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>> THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS FOR THE FINANCE COMMITTEE, THE COMMITTEE IS

[1. Certification of Notice Posted for the Meeting]

ADJOURNED.

>> THIS THIS OPEN MEETING OF THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES IS AUTHORIZED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, 551.001 THROUGH 551.146.

VERIFICATION OF NOTICE OF MEETING AND AGENDA ARE ON FILE IN THE OFFICE OF THE CHANCELLOR.

PER TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 551.1282, THIS MEETING IS BEING BROADCAST OVER THE INTERNET IN THE MANNER PRESCRIBED BY TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, 551.128.

CHANCELLOR, WILL YOU CERTIFY.

>> CHANCELLOR MAY: I CERTIFY NOTICE WAS POSTED ACCORDING TO

[A. Industry Update - IT Cluster Presenters: Justin Lonon, Mark Hays, Ben Magill]

TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 5 551.054.

>> M. BRAVO: WE'LL START WITH A PRESENTATION ON INDUSTRY ON THE I.T. CLUSTER BY PRESENTERS: JUSTIN LONON, TRICIA HORATIO, MIKE WALKER, SHAUN GILLIGAN.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON.

THANK YOU FOR AN OPPORTUNITY TO VISIT WITH YOU ON A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT ITEMS. IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE WE HAVE DONE A SECTOR UPDATE.

AND LOOKED AT A PARTICULAR INDUSTRY.

AND LOOKED AT THE TRENDS AND WHAT IS GOING ON WITHIN THAT.

AND THE FINANCE COMMITTEE YOU TALKED A LITTLE BIT I.T. AND THINGS GOING N.

THE PRESENTATION WILL BE LED BY MARK HAYS.

SO WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY.

AND WANT TO SAY THAT APPRECIATE A LOT OF ASSISTANCE FROM BEN AND HIS STAFF AS WELL AS TAM MARSHALL.

SOME OF THE STUFF GETS, THE JOB TITLES, GO TO HIM AND SAY PLEASE DESCRIBE IT TO ME.

AND HE CAN EXPLAIN SOME OF THIS STUFF BETTER.

HE'S HERE TO STEP IF WE NEED THAT.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO STRESS IS THAT IN THE PAST SHOWN A LOT OF THE QUANTITATIVE APPROACH BUT WE WANT TO INCLUDE A QUALITATIVE TYPE OF INFORMATION IN THESE PRESENTATIONS.

THE I.T. INDUSTRY IN PARTICULAR.

THIS IS AN INDUSTRY OUT OF ALL THE INDUSTRY SECTORS OUT THERE THAT HAS THIS CHURN WITH CHANGING OF SKILLS AND JOB TITLES AND TOOLS THAT ARE USED IN THIS INDUSTRY MORE THAN ANY OTHER.

AND THAT POSES A PROBLEM WHEN IT COMES TO TRAINING STUDENTS IN THIS PARTICULAR SECTOR.

BECAUSE THEY CAN GET INTO ONE AREA AND IT MAY BE HOT IN ONE SEGMENT OF THE INDUSTRY BUT OTHER -- WE GET REQUESTS ALL THE TIME FOR TRAINING IN CERTAIN AREAS THAT YOU THINK, WELL THAT'S OUTDATED, WE HAD A REQUEST FOR I.B.M. MAINFRAME.

THERE IS STILL A LOT OF THEM OUT THERE.

AND THEY WANT THEM TRAINED IN THOSE TECHNOLOGIES.

THAT AS WELL AS STAYING ON THE LEADING EDGE OF THE HOT-FLAVOR-OF THE MONTH IS CRITICAL.

OUT OF ALL THE SECTORS, THIS ONE AND FINANCE PROBABLY THE HIGHEST PAID SECTORS OF ANY OF THE INDUSTRY SECTORS IF YOU HAVE THE RIGHT CREDENTIALS.

AND AS I MENTIONED, LOT OF THESE QUALITATIVE, IT'S A DIFFICULT PROCESS TO NAVIGATE THESE OPTIONS.

STUDENTS A LOT OF TIMES DON'T KNOW IF WHAT THEY ARE TAKING IS RELEVANT.

THAT CAN GET THEM A JOB WHEN THEY GET OUT.

PART OF IT, IKE I SAY IS DUE TO THE FACT YOU SEE THE INDUSTRY PROGRESSING CONSTANTLY MOVING HERE AND THERE AND DO DIFFERENT THINGS.

THE EXPONENTIAL GROWTHS IN AREAS LIKE ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE, AUGMENTED.

IF YOU WEREN'T DEPRESSED, TURNED ON 60 MINUTES AND WATCHED THE SEGMENT OF RANSOM WEAR, GIVES YOU AN EXAMPLE OF THE THINGS WE'RE DEALING WITH.

GO BACK AND WATCH THAT.

IT'S EYE OPENING, HE THINGS WE'RE DEALING WITH IN THIS INDUSTRY.

INDUSTRY TRENDS WE SEE CERTAIN THINGS THAT POP FOR US.

OF COURSE, THE CLOUD COMPUTING, CYBERSECURITY AREA IS CRITICAL, THE IRTUALIZATION INTERNET OF THINGS.

IF YOU READ IN THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS IF YOU HAVE ALEXA IN YOUR HOUSE, BASICALLY IT'S

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RECORDING EVERYTHING THAT IS GOING ON.

AMAZON ADMITS THEY HAVE STAFF HIRED THAT GO THROUGH WHAT IS COMING THROUGH ON ALEXA AND THEY RECORD THIS BASICALLY TO MAKE ALEXA BETTER.

BUT THERE IS A LOT OF PRIVACY CONCERNS.

THAT'S WHAT THEY SAY.

>> CHAIR D. FLORES: THAT'S WHAT THEY SAY.

>> THINGS LIKE YOUR THERMOSTATS, INTERNET OF THINGS CONNECTED.

THE FACT THAT NEFARIOUS INDIVIDUALS CAN GAIN CONTROL OF THESE DEVICES SHOULD BE SCARY FOR ALL OF US.

>> CHAIR D. FLORES: I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE LAST BULLET WHERE WE OFFER AN EXTENSIVE NUMBER OF PROGRAMS WE'RE NOT ADAPTING QUICKLY ENOUGH.

WHAT DOES QUICKLY ENOUGH MEAN?

>> WHATEVER IS IN THE MARKET AT THE TIME, WHAT IS ENTERING THE MARKET, HOW CAN WE BE ON THE FRONT END OF THAT.

HOW CAN WE BE PROACTIVE INSTEAD OF REACTIVE.

IT REQUIRES VERY CLOSE RELATIONSHIPS AND CONSULTATION WITH NDUSTRY.

THAT'S ONE OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS LATER ON IS THE FACT WE HAVE TO UP OUR GAME IN THAT AREA TO REALLY PLAY MORE CLOSELY WITH INDUSTRY IN THIS TO FIND OUT, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU MAY HAVE A LARGE COMPANY ADOPTING ONE PARTICULAR SOFTWARE.

BUT ANOTHER LARGE COMPANY ACROSS TOWN MAY BE USING THE OLDER SOFTWARE AND HAVE NO PLANS TO ADOPT THE NEW.

IT IS CRITICAL, THIS HAS TO BE VERY FOCUSED WHEN TRAINING PEOPLE A LOT OF TIMES FOR A SPECIFIC COMPANY.

AND WE'RE SEEING MORE AND MORE OF THAT.

FOR A LARGE I.T. COMPANY, ARE COMING TO US AND SAYING WE WANT PEOPLE TRAINED IN THESE PARTICULAR SOFTWARE PROGRAMS OR OUR OWN PRIORITARY PROGRAMS. IT'S SPECIFIC TO THAT COMPANY.

>> DOESN'T THAT SEEM LIKE A MORE PRACTICAL APPROACH THAN TRYING TO STAY UP ON EVERY LATEST THING THAT HAPPENS.

TO TAKE AN ACTUAL RUE SITUATION AND TRAIN PEOPLE WITHIN THAT BECAUSE YOU ARE RIGHT.

THERE IS I.B.M.360 AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU CAN BE STATE OF THE ART IN YOUR TRAINING WHEN THE ART IS DATED.

>> IT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.

I THINK WE'RE SEEING MORE AND MORE OF THAT TREND.

IF YOU TRY TO PLAY CATCH UP, YOU WILL NEVER CATCH UP.

IT'S MORE F A TARGETED APPROACH.

IT'S THE OPPOSITE.

THERE ARE SOME SOFTWARE LANGUAGES THAT ARE A FOUNDATION FOR A LOT OF OTHER THINGS THAT OUR STUDENTS SHOULD BE LEARNING.

COMPANIES ARE VERY SPECIFIC.

ONE OF THE THINGS I NOTICED IS THEY ARE SPECIFIC ON WHAT THEY WANT INDIVIDUAL TODAY LEARN.

YEAH, THE FOUNDATION STUFF IS GOOD AND COOL BUT WE WANT THEM TO KNOW THIS LANGUAGE OR WEREPRIETARY PROGRAM WE HAVE.

>> CHAIR D. FLORES: WITH THAT BEING SAID, WOULD AN APPROACH, BE THE COLLEGES HANDLE THE FOUNDATIONAL COURSES.

OUT OF YOUR SHOP I GUESS IS WORKFORCE.

YOU HANDLE THE STATE OF THE ART SO YOU HAVE LIKE A SWAT TEAM THAT LEARNS IT QUICK AND GOES AND TRAINS?

>> I THINK THAT IS ONE OPTION, TRUSTEE FLORES, THIS HAS TO COME FROM INDUSTRY FEEDBACK.

WE RECOMMEND A DISTRICTWIDE I.T.

ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

GET IT AWAY FROM EVEN DIFFERENT ADVISORY COMMITTEES AND USE ONE BIG DISTRICT ADVISORY COMMITTEE WITH A VARIETY OF HUGE I.T.

COMPANIES ON THERE AS WELL S SMALLER THAT SAY TELL US EXACTLY WHAT YOU NEED.

AND GEARING OUR APPROACH THAT WAY.

WE HAVE I.T. ROGRAMS BY THE BUSHELFUL HERE.

BUT ARE THEY RELEVANT? AND ARE THEY OUTDATED? BUT WE NEED A FEW SINGLE SUPER COMMITTEE, IF YOU WOULD, DISTRICTWIDE I.T. ADVISORY COMMITTEE THAT CAN SAY THIS IS WHAT WE NEED TO HAVE.

>> CHAIR D. FLORES: IN TERMS OF COLLEGE PROCESSES FOR CURRICULUM AND PROGRAMS, ET CETERA, THEY CAN'T NECESSARILY TURN ON A DIME.

OKAY.

THERE ARE CERTAIN PROCESSES THEY HAVE TO FOLLOW, CORRECT?

>> IN THE COLLEGES WOULD BE THE FIRST TO TELL YOU THE FACT, HEY WE'RE LOSING AN I.T. PROGRAM, WE WANT AN ASSOCIATE PROGRAM.

COMPANIES LAUGH AT YOU WHEN YOU SAY IF YOU WANT THIS AS A CREDIT PROGRAM, THAT WILL TAKE TWO YEARS.

THAT IS LUDICROUS.

>> CHAIR D. FLORES: WE NEED A BOTH END APPROACH.

>> I THINK SO.

AND YOU WILL SEE SOME OF THE

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THINGS WE'RE PROPOSING HERE.

THE FIRST IS TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IT IS WE HAVE AND WHAT IT IS INDUSTRY WANTS.

WHAT DO THEY NEED? THE THING, AND I NEVER THOUGHT OF IT THIS WAY, MAYBE EVEN MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE SOFTWARE ITSELF IS THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE ADAPTABLE PEOPLE.

CAN PEOPLE LEARN THE STUFF? I BECAUSE YOU CAN COME IN TODAY AND IF YOUR JOB DEPENDS ON KNOWING THIS PARTICULAR SOFTWARE LANGUAGE, GUESS WHAT, WE'RE SWITCHING, YOU NO LONGER HAVE A JOB.

HOW ADAPTABLE ARE YOU TO LEARNING NEW SKILLS.

IN THIS INDUSTRY IN PARTICULAR IT IS CRITICAL.

>> CHAIR D. FLORES: THANK YOU.

>> D. ZIMMERMANN: THAT'S WHY THE WORD, "COMMITTEE" SCARES ME.

YOU GET EVERYBODY IN A ROOM AND GET THIS AND THOSE TO AGREE AND THOSE TO FIGURE IT OUT.

SO OKAY FINE.

YOU ARE MOVING ONE THOUSAND PEOPLE IN ONE DIRECTION.

AND HERDS MOVE SLOWLY.

>> YOU LOOK FOR TRENDS, TRUSTEE ZIMMERMANN.

IF I HAVE 10, 15, 20 MAJOR EMPLOYERS IN THE ROOM AND YOU START TO HEAR COMMONALITY COMING FROM THEM, THAT OUGHT TO BE A CLUE THAT THIS MAYBE A DIRECTION WE SHOULD BE HEADING.

>> D. ZIMMERMANN: IS IT POSSIBLE FOR US TO LOOK AT, NOT SO MUCH AS US PUTTING OUT CLASSES FOR STUDENT SAID O ATTEND AS COMPANIES WE WOULD SUPPORT? -- STUDENTS --

>> ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE CORPORATE TRAINING, WHEN IS INCUMBENT WORKERS OR GOING TO POTENTIAL STUDENTS AND SAYING, HERE IS XYZ COMPANY THEY NEED TRAINING IN THESE AREAS.

AND THEY WANT TO LOOK AT YOU AND GIVE YOUR A INTERVIEW.

>> D. ZIMMERMANN: IF YOUR BACKGROUND LOOKS AS IF YOU WOULD FIT WITH THIS JOB PROGRAM THAT MAY-- IF YOU WOULD LIKE AN INTERVIEW.

BECAUSE THAT TO ME SEEMS IF YOU WERE TO SUPPORT THE INDUSTRY FOR COMPUTER, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, CULINARY, AND THERE IS A LOT OF THINGS THAT CAN ONLY CUT A CARROT SO MANY WAYS.

WE'LL CALL T THAT.

IN COMPUTING, WHAT WE HAVE SEEN, IN HIGH SCHOOL I WAS USING A SLIDE RULE.

AND WE NOW HAVE SEEN FROM THE LITTLE T.I. PROGRAMMABLES THAT I DID, ASSETTE TAPES.

AND AS IT WORKS AND -- I'M NOT THAT OLD BUT I HAVE SEEN IT GO FROM SOMETHING THAT WAS A BOX THAT NEEDED WHEELS TO SOMETHING THAT EVERYBODY CARRIES ONE.

IT'S THERE IN YOUR HAND.

IT'S GOT MORE CALCULATING POWER THAN WHAT WE SENT THE GUYS TO HAD MOON WITH.

IF WE'RE LOOKING AT SUPPORTING THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE THE JOBS, INSTEAD OF US TRYING TO GUESS WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO WANT OR NEED, TO ME, I DON'T KNOW.

IT SEEMS LIKE MORE SUPPORT.

BECAUSE IT IS SUCH A FAST-MOVING ANIMAL.

>> IT IS.

>> TRUSTEE ZIMMERMANN.

GOOD POINT.

IN THE NEXT MONTH OR SO YOU WILL HEAR MORE ABOUT THE INSTITUTE.

BUT A DEDICATED EFFORT ON THE CORPORATE IDE IN THE WAYS WE CAN DO JUST THAT.

>> JOBS, WE TALK ABOUT, AGAIN, THIS SKILL CENTERED EDUCATION.

HOW CAN WE TRAIN PEOPLE TO BE ADAPTABLE TO LEARN NEW SKILLS, TO LEARN [INDISCERNIBLE] THAT I BELIEVE IS THE NICHE WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT OUR COLLEGES.

MOST JOB OPENINGS WE SEE REMAINS VERY RECOGNIZABLE.

THERE IS THE OLD SAYING EVERY BUSINESS IS AN I.T. BUSINESS IN SOME FORM OR FASHION IS TRUE TO A BIG EXTENT.

HERE ARE THE BIG PLAYERS IN THE REGION.

>> THE INDUSTRY SIDE.

IN A MEETING WITH EARNSTON YOUNG, THEY AREON BOARDING THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE A DAY WITH BOTS.

YOU START DISPLAYING CERTAIN WORKERS DUE TO TECHNOLOGY DISRUPTION, YOU HEAR OUR FRIENDS AT THE FEDERAL RESERVE TALK ABOUT THAT.

WE'RE IN A CATCH 22, AND WE'VE TO HELP PEOPLE IN THOSE JOBS CURRENTLY AND BE PLANNING FOR THIS IS FUTURE SCENARIOS AS WELL.

>> WE SEE SOME OF THESE THE AVERAGE SALARIES.

YOU WILL SEE THINGS LIKE PROJECT MANAGEMENTS.

WE HAVE PROJECT MANAGEMENT CERTIFICATIONS, YOU WON'T HAVE ANYONE START KNOCKING DOWN 78

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GRAND A YEAR.

THESE ARE AVERAGE SALARIES WITH YEARS OF EXPERIENCE BEHIND THEM.

SOME ARE NOT NECESSARILY SOFTWARE RELATED.

YOU HAVE SOME REPAIR THINGS, CUSTOMER SERVICE TYPE OF THINGS THAT WE COULD FIT IN VERY NICELY IN SOME OF THESE AREAS.

IF WE LOOK AT THE EMERGING TRENDS, THESE LANGUAGES ARE ONES YOU HAVE PROBABLY HEARD OF.

THAT IS TODAY, WHAT HAPPENS TOMORROW.

AGAIN, EVERYWHERE I GO, PYTHON IS THE FLAVO FLAVOR OF THE MONT.

BUT THEN THE ATURE OF THIS BUSINESS IS HERE TODAY GONE TOMORROW.

HERE YOU CAN SEE WHAT WE'RE TALKING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT.

WE HAVE 52 CERTIFICATES, 27 ASSOCIATE DEGREES, NINE ACHIEVEMENT AWARDS.

THIS IS THINK ABOUT IF YOU ARE A STUDENT AND YOU KNOW YOU LIKE COMPUTERS AND YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN THINGS BUT YOU LOOK AT THIS AND GET CONFUSED IN A HURRY.

THIS NEEDS TO BE TIGHTENED UP.

WHERE ARE WE AT.

A LOT OF DUPLICATE PROGRAMS. SOME ARE OUTDATED.

WE'RE TEACHING SOME OF THEM.

A LOT OF COMPANIES HAVE SAID TO US, YOU KNOW, HOW UP TO DATE ARE YOUR FACULTY ON THESE? BECAUSE NO OTHER INDUSTRY REQUIRES FACULTY TO BE MORE UP TO DATE THAN THE I.T. INDUSTRY.

THERE HAVE BEEN CONCERNS EXPRESSED BY THE CORPORATE PARTNERS WE'VE BEEN TALKING WITH.

HERE YOU WILL SEE SOME OF THE CERTIFICATION AREAS.

THE AREAS IN THE PINK THERE ARE THE CURRENT CERTIFICATIONS THAT WE OFFER.

YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE SALARIES HERE.

AND AGAIN, THIS IS NOT FOR AN INDUSTRY-LEVEL INDIVIDUAL.

THESE ARE INDIVIDUALS WITH SOME BACKGROUND IN THIS, WHO PROBABLY HAVE A BACHELORS INDUSTRY.

BUT WE GET THEM ON THIS PATH.

NOT OVERLOOKING THE INCUMBENT WORKER.

WE HAVE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY O OFFER MORE OF THESE CERTIFICATIONS TO THESE INDIVIDUALS AS THEY ARE WORKING AND WEREN'T TO MOVE UP THE LADDER IN THEIR COMPANY.

-- WANT.

YOU CAN SEE THE MONEY.

>> THERE IS INDICATION WE MAY HAVE PEOPLE WHO HAVE HAVE BACHELORS INDUSTRY COMING BACK TO US TO TAKE THESE CERTIFICATIONS.

>> HERE YOU SEE WE'VE PUT THIS OUT BY ZIP CODE.

THE DARKER AREAS ARE WHERE STUDENTS ENROLLED IN I.T.

PROGRAMS RESIDE.

YOU CAN SEE THE NUMBERS, THE TOTAL NUMBER OF ENROLLMENTS, OUR COMPLETIONS.

AGAIN, WE'RE NOT GOING -- WE'RE JUST SCRATCHING THE SURFACE, 37,000 PLUS JOB POSTING.

PROJECTLING ANOTHER 17 AND A HALF THOUSAND THIS YEAR AND NEXT.

DOESN'T EVEN TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE VACANCIESES AND PEOPLE WHO ARE LEAVING FOR RETIREMENT OR WHATEVER.

WE'RE TALKING SIGNIFICANT NUMBERS OF JOB OPENINGS.

THE CHANCELLOR HAS TALKED ABOUT THIS.

IF YOU WANT TO KNOW THE REASON WHY AMAZON CHOSE NOT TO COME TO DALLAS, YOU DON'T HAVE TO OOK MUCH FURTHER THAN THAT RIGHT THERE.

>> CHAIR D. FLORES: HAVE YOU MADE A ETERMINATION, WE'RE FULFILLING 3.5% OF THE NEED IN NORTH TEXAS OR WHERE?

>> IS THAT A DALLAS COUNTY?

>> CHAIR D. FLORES: DALLAS COUNTY.

>> YOU HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND, PEOPLE DON'T THINK OF IT THIS WAY, BUT NORTH TEXAS IS SECOND ONLY TO SILICON VALLEY IN TERMS OF I.T. JOBS.

PEOPLE THINK AUSTIN BUT WE HAVE TWICE AS MANY.

>> CHAIR D. FLORES: 3.5% OF THE NEED IN DALLAS COUNTY.

HAVE OU PROJECTED WHAT THE OPTIMAL FILLING IS?

>> WELL, I MEAN, IT'S UNREALISTIC TO THINK YOU WILL GET 20% OF THAT NEED WITHIN --

>> CHAIR D. FLORES: I UNDERSTAND.

BUT INCREMENTAL GROWTH, HAVE YOU SET UP, YOU KNOW, WHAT POINTS YOU WANT TO GET TO INSTRUMENTALLY?

>> NO, MA'AM, WE HAVE NOT.

THAT IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH A INDUSTRY WIDE COMMITTEE.

WHAT IS THE NEED, WHERE DO WE NEED HOSE POSITIONS FILLED? AND SO THAT'S, I THINK, IS VERY CRITICAL YOU HAVE THIS INDUSTRY WIDE, DISTRICTWIDE COMMITTEE THAT SAYS THESE ARE THE AREAS TO FOCUS ON.

I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT, THESE ARE C.I.O.S IN THE ROOM THAT SIT

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DOWN AND TELL S THESE ARE THE PEOPLE WE'RE HIRING AND WE START TO LOOK FOR CONSENSUS.

>> CHAIR D. FLORES: YOU MIGHT WANT TO SET TARGETS SO YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE WORKING TOWARD.

>> WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THE INDUSTRY IS A NUMBER OF GROUPS WITH AMES LIKE GENERAL ASSEMBLY AND OTHERS ARE PARTNERING WITH COMPANIES.

AND THEY ARE FOR-PROFIT, TAKING GENERALLY NOW A PIECE OF THE INCOME SALARY OF THE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE PROVIDING THE TRAINING FOR FREE, IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE COMPANY AND LARGE NUMBERS WITH A PIECE OF FUTURE EARNINGS HOW THEY ARE DRIVING.

THAT IS IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR SOLUTION AND FRANKLY, THAT ARE LARGER THAN WE ARE.

>> ANOTHER PROBLEM IS THE FACT THEY HAVE BEEN PRETTY MUCH -- WE RELIED ON THEM FOR THE HIGHER END POSITIONS.

FOR PROLONGED TIME.

THAT'S PRETTY MUCH HAD A CHOKE HOLD PUT ON IT.

SO COMPANIES HAVE EXPRESSED A LOT OF NERVESNESS AND THE FACT THEY CAN'T BRING THAT TALENT IN.

OR IT'S MUCH MORE DIFFICULT TO FILL THOSE HIGHER-END POSITIONS.F IT'S A HUGE ISSUE.

>> I SAW A PRESENTATION ON PH.D.ES AND SOFTWARE ENGINEERS, WE COULD GET ONE EVERY 27 YEARS AT THE RATE THEY ARE BEING PRODUCED, THAT IS THE AVAILABILITY WITHOUT THE INTERNATIONAL PIECE.

>> EXACTLY.

YOU SEE HERE SOME NUMBERS.

RACIALLY WISE WE HAVE GOOD BALANCE THERE.

THE GENDER ISSUES IS A PROBLEM.

NOT ENOUGH WOMEN GOING INTO THIS PARTICULAR INDUSTRY SECTOR.

AND THE AGE IS A PROBLEM.

WHAT DOES THAT TELL US.

33-YEAR-OLD.

TELL US US A LOT OF INCUMBENT WORKERS.

NOT A LOT OF ENTRY-LEVEL WORKERS, THE 19, 21, 22-YEAR-OLD COMING IN TO THIS FIELD.

THIS TELL US WE HAVE A LOT F INCUMBENT WORKERS TRYING TO GET THOSE CERTIFICATIONS.

HERE'S A RESPONSE FROM OUR STUDENTS.

ENROLLING IN I.T., THOSE ARE ENROLLED, 57% TO EARN A CREDENTIAL, 14% PERSONAL ENRICHMENT, 12% DIDN'T REPORT A REASON.

HERE WE SEE THIS, WE USE A PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE THAT SCRAPES SOCIAL MEDIA SITES.

THAT SHOWS US THAT PUTS IF THEY ATTENDED ONE OF OUR COLLEGES ON A SOCIAL MEDIA, THIS SOFTWARE WILL TELL US WHERE THEY ARE WORKING AND ALSO LET US KNOW THE TOP EMPLOYERS WE HAVE, AND THAT SORT OF THING.

THERE IS A SAMPLE OF 858 INDIVIDUALS, WE DID A SCRAPE AND YOU CAN SEE THE JOB TITLES OF STUDENTS AND WHAT THEY HAVE.

FORMER STUDENTS.

AND YOU CAN SEE THE ESTIMATED AVERAGE SALARY.

IF THEY CAN GET ON THIS PATH, THERE IS DESCENT MONEY THERE.

AND SO IT'S CRITICAL WHEN WE LOOK AT THE TRANSFER PART OF THIS AS WELL.

BECAUSE A LOT OF THESE ARE GOING TO TRANSFER TO FOUR-YEAR PROGRAMS TO GET INTO THAT KIND OF SALARY RANGE.

ALSO THE CERTIFICATION PIECE IS CRITICAL TOO.

SOME OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS HERE.

THE ALIGNMENT, CONSULTATION OF SUMMER PROGRAMS, AND TRANSFER.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT IS THAT WE HAVE TALKED AND ARTICULATION AGREEMENT IN PLACE ITH NEW ENGLAND COLLEGE.

THEY START CLASSES THIS FALL AT RICHLAND FOR BACHELOR'S DEGREE IN CYBERSECURITY.

THEY WILL ACCEPT OUR STUDENTS' CREDITS FOR TRANSFER.

THE TUITION IS OMPETITIVE WITH THE PUBLIC INSTITUTIONS HERE IN THE CITY.

THEY ARE A FULLY ACC ACCREDITED INSTITUTION.

THEY HAVE HAD GREAT RESPONSE TRANSFERRING INTO THIS PROGRAM IN CYBERSECURITY.

THAT IS, I THINK IT IS A VERY POSITIVE.

A LOT OF THAT CAME FROM DIRECT INDUSTRY RESPONSE.

THEY SAID WE NEED MORE CYBERSECURITY SPECIALIST.

AND NEW ENGLAND COLLEGE AND OUR STAFF AND RICHLAND STEPPED UP TO THE PLATE AND REALLY GETTING THIS ROLLING.

IT'S A MATTER, CAN WE SCALE IT? CAN WE GET THIS IN MORE LOCATIONS? THAT'S SOMETHING WE DEFINITELY ARE GOING TO BE WORKING ON.

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A QUARTERLY REVIEW OF PROGRAMS, OR SEMIANNUALLY AT THE LATEST.

THIS CAN'T BE A ANNUAL OR BIANNUAL THING, IT AS TO HAPPEN WITH MUCH MORE FREQUENCY.

THE DISTRICTWIDE I.T. ADVISORY COUNCIL, THE AREAS OF ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE AND AUGMENTED REALITY ARE ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL.

WHEN YOU CALL UP A COMPANY, THE NUMBER OF TIMES YOU ARE TALKINGG TO A BOT, THEY ARE GETTING BETTER AND BETTER WITH THIS STUFF ALL THE TIME.

IT'S HARD TO ISTINGUISH THE DIFFERENCE.

AND MORE AND MORE COMPANIES ARE GOING TO BE EXPANDING THEIR CAPABILITIES IN THESE AREAS.

WE GOT TO GET THE RESOURCES AND SHIP THEM TO THE HIGH-DEMAND AREAS OF I.T.

ALIGNMENT OF THE I.T. PROGRAMS OFFERED FOR HERE THE STUDENTERIE LIVING.

WE HAVE TO GET OUR ACT TOGETHER ON THE ALIGNMENT SIDEMENT WHEN WE LOOK FOR EXAMPLE, BEGINNING COMPUTER COURSES.

WE HAVE DIFFERENT COURSE NAMES FOR THE SAME THING.

INTRO TO P.C. AND COMPUTER ESSENTIALS, IT'S ALL THE SAME.

BUT WE HAVE THREE DIFFERENT NAMES FOR THE SAME COURSE, DEPENDING ON WHICH COLLEGE IT'S OFFERED AT.

WE HAVE TO GET OUR ACT TOGETHER ON AND GET SOME CONTINUITY, SOME BASICALLY CONGRUENCE SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SAME THING.

AND LISTENING TO THE INDUSTRY, IT IS CRITICAL ON WHAT WE CAN DO HERE.

>> TO THIS STAGE LAST YEAR WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT PROGRAM REVIEW.

AND SO THAT IS HELPED INFORM SOME OF THIS.

WHICH IS ALSO HELPING SUPPORT THE FOUNDATION OF THE EDUCATIONAL MASTER PLAN, WHICH IS REFERENCED HERE.

AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN MORE DETAIL NEXT MONTH.

>> THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS FROM ANYONE? THANK YOU SO MUCH.

[B. Student-Centric Network: Policies for First Reading Presenters: Justin Lonon, Tricia Horatio, Mike Walker, Shaun Gilligan]

>> M. BRAVO: THE NEXT PRESENTATION IS THE STUDENT-CENTRIC NETWORK AND FIRST READING.

DUSTIN LONG WITH TRICIA.

>> A NUMBER OF FOLKS WHO ARE GOING TO JOIN UP HERE, INCLUDING SHAUN GILLIGAN, THE FACULTY ASSOCIATION PRESIDENT AND FACULTY MEMBER FROM CEDAR VALLEY COLLEGE.

DR. MIKE WALKER, THE EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT FROM EASTFIELD COLLEGE.

JAY PUCKT FROM O.P.C.G. AND TRIXA HORATIO, THE ALL KNOWING POLICY CZAR IS WITH US AS WELL.

I SHOULD MENTION THIS REPRESENTS A CROSS SECTION OF THE WORKING TEAM THAT'S BEEN WORKING ON THIS EFFORT THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS.

THE CROSS-FUNCTIONAL TEAM THAT HAD REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE INSTRUCTIONAL SIDE, THE STUDENT SERVICES, I.T., EGAL, H.R., ACADEMIC, AND THEN THE CAMPUS PERSPECTIVE AS WELL AS THE DISTRICT LEVEL.

THESE FOLKS ARE A CROSS SECTION OF THAT.

I SHOULD ALSO POINT OUT AND MENTION ON THE FIRST TWO ROWS HERE IS OUR FACULTY LEADERSHIP FROM EACH CAMPUS AND OUR COLLEGE PRESIDENTS JOINING THEM S WELL.

IT IS THESE FOLKS THAT HAVE HELPED INFLUENCE AND INFORM AND GUIDE THIS PROCESS MOVING FORWARD.

TO THIS STAGE AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO MOVING FORWARD.

I THINK IT'S FAIR TO SAY THAT THERE IS NOT UNIVERSAL SUPPORT OF ALL THESE ITEMS. SO I THINK, I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR SHAUN OR THE FACULTY, BUT CERTAINLY, THERE HAS BEEN CONCERNS AND ISSUES RAISED ALL ALONG THE WAY THAT HAS INFORMED THIS FEEDBACK.

AND SO WE HAVE MADE SOME CHANGES AND SOME DELAYS ALONG THE WAY.

FFOR THE TIME WE HAVE TODAY I WANT TO QUICKLY GO THROUGH AND SEE WHAT HAS LED US HERE AND WHAT THE RECOMMENDATIONS LOOK LK LIKE.

MINDFUL OF THE FACT THIS IS FOR FIRST READING.

CERTAINLY THERE IS NOR TIME WE'LL CONTINUE TO TAKE FEEDBACK ON THESE RECOMMENDATIONS.

AND MINDFUL OF THE FACT THAT THE CHANCELLOR PRESENTED ON SOME OF THIS LAST MONTH AS WELL.

I WON'T NECESSARILY BELABOR THE SLIDES.

THE APPENDIX IS THE BASIS OF WHAT WE PUT OUT ON APRIL 12 DISTRICTWIDE TO SOLICIT FEEDBACK

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AND SHARED THAT FULL PRESENTATION ON THE 2.

AND SENT TO YOU THE FOLLOWING WEEK.

I KNOW YOU HAVE HAD TO LOOK AT THIS AND DIGEST SOME OF IT.

WE WON'T NECESSARILY GO THROUGH EVERY PIECE OF IT.

WE'LL TRY TO HIT THE HIGH POINTS AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT MAY COME UP.

I WANTED TO STEP BACK AND REMIND US THAT WE HAVE DEVELOPED THESE POLICIES OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS REALLY TO -- WITH SIGNIFICANT STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT ALONG THE WAY.

TRYING TO ENSURE THAT THERE IS CONSISTENCY IN THESE POLICIES AND PROCESSES.

AND TO HELP GET US ON THE SAME PAGE AND FIND COMMON GROUND WHERE PREVIOUSLY THERE WAS INCONSISTENCIES AND THE INTERPRETATION AND UNDERSTANDING OF SOME OF THE BASIC TERMINOLOGY AS YOU SEE IN HERE WITHIN THE GLOSSARY AND HOW THAT IMPACTS THE BROAD POLICIES AS WELL.

AND SO YOU ARE SEEING THIS SLIDE BEFORE.

THIS REALLY SPEAKS TO THE TIMELINE IN WHICH WE'VE BEEN OPERATING ON.

THERE AT THE BOTTOM, THE NUMBER OF FOLKS THAT HAVE BEEN ENGAGED IN THIS PROCESS.

BUT THERE HAS BEEN WEEKLY MEETINGS AND INTERACTION WITH OUR WORKING TEAM.

REALLY THINKING THROUGH THESE ISSUES.

TO AGAIN, HELP INFORM THE RECOMMENDATIONS NEED TO LOOK LIKE AS WE OFTEN FORGED YOU FOR FIRST READING AND FURTHER CONSIDERATION.

THE NEXT SLIDE --

>> CHAIR D. FLORES: AT THE BOTTOM, THE WORKING TEAM, REPRESENTATIVES FROM EACH OF THESE GROUPS ON THE WORKING TEAMS?

>> YES.

>> CHAIR D. FLORES: PRETTY MUCH, EVERYONE EXCEPT SUPPORT STAFF BECAUSE THEY TYPICALLY DON'T WORK ON FACULTY MATTERS?

>> IGHT.

WE CERTAINLY ENGAGED WITH THE SUPPORT STAFF ASSOCIATION AND COUNCIL.

AND THERE WAS SOME THOUGHTS AND IDEAS WE HAD -- THAT THEY HAD THAT HELPED INFORM THIS AS WELL.

THIS IS THE BASIS OF THE WORKING TEAM.

AND THEN SOME OF THE OTHER INDIVIDUALS BEYOND THE WORKING TIME, LIKE THE INSTRUCTIONAL TEAMS AND LIKE THE FORUMS ON CAMPUS, HE TOWN HALL SESSIONS, DESIGNED TO GATHER FEEDBACK ALONG THE WAY.

>>

>> YES, MA'AM.

WE CREATED A WEBSITE TO BE A SIMPLE PLACE THAT HAD ALL OF THIS INFORMATION.

A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE CAN SUBMIT QUESTIONS AND FEEDBACK ALL ALONG THE WAY.

AND SO EACH OF THOSE SESSIONS IS ON THERE AS WELL.

>> D. ZIMMERMANN: WHAT THE WEBSITE?

>> I'LL AKE SURE YOU GET IT.

FEEDBACK/STUDENT TRANSFORMATION I BELIEVE IS WHAT IT IS.

WE'LL SEND YOU THE LINK.

THIS SLIDE GETS TO THE DETAIL OF THE POLICIES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE.

AGAIN, ON THE LEFT SIDE THESE ARE COLLAPSED INTO BROAD CATEGORIES RELATED TO LOAD, TO ENSURE WE'VE A CONSISTENT UNIT OF CONTACT HOURS, MAKING LAB AND LECTURE HOURS THE SAME.

CLARIFYING EXTRA SERVICE AND PART-TIME LIMITED.

AGAIN, GETTING A CONSISTENT DEFINITION OF WHAT WE HISTORICALLY CALLED THE LEASE TIME.

NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT AS REASSIGNED TIME.

AS WELL AS INSTITUTIONAL SERVICE.

AND THEN STANDARDIZED COURSE CAPABILITIES.

TO OPTIMIZE COURSE SIZES AND EQUITY AND LOAD.

AND FOCUS ON PRACTICES RELATED AROUND LARGE AND SMALL CONSTRUCTION.

FIVE OF THESE ARE THE ONES HAT ARE STARRED ON THE LEFT SIDE THERE ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE FLERG RECOMMENDATIONS, THE GROUP THAT WAS LED BY PRESIDENTS AND FACULTIES AND V.P.S.

TO LOOK AT SOME OF THESE ISSUES AROUND LOAD, WHICH HELPED INFORM THIS WORK BEFORE WE BROUGHT IN THE B.C.G. TEAM TO HELP US FURTHER.

>> CHAIR D. FLORES: ON ITEM THREE, THE NEXT TO THE LAST SENTENCE WHERE YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT EXCEPTIONS SUCH AS CLINICALS, WHERE THEY BE CLEARLY IDENTIFIED IN POLICY? WHERE WILL THAT BE CLEARLY IDENTIFIED OR DEFINED?

>> PART OF WHAT YOU WILL SEE IN THE WORK IS THE NEXT STEPS AND STAGES ARE PUT TOGETHER, WORKING TEAMS THAT WILL HELP INFORM THE PROCESS AND PROCEDURES AROUND

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EACH OF THESE POLICY ITEMS. SO IT WILL GET INTO SOME OF THOSE DETAILS AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

AND BECAUSE THE RECOMMENDATION IS THAT AND THE IMP CALCULATION IS THE POLICY ITEMS WOULD NOT TAKE EFFECT UNTIL FALL OF 2020.

IMPLICATION.

>> CHAIR D. FLORES: THESE DEFINITIONS AND THIS TYPE OF CLARITY WILL NOT BE IN POLICY.

THEY WILL BE--

>> THESE ITEMS YOU SEE BEFORE YOU WE'LL GET INTO THE ACTUAL LOCAL BOARD POLICIES THAT WILL HAVE SOME OF THESE.

>> CHAIR D. FLORES: I UNDERSTAND THAT.

BUT THERE IS BOARD POLICY.

THEN THERE IS ADMINISTRATIVE, WHAT? ADMINISTRATIVE PROCEDURES THEN H.R. --

>> CURRENTLY HAVE -- PREVIOUSLY WE HAD H.R. AND REGULATIONS THAT ACCOMPANY BOARD POLICY.

WE'RE GOING TO MOVE AWAY FROM REGULATION AND H ROG AND DEVELOP WHAT IS CONSIDERED RIGHT NOW AN EDGE, WHICH IS A DOCUMENT THAT WILL OUTLINE THE PROCEDURES.

TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, NO.

SOME OF THOSE EXCEPTIONS WILL NOT BE EXPRESSLY OUTLINED IN POLICY BECAUSE WE WANT TO KEEP POLICY RELATIVELY HIGH-LEVEL.

THE PROCEDURE WILL HAVE THE DETAIL.

>> CHAIR D. FLORES: THE ADMINISTRATIVE PROCEDURES.

>> YES.

>> CHAIR D. FLORES: OKAY.

SO IN THE ADMINISTRATIVE PROCEDURES WILL YOU HAVE DEFINED WHERE THE ACCOUNTABILITY IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS POLICY COMPLIANCE IN THESE AREAS?

>> YES, MA'AM.

>> I MIGHT ADD THAT IS PART OF THE CHARGE AS WE BRING IN A NEW HEAD ARBITER FOR THE DISTRICT THERE IS BE A PERFORMANCE PIECE OF THAT, NOT JUST FINANCIAL.

>> CHAIR D. FLORES: OKAY.

BECAUSE I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS ON ACCOUNTABILITY.

BECAUSE I THINK THAT IS HOW WE'VE GOT INTO THE SITUATION WE'RE IN CURRENTLY IN TERMS OF SEVEN DIFFERENT DEFINITIONS, SEVEN DIFFERENT THIS, SEVEN DIFFERENT HAT AND NOT THE CONSISTENCY THAT WE NEED.

>> FAIR POINTS.

PART OF THE NEXT PHASE ON SOME OF THIS WORK LOOKING AT ROAD AND SCHEDULE MANAGEMENT, WE'LL CERTAINLY SEEK TO GET INTO THAT ACCOUNTABILITY.

>> D. ZIMMERMANN: I UNDERSTAND THIS IS FIRST READING.

BUT THERE IS TOO MANY TO BE DETERMINES.

THERE IS A LOT OF IT THAT IS KIND OF UP IN THE AIR.

THE IDEA OF THIS WILL BE BASED UPON A LIBERAL INTERPRETATION OF THE POLICY.

>> SURE.

AT THIS STAGE, WE'RE TRYING TO GET THINGS ON THE SAME PAGE AND HAVE CONSISTENCY ACROSS-THE-BOARD.

THESE NEXT COUPLE OF SLIDES SPEAK TO EACH ITEM INDIVIDUALLY AND WHY WE'RE CHANGING IT, WHAT IS DOES IT MEAN AND THE PATH FORWARD.

THE PATH FORWARD IS WE'RE GOING TO SPEND ADDITIONAL TIME IN GETTING, AGAIN, SOME OF THESE GROUPS TO ENSURE THAT THESE PROCESS PROCEDURES FOLLOW WHAT POLICY NEEDS TO FOLLOW.

AGAIN.

TO TRICIA'S POINT, WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP THE POLICY AT A HIGH LEVEL TO GET US ON THE SAME PAGE AND GET US INTO THE DETAIL --

>> D. ZIMMERMANN: COMPREHENSIVE DEFINITION WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE OPERATING GUIDELINES.

IT'S, IT WILL BE IN THE OPERATING GUIDELINES.

AT THIS POINT, WE'RE WORKING ON GUIDELINES.

WE'RE STILL WORKING ON -- PUTTING UP THE UMBRELLA.

WE'RE NOTT ANYWHERE CLOSE TO SHELTERING ANYTHING JUST YET.

>> WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THE UMBRELLA TO GET TO THIS POINT.

AS YOU YOU WILL SEE IN A COUPLE OF MINUTES, HOW YOU BUILD THESE TEAMSIZE HOW WE SPEND THE NEXT YEAR BEFORE THESE POLICIES WOULD GO INTO AFFECT.

TO YOUR POINT, THERE IS A LOT OF WORK TO DO.

AND THE FOCUS HAS BEEN GETTING THESE POLICY ITEMS TOGETHER.

>> CHAIR D. FLORES: TYPICALLY HOW IT WORKS IS THE POLICY IS HALF AND WHERE IT NEEDS, THINKING ABOUT THE UMBRELLA, WHERE IT NEEDS THE SPOKES IS ONES YOU HAVE THE POLICY SET YOU WORK ON THE SPOKES TO HOLD UP THE POLICY.

>> THE NEXT COUPLE OF SLIDES, THEY PROVIDE THE FOUNDATION AND THE NEXT STEPS OF WHAT WE WOULD DO WITH EACH ONE OF THESE.

>> D. ZIMMERMANN: AGAIN, A LOT OF TO-BE DETERMINED.

>> TO THE CHAIR'S POINT, THAT IS OUR TYPICAL PATH AS WE WORK ON

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THIS KIND OF EFFORT TO GET THE POLICY PIECES TOGETHER AND THEN LOOK AHEAD TO THE DETAIL.

>> D. ZIMMERMANN: IF I MIGHT, NUMBER THREE ON PAGE FOUR.

TALKS ABOUT CLEARLY DEFINE EXTRA SERVICE MAXIMUMS. IT SAYS HERE, LARITY, CURRENT LOCAL BOARD POLICY DOES CLEARLY DEFINE THE TYPE OF HOURS THAT BOUND EXTRA SERVICE.

AND THEN IT SAYS, INCONSISTENT APPLICATION.

IT SEEMS LIKE WE SOLVED OUR OWN PROBLEM THERE, YES?

>> YES, THAT IS A TYPO.

WE'LL CORRECT IT.

>> DOES NOT.

>> D. ZIMMERMANN: OH, OKAY.

>> YES, THANK YOU.

>> THEN TO YOUR QUESTION AGAIN, ABOUT GETTING THINGS ON THE SAME PAGE.

THIS MAY SEEM VERY BASIC OF HAVING A GLOSSARY FOR KEY TERMS. BUT THERE HAS BEEN DIFFERENT EXPECTATIONS OF WHAT THESE THINGS ARE.

DIFFERENT UNDERSTANDING OVER A PERIOD OF TIME.

SO REALLY, AGAIN, THIS IS OUR EFFORT TO KIND OF GET US ALL ON THE SAME PAGE.

THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE.

SO WHEN THESE POLICIES ARE ENACTED, PEOPLE HAVE A FOUNDATION.

>> CHAIR D. FLORES: ONCE AGAIN, THERE WILL BE A AUDIT FUNCTION ON THESE POLICIES PERTAINING TO FACULTY LOAD, ET CETERA, ET CETERA?

>> YES.

>> D. ZIMMERMANN: POLICIES.

EACH OF THE ITEMS FOR FIRST READING ARE REPRESENTED BY A SLIDE IN THE PRESENTATION.

>> JUST TOP IS A JUSTIFICATION FOR THE POLICY.

TO YOUR LEFT IS THE PROPOSED POLICY AMENDMENT.

TO THE RIGHT ARE THE KEY POINTS

[3) Approval of Amendment to Policy Concerning Faculty Load: DJ (LOCAL) Assignment, Work Load, and Schedules]

OF CHANGE RELATING TO THE POLICY.

THE FIRST ONE ADDRESSING FULL-TIME FACULTY WORKLOAD.

ESSENTIALLY CURRENT POLICY STATES THE MINIMUM FULL-TIME FACULTY WORKLOAD IS 30 HOURS.

WHAT WE HAVE DONE HERE IS LEFT THAT THE SAME.

KEEPING IT AT A BASELINE.

AND ADDED CLARIFICATION ESSENTIALLY DISTRIBUTING THE COMPONENTS OF THE 30 HOURS INTO DITINCT BUCKETS.

15 ADJUSTED CONTACTED HOURS, TEACHING ASSIGNMENT AS A MINIMUM, WHICH IS IS.

A MINIMUM OF FIVE HOURS OF OFFICE HOURS, WHICH IS ALSO ESTABLISHED IN THE CURRENT H.

ROG.

AND THEN A MINIMUM OF 10 HOURS, WHICH IS TO BE SPREAD ACROSS CLASS PREPARATION, GRADING, INSTITUTIONAL SERVICE AND PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT.

AND AS STATED IN POLICY, THE INSTITUTION SERVICE IS AN EXPECTED COMPONENT OF FULL-TIME FACULTY EMPLOYMENT WITH THE DISTRICT.

>> CHAIR D. FLORES: A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

>> YES.

>> CHAIR D. FLORES: OKAY.

SO A MINIMUM OF 30 CROSS HOURS, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? IS THERE A MAXIMUM?

>> WELL, ACTUALLY WHAT IS STATED IN POLICY PROBABLY DOESN'T REFLECT THE ACTUAL.

SHAUN AND I CAN SPEAK TO THIS, WHAT FACULTY ACTIVELY ENGAGE IN, WHETHER IT IS 30 OR 40 HOURS.

WE'RE CREATING A MINIMUM STANDARD OF A MINIMUM OF 30 CLOCK HOURS IS EXPECTED.

>> CHAIR D. FLORES: EVER SINCE I HAVE BEEN AFFILIATED WITH THE DISTRICT, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT FACULTY WORK 30 CLOCK HOURS.

AND HAT'S WHAT IS IN THE CONTRACT.

SO IS THAT THE BEST PRACTICE? EVEN THOUGH SOME FACULTY FEEL THEY ARE WORKING MORE? BUT IS THAT STILL STANDARD WE NEED TO HOLD TO IN POLICY? SHOULD IT BE A MINIMUM OR THE REGULAR WORKWEEK OF 40 HOURS, SINCE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS GET TO CONSISTENCY, EQUITY, ET CETERA, NOT -- DEFINITELY WITH FACULTY, BUT IN REGARDS TO THE CLOCK HOURS, WITH ADMINISTRATORS AND SUPPORT STAFF.

WE'RE ALREADY LOOKING AT THE VACATION DATES TO HOPEFULLY GET TO EQUITY THERE.

BUT SHOULD THE CLOCK HOURS BE THE SAME FOR ACROSS THE DIFFERENT EMPLOYMENT GROUPS? THAT'S A QUESTION I'M PUTTING BEFORE THE BOARD TO MAYBE DISCUSS AT A LATER TIME.

>> CERTAINLY, IT'S A FAIR QUESTION.

IT CAME UP TO SOME DEGREE IN THE WORK THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT.

AND IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE DIDN'T ADDRESS.

BUT WE HAD CONVERSATION AND DIALOGUE AROUND THAT.

THERE IS SOME ADDITIONAL IMPLICATIONS WE WOULD NEED TO CONSIDER IN THAT.

BUT IT'S CERTAINLY A FAIR QUESTION FOR THE BOARD TO ASK TO TAKE A LOOK AT.

>> CHAIR D. FLORES: IS THERE A

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CONSENSUS TRUSTEE BRAVO, THAT THE BOARD ASKS STAFF TO LOOK AT THAT INFORMATION? THAT INSTEAD OF THE 30 CLOCK HOURS WE LOOK AT, WHAT ARE THE IMPLICATIONS IF WE REQUIRE FACULTY TO WORK 40 CLOCK HOURS AS THE OTHER EMPLOYEES DO.

IS THERE A CONSENSUS OF THE BOARD? IF NOT, BECAUSE ONE TRUSTEE IS SPEAKING --

>> WE CAN SHARE.

OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE DIFFERENT ROLES AND DIFFERENT EXPECTATION AND DIFFERENT HOURS AND DIFFERENT WAYS OF ENGAGING THEM.

WHAT WE'RE LOOKING ON IS TO FOCUS ON THE LEARNER INSIDE AND OUTSIDE OF THE CLASSROOM AND CONTRIBUTE TO THE OVERALL OPERATIONS OF THE DISTRICT.

THERE IS AN EXPECTATION THAT OUR FACULTY BE INVOLVED IN COMMITTEES AND OTHER SPECIAL ASSIGNMENTS AS PART OF THEIR REGULAR LOAD.

NOT ALWAYS UNIFORM.

SOME ARE.

SOME CHOOSE TO BE A PART OF A SPECIFIC ORGANIZATION.

WHILE OTHERS TAKE ON OTHER ASSIGNMENTS AS NEEDED AND BE PART OF THAT.

SO THERE IS SOME GIVE AND TAKE.

I THINK IT'S RECOGNIZING THE UNIQUE ROLE OF THE WEEKEND OR DIFFERENT TIMES.

>> CHAIR D. FLORES: THAT WOULD BE EXTRA SERVICE?

>> NOT NECESSARILY.

>> CHAIR D. FLORES: REASSIGNED TIMES?

>> NOT NECESSARILY.

IT CAN BE PART OF THE REGULAR LOAD.

SOME OF THE THEM IT'S ONLINE FOR EXAMPLE.

>> CHAIR D. FLORES: WELL THEN, FOR EXAMPLE, IF THEY -- WOULD WE THEN SAY A MINIMUM OF 30, A MAXIMUM OF 40? IF THEY ARE WORKING OF 40S, SHOULDN'T THEY GET PAID FOR IT?

>> GENERALLY, THEY ARE, I THINK PROBABLY IN SOME CASES BUT NOT ALWAYS.

HOPEFULLY, WE'RE MANAGING THAT PROCESS IN THE CORRECT WAY.

>> CHAIR D. FLORES: WHAT DO YOU SAY, TOM?

>> I WAS HINKING ABOUT MY ENGLISH FACULTY.

AND THE AMOUNT OF TIME IT WOULD TAKE THEM TO GRADE PAPERS.

EVEN IF THEY ARE JUST TEACHING A BASE LOAD, TO REALLY GO THROUGH THAT AND GIVE GOOD COMMENTS TO THE STU STUDENTS TO BUILD SKILL.

IF YOU DID THAT OVER A PERIOD AND ENGAGING IN OTHER ACTI ACTIVITIES, YOU WOULD SPEND MORE THAN 30 HOURS IN TERMS OF ACTUAL WORKLOAD.

HOW MANY HOURS, THAT IS NOT TYPICALLY HOW FACULTY TEND TO THINK OF WHAT THEY DO.

>> CHAIR D. FLORES: I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED THAT A MINIMUM OF 30.

>> KIND OF A GLOBAL OBSERVATION.

I WAS READING THROUGH THIS.

ONE THOUGHT, THE CORPORATE WORLD YOU HAVE TWO TYPES OF EMPLOYEES.

YOU HAVE YOUR NONEXEMPT HOURLY AND EXEMPT-PROFESSIONAL EMPLOYEES.

AND THEY ARE TREATED DIFFERENTLY AND HAVE DIFFERENT WORK RULES.

WHAT ARE FOR HOURLY EMPLOYEES IS MUCH MORE RESTRICTIVE AND DOCUMENTED AND POLICY-DRIVEN, MUCH MORE REGULATED.

AND I READ ALL THIS.

IT'S A REALLY DELICATE BALANCING ACT.

WE DON'T WANT TO TAKE A GROUP OF PROFESSIONALS WHO ARE THE CORE OVERREGULATED ENVIRONMENT THAT LACKS TRUST AND EMPOWERMENT.

I BELIEVE THE FACT THAT MOST FACULTY ARE SPENDING MORE THAN 30 HOURS GETTING READY.

FACULTY ARE THE MOST UNDERPAID PROFESSIONALS IN OUR SOCIETY TODAY.

WE HAVE A SITUATION WHERE WE HAVE TO GET OME CONSISTENCY AND SHARED NORMS BUILT ACROSS THIS.

REGARDLESS OF WHAT IS IN THE WORDS, THE WORDS ARE IMPORTANT.

THAT'S WHAT THIS PROCESS IS GOING TO ENABLE.

I HAVE TROUBLE TOO, DOROTHY, I CIRCLED, EXPECTED FUTURE.

ARE THESE TOO VAGUE? I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF TRUST TO THE ADMINISTRATORS AND THE FACULTY IN TERMS OF HOW THIS PLAYS OUT IN THE MONTHS AHEAD SO WE DON'T GET INTO AN OVERPRESCRIPTIVE ENVIRONMENT.

TWO QUICK QUESTIONS.

IS FIVE HOURS OF OFFICE TIME ENOUGH?

>> YES, IN TERMS OF ACCESS TO

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STUDENTS.

>> WHERE DID THAT NUMBER COME FROM? AND I TEND TO THINK THAT THE GREATEST [INDISCERNIBLE] IS A FACULTY MEMBER.

MENTOR --

>> YOU CAN PROBABLY THINK FROM YOUR EXPERIENCE, THAT'S NOT ALWAYS HOW IT WORKS WHEN ENGAGING WITH THE FACULTY.

MAYBE ELSEWHERE.

>> YEAH.

>> PARTICULARLY, IF YOU ARE TEACHING ONLINE , FOR INSTANCE, A LOT OF YOUR MENTORING OF STUDENTS IS GOING TO HAPPEN VERY ASYNCHRONOUSLY AND SPORADICALLY, IGNIFICANT EXPENDITURES OF THAT KIND OF MENTORING FOR ANY PARTICULAR TIME IN THE SEMESTER MORE THAN OTHER COURSES.

THE IDEA OF OFFICE HOURS I THINK WE NEED TO EXPAND THE WAY WE THINK ABOUT THAT IS VERY SORT OF, PARDON MY SAYING, OVERLY KIND OF -- I DON'T WANT TO SAY ARCHAIC.

BUT TO EXPECT THE STUDENTS TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY, THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE FLEXIBILITY IN TERMS OF HOW WE CONSIDER WHERE THE FACULTY ARE INTERACTING WITH STUDENTS IN ORDER TO GET THINGS DONE.

>> IT'S NOT JUST IN THE -- IT IS AN ARCHAIC

>> JUST THE LAST QUESTION.

IN THE POLICIES T THAT WE PRESENTED TODAY, THERE IS PASSING REFERENCE TO NONTRADITIONAL INSTRUCTION, SUCH AS DISTANCE LEARNING.

IS DISTANCE LEARNING SUCH A DIFFERENT MODALITY WE NEED A SEPARATE WAY OF COMPENSATING THAT METHODOLOGY OF TEACHING? BECAUSE IT IS ASYNCHRONOUS, IT CAN BE DONE ALL HOURS.

IN TERMS OF BEING THE PRESENTER, IT REQUIRES A DIFFERENT CURRICULUM AND SET OF TEACHING MATERIALS IN A LOT OF WAYS.

HAS THAT BECOME SO BIG WE OUGHT TO CONSIDER IT AS A SEPARATE POLICY CATEGORY IN TERMS OF FACULTY LOAD?

>> I DON'T KNOW HOW TO ANSWER THAT.

I THINK OF IT MORE FROM THE OTHER SIDE, WHICH IS THE STUDENT SIDE OF HOW THAW WANT TO ENGAGE ON THAT.

AND LOOKING AT IT FROM AS LIVES GET BUSIER AND BUSIER, THEY ARE TAKING MORE AND MORE ONLINE.

NOT ALWAYS BECAUSE THEY NECESSARILY WANT TO BUT BECAUSE IT'S THE ONLY AY THEY CAN.

HOW DO WE RESPOND TO IT IN THE MOST FLEXIBLE WAY AND HIGH-QUALITY WAY POSSIBLE.

WHAT WE'RE SEEING, THEY ARE NOT JUST TAKING COURSES TO GET DEGREES,

>> CHAIR D. FLORES: TO PIGGYBACK ON WHAT YOU SAID, TRUSTEE RITTER OF BEING OVERLY PRESCRIPTIVE.

BY HAVING THAT LANGUAGE, MINIMUM OF 30 CLOCK HOURS, BUT I THINK IT SENDS THE WRONG MESSAGE.

I THINK IT IS SAYING THAT IS ALL THEY WORK, WHICH IT ISN'T.

IS THERE ANOTHER WAY WE COULD STATE THAT IS MY QUESTION? THEN I HAVE SEVERAL OTHER QUESTIONS.

NUMBER THREE, EXPECTED, THE WORD, "EXPECTED" IS THAT THE BEST WORD TO USE? REGARDED AS LIKELY OR ANTICIPATED IS THE DEFINITION.

I LOOKED UP THE WORD, "LIKELY" THE DEFINITION IS PROBABLE OR PROBABLY.

SHOULD EXPECTED BE IN THERE OR SOMETHING THAT IS TO USE TRUSTEE RITTER'S WORD, SOMETHING MORE PRESCRIPTIVE.

SO THERE IS NO WIGGLE ROOM.

THEY EXPECT IT BUT THEY DON'T REQUIRE IT.

>> FROM WHEN I WAS IN THE CLASSROOM, I HAD WEEKED THAT WOULD BE LIGHT.

I HAD A FINAL WEEK WHERE IT WASS THE CREDIBLY HEAVY.

INCREDIBLY -- SO IT IS A CHALLENGE.

I HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, CHAIR FLORES.

THE MESSAGE AND I ALWAYS STRUGGLED WITH THAT THROUGHOUT MY CAREER BECAUSE IT'S CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE SEE IN OTHER COLLEGES AND INSTITUTIONS AROUND SIMILAR LANGUAGE.

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KNOWING THE VERY NATURE OF THE RESPONSIBILITIES OF FACULTY MEAN IT IS MUCH LIKE AS TRUSTEE RITTER SAID, NOT A CONSISTENT DAY.

AND JUST DAYS, WEEKS AND EXAMS AND GRADING, AND CONSULTATION WITH STUDENTS, IT'S SIMPLY MORE DIFFICULT THAN OTHERS.

LIFE SAFETY ISSUES.

SO IT VARIES AS WE

>>

>> CHAIR D. FLORES: NO, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.

BEING A RETURNING STUDENT, I SEE THAT BUT WE HAVE SEEN ALSO WHERE AT THE NO FAULT OF ANYONE WE HAD JUST INCONSISTENCIES.

WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO FAIRNESS, CONSISTENCY, REMUNERATION, ET ET CETERA, ET CETERA. DO WE KEEP WORDING THAT WHERE THEY COULD BE OPEN TO DIFFERENT INTERPRETATIONS, DIFFERENT APPLICATIONS WHERE IT ENDS US BACK IN THE SAME PLACE.

>> THAT IS SOMETHING WE HAVE SPENT A LOT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT.

THERE IS TWO SIDES.

THE POLICY AND THEN THE PROCEDURE SIDE.

AND THEN THERE IS ALSO THE SUPERVISOR AND ACCOUNTABILITY SIDE.

>> CHAIR D. FLORES: THAT'S ALL WE'VE BEEN IS SUPERVISOR.

AND AND UP TO THE LINE SUPERVISR AND WE ARE WHERE WE ARE.

>> HAT'S THE ONE PIECE WE BELIEVE WE CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT AND [INDISCERNIBLE] 2020 AS WE REALLY WORK COLLABORATIVELY ACROSS.

WE HAD HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH LEADERSHIP ON THAT.

WE'RE LOOKING AT IT.

AND ALSO REDESIGNING AS WHERE MENTIONED EARLIER, SOME OF THE POSITIONS TO REALLY FOCUS ON THAT ACCOUNTABILITY PIECE.

AND ON UNIFORMITY.

ON THE AUDITS DONE IN THE PAST, IT WAS ACKNOWLEDGED IN THERE THAT THINGS WERE DONE DIFFERENTLY.

WE LOOKED AT DIFFERENT COLLEGES SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT IN THE PROCESS.

THAT IS NOT APPROPRIATE.

WE NEED TO BE THE SAME EVERYWHERE.

>> THE NEXT SLIDES GETS INTO THE POLICY AROUND LOAD AND EXTRA SERVICES.

THIS IS SOME THE DRAFT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON AT THIS POINT.

YOU WILL SEE IN OTHERS, THERE IS QUITE A BIT NEW POLICY LANGUAGE THAT WE'VE WORKED ON.

>> D. ZIMMERMANN: I MENTIONED ADJUSTED CONTACT HOURS IN THE PREVIOUS SLIDE.

>> THIS POLICY REVISION RELATES TO ADJUSTED CONTACT HOURS.

ESSENTIALLY, THEY ARE CONTACT HOURS FOR AN ASSIGNED COURSE.

WHY NOT CALL THEM CONTACTS HOURS.

THE REASON WE USE ADJUSTED CONTACT HOURS BECAUSE IT'S NOT ALWAYS REFLECTIVE OF EVERY COURSE.

CLINICAL COURSES WHERE WE THINK OF CONTACT HOURS, WE THINK FACE-TO-FACE INSTRUCTION.

CLINICAL MIGHT NOT HAVE FACE-TO-FACE BUT THE STUDENTS ARE PARTICIPATING SO IT MIGHT GO BEYOND A REGULAR SENSE OF A CONTACT HOUR.

HENCE, WE SE ADJUSTED CONTACT HERE.

THEY WILL DETERMINE LOAD AND COMPENSATION FOR FULL-TIME FACULTY WITH ONE LAB CONTACT HOUR EQUALING AND ADJUSTED HOUR EQUALING AN ADJUSTING CONTACT HOUR.

SO THEY BASICALLY ARE MADE THE SAME IN THAT RESPECT.

IN ADDITION, WE ESTABLISHED A STANDARD FOR A TRADITIONAL ACADEMY YEAR, MEANING A FALL AND SPRING SEMESTER OF 16 WEEKS EACH.

BEING 480 ADJUSTED CONTACT HOURS.

SO THAT LAXES AT IT IN TOTALITY INSTEAD OF JUST PER WEEK LIKE WE DID WITH THE WORKLOAD.

BECAUSE THINGS CAN CHANGE.

SO THIS GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO MEET WITH AN ENTIRE SEMESTER, 240 HOURS OR 480 HOURS FOR 16-WEEK SEMESTER.

FINALLY, THE POLICY STATES EXCEPTIONS CAN BE MADE IN ACCORDANCE WITH ESTABLISHED PROCEDURES, WHICH WE'RE ORKING TOWARD.

>> CHAIR D. FLORES: SO DOWN AT THE BOTTOM YOU HAVE A FULL-TIME INSTRUCTOR.

BUT YOU START THE SENTENCE, FULL-TIME FACULTY MEMBER.

BE SURE YOU ADD, "A" IN THERE.

>> WHAT IS THE THEORY, I MEAN, IF SOMEBODY TEACHES EXTRA SERVICE, SO THEY ARE DOING ABOVE AND BEYOND THE MINIMUM JOB.

CUTTING THEIR RATE OF PAY.

IT SAYS, IT WILL BE PAID TO THE PART-TIME FACULTY RATE.

WHY WOULDN'T THEY BE PAID THE SAME RATE AS THEY ARE BEING PAID

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WHEN THEY ARE DOING THE REGULAR LOAD INSTRUCTION?

>> OKAY, SO EXTRA SERVICE, WHICH I HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO YET ON THERE.

THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE.

EXTRA SERVICE BEYOND THEIR ACTUAL WORKLOAD.

IT IS CONSIDERED CURRENTLY AT AN ADJUSTED RATE.

IT'S BEEN, WE'VE BEEN DOING THAT IN CURRENT PRACTICE.

SO THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF THAT.

>> WHY DOES SOMEBODY BECOME LESS VALUABLE ALL OF A SUDDEN? THE INCREMENTAL HOURS.

>> CHAIR D. FLORES: THEY MIGHT BE MORE VALUABLE.

>> WHAT IS THE THEORY?

>> WE LOOK AT PART-TIME FACULTY THEY DON'T HAVE THE SAME EXPECTATION OF OFFICE OURS, INSTITUTIONAL ENGAGEMENT, OTHER TYPES OF.

THAT APPLIES.

WE HAVE STATED THEIR ROLE, WHICH IS FIVE HOURS OF OFFICE, 10 HOURS A WEEK.

THAT DOES NOT GET ADDED ON.

WE ADD THE COURSES TO THAT.

THIS IS AN AGREEMENT, NOT ENGAGE IN ADDITIONAL OR EXPANDED DUTIES THAT COME WITH THAT.

>> I'M GOING TO NEED IMMEDIATE TRAINING ON THIS.

>> WE CAN GET TOGETHER.

I'M SORRY, WHAT DO YOU THINK OF IT?

>> WE CAN GET TOGETHER LATER.

>> M. BRAVO: IT'S 4:15.

>> WE CAN PASS HAT.

REASSIGN TIME.

JUSTIN TOUCHED ON THIS WHEN WE OPENED UP THE PRESENTATION.

THIS POLICY WAS APPRECIATELY KNOWN AS RELEASE TIME.

WE CHANGED TO REASSIGN TIME TO MORE ACCURATELY REFLECT THE ACTIVITY.

FACULTY ARE NOT RELEASED FROM OBLIGATIONS.

ESSENTIALLY, THE POLICY SAYS IT WOULD BE APPROVED BY THE DESIGNATED ADMINISTRATOR.

ONLY BE ACTIVITIES THAT EQUATE TO WHAT IS EXPECTED OR CONTEMPLATED BY A TEACHING ASSIGNMENTS.

AND PROCEDURES WILL DETERMINE THERE VALUES OF REASSIGNED TIMES.

FOR PART-TIME FACULTY, IT PLACES ADJUNCT FACULTY IN THE CONTEXT OF ADJUSTED CONTACT HOURS LIKE FULL-TIME FACULTY AND SETS FORTH THE EXCEPTIONS TO THE POLICY WILL BE MADE PER PROCEDURE.

>> CHAIR D. FLORES: IT'S EITHER A RUN-ON SENTENCE OR YOU MIGHT WANT TO MAKE T INTO TWO SENTENCES.

I READ IT TWO OR THREE TIMES.

>> IN THE CIRCUMSTANCE OF OUR FULL-TIME FACULTY WE'RE SPECIFYING FIVE OFFICE HOURS PRIOR TO -- OFFICE HOURS.

FOR ADJUNCT WE'RE SAYING SOMETHING MUCH VAGUER, PROVIDER CONSULTATION TO STUDENTS.

ANY REASON WHY WE WOULDN'T HAVE OFFICE HOURS REQUIREMENT WITH ADJUNCTS?

>> THEY ARE NOT REQUIRED TO PARTICIPATE IN OFFICE HOURS OR INSTITUTIONAL SERVICE FOR A FULL-TIME FACULTY.

>> THIS IS TRULY AN AGREEMENT FOR THEM TO COME INTO THE CLASSROOM AND TEACH THE COURSES ON A PART-TIME BASIS.

IT'S MUCH MORE TRANSACTIONAL THAN THE EXPECTATIONS OF OUR FULL-TIME FACULTY.

WE'RE ALSO HAVE TO BE MUCH MORE [INDISCERNIBLE] BECAUSE THESE ARE IMPLICATIONS AND OTHER THINGS THAT ARE HERE AND [INDISCERNIBLE] OTHER ISSUES AS WE GET INTO THAT.

SO THEY HAVE TO BE MANAGED MUCH DIFFERENTLY THAN OUR FULL-TIME

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FACULTY.

.>> WE'RE ENSURING CONSISTENCY N CORE CAPACITY ACROSS THE DIFFERENT COLLEGES, BASICALLY ALL COURSES WILL BE SET, THE CAPACITY LEVEL WILL BE SET AND DETERMINED BY DISCIPLINE, DEAD GAGICAL RECOMMENDATIONS AND PRACTICAL CONSIDERATION, PEDAGOGICAL -- SAFETY AND EQUIPMENT.

AND THEN WITHIN THE POLICY, WE STATE THAT WE WILL ESTABLISH MINIMUM AND MAXIMUM COURSE CAPACITIES FOR EACH SECTION.

THOSE WILL BE SET FORTH IN PROCEDURE AND EXCEPTIONS TO THOSE RULES WILL BE SET FORTH IN PROCEDURE AS WELL.

AND FINALLY --

>> I WAS CURIOUS, THE CHOICE OF WORDS THERE.

IF A COURSE OR SECTION ENROLLMENT IS LESS THAN THE MINIMUM.

IT SHALL BE CANCELED.

OR WE SHALL ADD A NEW SECTION.

DO WE HAVE THE FACILITIES TO OFFER NEW SECTIONS IF THEY ARE OVER SUBSCRIBED OR A DISSERVICE

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TO STUDENTS IF THEY ARE ONE PERSON SHORT IN THEIR SECTION.

I'M JUST WONDERING IF WE HAVE ENOUGH IGGLE ROOM AT THE LOCAL LEVEL.

>> I BELIEVE WE DO.

THOSE NEED TO BE EVALUATED AND WE CERTAINLY, EACH SITUATION IS DIFFERENT.

AND SPACE IS A CONSIDERATION.

SOMETIMES WE HAVE PLENTY OF SPACE, SOMETIMES WE DON'T.

SOME COLLEGES HAVE MORE THAN OTHERS.

THE VARIABLES ARE HIGH.

IT TAKES INDIVIDUALLY LOOKING AT EACH SITUATION AND MAKING THAT JUDGMENT.

IT IS ONE THING IF [INDISCERNIBLE] OR IF IT'S REQUIRED FOR GRADUATION.

>> D. ZIMMERMANN: THAT WAS MY CONCERN.

BECAUSE THERE IS LOTS OF TIMES FOLKS, IF THERE IS A REQUIREMENT YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO SIT OUT TWO SEMESTERS UNTIL THEY OFFER THE COURSE AGAIN.

>> THAT'S ALL PART OF WHAT IS FACTORED INTO THAT PROCESS.

AGAIN SOME ENTRY-LEVEL COURSES WHERE WE HAVE MULTIPLE SECTIONS OF, IT'S NOT MUCH OF A DECISION WHETHER OR NOT WE GO FORWARD.

UPPERRER LEVEL, WE HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT.

>> WOULD BE ADDRESSED BY PROCEDURE.

>> WE HAVE THE PROCEDURES TO ALLOW SECTIONS TO BE ADDED EVEN IF THEY ARE NOT FULL OR NOT --

>> SO THE ACTUAL LANGUAGE OF THE PROCEDURE HASN'T BEEN DEVELOPED AS OF YET BUT THAT IS THE IDEA.

WE HAVE EXCEPTIONS IN PLACE LIKE FOR THE ONES IDENTIFIED.

>> AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, WE'RE LOOKING AT FALL 2020 WHEN THESE WOULD BE EFFECTIVE.

AND THEN ALSO REFERENCED THE PROCESS IN WHICH WE WILL ORGANIZE AROUND EACH OF THESE ITEMS IN THE WAY OF HAVING TASK FORCES AND COMMITTEES AND OVERALL STRUCTURE TO SUPPORT THIS WORK.

SO AGAIN, THERE IS SOME QUICK SHORT RUN ACTIVITIES.

AND THEN SOME OTHERS THAT ARE GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME OVER THIS NEXT YEAR.

BUT CERTAINLY, YOU CAN SEE THE ORGANIZATION AROUND THIS.

AND THEN ON THE NEXT SLIDE GETS INTO --

>> MANY OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE RAISED TODAY POINT TO THE COMPLEXITIES OF THE WORKING GROUPS AND WHY IT TAKES A LOT OF ENGAGEMENT.

>> YEAH, AND MANY OF THE QUESTIONS THAT HAVE COME UP THROUGH THE FORUMS ND QUESTIONS FROM FACULTY AND OTHERS HAVE BEEN SIMILAR QUESTIONS OF OKAY, YOU KNOW, WHEN DO WE GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE'LL HAVE DETAIL.

AND THAT IS WHAT THIS STRUCTURE IS REALLY DESIGNED TO FOCUS ON.

IT WILL BE INTENSE WORK WE'LL BEGIN TO ORGANIZE OVER THE SUMMER AND HIT THE GROUND ON THE FALL.

BUT TAKING INPUT AND RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE FACULTY, THE PRESIDENTS, THE VICE PRESIDENTS, AND HOW TO STRUCTURE AND ORGANIZE THE INDIVIDUALS THAT WILL COMPRISE THESE GROUPS.

YES, SIR.

>> THE TRANSCRIPTS FOR CREDIT POLICY IS THAT PART OF THIS? ARE WE GOING TO HEAR ABOUT THE SEPARATELY LATER? OKAY.

>> CHAIR D. FLORES: THE TITLE ON THIS LIDE HAS A GRAMMATICAL ERROR.

AS YOU BEING THE INSTRUCTIONAL LINE OF SUPERVISORS, HOW DO WE GET TO KNOW WHAT THESE THINGS ARE?

>> THAT'S WHAT THE FACULTY SAID [INDISCERNIBLE]

>> WANT TODAY EMPHASIZE IN RECENT YEARS WE NEED TO BE MORE CONSISTENT HOW ESPECIALLY THE TEAMS ARE TRAINED AND WHEN THEY ARE ON BOARDED.

[INDISCERNIBLE] UNIVERSAL APPROACH TO EDUCATING HOW EXACTLY THIS SHOULD BE PARSED OUT.

>> AND OUT OF FAIRNESS TO THEM, WE WEREN'T ALWAYS CLEAR AND SOMETIMES WE WERE INCONSISTENT IN HOW WE WERE IMPLEMENTING THINGS.

>> LAST SLIDE BUT CERTAINLY NOT LEAST IN ANY FORM OF FASHION IS THE INANCIAL IMPACT OF DOING THIS.

AND AS WE HAVE TALKED PREVIOUSLY TO BRING EQUITY AROUND SOME OF THESE ITEMS, THERE IS AN ASSOCIATED COST IN DOING THAT.

AND THAT IS WHAT THESE ESTIMATES

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LOOK AT.

WORKING WITH THE P.C.G. TEAM AND JOHN AND TISKA AND THE FINANCE TEAM.

THIS IS WHAT WE WILL HAVE TO BE FACTORING IN AND PLANNING FROM THE BUDGETARY STANDPOINT OVER THIS NEXT YEAR.

AGAIN, THIS WOULD INFLUENCE AND IMPACT OUR 2021 BUDGET.

>> NO IMPACT FOR THE COMING BUDGET DELIBERATION, RIGHT?

>> I ILL SAY THAT.

AND OUR C.F.O. WILL --

>> I DON'T THINK O.

BUT WE WILL, UNLESS IT'S JUST PREPARING DOWN THE ROAD, WE MENTIONED PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT AND OTHER THINGS WE WOULD NEED TO PREPARE FOR.

THIS IS NOT SIMPLY WAIT FOR THE POLICIES TO GO INTO AFFECT.

THERE IS WORK THAT WILL GO OPAHONAHEAD OF TIME.

>> DEAN'S SCHOOL AND PROFESSIONAL TRAINING THAT WE'LL BE ROLES OUT.

WE NEED THE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES IN PLACE.

WE'LL WORK ON THAT IN THE COMING YEAR.

I DON'T WANT TO SUGGEST WE'RE WAITING UNTIL 2020.

WE'RE ALREADY DEVELOPING THAT.

>> THANKS FOR THE FEEDBACK AND INCUMBENT.

WE'LL CONTINUE TO TAKE THAT IS -- INPUT.

FOR FINAL READING.

>> MAY A MAKE A QUICK STATEMENT? OBVIOUSLY, IT'S SOMEWHAT UNUSUAL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE A QUICK STATEMENT.

I THINK WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THIS KIND OF DIALOGUE TO HAPPEN WITH THE FACULTY MIGHT BE INVOLVED AS WELL LEADERSHIP FROM OTHER GROUPS.

I ANT TO MAKE CLEAR MY PARTICIPATION DOESN'T IMPLY 100% ENDORSEMENT OF THE POLICIES BY FACULTY.

FACULTY, NUMEROUS FACULTY HAVE DEEP CONCERNS AND QUESTIONS ABOUT THE DRAFT POLICIES.

BUT FACULTY COUNCIL IS CONFIDENT THE PLANNED PROCESS AND TASK FORCE AND OMMITTEES, AND TOWARDS THE END OF THE PRESENTATION, WE'LL BE ABLE TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS IN MUTUALLY AGREEABLE WAYS, BY PROVIDING THE OPPORTUNITY FOR BROAD AND SUBSTANTIAL FACULTY FEEDBACK.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU FOR THAT AND FOR COMING TODAY.

AND THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

THIS IS FIRST READING.

>> IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE CONTACT US.

>> THANK YOU.

>> M. BRAVO: I BELIEVE THAT IS ALL WE HAVE FOR HE EDUCATION AND

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