SAME PAGE.

>> P. RITTER: THE GUIDANCE FROM ACCT WOULD BE REALLY -- AND.

>> THEY ARE A GOOD RESOURCE AND I PLAN TO RELY UPON THEM TO HE EXTENT THEY HAVE DONE WORK IN THIS AREA.

>> CHANCELLOR MAY: THEY HAVE EXAMPLES.

>> THEY DO. THERE IS TEMPLATES.

WE WON'T BE STARTING FROM SCRATCH.

>> CHAIR D. FLORES: ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? NO, THANK YOU. AND THEN, MS. MOLINA, I THINK YOU HAVE AN INFORMATIVE ITEM I NEED TO SPEAK TO NOT ON THE AGENDA. IS IT APPROPRIATE I NFORM

WITHOUT IT BEING ON THE AGENDA. >> WANTED TO ANNOUNCE THE

CHANCELLOR'S COMMITTEE. >> CHAIR D. FLORES: IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA FOR THE ANNOUNCEMENTS.

>> IS THAT OKAY? >> IT'S FINE --

[A. Approval of Agreement with Dallas Area Rapid Transit (DART) Renewing Two-Year Contract to Provide DART GoPass for Students]

>> CHAIR D. FLORES: I'LL GO AHEAD.

THE CHANCELLOR'S REVIEW PROCESS FOR THE TIMELINE WE APPROVED LAST YEAR WE'RE AT THE OINT WHERE T NEEDS TO START.

I ASKED THE SAME MEMBERS, VICE CHAIR JAMESON, TRUSTEE RITTER AND TRUSTEE BRAVO AND TRUSTEE ZIMMERMANN, TO SERVE ON THE CHANCELLOR REVIEW COMMITTEE, AND WE'RE FORTUNATE THEY HAVE AGREED. THEY WILL BEGIN TO MEET ON CHANCELLOR'S REVIEW PROCESS. VERY GOOD.

THAT'S THE ANNOUNCEMENT. THEN THAT CONCLUDES OUR AGENDA.

DID I FORGET SOMETHING? SORRY ABOUT THAT.

>> CHANCELLOR MAY: WE WOULD PROVIDE THE OPPORTUNITY, E ARE

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ASKING THE BOARD AND THE PECIAL MEETING TO CONSIDER ENEWING OUR APPROVAL OR AGREEMENT WITH THE DALLAS AREA RAPID TRANSIT AUTHORITY. THAT'S WRAPPING OUR OUR HIRD YEAR. AND ACTUALLY, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A CRUNCH TIME ON THIS FOR STUDENTS AS TH THERE IS A TERM.

WE SHARED THE RES RESULTS OF THT OVER THE LAST YEAR AND HOW THAT'S GROWN AND USED BY STUDENT STUDENTS.

WE'RE HAPPY TO REVIEW THAT, I BELIEVE MS. ROBINSON, THE RATE ARE THE SAME. THE BIG DIFFERENCE IS THAT WE'RE COMBINING THE EL CENTRO EFFORT WITH THE GOPASS THAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PASS. NOW IT'S ALL IN ONE PACKAGE RATHER THAN BEFORE WE'VE DONE THE TWO SEPARATELY.

>> THIS IS HE SAME PRESENTATION WE GAVE A FEW MONTHS AGO.

WHAT WE THINK ARE THE FANTASTIC BENEFITS FOR STUDENTS AND HOW SUCCESSFUL THIS PROGRAM HAS GONE, NOT ONLY IN THE GROWTH OF THE PROGRAM BUT ALSO IN RETENTION OF OUR STUDENTS AND HOW STUDENTS ARE USING THAT SAVED MONEY.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE FOUND OUT WHERE THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN PAYING FOR TRANSPORTATION THEY ARE NOW PAYING FOR FOOD OR HOUSING OR OTHER EXPENSES THAT ARE NECESSARY AND BARRIERS WE KNOW OF AS WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO IMPROVE THOSE A AREAS.

WE HAVE WORKED WITH D.A.R.T. THE CONTRACT WE HAVE NOW IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT IN THERE. FROM A STANDPOINT OF EXPENSE LEVELS IT'S BASICALLY EXPENSE NEUTRAL BASED ON CURRENT VOLUME THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY PROCESSING. OF COURSE, EXPENSES COULD GO UP.

WE SEE RIDERSHIP O UP. AND AS THE DISTRICT XPANDS IN GROWTH IT'S VERY POSSIBLE THE EXPENSE LEVEL COULD GO UP. IT MEANS THAT MANY MORE PEOPLE ARE BENEFITING FROM THE PROGRAM AND SAVING FROM THE WHOLE PROGRAM. WE HAVE NEGOTIATED WITH D.A.R.T.

TO COMBINE BOTH EL CENTRO AND THE GOPASS, WHICH WAS A PILOT FOR THE FIRST THREE YEARS, INTO ONE CONTRACT THAT WE'RE DOING.

AND THAT'S WHAT IS ON THE REGULAR AGENDA OR SPECIAL AGENDA ITEM TO APPROVE THAT FOR ANOTHER THREE YEARS.

BUT IN ESSENCE, WE DON'T SEE THAT'S GOING TO CHANGE ANY TYPE OF DOLLARS BASED ON CURRENT OTHER THAN IF WE HAVE GROWTH IN THOSE AREAS. IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OR WANT ME TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE PRESENTATION, I WOULD BE HAPPY

TO. >> D. ZIMMERMANN: THERE IS NOT A

DOLLAR AMOUNT MENTION. >> WE DO $2.9 MILLION BASED ON CURRENT VOLUME. 2.7 THE YEAR BEFORE AND 2.4 THE YEAR BEFORE. WE CAN'T PUT A DOLLAR VOLUME BECAUSE IT DEPENDS ON THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS WHO APPLY.

>> D. ZIMMERMANN: THERE IS NOT A NEIGHBORHOOD?

>> UNDER $7 MILLION. WE'RE NOT GOING TO PUT THAT IN A CONTRACT. I CAN GIVE IT AS BACKGROUND INFORMATION. WE CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW -- EXCUSE

ME? >> C. COMPTON: $7 MILLION.

>> OVER THREE YEARS. WE DID 2.4 IN THE LAST TWO YEARS, THEN $2.7 MILLION, I EXPECT THIS CALENDAR YEAR TO BE AT ABOUT 2.9. JUST UNDER 3 AM MILLION A YEAR, NOT KNOWING THE GROWTH WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY $6 MILLION.

>> C. COMPTON: YOU ARE LOOKING AT, WE WERE UNDER A THREE-YEAR CONTRACT. AND WHAT YOU ALL ARE ROPOSING IS TO DO ANOTHER THREE-YEAR CONTRACT?

>> YES, MA'AM. AS OPPOSED TO A PILOT, THIS IS AN ACTUAL CONTRACT. THREE -- THANK YOU FOR THAT.

>> D. ZIMMERMANN: THIS IS A T TWO-YEAR.

>> THE HEADER IS WRONG. IN THE BODY OF IT STATES JANUARA MISTAKE. IT IS A THREE-YEAR CONTRACT.

WHEN WE APPROVE IT IN THE SPECIAL AGENDA ITEM, KNOW YOU ARE APPROVING A THREE-YEAR CONTRACT.

>> C. COMPTON: OKAY. >> D. ZIMMERMANN: WITHOUT A

DOLLAR AMOUNT. >> WITHOUT A DOLLAR AMOUNT.

>> CHAIR D. FLORES: AND I BELIEVE YOU GAVE US THE NUMBERS A FEW MONTHS AGO. HOW MUCH HAS RIDERSHIP INCR

INCREASED? >> 34%, I THINK.

GIVE ME A CHANCE TO LOOK. YEAH, 34%.

WE WENT FROM $25,000 ON CALENDAR YEAR IN 2017 WHEN WE STARTED THE PROGRAM. 25,000 RIDERS TO ALMOST 35,000

RIDERS A YEAR LATER. >> CHAIR D. FLORES: THAT ARE

DCCCD? >> THESE ARE DCCCD.

THIS IS NOT AN EMPLOYEE PROGRAM OR ANYTHING ELSE.

JUST THE GOPASS. WE'LL GIVE YOU ANOTHER UPDATE

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HERE IN ANOTHER FEW MONTHS BECAUSE THE CONTRACT WITH D.A.R.T. IS ON A CALENDAR YEAR BASIS, WE EASURE EVERYTHING THEY DO ON A ALENDAR YEAR BASIS.

THAT'S WHY YOU USUALLY GET AN UPDATE IN THE SPRING.

>> C. COMPTON: IT'S ON THE SPECIAL MEETING AGENDA?

>> MMHMM. >> C. COMPTON: I WORRY ABOUT THIS SOMETIMES. OR I THINK ABOUT IT.

DO WE NEED TO GET AN APPROVAL FOR THIS, DO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE T THAT WE SPECIFY THREE YES AND SO IT GETS CORRECTED?

>> YEAH. I ASKED ROB ABOUT THAT EARLIER.

HE SAID THE HEADER, THE TITLE IS NOT REALLY -- AND I'M SPEAKING JUNIOR LAWYER HERE AGAIN. BUT I WANTED TO MAKE IT CLEAR AND YOU WERE BRINGING IT UP, IT IS A THREE-YEAR ONTRACT.

AS THE BODY SAYS, IT IS THE START DATE, JANUARY 1, 2020.

THE END DATE IS DECEMBER 31ST, 2022.

AND THAT IS THREE YEARS. >> C. COMPTON: I JUST WANT TO

MAKE SURE IT'S CORRECTED. >> WE'LL MAKE THE NOTATION IF IT'S APPROVED BY THE OARD. THE TERM OF THE AGREEMENT IS SET FORTH CLEARLY IN THE AGREEMENT, IT'S A THREE-YEAR AGREEMENT.

AND IF APPROVED BY THE BOARD, IT'S A THREE-YEAR AGREEMENT.

>> D. ZIMMERMANN: HOW IS THIS IN >> I CAN MAKE THE AMENDMENT.

>> D. ZIMMERMANN: THE DOLLAR AMOUNT.

>> CHAIR D. FLORES: TALKING ABOUT THE BOARD BUDGET BOOK?

>> D. ZIMMERMANN: YES. >> CHANCELLOR MAY: WE HAVE A NOT

TO EXCEED AMOUNT ANNUALLY. >> IF THERE WAS A MATERIAL CHANGE IT WOULD COME BACK TO TO BOARD.

>> CHANCELLOR MAY: IF IT EXCEEDS, WE BRING IT BACK.

>> D. ZIMMERMANN: WE DON'T KNOW THE AMOUNT, DO WE?

>> NO, WE DON'T KNOW HOW MANY STUDENTS WILLING APPLY FOR THE GOPASS. THIS IS A REQUIREMENT CONTRACT D.A.R.T. AGREED TO PROVIDE GOPASSES FOR STUDENTS WHO QUALIFY. WE DON'T KNOW THE PRECISE NUMBER BUT WE AGREED ON A RATE. IT'S NOT SUSCEPTIBLE OR PRECISE

BUT JOHN IS GIVEN A RANGE. >> CHANCELLOR MAY: WE HAVE A NUMBER IN THE BUDGET BOOK FOR THIS YEAR.

COVERING THAT GOING FORWARD. SHOULD IT NOT, WE'LL COME BACK TO THE BOARD FOR ADDITIONAL APPROVAL.

>> C. COMPTON: ON AGENDA ITEM, I CAN'T REMEMBER, I LOOKED AT -- SHOULD WE PUT NOT TO EXCEED IN THE BOARD AGENDA ITEMS?

>> I DON'T THINK THAT'S ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY BECAUSE IT'S IN THE BUDGET BOOK AS A BUDGET ITEM.

IF IT EXCEEDED THAT AMOUNT, IT WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE

BOARD FOR APPROVAL. >> C. COMPTON: I UNDERSTAND.

BUT FOR THE RECORD, THE OFFICIAL RECORD FOR THE PUBLIC SHOULDN'T

WE ADD N NOT TO EXCEED. >> THAT WOULD ONLY BE FOR NE YEAR AND THIS IS FOR THREE YE YEARS.

IN WE'RE STILL LEARNING HOW MUCH THIS CAN GROW, JUST LIKE FROM THE FIRST TO THE SECOND YEAR, IT WAS 10,000 MORE STUDENTS RIDING THE PROGRAM THAN BEFORE. IT HAD GONE UP AND I'LL SHOW YOU AGAIN IN 2019, WE HAD A SUBSTANTIAL INCREASE.

AND IF I PUT A NOT TO EXCEED, I MEAN, THE TERMS OF TH THE AGREEMENT SET THE RATE WE PAY BASED ON THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS WHO ARE ELIGIBLE AND GOING TO APPLY.

IF ENROLLMENT GOES DOWN, THAT NUMBER GOES DOWN.

>> C. COMPTON: -- >> I COULD PUT 7 MILLION AND

BE WRONG. >> C. COMPTON: I UNDERSTAND BUT THIS COMES UP ALL THE TIME. AND I REFUSE TO BELIEVE THAT AN ORGANIZATION THIS BIG THAT WHETHER YOU ARE SAYING THAT OR NOT, OU GOT SOME IDEA ABOUT THESE NUMBERS.

OKAY? AND THAT BOTHERS ME THAT WHEN A QUESTION IS ASKED, THEN WE GO THROUGH THESE LONG CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THESE DOLLARS. I MEAN, THIS EVEN PERTAINS TO THE BOND PROGRAM, THE CONSULTANTS ALWAYS COMES UP.

I REFUSE TO BELIEVE THAT A GROUP OF HIGHLY-EDUCATED, PROFESSIONAL PEOPLE ARE OUT HERE DEALING WITH MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, DEALING WITH CONTRACTS, DIFFERENT DOCUMENTS, AND YOU ALL DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA ABOUT THIS MONEY ON THESE ITEMS.

>> CHAIR D. FLORES: IS THERE A COMPROMISE?

>> I MEAN, AS I STATED EARLIER, MY FIRST EXPECTATION OR WHAT I HAVE DONE IN MY CALCULATIONS WHAT I WAS EXPECTING IS AROUND

$7 MILLION OVER THREE YEARS. >> CHAIR D. FLORES: OVER THREE

YEARS? >> YEAH.

>> CHAIR D. FLORES: SO IF IT EXCEEDED THAT THEN YOU COME BACK

TO THE BOARD. >> RIGHT.

>> CHAIR D. FLORES: THE COMPROMISE, NOT TO EXCEED

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$7 MILLION OVER THREE YEARS? >> THAT'S OKAY.

>> CHAIR D. FLORES: IF IT DOES, COME BACK TO THE BOARD, RIGHT?

>> D. ZIMMERMANN: IN THE FOURTH YEAR?

>> WHENEVER WE EXCEEDED $7 MILLION.

WE MIGHT NOT EVER EXCEED $7 MILLION.

>> C. COMPTON: I KNEW YOU HAD SOMETHING TO SAY.

GO AHEAD. >> THANK YOU, TRUSTEE COMPTON.

>> NO, I AGREE THIS BOARD AS IF THE BOARD IS INCLINED IN THEIR CONSIDERATION OF THIS ITEM ADD THE SPECIAL BOARD MEETING IF THEY WISH TO HAVE A NOT TO EXCEED NUMBER ADDED THAT WILL BEP BINDING UPON AND WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK FOR BOARD AUTHORIZATION. THAT IS APPROPRIATE.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE, CLEAR, THES NOT A NOT TO EXCEED NUMBER, WHAT THE NEGOTIATION INVOLVED THEY WOULD PROVIDE D.A.R.T. GOPASSS WITHOUT AN ABSOLUTE AT A RATE AGREED UPON.

FROM A BUDGETARY STANDPOINT, I THINK JOHN HAS SAID IT'S

BUDGETED FOR 2.4 MILLION -- >> 2.9.

>> IT CAN'T EXCEED WITHOUT COMING BACK TO THE BOARD FOR AUTHORIZATION. THERE ARE SAFEGUARDS IN PLACE.

CERTAINLY, I HAVE NO OBJECTION TO THAT MOTION.

>> D. ZIMMERMANN: WITH THE 2.9 MILLION?

>> IT'S A THREE-YEAR CONTRACT. >>

>> C. COMPTON: WHICH WILL BE ABOUT 7 MILLION.

>> IF 7 MILLION, IF THE PROGNOSTCATIONS ARE OFF, HE'LL EXPLAIN WAY AND INCREASED ENROLLMENT OR --

SPEAKERS] >> DECREASES, HE WON'T COME BACK. BECAUSE YOU WON'T SPEND THAT

MUCH. >> CHAIR D. FLORES: WE'VE GOT SOMEONE THAT HAD THEIR HAND UP WAITING.

BEFORE YOU DO THAT. 2.9 TIMES 3 IS 8.7 MILLION.

YOU ARE SAYING 2.9 FOR THIS YEAR?

>> YOU ARE RIGHT. WE ARE RUNNING $3 MILLION A YEAR AND A THREE-YEAR CONTRACT. SOW YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT

$9 MILLION. >> CHAIR D. FLORES: ANYWAY, IS THERE A WAY TO ADDRESS THAT? DO WE NEED TO ADDRESS THAT OR JUST LEAVE IT AS IT IS NOT TO EXCEED 7 MILLION.

>> THE TERM, EXCUSE ME FOR INVADING THE BUSINESS SIDE AND MATH. I WOULD SAY IF THE NUMBER IS EXPECTED TO BE 9 MILLION, THAT'S WHAT THE NOT TO EXCEED NUMBER SHOULD BE. THEN THE BOARD WOULD APPROVE THE

CONTRACT. >> C. COMPTON: CAN I BUDGET

HANDLE THAT? >> I'M SORRY.

>> C. COMPTON: CAN OUR BUDGET HANDLE THAT?

>> YES. WE'VE BEEN PUTTING APPROXIMATELY $2.9 MILLION IN THE BUDGET EACH YEAR.

WE'RE APPROACHING THE POINT, WE MIGHT CREEP UP TO .2 OR 2.3.

BUT THOSE KIND OF INCREASES 'VE DONE SOME OTHER THINGS TO REDUCE THE COST IN THIS NEW CONTRACT ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.

$100,000. QUIETLY THAT OFFSETS UTURE INCREASES AND STUFF WE HAVE IN THIS AGREEMENT.

AND SO THAT'S WHY I THINK FOR THE MOST PART IT'S GOING TO BE EXPENSE NEUTRAL OVER THE NEXT THREE YEARS.

>> BY MERGING THE TWO, DOES THAT GIVE A BENEFIT OF THE EL CENTRO

CONTRACT? >> YES, WELL, EL CENTRO WAS THE MORE EXPENSIVE CONTRACT. BUT FEWER RIDERS.

BUT IN TOTAL DOLLARS, THE GOPASS IS THE BIGGER DOLLAR SPENDER THAN ANYBODY. NOW THAT -- IF YOU LOOKED AT THE RATES THEY LOOK LIKE A REAL SAVINGS FOR EL CENTRO BUT DISTRICT PAYS FOR THIS ANYWAY. WE DON'T CHARGE THIS OUT TO THE

COLLEGES. >> CHAIR D. FLORES: WE'LL COME BACK TO THE NOT TO EXCEED NUMBER IN A MOMENT.

WHAT TRUSTEE RITTER SAYS MIGHT HAVE AN IMPACT.

>> P. RITTER: I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT EASTFIELD.

>> CHAIR D. FLORES: TO WE NEED TO PUT NOT TO EXCEED 9 MILLION?

>> YES. >> C. COMPTON: SINCE THIS IS A RENEWAL OR WHATEVER, HAVE YOU HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT D.A.R.T. ABOUT THE RATES WE'RE PAYING? OR WE'RE LOCKED INTO THAT? NO NEGOTIATIONS, WE JUST GO WITH THAT? BASICALLY TRYING TO INCLUDE --

>> IT WAS AND THAT WAS PART OF THE NEGOTIATIONS ARE.

THEY HAVE THESE AGREEMENTS WITH SOME OTHER INSTITUTIONS OF HIGHER ED. OUR FIRST PILOT PROGRAM WAS A BIG DEVIATION FROM THAT. BUT THEY WERE ALSO HAD REVENUE COMING FROM OUR EL CENTRO CONTRACT WHICH WAS ON THE HIGH SIDE. NOW WE'RE MERGING TOGETHER WE GOT TO A POINT TO A FAIR RATE FOR D.A.R.T. AND THE DISTRICT.

>> CHAIR D. FLORES: WE'RE AGREED IT WOULD BE NOT TO EXCEED

9 MILLION? >> YES, MA'AM.

>> CHAIR D. FLORES: DOES THAT AFFECT THE CONTRACT?

>> NO. WHOMEVER MAKES THE MOTION HOULD

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INCLUDE THAT NOT TO EXCEED IN THE MOTION TO APPROVE AND OVER

THREE YEARS. >> CHAIR D. FLORES: YES, TRUSTEE

RITTER. >> P. RITTER: THE DECISION OF COMMUNITY OF MESQUITE IS DISAPPOINTING BUT NOT LIKELY TO CHANGE. YOU TALK ABOUT THE INVESTMENT, WE'RE COMMITTED TO DELIVERING STUDENTS TO DR. TEALER'S DOOR STEP, RIGHT? YOU INFORMATION THAT EASTFIELD ECC WE'LL BILLED AT $70 PER ELIGIBLE STUDENT PER SEMESTER.

CAN YOU PROVIDE BASIS TO THAT? >> THAT'S THE OLD RATE.

>> P. RITTER: OKAY. WHAT IS THE DEFINITION OF AN

ELIGIBLE STUDENT? >> AT LEAST HALF TIME.

EITHER CREDIT OR CONTINUING ED. AT LEAST A HALF-TIME STUDENT.

>> P. RITTER: IF I'M A STUDENT LIVING IN A D.A.R.T. MEMBERCITY AND ENROLL IN EASTFIELD AND HAVE THIS BENEFIT, AM I PAYING THE SAME AS A STUDENT WHO IS A RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF

MESQUITE? >> YES.

>> THAT IS TAKEN INTO THE DESIGN.

>> CHANCELLOR MAY: WHEN WE SAT DOWN WITH D.A.R.T., THE PRICES WERE BASED ON EL CENTRO OR OTHERS.

WE KNEW THERE WAS SOME LIGHT AREAS AND PROMOTED ALL STUDENTS [INDISCERNIBLE] CAVEATS. SO IN EFFECT THEY LOWERED IT FOR EL CENTRO AND OTHERS NOW TO ACCOMMODATE THE FACT WE DON'T HAVE AS HIGH AS RIDERSHIP OF THE OTHER LOCATIONS.

THAT DELAYED US A YEAR ON THE INITIAL DISCUSSION.

THEY WERE USED TO THINKING ABOUT IT AS EVERYONE BEING A HEAVY

USER OF THE PASS. >> WE DON'T HAVE ANY SOLUTIONS TO THESE YET, RUSTEE RITTER. BUT JUST BRIEFLY, A COUPLE OF THINGS WE'RE WORKING ON. WE'VE GOTTEN SOMEPLACE WITH OUR MOBILITY STUDENTS AND HAVING A WAY TO DOING THAT.

IT'S STILL A NIGHTMARE OF A PROCESS BUT WE'RE TAKING CARE OF THAT. WE DO HAVE A BUS TRANSPORTATION.

IT GOES D D DOWN THE LAPRODDA SE AND SO ON.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE TOLD D.A.R.T., WE'RE MAKING AN INVESTMENT IN YOU AND EXPECT RETURN ON INVESTMENT OVER TIME.

WE'RE LOOKING AT OTHER OPTIONS WITH D.A.R.T./UBER.

AND WHAT OTHER THINGS WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO.

SO WE'RE NOT STOPPING HERE. >> P. RITTER: THAT'S NOT THE ISSUE I'M RAISING. THE ISSUE IS THAT IF Y YOU ARE A STUDENT IN A D.A.R.T. MEMBER CITY YOU ARE SUBSIDIZING MASS TRANSIT. IF YOU ARE A STUDENT IN A NONMEMBER CITY, YOU ARE NOT. THIS MECHANISM WE'VE SET UP, I BELIEVE HAS OUR STUDENTS MEMBERS OF D.A.R.T.

MEMBER CITIES UNDERWRITING THE COST OF A MASS TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM AND THAT'S NOT RIGHT. AND I THINK ONE POSSIBLE FIX AND I'M CONVINCED THERE IS NOTHING TIM CAN'T DO IN I.T.

I REALLY AM. IF YOU REGISTER IS A STUDENT FROM A D.A.R.T. MEMBER CITY, SHOULDN'T YOU PAY MORE?

>> CHANCELLOR MAY: THE STUDENTS DON'T PAY ANYTHING FOR IT.

THIS IS ALL THIS REALLY INCLUDES OUR TAX DISTRICT, WHICH IS ALL OF OUR DALLAS COUNTY AND ALL THE STUDENTS ENROLLED ARE -- PART OF THE TAXING DISTRICT, IT'S THOSE DOLLARS THAT ARE USED TO HELP STUDENTS THROUGHOUT THE AREA. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE D.A.R.T. SERVICE AREA AND THE STUDENTS, THAT'S WHY WE'RE PUTTING IT IN HERE TO HELP WITH THAT PARTICULAR ISSUE.

NOW, WE HAVE HAD A MEETING SENSE THE FIRST OF THE YEAR WITH SOME OF THE ACTUALLY OF THE BOARD FROM D.A.R.T. ND THE -- ONE OF THE HIGH-LEVEL PEOPLE IN SEATTLE FROM UBER WHERE WE CAN REDUCE THE COST FOR STUDENTS TO GET TO THE FIRST STATION IF THEY LIVED IN MESQUITE, GRAND PRAIRIE OR DUNCANVILLE.

HOW WE GET THE FIRST MILE INTO IT.

>> P. RITTER: EASTFIELD OLLEGE, BUILD $70 --

>> CHANCELLOR MAY: ACTUALLY NOT. >> P. RITTER: WE'RE BEING BILLED FOR EVERY STUDENT WE PAY MORE FOR THAT STUDENT FROM EASTFIELD TO D.A.R.T. THAN FROM ANY OTHER THE OTHER SIX CAMPUSES?

I'M LOOKING AT SLIDE -- >> M. BRAVO: I THINK YOU ARE

CONFUSING EL CENTRO. >> P. RITTER: WE'RE PAYABLE $70 PER ELIGIBLE STUDENT PER --

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>> M. BRAVO: THAT'S EL CENTRO. >> P. RITTER: NOT EASTFIELD?

>> M. BRAVO: BECAUSE EL CENTRO IS NOT PART OF THE OF GOPASS.

>> CHANCELLOR MAY: THEY WILL BE THIS YEAR SO THEIR RATE WILL DROP AS A RESULT OF THAT. THAT'S WHAT WE PAY AS THE DISTRICT. THAT'S BEEN KIND OF THE GOAL.

HHOW DO WE COLLAPSE THESE TOGETHER SO REGARDLESS OF WHERE YOU LIVE YOU WOULD HAVE THE BENEFIT SINCE YOU ARE IN THE DALLAS COUNTY. EVEN IF YOU ARE NOT WITHIN THE

D.A.R.T. SERVICE AREA. >> P. RITTER: I APOLOGIZE, I GOT MY ACRONYMS MESSED UP ON THE CAMPUS.

WE'RE DOING US SERVICE TO EASTFIELD.

AND WE'RE PAYING FOR THAT? THAT --

>> YES, WE DO. >> CHANCELLOR MAY: WE DO.

>> WE TRIED TO NEGOTIATE THAT INTO THIS CONTRACT.

D.A.R.T. IS UNDER CERTAIN FEDERAL REGULATIONS THAT CAN'T BE CHANGED. AND I'M NOT GOING TO BELABOR THAT POINT . IN FACT, I WOULD RATHER HAVE A D.A.R.T. ATTORNEY EXPLAIN IT. IT'S A MINIMAL CHARGE.

BUT WE HAVE A SEPARATE AGREEMENT TO PROVIDE THE BUS SERVICE TO EASTFIELD. LONGER-TERM, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS HOW CAN WE DO THAT WITH PROVIDING OTHER TYPES OF THINGS

OR -- >> P. RITTER: WHAT DOES IT COST

TO DO THAT? >> 20,000 A YEAR.

>> P. RITTER: THAT'S IT? >> YES.

>> D. ZIMMERMANN: WITH INSURANCE?

>> INSURANCE? >> WE DON'T HAVE INSURANCE IMPACT. D.A.R.T. OPERATES THE BUSES.

WE PROVIDE -- >> D. ZIMMERMANN: WE'RE ON

D.A.R.T.'S POLICY. >>

>> CHANCELLOR MAY: THE REGS ON THAT HERE IN A PUBLIC MEETING, I

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WOULD RATHER WE HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.

>> CHAIR D. FLORES: IT'S A LEGAL ISSUE YOU ARE SAYING?

>> THAT'S RIGHT. >> CHAIR D. FLORES: ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, QUESTIONS, ET CETERA? AND JOHN, THE CFO ASSURED ME THIS IS GOING TO BE A BREEZE.

JUST GET UP THERE FOR TWO MINUTES.

I'M JOKING. HE DIDN'T TELL ME ANYTHING.

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>> MY PROBLEM

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