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[1. Certification of Notice Posted for the Meeting]

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>> THIS OPEN MEETING OF THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES IS AUTHORIZED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, 551.001 THROUGH 551.146.

MEETING 2 EDUCATION WORKFORCE COMMITTEE MEETING OF THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES FOR THE DALLAS COUNTY COMMUNITY THIS OPEN MEETING OF THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES IS AUTHORIZED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, 551.001 THROUGH 551.146.

EDUCATION WORKFORCE COMMITTEE MEETING OF THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES FOR THE DALLAS COUNTY COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICT AND RICHLAND COLLEGIATE HIGH SCHOOL.

[A. Becoming One College: Benefits and Challenges Presenter: Joe May]

>> I CERTIFY THAT A COPY OF THIS NOTICE WAS POSTED ON THE 2ND DAY OF AUGUST 2019, ALL AS REQUIRED BY THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 551.054.

>> DR. MAY IS GOING TO [INDISCERNIBLE]

>> ALL RIGHT, AS WAS I WASSED AT THE LAST MEETING, TO COME BACK TO THE BOARD WITH A DISCUSSION OF THE BENEFITS OR I THINK IT WAS SAID, THERE ARE PROS AND CONS OF THIS.

LET ME KIND OF TELL YOU WHAT'S GOING ON SINCE THAT DATE.

THE DAY AFTER OUR BOARD MEETING TOWARD THE END OF JUNE WE HAD ALREADY SCHEDULED A COUPLE OF DAYS WITH THE ENTIRE LEADERSHIP TEAM TO GET AWAY TO TALK ABOUT THE UPCOMING YEAR, LOOK AT OUR PLANNING.

THIS CREATED AN OPPORTUNE TIME TO HONE IN AND COME TOGETHER AROUND THE FUTURE OF THE DISTRICT AND IF WE WERE TO MOVE TOWARD ONE COLLEGE, WHAT WOULD THAT MEAN.

WE TALKED ABOUT THINGS WE WANTED TO HANG ONTO THAT WERE GOING TO HAPPEN IMPORTANT.

WE TALKED ABOUT THINGS THAT PERHAPS COULD BE BETTER WITH THIS.

AND WE ALSO COMMITTED THAT SHOULD THE BOARD GO IN THAT DIRECTION THAT WE WERE WILLING TO WORK TOGETHER IN A COLLABORATIVE WAY TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

AND I WANT TO PUT THAT IN CONTEXT BECAUSE THIS WASN'T SOMETHING A FEW FOLKS SAT DOWN AND THOUGHT THROUGH.

WE REALLY HAD DISCUSSIONS.

SINCE THEN ALSO THERE WERE QUESTIONS I DID OT KNOW THE ANSWER TO IN TERMS OF HOW WE WOULD PROCEED OR GO FORWARD.

WE DOING THE OPPORTUNITY, WE WENT TO ATLANTA AND MET WITH BILL WELAND, CEO OF COMMISSION OF COLLEGES AND HER VP'S, I HAD NO IDEA THERE WERE SO MANY.

THEY ARE DOING THIS WORK.

INCLUDING THE V.P.'S ASSIGNED TO ALL OF OUR CURRENT COLLEGES, EXCEPT ONE WAS NOT THERE THAT DAY.

AND SO THAT WAS A VERY HELPFUL CONVERSATION AS THEY WALK THROUGH AND EXPLAINED TO US THAT I THINK I MAY HAVE HAVE SAID THE WORD, MERGE, I GOT MY HAND SLAPPED.

THIS IS CONSIDERED A CONSOLIDATION REGARDLESS HOW WE THINK OF IT.

THEY SEE IT THAT WAY BECAUSE WE'RE IN ESSENCE WHAT PROBABLY AS THEY SAID, 99% OF THE TIME WHERE THIS IS NOT OCCURRING TO NECESSARILY SOLVE PROBLEMS FOR STUDENTS AS WE ARE HERE, IT IS DONE FOR FINANCIAL CONCERNS AND REASONS WHERE INSTITUTIONS ARE COMBINED IN SOME FASHION.

THIS WAS DIFFERENT.

AND IT WAS A VERY POSITIVE INFORMATION, PARTICULARLY BECAUSE THESE INDIVIDUAL KNEW OUR COLLEGES SO WELL.

THEY WERE IN DALLAS 10 DAYS AGO AND OUR FOLKS, AGAIN, UNDER DR. LONDON HAD TO CHANCE TO GO AND MEET AGAIN WITH THE PERSON ASSIGNED TO US FOR THIS.

AND HAVE DISCUSSIONS AND NOW, WE PUT TOGETHER A TEAM, A SIZABLE TEAM, THAT IS MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS PROCESS, SHOULD THE BOARD DO.

THE REASON WHY WANT TO EXPLAIN WHY E FELT THE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED IN CASE THE BOARD ACTED, IF YOU DON'T MOVE IN THIS DIRECTION, WE'LL STOP IT.

IT'S EASIER TO STOP SOMETHING WHEN YOU HAVE A SEPTEMBER 1, DEADLINE, THEN IT IS TO START SOMETHING AT A LATER DATE.

SO IT BECAME CLEAR THAT BASED ON THE TIMELINE WE WERE GIVEN BY SAX, THERE IS A SEPTEMBER 1 DEADLINE TO CONSIDER FOR DECEMBER.

WE'RE PLANNING TOWARD THAT WITH

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THAT IN MIND SHOULD HAD BOARD, BECAUSE T THE WAITING WOULD HAVE MADE THAT IMPOSSIBLE UNDER ANY SCENARIO FOR THE BOARD.

I WANTED TO LAY A CONTEXT.

AS WE WORK THROUGH THAT WE NOW KNOW A LOT ABOUT HAT IT IS WE HAVE TO DO.

WE BELIEVE WE CAN GET THIS DONE AND THIS TIMEFRAME.

AND SO I KIND OF WANTED TO SAY THAT SO YOU WOULD KNOW THIS BEFORE I START TALKING THROUGH.

THE OTHER PIECE OF IT, SO WHAT WOULD BE HOW HIS WOULD WORK, AS IT TURNS OUT, THERE ARE SOME THINGS GOING ON ALREADY.

FIVE OF OUR COLLEGES HAVE A REPORT THAT IS BEING TURNED IN AND WILL BE CONSIDERED BY SACKS AT THE DECEMBER MEETING.

ONE OF OUR COLLEGES IS SUBMITTING PAPERWORK TO BE BE GRANTED BACCALAUREATE GRANTING AUTHORITY AT THE DECEMBER MEETING. IN THE DISCUSSION WITH SACKS, HOW O WE TREAT ALL THESE THINGS BECAUSE WE CAN'T PUT ON HOLD WHAT THE COLLEGES HAVE GOING FORWARD AND WE WANT TO BE ALL ABLE TO OFFER BACCALAUREATE DEGREES AS SOON AS POSSIBLE IN A WAY THAT WHEN WE'RE COMPLETE ALL OF OUR CAMPUS CAN OFFER BACCALAUREATE DEGREES IN THE PROCESS.

I WANTED YOU TO KNOW THAT WE JUST DIDN'T KIND OF PICK OUT SOME THINGS.

NOW, LET'S SAY EVERYTHING GOES AS PLANNED IN DECEMBER.

THEN SACKS WILL SEND A VISITING TEAM TO THE COLLEGE AS THEY WERE REFER TO IT AT THAT POINT.

AND THEY WILL THEN DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THEY WILL THEN TAKE -- THEY HAVE TO BE HERE BEFORE APRIL 1 IN ORDER TO SUBMIT A REPORT TO BE ON THE JUNE COMMISSION MEETING.

THE COMMISSION ONLY MEETS TWICE A YEAR, JUNE AND DECEMBER.

YOU EITHER LINE SOMETHING UP FOR THE JUNE OR DECEMBER MEETING IN THIS CASE.

SO THAT WOULD BE THE PROCESS SHOULD THEY ACT.

NOW, SHOULD -- THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE WOULD NECESSARILY WAIT UNTIL JUNE TO START DOING SOME OF THE THINGS THAT NEED TO BE DONE BECAUSE IN FACT, WE NEED TO BE WELL ALONG THE WAY WHEN THE VISITING TEAM SHOWS UP TO MAKING THIS HAPPEN BECAUSE THEY ARE LOOKING AT US, NOT THROUGH THE REARVIEW MIRROR, THEY ARE LOOKING AT US THROUGH A LENS MOVING FORWARD.

AND THE EXPECTATIONS ARE DIFFERENT LOOKING FORWARD AS THEY -- AS OPPOSED TO HOW WE'VE BEEN IN THE PAST.

JUST KIND OF WANTED TO LAY THAT OUT FOR THE PROCESS.

ASSUMING ALL GOES WELL A COUPLE OF THINGS WOULD HAPPEN UNDER THIS SCENARIO.

AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE MOVING FORWARD, WOULD BE IN JUNE WE WOULD BE AUTHORIZED, WE WOULD THEN BE CONSOLIDATED INTO SINGLE INSTITUTION.

THAT HAS BACHELORS GRANTING AUTHORITY, ALL THE AT THE SAME TIME WOULD BE HOW THAT WOULD WORK IF EVERYTHING GOES WELL.

NOW, WE'RE ALSO GOING TO ALWAYS HAVE OUR RADAR UP BECAUSE WE WANT THIS TO GO WELL.

I DEALT WITH SOUTHERN ASSOCIATIONS OF COLLEGE AND SCHOOLS FOR A LONG, LONG TIME.

CREATING COLLEGES, CONSOLIDATING COLLEGES, WORKING IN THIS SPACE.

IF THERE IS SOMETHING THAT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE PROBLEMATIC, SOMETIMES YOU NEED TO SLOW DOWN A LITTLE BIT IN ORDER TO GO FAST IN THE PROCESS BECAUSE YOU HIT CERTAIN BUMPS LONG THE WAY AND IT'S BETTER TO SAY, TIME OUT, LET US SOLVE THE PROBLEM AND COME BACK.

WE'RE NOT SEEING THAT NOW.

BUT I WANTED YOU TO BE AWARE EVEN THOUGH THISHE CURRENT THINKING ON THE TIMELINE, THINGS COULD HAPPEN THAT WOULD OFFER THAT GOING FORWARD.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?

>> ASK A QUESTION REAL QUICK? YOU MENTIONED, AUTHORIZED FOR GRANT --

>> THEY ALL IT CHANGING THE LEVEL STATUS.

>> WE WOULD BEACON TRAINED BY COORDINATING BOARD AND LEGISLATURE TO THE SPECIFIC PROGRAMS WHICH THEY SPECIFY.

>> CHANCELLOR MAY: THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT ROLES OF THE COORDINATING BOARD.

ONE IS THE BACCALAUREATE GRANTING AUTHORITY.

THEY ARE THE ENTITY THAT ESSENTIALLY RECOGNIZE, WHILE THE LEGISLATURE GAVE US THE AUTHORITY, THE COORDINATING BOARD ALLOWS US TO ACTUALLY DO IT IF WE MEET THEIR CRITERIA AND EXPECTATIONS.

SIMPLY BEING ALLOWED IS NOT ENOUGH TO DO IT.

A PROCESS TO GO THROUGH.

WE'RE GOING THROUGH THAT NOW.

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I THINK ANY DAY WE SHOULD HEAR FROM THE COORDINATING BOARD.

THE COORDINATING BOARD ACTUALLY DOESN'T HAVE A SAY IN THE, AS IT RELATES TO THE ACCREDITORS.

THAT'S BETWEEN US AND THE ACCREDITORS.

I CALL DR. PARETS AT THE COMMISSION OF HIGHER EDUCATION.

WE TALKED THROUGH IT.

HE SAID WE NEED A LETTER FROM YOU.

THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT.

PART OF THE REASON IS THE COORDINATING BOARD ACTUALLY DOESN'T SEE COLLEGES WHEN THEY LOOK OUT ACROSS THE STATE.

THEY SEE DISTRICTS.

THAT'S WHY WHEN THE LEGISLATURE PASSED, THEY DIDN'T SAY A COLLEGE COULD OFFER THREE DEGREES, THEY SAID DISTRICTS COULD OFFER UP TO THREE DEGREES BECAUSE THAT'S NOT THEIR VIEW.

WE'RE NOT EVEN ALLOWED TO MENTION COLLEGES IN OFFICIAL PAPERWORK.

IT'S SUBMITTED AS THE DISTRICT, AS WE GO FORWARD WITH THAT BECAUSE THAT'S HOW THEY SEE IT.

NOW BECAUSE THEY SEE US THAT WAY, THAT ACTUALLY HELPS ON THE SACK'S APPLICATION BECAUSE WE HAVE TO SUBMIT THEM ROLLED UP TO THE STATE, WHICH IS WHAT WE HAVE TO DO TO SACKS AND OTHER THINGS.

THERE ARE THINGS IN PLACE BECAUSE THE WAY THE STATE DEALS WITH THIS AS OPPOSED TO THE WAY THE CREDITORS DEAL WITH THIS.

>> BROOKHAVEN FOR EXAMPLE IS IN DESIGNATED AS THE COLLEGE THAT WILL OFFER THE FOUR-YEAR EARLY CHILDHOOD DEGREE.

THAT DECISION WAS MADE WHY THEY WERE A SINGULARLY ACCREDITED UNDER SACKS ANY DISTRICT COULD OFFER FOUR-YEAR DEGREES AS FAR AS SACKS?

>> IT WOULD COVER THAT.

SO BECAUSE THE WAY THE LEGISLATURE WAS WRITTEN AND GRANTS DISTRICTS THE ABILITY TO OFFER 3 PROGRAMS RIGHT NOW THEORETICALLY WE COULD HAVE THREE COLLEGES ALL GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND DO THAT SEPARATELY, EACH ONE IMITED TO THE DEGREES FOR WHICH THEY WERE APPROVED BUT THERE WOULDN'T BE OVERLAP.

HERE WE CAN MANAGE THAT DIFFERENTLY BY LOCATION, SIZE, PROGRAMMATICICALLY AND OTHERWISE.

>> BY CONSOLIDATING IT MAKES IT EASIER FOR STUDENTS TO TAKE COURSES IN MULTIPLE LOCATIONS.

>> CHANCELLOR MAY: I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT HERE SOME OF THE BENEFITS AND CHALLENGES AS WE DO IT.

BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME OF BOTH IN THIS PROCESS.

AND I WOULD SAY THAT WHILE THIS HAS BEEN OUT THERE, I THINK A FEW THINGS HAVE KIND OF CHANGED THE EMPHASIS AT LEAST IN MY THINKING AND SOME OTHERS PERHAPS AS WE GO FORWARD.

I'M GOING TO WALK THROUGH THIS, JUST REAL QUICKLY WITH YOU.

WOULD YOU CHANGE? THIS OESN'T SEEM TO -- THAT'S JUST AS WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TOTO THE NEXT ONE.

I'M GOING TO TALK THROUGH EACH ONE A BIT.

CERTAINLY, AS WE LOOK AT IT, WE BELIEVE THIS CAN ABSOLUTELY INCREASE THE NUMBER OF AWARDS, MORE IMPORTANTLY DECREASE TIME TO DEGREE FOR STUDENT SAID.

THE REASON FOR THAT IS THE THIRD BULLET, WHICH IS A SACKS COC25% RULE, WE TOUCHED ON THIS A LITTLE BIT LAST TIME AROUND.

THE PROCESS IS GOING TO REQUIRE ALIGNMENT OF PROGRAMS TO SOME DEGREE.

THERE WILL PEE DIFFERENTS BE DS DETERMINED ON A PROGRAMMATIC BASIS.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THINGS LIKE, I'LL PICK, WE HAVE A VET TECH PROGRAM AT CEDAR VALLEY.

VET PREP STAYS AT CEDAR VALLEY LIKE IT IS NOW.

BUT NOW IF THERE ARE STUDENTS IN NORTH TAKEN IT, THEY ARE GOING TO RICHLAND OR BROOKHAVEN TO TAKING THOSE COURSES.

WHY WOULD THEY TRAVEL ALL THAT WAY, OR THEY MAY DO IT ONLINE.

SOME OF THE COURSES LINE OUT WELL, OTHERS DON'T.

THIS WILL ALLOW US BY LOCATION TO EXPAND THE NUMBER OF DEGREES BY TYING THAT TOGETHER, ACROSS THE ENTIRE DISTRICT.

TIME TO DEGREE THE SAME WAY.

IF WE'RE BETTER ALIGNED, WE'RE INTENTIONAL ABOUT BUILDING THAT OUT, NOT LOOKING AT OURSELF AS SEVEN COLLEGES BUT ONE IN THIS CASE WITH MULTIPLE CAMPUSES THAT WE CAN LEVERAGE.

THE SACK'S COC RULE IS A BIG ONE.

I REVISED A LITTLE OVER FIVE

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YEARS AGO.

ARRIVED.

THE FIRST THING I REACTED TO WITH THE GRADUATION RATES, WHERE ARE ALL THE GRADUATES.

DIDN'T MAKE SINCE A DISTRICT THIS SIZE WAS PRODUCING A RELATIVELY SMALL NUMBER OF GRADUATES.

WE'RE GETTING A LOT MORE STUDENTS WITH HE NUMBER OF HOURS TO GET A DEGREE.

THEY DIDN'T TAKE ENOUGH COURSES AT ANY ONE OF OUR SEVEN COLLEGES TODAY.

SO THAT 25% RULE FALLS INTO BECAUSE THEY ARE TRYING TO GET THE COURSES WE BELIEVE THIS IS A BENEFIT AND POSITIVE IMPACT.

ALLOWING US TO BETTER COORDINATE BETWEEN MULTIPLE LOCATIONS AT THE SAME TIME.

AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS.

AND THIS HAS BEEN ONE OF OUR GOALS TO CREATE A CONSISTENT STUDENT EXPERIENCE REGARDLESS OO WHERE YOU ARE WITHIN THE DCCCD.

THAT'S PART OF OUR PATHWAYS WORK AND WEBSITE AND OTHER THINGS AS WELL.

THERE WILL ALWAYS BE AREAS WHERE THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE JUST BECAUSE OF THE WAY WE'RE ORGANIZED AND STRUCTURED.

WE BELIEVE THIS WILL HELP US MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION.

IT WOULD ALLOW US TO MAXIMUM FACULTY RESOURCES IF WE NEEDED HELP AMONG THE CAMPUSES WE COULD DO THAT IN DIFFERENT WAYS.

I'M NOT GOING TO GET INTO SPECIFICS TODAY ON THE CENTRALIZED OPERATIONS OF THAT.

BUT IT WOULD ABSOLUTELY MAKE SENSE O DO CERTAIN AREAS WHERE WE'RE REPLICATED AROUND THE DISTRICT, NOT TALKING ABOUT THE INSTRUCTIONAL SIDE, THIS WOULD BE ON THE ADMINISTRATIVE SIDE AND OPERATIONAL SIDE OF THE HOUSE.

IT ALSO CREATED MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR SHARED RESOURCES, WITHIN THE COLLEGES.

SO THAT WE HAVE GOOD EXAMPLES HOW WE'RE COMING TOGETHER AS COLLEGES TO SOLVE COMMON PROBLEMS. THIS WILL MAKE IT EASIER.

AND THERE WILL BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR INCREASES IN EFFICIENCY.

THERE WOULDN'T BE THE NEED FOR SEVEN OF THINGS IN THE FUTURE ALLOWING US TO REDELOITTE PEOPLE IN OTHER RESOURCES.

DELOITTE.

AS DEPLOY.

A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT ARE HIGH VALUE WE DON'T WANT TO LOSE.

WE BELIEVE THAT OUR CAMPUSES HAVE A VERY SPECIFIC BRAND TODAY AS WE LOOK AT IT.

THAT HAS VALUE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.

IT HAS VALUE TO STUDENTS.

VALUE TO EMPLOYERS.

SO AT THE SAME TIME, WE WANT TO IMPROVE AND GET THE BENEFITS OF THESE THINGS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BY MAKING SURE WE UNDERSTAND THERE IS HIGH VALUE IN CAMPUS AND LOCATION.

WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT ELIMINATING THINGS LIKE ATHLETIC TEAMS, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT CHANGING SCHOOL COLORS.

WE WANT TO DO THAT BUT AT THE SAME TIME, STREAMLINE OUR PROCESSES AND SHARE THINGS THAT MAKE SENSE.

>> CAN I ASK A QUESTION?

>> CHANCELLOR MAY: YEP.

>> YOU MENTIONED YOU HAVE DONE A LOT OF THESE IN THE PAST, OBSERVED A LOT OF THEM.

HAS THERE BEEN AN INSTANCE WHERE A CONSOLIDATION FOR ACCREDITATION PURPOSES HAS CAUSED A CAMPUS TO USE -- A LOT OF THE STAKEHOLDERS, THE UNIQUE ATTRIBUTES IN EACH OF HE SEVEN CAMPUSES, I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE A CLUE OR CARE ABOUT ACCREDITATION.

AM I WRONG?

>> CHANCELLOR MAY: I THINK THE TWO ARE DIFFERENT THINGS.

I THINK THAT SAMENESS, AS ONE, FOR SAMENESS SAKE IS NOT NECESSARY IN THIS PROCESS.

WHAT WE CAN DO IS CREATE AND MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE IDENTITIES OF THE CAMPUS.

THESE ARE COMMUNITY-BASED IN MANY CASES, THEY HAVE HAVE GREAT RELATIONSHIPS WITH LOCAL CHAMBERS AND SCHOOLS.

WE DON'T WANT TO LOSE THAT ABILITY TO ENGAGE AT THE LOCAL LEVEL AND SERVE THEIR COMMUNITY.

>> I MEAN, THOSE RELATIONSHIPS ARE INHERENT UPON THE PEOPLE LEADING AND THAT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE.

>> CHANCELLOR MAY: THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.

AND THAT WAS THE QUESTION SACS HAD.

ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT CHANGING, NOT HAVING PRESENCE? NO, WE'LL STILL HAVE PRESENCE AND LEADERSHIP FOLKS THAT WILL MEET THE NEED.

ANOTHER CHALLENGE IS REALLY LOOKING AT THE LEADERSHIP ROLES.

BECAUSE IF WE THINK ABOUT UNDER THIS MODEL, IT REALLY DOES MEAN OUR PRESIDENTS WOULD NEED TO DO SOME THINGS DIFFERENTLY, THE VP'S, IT'S NOT A DRAMATIC CHANGE

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BUT IT WILL REQUIRE A DIFFERENT WAY OF LOOKING AT THE ROLE.

THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE RESPONSIBLE NOW THAT WILL BE HANDLED DIFFERENTLY IN THE FUTURE.

CHANGE IS ALWAYS SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO PAY PARTICULAR ATTENTION TO, BE CONCERNED ABOUT AND MAKE SURE WE'RE THINKING ABOUT THE INSTITUTIONS AND FACULTY AND THE STAFF AND PEOPLE IN THAT PROCESS.

>> CAN YOU GIVE EXAMPLES?

>> CHANCELLOR MAY: YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW AS WE ARE, CERTAINLY THE INDEPENDENCE AND THE AUTONOMY OF THE COLLEGES, THAT'S ACTUALLY REQUIRED TO SOME DEGREE UNDER SACS.

IF E MOVE TO A COLLABORATIVE, IT ACTUALLY REQUIRES THE OPPOSITE THAT WE DEMONSTRATE COLLABORATION AND WORK TOGETHER AND DEMONSTRATE WE'RE WORKING TOGETHER AND IN CERTAIN CASES ALIGNED ACROSS INSTITUTIONS.

WE TEND TO THINK ABOUT THE COLLEGE IN GEOGRAPHIC TERMS NOT PROGRAMMATIC TERM.

WE NEED TO THINK MORE ABOUT THAT AS WE WORK TOGETHER.

DOES THAT HELP?

>> TELL ME IF THIS IS RIGHT.

IF WE CONSOLIDATE ACCREDITATION, THEY ARE GOING TO BE A WHOLE LOT OF ADMINISTRATIVE AND OVERHEAD AND NON ACADEMIC AFFAIRS TO ALLOW PRESIDENTS AND MORE ON THE CORE MISSION AND RESPONSIBILITIES FOR STUDENTS.

IS THAT A OUTCOME OF THIS?

>> CHANCELLOR MAY: I WANT TO BE CLEAR ON THIS THOUGH.

I THINK THERE IS TRUTH IN WHAT YOU SAID.

I WANT TO BE CLEAR TOO, I DON'T HAVE A PLAN FOR THAT.

WE HAVEN'T WORKED THROUGH IT.

I HESITATE TO USE AN EXAMPLE THAT WE MAY DECIDE LATER ON WE DON'T -- THAT'S NOT IN THE BEST INTEREST.

IT'S BETTER TO KEEP IT THE WAY IT IS.

WE ANT TO BE THOUGHTFUL WHILE WE'RE DOING THIS BUT AT THE SAME TIME, UNDERSTANDING THERE ARE CERTAIN EXPECTATIONS SACS IS GOING TO HAVE THAT WE HAVE TO RESPOND TO.

>> CHAIR D. FLORES: I KIND OF SEE SOME OF THESE CHALLENGES AS OPPORTUNITIES.

FOR EXAMPLE, THE THIRD ONE SUPPORTING EMPLOYEES OF CHANGE PROCESS.

I THINK WE CAN HAVE A MORE DELIBERATE FOCUS ON EMPLOYEES UNDERSTANDING, THE WHAT, WHY, WHEN, WHERE, ET CETERA, AND HOW THIS WILL BRING ABOUT IMPROVEMENTS IN SEVERAL AREAS, BUT PRIMARILY IN SERVING STUDENTS.

>> CHANCELLOR MAY: WELL, YOU SAW IN THE PREVIOUS PRESENTATION THAT THERE IS A LOT OF CHANGE GOING ON ANYWAY.

AND THERE IS A LOT 06 THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO REALLY RAMP UP OUR PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT AND SUPPORT ON.

THIS WILL EXTEND THAT.

AND WE WILL NEED TO CONTINUE TO BE THOUGHTFUL ABOUT THAT.

I AM AWARE THAT WE NEED TO REALLY SUPPORT OUR PEOPLE THROUGH CHANGE AND I THINK THAT'S HARD SOMETIMES TO DO.

WE WANT TO BE SURE WE'RE DELIBERATING ON THAT.

I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S AN EASY THING BY ANY MEANS.

AND I THINK AS WE TALKED AMONG THE LEADERSHIP TEAM, I THINK WITH THE IDEA THAT WE WANT TO BE AN INTEGRATED NETWORK, WE WANT TO DO A BETTER JOB OF MEETING THE NEEDS OF STUDENTS, WE WANT TO SERVE R EMPLOYERS AND COMMUNITIES.

WHAT IF WE FAIL TO DO THAT? THEN DO WE END UP DAMAGING OUR BRAND, WHO WE ARE IN THE PROCESS.

AS WE GET INTO THIS, IT REALLY NEEDS TO BE WITH A THOUGHTFUL EVEN THOUGH WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO AT A RAPID SPEED, WE NEED TO BE THOUGHTFUL ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING AND UNDERSTANDING THIS IS NOT JUST ABOUT US.

THIS IS ABOUT HOW WE ENGAGE STUDENTS, OUR SCHOOLS, OUR COMMUNITIES, EMPLOYERS.

AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO MEET THEIR EXPECTATIONS THAT WILL BE CREATED IN THIS PROCESS.

>> BY REDUCING SOME OF THE REDUNDANCIES AS CHAIR FLORES SAYS, ALLOW THE LEADERSHIP TEAM TO FOCUS ON AREAS MORE IN THE CORE MISSION INSTEAD OF DEALING WITH SO MANY REDUNDANT ADMINISTRATIVE THINGS.

IT RECREATES THE ROLE OF THE PRESIDENT.

>> CHANCELLOR MAY: IF YOU THINK -- THEY ARE KIND OF AS I SEE IT, AND THIS IS PRETTY SIMPLISTIC AT THE TOP WITH THE BOARD AND CHANCELLOR AND THIS OFFICE, THIS IS A LOT ABOUT THE POLICIES, THE BRAND OF WHO WE

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ARE.

REALLY LOOKING DIRECTIONALLY, THE PLANNING APPARATUS THAT WE'RE DOING.

THE NEXT LEVEL DOWN CAN BE A MIXTURE OF EITHER THE -- SYSTEM OR HERE THE CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE OR OPERATIONALLY, BUT THIS IS THE NUTS AND BOLTS.

HANDLING FINANCIAL AID, THE DAY-TO-DAY WORK.

THERE IS NO QUESTION THE THIRD LEVEL AT THE CAMPUS LEVEL HELPING STUDENTS BE SUCCESSFUL IN EACH AND EVERY CLASSROOM, THE MAJORS, PROGRAMS, GETTING THE DEGREES.

THAT'S GOING TO BE REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE FOCUS MORE RIGHT NOW AT THE COLLEGE LEVEL ON THAT STUDENT EXPERIENCE, STUDENT SUCCESS AND GETTING THEM THROUGH.

>> AGAIN, RELATED TO THIS, IF W.

CERTAINLY, IMPACT ON PEOPLE.

WE KNOW THAT THERE IS NO INTENT HERE IN REDUCING FOLKS.

IT'S HOW DO WE LEVERAGE OUR PEOPLE EVEN WHEN WE COME TOGETHER? HOW DO WE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THEIR KNOWLEDGE, SKILLS AND ABILITY.

IF WE DO, WE WANT TO DO THAT WITH ATTRITION OVER TIME.

NOT PART OF THAT, WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION.

BUT IT WILL IMPACT PEOPLE.

AND SO WE NEED TO BE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT AND THE PROCESS.

ANOTHER CHALLENGE IS JUST THE SPEED OF SACS.

ON ONE HAND THEY ARE SLOW.

THEY MEET TWICE A YEAR.

ON THE OTHER HAND WE'RE SETTING WITH A DEADLINE ON TOP OF US.

WE DON'T WANT TO MAKE A MISTAKE IN THAT PROCESS.

THAT WOULD BE COSTLY TO US.

THERE HAVE BEEN RAISED QUESTION ON POTENTIAL LIMITATIONS ON FEDERAL GRANT APPLICATIONS.

MOST OF THESE WE -- NOT CONCERNED ABOUT BUT I DON'T HAVE AALL THE ANSWERS.

THE FEDERAL LEVEL THAT CONTEMPLATE THE MAIN CAMPUS, BRANCH CAMPUS SCENARIO.

SO THERE IS A WAY TO DO THAT.

SO THAT THE BRANCH CAMPUSES RETAIN THEIR ELIGIBILITY FOR GRANTS.

NOW, I AM IN THE PROCESS RIGHT NOW OF SCHEDULING SEVERAL MEETINGS IN D.C. THIS MONTH BECAUSE HAVE TO TALK WITH THE FOLKS, GENERALLY OVER HIGHER ED, THERE IS A SEPARATE OFFICER FOR ACCREDITATION, THERE IS A SEPARATE OFFICE AS IT RELATES TO FEDERAL FINANCIAL AID, SEPARATE OFFICE RELATED TO SOME OF THE GRANT PROGRAMS, THERE IS A SEPARATE ONE RELATED TO ADULT EDUCATION, WE ALSO HAVE VETERANS ADMINISTRATION ENGAGEMENT.

ALL THOSE WE HAVE TO TALK -- I DON'T SEE ANY OF THOSE AS A CHALLENGE RIGHT NOW.

BUT IT'S JUST SOMETHING WE HAVE TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION ON.

>> IF WE MOVE IN THIS DIRECTION, IS THERE GOING TO BE ANY NEGATIVE FINANCIAL IMPACT IN FEDERAL CONTRACTS, FEDERAL GRANTS? RIGHT NOW -- SUCCESSOR IN INTEREST.

EVERY INDIVIDUAL COLLEGE, GRANT AND FINANCIAL AID ARRANGEMENTS, IS THERE ANYTHING AT RISK?

>> CHANCELLOR MAY: AT THIS TIME, I DON'T SEE ANY.

WHAT WE -- JUST TALKING TO FOLKS BY PHONE, AND I WAS ON THE PHONE TODAY WITH THE FOLKS AT THE COUNCIL ON HIGHER EDUCATION ACCREDITATION CHATTING WITH THEM ABOUT THIS.

WE'VE VISITED ALREADY WITH SOME OF THE PEOPLE AT THE DEPARTMENT OF ED, BY PHONE.

THERE WILL BE SITE VISITS.

I WILL SAY I'M GOING TO BE CAUTIOUS WITH A DEFINITIVE ANSWER UNTIL WE WORK THROUGH.

A LOT OF THE FOLKS, AND I PUT SACS AND THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION REALLY IN HIS CATEGORY.

SOMETIMES IT DEPENDS ON WHO YOU TALK TO ON WHAT DAY, THE ANSWER THAT YOU GET ON SOME OF THESE THINGS TOO.

SO WE'LL DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE AND WORK THROUGH THAT.

AS I MENTION, THE WAY AT LEAST DEPARTMENT OF ED GRANTS WORK, OTHERS MAY DIFFERENTLY, YOU HAVE THIS MAIN CAMPUS, BRANCH CAMPUS DESIGNATION.

BRANCH CAMPS ELIGIBLE BASED ON THE CRITERIA OF THAT BRANCH AS AND THE MAIN CAMPUS IS ALSO ELIGIBLE UNDER THAT EVEN THOUGH THERE IS WHAT THEY CALL ONE O.P.E., OFFICE OF POST-SECONDARY EDUCATION, ID NUMBER.

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RIGHT NOW WE OPERATE UNDER SEVEN NUMBERS.

THIS WOULD CONSOLIDATE EFFECTIVELY INTO ONE IS THE BIG CHANGE AT THE DEPARTMENT.

RIGHT NOW WE RUN FINANCIAL AID THROUGH CEDAR VALLEY BECAUSE WE'VE CONSOLIDATED THAT, NOT ALL COLLEGES PROCESS, ONLY CEDAR VALLEY DOES THAT.

AND I CAN RECALL, DR. SEABROOKS HESITATING THE FIRST TIME THE PAPERWORK CAME THROUGH FOR HIS SIGNATURE KNOWING HE WAS SIGNING ON BEHALF OF ALL STUDENT AND COLLEGES IN THE DISTRICT.

WE'VE KIND OF ALREADY DONE THAT.

THAT SHOULD BE PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD WITH THE REASSIGNMENT TO A NEW ID NUMBER.

I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO EVERY QUESTION ALONG IN THIS AREA RIGHT NOW.

DIRECTIONALLY, I FEEL PRETTY GOOD ABOUT IT.

BUT I'M NOT COMFORTABLE TO TATE-

>> INDIVIDUAL CAMPUSES HAVE ARTICULATION AGREEMENTS WITH FOUR-YOUR INSTITUTIONS, LIKEWISE CAMPUS HAVE INDIVIDUAL RELATIONSHIPS IN I.S.D.'S.

UNIFIED DISTRICT IS GOING TO SUCCEED IN THOSE AS WELL?

>> WE WORK COLLABORATIVELY RIGHT NOW ON THAT.

WE DO IT BASICALLY AS ONE AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

I GET A PACKET OF ARTICULATION AGREEMENTS IN THAT WILL HAVE 9 SU9SIGNATURES, SEVEN OF THE COLLEGES, MINE AND WHOEVER THE OTHER INSTITUTION IS.

>> THE ARTICULATION BY AND LARGE ARE DISTRICT WIDE IN THE SENSE --

>> CHANCELLOR MAY: THEY ARE GENERALLY NEGOTIATED TOGETHER, YES.

THERE ARE FEW INDIVIDUAL PROGRAMMATIC ONES THAT EXIST.

WE HAVE A SPECIAL ONE WITH EL CENTRO AND I THINK RICHLAND IS ON THAT ONE AND TEXAS A&M AROUND ENGINEERING PROGRAM.

AS THINGS ARE WORKED OUT AND WE HAVE OTHER UNIQUE ELATIONSHIPS THAT EXIST.

NOTHING WOULD CHANGE IN THAT REGARD.

>> D. ZIMMERMANN: THE TIMING FOR THE FEDERAL GRANTS.

I KNOW SOMETIMES YOU GET YOUR CHANCE TO PUT IN FOR THEM.

WITH SEVEN COLLEGES, THERE IS ALWAYS A CHANCE TO PUT IN FOR ONE.

WITH ONE COLLEGE, WOULD WE HAVE TO SIT OUT BECAUSE WE'RE ONLY ONE?

>> I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE AN ISSUE.

AND WE DO SOME DISTRICTWIDE PROPOSALS AND GRANTS NOW.

SO THE -- I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY AREA THAT'S GOING TO BE PROBLEMATIC.

I'M NOT SAYING IT'S NOT BUT I'M NOT AWARE.

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>> AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW THE QUESTION HAS COME UP, WHAT HAPPENS TO THE CAMPUS? WHAT WE MEAN BY INSTITUTIONAL DESIGNATIONS, MINORITY SERVING, HISPANIC SERVING INSTITUTION AND SO FORTH.

THAT COULD BE AN ISSUE.

THAT'S ART OF WHAT I'LL HAVE TO FIND OUT FROM THE DEPARTMENT.

I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT.

WHEN WE MET, IN OUR PLANNING SESSION WITH THE LEADERSHIP, I WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU THAT THIS IS THE STATEMENT THAT WE COLLECTIVELY WROTE AND PULLED TOGETHER THAT DAY.

AND I THINK IT SAYS A LOT ABOUT OUR LEADERSHIP AND THE TEAM.

AS WE LOOKED AT DOING THINGS DIFFERENTLY, NOT TO BE DIFFERENT BUT FOR THE BENEFIT OF STUDENTS AND BETTER SERVE OUR COMMUNITY.

AND YOU SEE WHO ALL IS THERE.

AND I JUST WANT TO READ THIS.

DCCCD HAS A 50-YEAR HISTORY OF POSITIVELY IMPACTING THE LIVES OF STUDENTS AND COMMUNITIES.

BUT TIMES HAVE CHANGED AS HAVE STUDENTS AND COMMUNITIES.

WE MUST CHANGE AS AN ORGANIZATION AS WELL.

REALITY SHOWS OUR CURRENT STRUCTURE IS LEAVING STUDENTS AND EMPLOYERS BEHIND.

THE EXECUTIVE TEAM IS UNIFIED IN OUR COMMITMENT TO WORK COLLABORATIVELY TO MERGE THE STREAM OF OUR NETWORK, OR CONSOLIDATE INTO AN EVEN BETTER DCCCD.

SO WE CAN MEET THE DEMANDS OF OUR STUDENTS, COMMUNITIES AND EMPLOYERS WE SERVE.

TOGETHER WE'RE LAYING THE GROUND WORK FOR DCCCD FOR THE EXT 50 YEARS.

I JUST SHARE THAT BECAUSE I KNOW THERE ARE TIMES WHEN WE ARE COMPETITIVE WITH EACH OTHER.

WE WANT TO BE THE BEST FOR VERY GOOD REASONS.

BUT WE ALSO COME TOGETHER REALIZING THIS IS THE TIME TO COME TOGETHER FOR THE BETTERMENT OF ALL IN THE PROCESS.

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SO YOU'VE GOT THE NEXT STEPS.

AND I'VE HIT THOSE.

BUT SUBMIT THE PAPERWORK TO THE VARIOUS, THAT IS REQUIRED.

CONTINUE AND WORK ON WHAT WE NEED TO DO FROM WHETHER IT BE CENTRALIZED SOME THINGS OR CONSOLIDATE.

WHETHER IT BE TO STANDARDIZE TECHNOLOGY.

WHAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT TO INITIATE AND IMPLEMENT CERTAIN MAJOR FUNCTIONS.

I WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, NOT MADE A DECISION, HUMAN RESOURCES, RESEARCH, NFORMATION TECHNOLOGY, PURCHASING, SCHEDULING AND SO FORTH, THAT IS IN THERE.

AND IMPLEMENT THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME WE GOT TOGETHER IN THE EDUCATION PLAN THAT WE LAID OUT.

AND THEN OF COURSE, REVIEW AND AMEND THE CURRENT BUDGET ALLOCATION.

THIS COULD HAVE AN IMPACT.

I HAVE ASKED WE KNOW THERE IS GOING TO BE COSTS WITH JUST GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS OF DOING IT.

BUT WE BELIEVE IN THE LONG RUN, THIS WILL ALSO SAFE COST ON THAT SIDE.

SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE.

AND WE DON'T HAVE A RECOMMENDATION TODAY.

BUT SHOULD THE -- I LOOK FORWARD TO DISCUSSION ON THIS.

>> ANY QUESTIONS? ANYTHING YOU GOT TO SAY?

>> I WELCOME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SIGN ONTO THAT STATEMENT AS A BOARD MEMBER.

THAT WAS A VERY GOOD STATEMENT.

>> CHAIR D. FLORES: I THINK IT SAYS IT VERY SUCCINCTLY.

>> ALL RIGHT.

[A. Associate Degree in Cloud Computing for Brookhaven College, El Centro College, North Lake College and Richland College Resource: Mark Hays]

MOVING ON.

>> NO OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> MR. H HAZE.

>> MARK, OBVIOUSLY, THE NEED FOR ASSOCIATE DEGREE INDIVIDUALS WITH CLOUD COMMUTING IS VERY IMPORTANT TODAY IN NORTH TEXAS IN OUR ECONOMY.

THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM IS BASED ON AMAZON WEB SERVICES, WHICH IS A BIG EMPLOYER, WE HAVE WO APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAMS, THREE OTHER PROGRAMS WITH AMAZON WEB SERVICES.

IT WOULD BE PRIMARILY BUT THIS WOULD APPLY TO MICROSOFT, TO SALES FORCE.COM, VIRTUALLY ANY EMPLOYER LOOKING WITH A HIGH-DEMAND AREA TODAY.

>> CORRECT.

YOU SEE THERE, THE REPORT, THE NUMBER OF JOBS, OPENINGS BEING PROJECTED IN THE REGION AND THE ONES OPEN FOR THE LAST 12 MONTHS AND SALARIES, GENERALLY STARTING MID-60S TO MID-70S IS JOBS WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO BE PAYING.

THE CHANCELLOR MENTIONED, THIS IS AN AREA THAT IS DESPERATELY NEEDED, NOT ONLY HERE BUT AROUND THE COUNTRY.

AND SO WE'VE HAD FOUR COLLEGES THAT WOULD OFFER THE PROGRAM AND WE RECOMMEND IT BE APPROVED.

>> CHAIR D. FLORES: IN TERMS OF THE COLLEGES THAT SIGN ON, WHAT IS THE PROCESS YOU PUT THIS INFORMATION OUT SAYING THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY, WE WOULD LIKE -- WHAT IS THE PROCESS?

>> YES, MA'AM, IT'S A ALL OF INTEREST.

ALL SEVEN COLLEGES WERE PRESENTED WITH A CALL OF INTEREST AND FOR THE FOUR YOU SEE ARE THE ONES THAT RESPONDED.

>> CHAIR D. FLORES: THE REASON I ASKED IS BECAUSE I HAVE A CONCERN ON THE SOUTHERN SECTOR.

I.T. IS A HUGE AREA ND THEY ARE ALSO TYPICALLY HIGHER PAYING JOBS.

AND JUST LIKE WITH THE BLOOMBURG, WHAT DO YOU CALL THOSE? BLOOMBURG CERTIFICATIONS THAT ANSWERED THE CALL OF CENTER.

I THINK YOU DID A MODIFICATION AND THERE IS A ONE COLLEGE ON THE BLOOMBURG.

NOW WE HAVE THIS OTHER BIG PROGRAM COMING ON THAT'S GOING TO PREPARE THOSE TAKING THESE COURSES FOR HIGHER PAYING JOBS.

YET AGAIN, WE DON'T HAVE A SOUTHERN SECTOR UNLESS YOU WANT TO CONSIDER EL CENTRO THE SOUTHERN SECTOR, WE DON'T HAVE A SOUTHERN SECTOR COLLEGE THAT RESPONDED TO THAT CALL OF INTEREST.

THAT'S A HUGE CONCERN.

I KNOW MOUNTAIN VIEW IS GOING THROUGH A LEADERSHIP TRANSITION.

BUT I WOULD HOPE THAT THESE OTHER SECTOR COLLEGES WOULD HAVE A SENSITIVITY TO THIS.

>> AND THERE IS NOTHING TO PRECLUDE US ADDING AT ALL.

>> EXACTLY.

>> CHANCELLOR MAY: THERE IS NO OBJECTION.

WE HAVE A GROUP READY.

WE WANT TO GET IT APPROVED BY THE COORDINATING BOARD SO WE CAN GET STARTED.

AND FRANKLY, IF WE GO FORWARD WITH WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT WILL PROVIDE AN PPORTUNITY

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FOR ALL LOCATIONS IN THE FUTURE.

>> YOU ARE CORRECT.

IT'S NEEDED AT MULTIPLE LOCATIONS AND ERTAINLY IN THE SOUTHERN SECTOR OF THE COUNTIES, THERE IS DEFINITELY A NEED THERE AS WELL.

YEAH, WE CAN WORK ON THAT.

>> CHANCELLOR MAY: I WILL SAY FACULTY IS AN ISSUE IN SOME OF THESE AREAS HAVING THE BACKGROUND AND QUALIFICATIONS FOR THIS CERTIFICATION.

SO THERE MAY BE ADDITIONAL WORK WE HAVE TO DO.

>> CHAIR D. FLORES: WELL, AND I COMMEND YOU FOR COMING UP WITH THESE NEW PROGRAMS THAT ARE RESPONSIVE TO THE NEW JOBS THAT ARE OUT THERE.

>> I GIVE CREDIT TO CHANCELLOR JOYCE WILLIAMS FOR SPEARHEADING THIS EFFORT.

HER WORK ALONG WITH THE COLLEGES IS MAKING THIS A REALITY.

I COULDN'T THINK OF ANY OTHER AREA WHERE THIS IS NEEDED, THE CLOUD COMMUTING DEGREE, THAN ANY OTHER THING WE CAN DO RIGHT NOW.

>> CHANCELLOR MAY: TRUSTEE COMPTON.

>> C. COMPTON: I WOULD ADD MY VOICE TO TRUST FLORES CONCERNS.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY.

EVERYTHING THAT I'VE SEEN SO FAR IN THE SOUTHERN SECTOR, IT SPEAKS TO KIND OF LABOR SKILLS TRAINISH AND SO FORTH.

WHAT I WOULD HATE TO SEE HAPPEN IS THE SOUTHERN SECTOR GETS LABELED FOR ONLY CERTAIN TYPES OF CAREERS OR FUNCTIONS OR CAPABILITIES THEIR STUDENTS HAVE.

I DON'T WANT THE SOUTHERN SECTOR TO BE LABELED IN ANY WAY AND ANY OPPORTUNITIES WE OFFER, IT NEEDS TO BE OFFERED IN ALL SECTORS.

THAT'S MY CONCERN.

I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT THE PROCESS.

>> YES, MA'AM, IT'S A LEGITIMATE CONCERN.

I GUESS THE TIGHT ROPE WE WALK IS SOME OF THE LABOR JOBS PAY MUCH MORE.

>> C. COMPTON: I UNDERSTAND SOME OF THOSE DIFFERENT INDUSTRIES THEY PAY A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY.

>> IT'S A PERCEPTION ISSUE, WE NEED TO DO EDUCATING IN THE SOUTHERN SECTOR WITH THE POPULATION.

I HEAR THIS ALL THE TIME.

WHILE YOU ARE DUMPING THE DIRTY JOBS ON US THAT DON'T PAY ANYTHING.

AND THAT'S NOT THE CASE AT ALL.

WE WANT THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE SPREAD OUT OVER THE ENTIRE REGION.

AND THIS IS CERTAINLY ONE THAT CERTAINLY COULD BE.

BUT ALSO, I TELL PEOPLE AS WELL AND USE THE CHANCELLOR'S PIPEFITTER STORY AS WELL WITH THOSE INDIVIDUALS CAN MAKE.

THE CHANCELLOR --

>> CHANCELLOR MAY: BOB FERGUSON.

>> NO PIPEFITTER BUT LOOK AT WHAT THEY MAKE.

>> C. COMPTON:

>> EXACTLY.

>>

>> PERCEPTION ISSUE.

>> I THINK WE NEED TO ADD A SOUTHERN SECTION COLLEGE TO THIS INITIAL LIST BECAUSE AGAIN, MY TWO PEERS HAVE SAID, IT'S A PERCEPTION ISSUE.

I THINK IT GOES A LONG WAY TO BE SURE ON THE INITIAL OUTLAY OF A PROGRAM LIKE THIS WE HAVE AN INCLUSIVE --

>> WE DO PULL LABOR MARKET DATA.

THEY ARE CONCENTRATED IN THE NORTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY.

BUT THE OTHER SIDE TO THAT ARGUMENT IS THAT YOU ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY JOBS UNLESS YOU GET THE LABOR FORCE TRAINED.

THEN THE LABOR ECONOMICS WILL DICTATE IT MOVES TO WHERE THE WORKERS ARE.

>> VICE CHAIR W. JAMESON: WE COULDN'T AGREE MORE WE HAVE TO PROVIDE OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL.

I THINK AS WE GO FORWARD, IT'S MY BELIEF, EVEN ON NEW STRUCTURES THAT WE CAN DESIGN OURSELVES TO HELP WITH THAT EVEN MORE.

>> CHAIR D. FLORES: HOPEFULLY WE WON'T SEE THIS REPEATED WHERE THERE'S BEEN A CALL OF INTEREST AND WE DON'T HAVE ONE OF THE SOUTHERN SECTOR THAT RESPONDED.

>> WE'LL GET THIS DONE.

THIS IS AN AREA, FRANKLY ALL SEVEN COLLEGES COULD BE INVOLVED BECAUSE THE DEMAND.

>> VICE CHAIR W. JAMESON: AND PROBABLY WILL BE.

>> D. ZIMMERMANN: I HAVE A QUESTION.

THIS DEGREE, THE ASSOCIATES WILL BASICALLY CONSIDER SECURITY AFTER THE AMAZON WEB SERVICES AND CAPITAL ONE, I THINK THAT TELL US ALL OF A SUDDEN MAYBE LISTING SOME OF WHAT WOULD BE IN THE ASSOCIATE'S DEGREE SECURITY, I THINK AT THIS POINT.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

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SOVEREIGN SECURITY.

WE'VE HAD MEETINGS WITH THE -- AND THERE WILL BE A REPORT TO THE BOARD IN THE COMING MONTHS.

MEETINGS WITH INTERNATIONAL CYBERSECURITY.

MINORITY CYBERSECURITY.

THEY HAVE TAKEN A KEEN INTEREST IN THE SECURITY.

THEY WANT TO WRITE THE CURRICULUM.

IT IS THAT CRITICAL FOR NOW.

WE'RE NOT READY TO BRING THE WORK YET TO THE BOARD BUT WE WILL.

THEY ARE MEETING WITH THE CHANCELLOR HERE IN ABOUT A MONTH WITH THAT GROUP.

THEY ARE COMING UP WITH OUTSTANDING RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE WAY THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE CYBERSECURITY THOUGHT TAUGHT AT THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE.

>> D. ZIMMERMANN: WITH AMAZON BEING THE ONE THAT GOT IT, THAT TO ME JUST -- YEAH.

>> WE HAVE A LOT OF AMAZON EMPLOYEES IN OUR NORTH TEXAS.

IT'S A BIG BASE.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> D. ZIMMERMANN: YEAH.

>> THAT'S ALL.

THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> CHANCELLOR MAY: ANY FURTHER

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.