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>> M. BRAVO: THIS OPEN MEETING THIS OPEN MEETING OF THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES IS AUTHORIZED IN ACCORDANCE WITH TEXAS GOVERNMEN CODE 551.001 THROUGH 551.146.

VERIFICATION OF NOTICE OF MEETING AND AGENDA ARE ON FILE IN THE OFFICE OF THE CHANCELLOR PER TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 551.1 THIS MEETING IS BEING BROADCAST OVER THE INTERNET IN THE MANNER PRESCRIBED BY TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 551.128. CHANCELLOR? MADAM

[1. Certification of Notice Posted for the Meeting]

CHAIR, I CERTIFY THAT THE NOTICE FOR THIS MEETING WAS POSTED ACCORDING TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT

[A. HVAC Focused Expansion Presenter: Joseph Seabrooks]

CODE 551.054.

>> M. BRAVO: WE'LL BEGIN THE MEETING WITH A PRESENTATION.

ON HVAC FOCUSED EXPANSION BY DR. SEABROOKS. OUR HVAC.

>> PRESENTER: GOOD AFTERNOON.

AS MEMBERS OF THE TEAM MAKE IT UP HERE.

I WANT TO INTRODUCE THEM.

VICE PRESIDENT OF INSTRUCTION.

MR. LOW, OUR VICE PRESIDENT FOR BUSINESS SERVICES.

PAT DAVIS OUR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR ADVANCEMENT.

AND I'M JOE.

AND ALSO WANT TO RECOGNIZE REALLY THE TRUE BRAINS BEHIND THIS OPERATION, RUBEN JOHNSON.

AND OUR INCREDIBLE FACULTY, MR. CHRIS GILL CUT.

THEY HAVE BEEN -- GETTING US PREPARED FOR NEW POSSIBILITIES.

AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.

WE APPRECIATE YOU HEARING US OUT.

I WANT TO DO A QUICK RECAP.

LAST TIME BACK IN NOVEMBER, WE SHARED WITH YOU THE NEED TO CONSIDER EXAMINATION OF OUR HVAC PROGRAM.

THE MEDIUM INCOME, THE NUMBER OF JOBS IN 2017 AND THE PROJECTED GROWTH RATE IS APPROACHING 29%.

IN OUR STATE IT'S PROJECTED WE WILL NEED OVER 2100 MORE JOBS TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THE STATE OF TEXAS.

I WANT TO ALSO SHARE WITH THE LEADERSHIP OF MARY BRUMBACH SHE PUT TOGETHER A PLANNING SESSION INCLUDING EASTFIELD AND NORTH LAKE AND WE GOT BACK FROM THEM.

THOSE ARE THE NINE EMPLOYEES WHO WERE PRESENT AND WE GOT FEEDBACK ON THE HARDEST POSITIONS TO FILL, WHAT THEIR PRIORITIES ARE.

AND BETWEEN EASTFIELD AND CEDAR VALLEY WHO ARE THE TWO PROGRAMS OUT OF THE THREE WHO HAVE A PROGRAM OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, THE NORTH LAKE PROGRAM IS FOR INCUMBENT WORKERS.

IN 2016, 2017 WE HAD 144 GRADUATES BETWEEN THE TWO OF US BUT THE DEMAND AT THE YEAR WAS ALMOST 1900 POSITIONS.

AND SO ON NOVEMBER 6, WE HAD SOME SPECIFIC DELIVERABLES WE WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU TODAY.

WE ASKED IN COLLABORATION WITH DISTRICT FACILITIES, WE ASKED STANTEC, THE FIRM WHO CONDUCTED THE FEASIBILITY STUDY TO LOOK AT OUR PROJECT THROUGH THE LENS OF THE EDUCATIONAL MASTER PLAN.

AND SO FOCUS THE SIGNATURE OR THE FEASIBILITY STUDY LENS THEY LOOKED AT AND MADE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR.

FOR THE PURPOSE OF TODAY WE'LL SHARE THE FOCUSED RECOMMENDATION BECAUSE IT'S BEST ALIGNED WHAT WE THINK IS THE BEST ROUTE FOR THE DISTRICT.

WE ANT A QUICK UPDATE ON OUR PURSUIT OF PUBLIC FUNDING AND SHARE WITH YOU JUST A SAMPLE OF PROTOTYPE, WORKING WITH THE FOUNDATION AND NORTH LAKE AND OTHERS WHAT THE POTENTIAL ASK WILL BE FOR THE PRIVATE SECTOR.

AND THEN PRESENT TO YOU POTENTIAL NEXT STEPS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

OUR CURRENT SPACE IS ACTUALLY A FANTASTIC SPACE.

THE BENEFITS, THE FACILITY WAS BROUGHT ONLINE IN 2009.

IT'S IN GOOD CONDITION.

THE DESIGN, ORIGINAL DESIGN ALLOWS US TO RECONFIGURE SPACE.

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WE HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF CLASSROOM SPACE.

THERE IS SUFFICIENT RESIDENTIAL HVAC LAB SPACES.

MOVING TOWARDS A COMMERCIAL AND CONTROL PROGRAMS WOULD NOT SACRIFICE THE TRADITION WE HAVE HAD WITH RESIDENTIAL.

WE COULD EXPAND TO THE NORTHWEST, THE TOP RIGHT-HAND CORNER.

SOME OF OUR CHALLENGES THOUGH, WE OUR LAYOUT IS CURRENTLY INEFFICIENTLY LAID OUT.

WE HAVE LOT OF EQUIPMENT BUT HAVEN'T MAXIMIZED THE SPACE.

IF WE WERE TO MOVE FORWARD, THE REQUIRES ADDITIONAL ELECTRICAL SERVICES.

THERE IS NO VISIBILITY INTO THE LABS.

THERE IS NO DAYLIGHT INTO THE SPACE.

AND SO WE HADN'T CREATED THE MOST IDEAL LEARNING ENVIRONMENT WITH OUR CURRENT SPACE.

HOWEVER, IN THIS PLAN, YOU WILL SEE THAT FOCUSED ON UPDATING THE RESIDENTIAL LAB, CREATING A NEW COMMERCIAL LAB WITH A NEW CONTROLS LAB.

AND THEN TO REALLY CREATE SOME SPACE DEDICATED FOR OUR EXISTING SIMULATORS.

BUT WHAT IS INTERESTING IS WE HAVE CREATED OR PROPOSING THE SHARED WORK SPACE ON THE FLOOR FOR BOTH PROGRAMS TO LEVERAGE.

THERE IS ON THE BOTTOM KIND OF LEFT-HAND CORNER IS WHAT WE CALL THE GREAT OUTDOORS, WHICH BASICALLY SIMULATES THE EQUIPMENT THAT NEEDS TO BE OUTDOORS TO OPERATE.

BUT WE NEED TO PARTIALLY COVER THAT BECAUSE WE WANT TO PROTECT THOSE INVESTMENTS FROM THE ELEMENTS.

THE BENEFITS FROM THIS PARTICULAR PROPOSAL IS THAT WE'RE GAINING SOME EFFICIENCIES, MAJOR EFFICIENCIES WITH EXISTING SPACE.

WE WILL AMPLY CENTRALIZE OR STORAGE SPACE TO CREATE SOME EFFICIENCIES.

AND WE WILL HOPEFULLY BE ABLE TO CREATE VISIBILITY FROM THE LOBBY TO CREATE A SHOWCASED ENVIRONMENT FOR VISITORS, PERSPECTIVE STUDENTS TO SEE WHAT IS HAPPENING THERE.

AND THEN, WHAT IS INTERESTING IF WE'RE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD, WE DO NOT HAVE TO, WE WOULD NOT HAVE TO SHUT THE PROGRAM DOWN TO PROVIDE THESE RENOVATIONS.

WE COULD KEEP MOVING ON THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE.

WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE POTENTIALLY IS WHAT YOU SEE HIGHLIGHTED IN BLUE IS THE RESIDENTIAL SPACE AND THE GREAT OUTDOORS SPACE AND THE COVERED AREAS.

THIS IS THE NEW CONFIGURATION TO GAIN MORE EFFICIENCIES.

IT WILL BE ADJACENT TO THE SHARED SPACE WHICH IS RIGHT THERE TO MY RIGHT OF IT.

THE SERVICE YARD ARE, PARTIALLY COVERED TO PROTECT THE OUTSIDE EQUIPMENT AND THOSE INVESTMENTS.

ON THE COMMERCIAL LAB YOU CAN SEE IT'S ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE SHARED SPACE.

WE WOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BRING IN MULTIPLE SIZE UNITS FOR THE EQUIPMENT, WE COULD ACCOMMODATE BOILERS AND CHILLERS.

AND ADJACENT TO THE WORK AREA SIMULATION TRAINERS, THERE WILL BE VISIBILITY FROM OUTSIDE AGAIN TO GET PEOPLE HAVING A MORE ACCURATE ASSESSMENT OF WHAT THE WORK LOOKS LIKE.

AND THE CONTROLS LABS, A MIX OF HVAC FAN UNITS, CONTROL EQUIPMENT, CONTROL COMPUTERS.

AGAIN, ADJACENT TO THE SIMULATORS.

FOLKS OULD HAVE ACCESS TO THE CLASSROOM, THE COMMERCIAL CLASSROOM, AND CONTROLS CLASSROOM.

NEAR THE FRONT OF THE LAB, WE COULD SHOWCASE OUR EQUIPMENT FROM THE LOBBY.

IF YOU HAVE BEEN IN THERE IT'S BEAUTIFUL.

THE CLASSROOMS, THE FOUR CLASSROOMS TWO FOR THE RESIDENTIAL WHICH IS HIGHLIGHTED THE BLUE, THE CONTROLS CLASSROOMS TO THE TOP RIGHT.

THE SMALLER CLASSROOMS WOULD NEED TO BE DESIGNED IN BLUE TO ACCOMMODATE THE NEED FOR THE EQUIPMENT.

THE BOTTOM PICTURE THAT YOU SEE IS OUR FANTASY OF WHAT THE CLASSROOM COULD LOOK LIKE IF WE HAD WINDOWS CUT INTO IT SO FOLKS CAN SEE THE EDUCATION THAT IS HAPPENING.

THE CONTROLS CLASSROOM WOULD BE OPEN, WHICH IS TO THE TOP RIGHT.

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AGAIN, FOLKS CAN SEE THROUGH AND SEE ALL OF THAT EQUIPMENT AND HELP PEOPLE HAVE DEMONSTRATIONS OR SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING.

AND AME THING WITH THE LOBBY VIEW.

SO FOLKS CAN SEE THE WORK THAT IS OCCURRING.

IF WE WERE TO MOVE FORWARD THERE ARE TWO OPTIONS ON HOW TO ACCOMPLISH IT.

THE FIRST PTION WOULD BE TO GET IN GEAR AND THIS SUMMER START TO UPDATE THE CLASSROOMS, THE LAB CLASSROOMS, RESIDENTIAL, RECONFIGURE, STORAGE, A GREAT EXPANSION OUTDOORS, THE COVER NEEDS.

AND THEN TO BEGIN SOME OF THE COMMERCIAL SIMULATION AND CONTROLS RENOVATIONS.

ONCE THE FALL SEMESTER STARTS, WE OULD HAVE INSTRUCTION OCCUR IN THE REDESIGN CLASSROOMS AND THE REDESIGN LAB FOR THE RESIDENTIAL PROGRAM AND SHUT DOWN THE FAR RIGHT-HAND SIDE TO GET THAT REDESIGNED FOR THE REST OF THE PROGRAM.

BEST CASE SCENARIO, WITH THIS TYPE OF OPTION YOU COULD START THE COMMERCIAL SIDE OF THE CURRICULUM SPRING 2020.

ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE WITH OPTION B, AND THAT IS HAVING THE RESIDENTIAL PROGRAM OPERATE IN ITS EXISTING SPACE TO THE FAR RIGHT.

WHILE WE SHUT DOWN ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE, TO ENOVATE THE CLASSROOMS AND THOSE AREAS WE TALKED ABOUT, THE GREAT OUTDOORS, CONSTRUCTION COVERED AREA.

AND THEN ONCE SPRING SEMESTER STARTED WE COULD PUT THE PROGRAM IN THE NEWLY DESIGNED RESIDENTIAL SPACE, SHUT IT DOWN FOR THE SPRING AND BE ABLE TO OPERATE TO DO THE RENOVATIONS FOR THE REST OF THE PROGRAM, THE COMMERCIAL AND CONTROL SIDE.

THE QUESTION I KNOW VERYONE WANTS TO KNOW.

WE REALLY WANTED TO KNOW, WHAT WAS THE PRICE TAG? APPROXIMATELY, 12700 SQUARE FOOT.

LOOKING TO DO ALL THINGS DESCRIBED ABOUT $4.2 MILLION.

PRELIMINARY FUNDING RESULTS.

WE MADE A COMMITMENT WITH YOUR PERMISSION TO PURSUE POTENTIAL PUBLIC FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES.

AS A RESULT, WE HAVE SECURED $350,000 IN COMMITMENTS FROM DESOTO EDC, WHICH IS A HIGH DEMAND CONTRIBUTION THAT COMES WITH A MATCH FROM TWC.

WE CURRENTLY HAVE PROPOSALS IN THE AMOUNT OF $269,000 ROUGHLY FROM THE CITY OF DALLAS AND ALSO L CREDIT PROGRAM, GRANT PROGRAM.

WE HAVE THE POTENTIAL IF WE'RE IN A POSITION TO MOVE FORWARD, TO CONTINUE TO WORK COLLABORATIVELY ARE THE FOUND IN NORTH LAKE TO PURSUE PRIVATE INDUSTRY AND FOUNDATIONS.

AND A COUPLE OF OTHER PROGRAMS THROUGH TWC THAT POTENTIALLY WOULD BE MATCH.

AND NEXT STEPS.

WE HUMBLY AND RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOU TO CONSIDER ALLOWING US TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE DISTRICT FACILITIES MANAGEMENT TEAM TO DEVELOP AN RFP TO IDENTIFY A FIRM TO DESIGN THE PLANS.

AND ALSO, WOULD LOVE TO ASK YOU TO CONSIDER ATTENDING THE NC3'S ANNUAL LEADERSHIP SUMMIT IN KEN OSHA, WISCONSIN, I KNOW IT DOES NOT SOUND LIKE AN EXCITING PLACE.

BUT THE WORK THAT GATEWAY COLLEGE IS DOING IN NCT, I'M INVEIOUS AND TRYING TO EMULATE WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO DO.

YES, SIR?

>> S. WILLIAMS: IF EVERYTHING AS YOU PRESENTED WAS DONE AND THEN FINISHED, WHAT DOES IT BUILD US OUT TO, WHAT YEAR? ARE WE -- I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, ARE WE BUILDING ENOUGH NOW? A HOME, A BUSINESS OR WHATEVER, WE ALWAYS UNDERSPECULATE.

SO WHAT YEAR, 2029?

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2040?

>> PRESENTER: WE HAD THE CONVERSATION IN QUITE IN DEPTH.

THE REALITY IS BECAUSE OF THE HOW THE INSTRUCTION IS DESIGNED AND TO ENSURE OUR STUDENTS AND FACULTY ARE SAFE, IT'S DIFFICULT FOR US TO GO OVER THE 144 STUDENT MARK, 48 STUDENTS IN A MORNING AND AFTERNOON AND AN EVENING COHORT.

WE RECEIVED THE PROPOSAL FOR A SIGNATURE PLAN.

AND IT DIDN'T INCREASE THE CAPACITY.

AND SO WE DIDN'T FEEL IT WAS THE RESPONSIBLE THING TO DO TO ASK FOR THE HIGHER END SUPPORT WHEN WE WOULD BE CAPPED.

BUT WHAT WOULD NEED TO HAPPEN DISTRICT WIDE THROUGH THE NETWORK, IN MY CONVERSATIONS WITH PRESIDENT SLAY GO AND TEELER, THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXPAND THEIR PROGRAMS TO ENSURE WE HAVE BROADER COVERAGE IN OUR REGION.

THAT WAS A LONG RESPONSE.

HOPEFULLY IT ANSWERED THE QUESTION.

>> CHAIR D. FLORES: DID I UNDERSTAND YOU CORRECTLY OR INCORRECTLY? YOU ARE ASKING FOR HOW LONG THIS BUILDING SHOULD COVER THE NEED BEFORE WE NEED ANOTHER ITERATION, WAS THAT THE QUESTION?

>> PRESENTER: I DON'T THINK I CAN SAY THAT THIS INVESTMENT WOULD FULLY COVER OUR NEEDS.

I MEAN, THE NEED IS SO GREAT THAT I THINK WE WOULD DEFINITELY GET US MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION FAST.

BUT WE WOULD NEED THE OTHER COLLEGES TO ALSO EXPAND.

>> M. BRAVO: HOW MANY MORE STUDENTS WILL YOU BE SERVING IN ADDITION IF THIS HAPPENS?

>> PRESENTER: WE'RE SERVING ZERO ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE.

THAT IS 144 STUDENTS.

CURRENTLY 69 STUDENTS ON THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE.

AND SO WE BELIEVE WE COULD GET THAT CAPACITY UP TO 144.

SO SOME QUICK MATH, 74 STUDENT IN RESIDENTIAL AND ANOTHER 144 IN COMMERCIAL.

>> P. RITTER: YOU HAVE PLANS OR IN THE PROCESS OF EXPANDING TO CORPORATE PARTNERSHIPS, SIMILAR TO NORTH LAKE.

TO HELP MOVE SOME OF THE MEETING AND POTENTIAL FUNDING?

>> PRESENTER: YES, SIR.

I THINK WHAT WE HAVE LEARNED THROUGHOUT THE COMPRESSION PLANNING THAT DR. BRUMBACH LED US THROUGH IS THAT WE REALLY HAVE TO APPROACH A NETWORK ADVISORY COUNCIL TO INCLUDE EASTFIELD, NORTH LAKE AND CEDAR VALLEY.

BECAUSE WHAT WE CANNOT AFFORD TO DO, SHE REMIND ME OFTEN WE CANNOT BE STEPPING OVER EACH OTHER, TRYING TO SEEK SUPPORT.

IT HAS TO BE COORDINATED.

WE THINK AND KNOW SO, BUT DEPENDING ON THE NEEDS THROUGHOUT THE BETWEEN THE THREE CAMPS, WE HAVE TO DETERMINE WHO IS THE BEST ASK TO MAKE.

>> BOB FERGUSON, FORMER TRUSTEE HOSTED A MEETING.

THIS IS AN AREA OF GREAT INTEREST TO HIM AND TD INDUSTRIES, IT'S WHAT THEY DO IS COMMERCIAL HVAC.

AND THEY REACHED OUT TO OTHERS IN THE FIELD.

SO I HAVE HAD THE CONVERSATIONS AS WELL.

THIS IS AN AREA THAT GETS FOLKS EXCITED SIMPLY BECAUSE THESE ARE GREAT PAYING JOBS.

I HAD NO IDEA SOME OF THE SKILL LEVELS I THINK ON CERTAIN PIECES OF EQUIPMENT IT TAKES EIGHT YEARS TO LEARN THE ABILITY TO DO THIS.

IT'S PARTICULARLY OME OF THESE COMPLEX COMMERCIAL VENTURES AND THE PAY EXCEEDS FAR WHAT YOU ARE SHOWING HERE.

>> PRESENTER: THEN THE QUESTION LIKE WHAT SONNY SAID, IS THIS ENOUGH? WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE A THREE LANE FREEWAY ON A SIX-LANE HIGHWAY, ARE WE?

>> PRESENTER: CAN YOU DO THE MATH ON THAT?

>> PRESENTER: NO, SIR.

I WOULD SUSPECT IF YOU ARE HOLDING ME TO A RESPONSE, I WOULD SUSPECT IT'S NOT ENOUGH.

I THINK UNTIL WE CAN SEE WHERE EASTFIELD CAN GO, WE ALREADY KNOW WHERE NORTH LAKE IS HEADED.

THIS IS HOW WE CAN CONTRIBUTE TO THE PROBLEM.

I THINK EASTFIELD EXPRESSED QUITE A BIT OF NEED TO.

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SO WE'RE FULLY UP AND RUNNING IN THOSE THREE CATEGORIES, IT'S HARD TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

>> M. BRAVO: SLIDE TWO, YOU HAVE 144 GRADUATES.

IS THAT LIKE FALL AND SPRING OR SERVING 77 RESIDENTIAL --

>> PRESENTER: SO WHAT THAT REPRESENTS IS THE COMPLETERS OF BOTH OF OUR PROGRAMS AT EASTFIELD AND CEDAR VALLEY.

WHAT HAPPENS BECAUSE THE NEED IS SO GREAT ONCE STUDENTS GAIN COMPETENCIES THEY GET SNATCHED UP.

AND MANY OF THEM DON'T COME BACK TO COMPLETE BECAUSE THEY ARE HAVING TO GET TO WORK.

SO THAT NUMBER DOES NOT REPRESENT THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS THAT LEAVE EARLY WHO ENTER THE WORKFORCE.

THOSE ARE THE COMPLETERS.

>> M. BRAVO: OKAY.

>> PRESENTER: THE DIFFERENCE IS EASTFIELD IS A COMBINATION OF RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL.

OURS IS JUST RESIDENTIAL.

>> D. ZIMMERMANN: IF I MIGHT ASK ABOUT THE GREAT OUTDOORS LAB.

IS THAT THE EQUIVALENT TO SAY R AND D? YOU DROP THE TEMPERATURE TO 20 DEGREES ELOW 0 AND SEE WHAT WORKS?

>> PRESENTER: THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS, CHRIS OR AUDRA? THTHERE IS A MICROPHONE YOU HAVE TO SPEAK INTO.

I'M NOT GOING TO PRETEND TO ANSWER THAT.

>> D. ZIMMERMANN: IS THERE A REASON WE WOULD COVER THE OUT DOOR EQUIPMENT? I MEAN HE TEXT DON'T USUALLY GET TO CARRY AN UMBRELLA WITH THEM.

WHEN IT'S RAINING IT'S WET AND WHEN IT'S HOT IT'S SUNNY.

>> PRESENTER: THE COVER WAS FOR THE EQUIPMENT TO PREVENT FADING AND PRESERVE THE EQUIPMENT.

NOT FOR THE TECHNICIANS.

>> D. ZIMMERMANN: I'M SURPRISED BY THAT.

BECAUSE EQUIPMENT IS CHANGING.

I MEAN THEY RARELY IF EVER, IF YOU HAVE A FIVE-YEAR-OLD PIECE OF EQUIPMENT, AND YOU ARE TRYING TO TEACH SOMEBODY WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO BE COMING ACROSS, IF YOU ARE FIVE YEARS BEHIND ON THE NEW STUFF AND THE STUFF THEY MAYBE COMING ACROSS IS 10, 15, MAYBE EVEN 20 YEARS OLD.

>> PRESENTER: OUR INTENTIONS WITH SELECTING EQUIPMENT IS LONGEVITY OF THE EQUIPMENT.

SO THAT E'RE NOT REPLACING A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT AS REGULARLY AS YOU WOULD SAY IN A HOME.

SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO TEACH WITH OLDER EQUIPMENT.

BECAUSE THE FUNDS ARE JUST NOT AVAILABLE TO REPLACE THAT EQUIPMENT FOR INSTRUCTION.

>> D. ZIMMERMANN: DO WE NOT HAVE -- I WOULD THINK THE INDUSTRY WOULD JUMP AT THE CHANCE OF PEOPLE TO LEARN ON THEIR EQUIPMENT, YES?

>> PRESENTER: WE'LL GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY AS SOON AS WE'RE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD.

>> D. ZIMMERMANN: TO ME I THINK THE INDUSTRY WOULD JUST -- I MEAN TRANE, FROM JOHNSON CONTROLS, I WOULD LIKE TO THINK THEY WOULD JUMP AT THE CHANCE TO HAVE OUR PEOPLE.

BECAUSE SO MANY TIMES IF THAT'S WHAT YOU LEARN ON, THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO WORK ON.

BECAUSE YOU KNOW THAT EQUIPMENT.

SO IF WE GAVE THEM THE CHANCE TO BE FRONT ROW, THEN I WOULD LIKE TO THINK THAT WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO USE COVERED EQUIPMENT BECAUSE WE COULD MOVE IT OUT MORE OFTEN.

THE INNOVATIONS THEY ARE COMING THROUGH WITH.

>> PRESENTER: THE EQUIPMENT THAT IS OUTSIDE IS BASIC EQUIPMENT, COOLING TIRE EQUIPMENT. AND THAT TYPE OF EQUIPMENT.

NOW, THE INDOOR EQUIPMENT FOR THE CONTROLS LAB I'M HOPING SOME OF THE CONTROL COMPANIES WILL COME IN AND HELP US KEEP THAT EQUIPMENT UP TO DATE BECAUSE IT HANGES.

IT'S ALMOST LIKE THE IPHONE.

>> D. ZIMMERMANN: A THERMOSTAT.

>> PRESENTER: THEY CHANGE SO FREQUENTLY.

IF YOU PURCHASE ONE SIX MONTHS AGO, IT'S ALREADY OUTDATED BEFORE YOU GET IT ON THE WALL.

AND I AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT.

>> D. ZIMMERMANN: YEAH.

>> PRESENTER: BUT HOPEFULLY WE CAN TRACK SOME OF THOSE COMPANIES TO COME IN AND HELP US TO KEEP THIS EQUIPMENT UP TO DATE.

BECAUSE THAT IS OUR PLAN TO TRAIN THESE GUYS TO A POINT WHERE THEY CAN GO INTO INDUSTRY.

NOW WE TRAIN THEM AS RESIDENTIAL

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TECHNICIANS, WHICH IS THE INDUSTRY IS NOT LOOKING FOR.

THEY ARE LOOKING FOR TECHNICIANS THAT CAN COME IN AT THE COMMERCIAL LEVEL.

SADLY WE CAN'T TEACH THEM 100%, ONLY SEG SEGMENTS, A PORTION OF IT.

BUT THE LEARNING CURVE ONCE THEY GET THE FUNDAMENTALS IS STEEP.

THE FIRST YEAR THEY WILL LEARN MORE THAN THEY COULD EVER IMAGINE.

>> D. ZIMMERMANN: THANK YOU.

OPTION A AND B.

>> M. BRAVO: OPTION A WOULD BE STARTING PRETTY FAST.

WE ANTICIPATE A PROPOSAL OMING FORWARD IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS?

>> PRESENTER: YES, WITH YOUR SUPPORT.

YES.

>> M. BRAVO: QUESTIONS?

>> D. ZIMMERMANN: IF WE GO WITH THE IDEA OF CLOSING THE ENTIRE ONE COLLEGE DOWN, DO WE HAVE THE SPACE AT THE OTHER COLLEGES TO KIND OF TAKE UP THE SLACK? HOW WOULD WE DO THAT? YEAH.

>> PRESENTER: WOULD YOU MIND TAKING THAT FOR ME? TEAM EFFORT.

>> PRESENTER: CURRENTLY WE DON'T OFF THE RESIDENTIAL VAC IN THE SUMMER.

WE OFFER A CERTIFICATE THROUGH EPA.

AND SO IT WOULD NOT BE A DISRUPTION FOR OUR CURRENT RESIDENTIAL.

>> D. ZIMMERMANN: YOU WOULDN'T NEED TO CLOSE BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT OPEN ANYWAY?

>> PRESENTER: EXACTLY.

>> D. ZIMMERMANN: OH, OKAY.

THAT WAS SORT OF MISLEADING IN THE PRESENTATION, WASN'T IT? OKAY.

IF YOU DON'T HAVE TO CLOSE BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT OPEN.

WELL, THAT TAKES CARE OF THAT.

>> PRESENTER: PHYSICALLY CLOSE THE AREA TO WORK ON IS WHAT I IMAGINE YOU MEANT.

>> PRESENTER: YES.

WE OFTEN THAT EPA CERTIFICATION BUT THAT CAN BE LOCATED.

>> D. ZIMMERMANN: YEAH.

>> P. RITTER: WHEN YOU HAVE 144 STUDENTS WILL HAVE THE 69, 70 RESIDENTIAL? YOU WILL TAKE THE SAME SPACE AND TRIPLE THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS IN IT?

>> PRESENTER: THAT IS CORRECT.

HOW IT WORKS AS I UNDERSTAND, KEEP ME HONEST, AUDRA, YOU ARE READY TO FOR COMMERCIAL.

WE BELIEVE STRONGLY THAT THIS COMMERCIAL WILL BE THE DRAW TO SHORE UP.

>> P. RITTER: MAKES SENSE.

>> M. BRAVO: THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> PRESENTER: THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

[B. Legislative Update Presenters: Isaac Faz, Justin Lonon]

>> M. BRAVO: THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

AND NOW WE'LL HAVE THE LEGISLATIVE UPDATE BY JUSTIN LONON AND ISSAC FAZ.

>> PRESENTER: GOOD AFTERNOON.

>> PRESENTER: GOOD AFTERNOON.

>> PRESENTER: ISSAC IS GOING TO REPEAT EVERYTHING I SAY.

>> PRESENTER: MAKE IT MORE INTERESTING.

>> PRESENTER: TIS THE SEASON.

LEGISLATIVE AGENDA IN FULL SWING.

ISSAC IS PLAYING OFFENSE AND DEFENSE ON A REGULAR BASIS THESE DAYS.

HIM AND CHANCELLOR ARE SPENDING A GREAT DEAL OF TIME IN AUSTIN.

THERE IS A NUMBER OF UPDATES ON BILLS AND CHANGES WITHIN THE LEGISLATIVE DELEGATION OR COMPLETES AGENDA.

ISSAC IS GOING TO GIVE A QUICK UPDATE AND HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

>> PRESENTER: THANK OU, CHAIR AND TRUSTEES FOR INVITING ME TO BE HERE.

I THINK LAST TIME I WAS OPERATING ON WARP SPEED.

WE HAD FIVE MINUTES.

I'LL TRY TO SLOW OWN THIS IME AND HAVE MORE OF A CONVERSATION WITH EVERYONE.

WE'RE GOING TO START ON THE 86TH LEGISLATURE.

WHEN WE LAST SPOKE WE KNEW WHO WAS GOING TO BE THE NEXT SPEAKER.

SPEAKER BONNEN SAID HE HAD HE VOTES SO IT BECAME OFFICIAL.

WE WOULD HAVE COMPLETELY NEW CHAIRMAN IN SENATE AND HIGHER EDLER POSITIONS.

WE HAVE SENATOR CREIGHTON, AND CHRIS TURNER WHO IS THE CHAIR ON IT HOUSE HIGHER EDUCATION COMMITTEE.

THE GOOD NEWS, EVEN THOUGH A

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CHANGE IN LEADERSHIP, SENATOR WEST IS STILL CHAIR.

ON THE HOUSE SIDE WE HAVE VICE CHAIR STUCKY, WHO IS FROM DENTON.

THE GOOD WORK WE DO HERE IS SHARED SORT OF NORTH TEXAS AND THE COUNTY SURROUNDING DALLAS COUNTY.

WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVE ERIC JOHNSON AND CHEN-BUTTON.

WE HAVE DALLAS COUNTY REPRESENTATION ON THE HOUSE AS WELL.

ON THE SENATE FINANCE AND HOUSE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE, SENATOR NELSON IS THE CHAIR.

SHE WAS HERE LAST TIME.

SENATOR WEST ON FINANCE.

SENATOR HANCOCK ON FINANCE.

HIS DISTRICT TOUCHES A LITTLE BIT OF DALLAS COUNTY.

NORTH LAKE IS IN HIS DISTRICT.

WE'RE FORTUNATE TO HAVE REPRESENTATION, WE HAVE TONI ROSE FROM DALLAS.

REPRESENTATIVE SHERMAN, A FIRST TIME MEMBER ON APPROPRIATIONS AND ON ARTICLE 3 WHICH FOCUSES ON HIGHER EDUCATION FUNDING.

REPRESENTATIVE TURNER IS ALSO ON APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE.

SO WE'RE GOING TO DIVE INTO LEGISLATIVE ISSUES.

AND SORT OF BEFORE I GET STARTED I WANT TO SHARE THAT THE DEADLINE IS FRIDAY.

ALL THE BILLS HAVE TO BE FILED BY FRIDAY.

I CHECKED AT 2:30, 4701 SENATE AND HOUSE BILLS FILED.

WE EXPECT MAYBE THEY WILL GET TO 5,000 BY FRIDAY.

WE KNOW FOR A FACT THERE ARE A COUPLE OF BILLS WE'RE KEEPING AN EYE ON.

WE'RE TRACK TRACKING 200 TO 250 BILLS THAT IMPACT US.

LET ME TALK ABOUT HIGHER EDUCATION, SENATE BILL AND HB 1, THE BUDGET BILLS.

THIS YEAR THE HOUSE WILL TAKE THE LEAD ON THE BUDGET.

EVERY SESSION IT SEEMS IT COMES TO THE WIRE FOR THEM TO HAMMER OUT AN AGREEMENT.

THEY GO BACK AND FORTH, CONFERENCE COMMITTEE.

WE ALSO KNOW THE BUDGET CURRENTLY HAS ABOUT $1.7 BILLION FOR 2021.

AND I PUT ADDITIONAL FUNDING.

I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT.

>> S. WILLIAMS: IF YOU WANT THE ANNUAL, CUT IT IN HALF.

>> PRESENTER: THE SESSION OPERATES, THEY HAVE A BIENNIUM BUDGET FOR TWO YEARS CYCLE.

THAT IS WHERE SB AND HB1 ARE NOW.

IF THERE AREN'T QUESTIONS I'LL MOVE ON.

>> D. ZIMMERMANN: THE SENATE PASSED THE $5,000 TEACHER INCREASE IN PAY WITH ANOTHER 5,000 FOR THE NEXT FOLLOWING YEAR.

AT THIS POINT, THEY WERE SAYING THAT WAS ENTIRELY TOO GENEROUS, THAT WAS GOING TO EMPTY A LOT OF COFFERS.

THAT LEAVES LITTLE FOR THEM TO PLAY WITH AT ALL.

>> PRESENTER: CORRECT.

THEY DID PASS IT ON THE SENATE SIDE.

BONNEN BELIEVES SCHOOL DISTRICTS SHOULD DO WHAT HEY CAN WITH THE FUNDING THEY RECEIVE.

HE'S NOT COMPLETELY ON BOARD HAVING THE EXTRA DOLLARS GO SPECIFICALLY TO TEACHERS.

IT'S A DIFFERENT CONVERSATION ON THE HOUSE SIDE.

EVEN IF T'S SOMETHING WE'RE SUPPORTING ON A CERTAIN BILL IF IT'S FILED IN THE HOUSE, IT MAY NOT BE THE SAME IN THE SENATE.

IT WAS FILED IN THE SENATE CHAMBER BUT IT MAY NOT MAKE IT IN THE SAME VERSION ON THE HOUSE.

>> D. ZIMMERMANN: TOO MUCH GENEROSITY AND WE MIGHT NOT GET WHAT WE'RE EXPECTING.

>> PRESENTER: SENATOR NELSON AMENDED HER BILL TO INCLUDE LIBRARIANS.

SBDC.

LAST SESSION THEY WERE ZEROED ON THE SENATE BUDGET.

THIS YEAR IT'S IN THE HOUSE AND SENATE BUDGET.

I PUT THE PER YEAR AT 1.6 MILLION SO IT'S A LITTLE OVER 3 MILLION FOR THE BIENNIUM, WHICH IS GOOD NEWS FOR US.

BECAUSE WE HOST THE SBDC HERE, ONLY 40 OFFICES IN THE STATE OF TEXAS.

OUR OFFICES DO A GREAT JOB WITH SMALL BUSINESSES, HELPING THEM WITH LOANS AND CREATE JOBS: I HAVE A 2018 IMPACT REPORT TALKING ABOUT THE 2734 JOBS CREATED BY SBDC.

I THINK THERE IS A LOT OF GOOD WORK FOR SBDC.

WE HAVE TO KEEP TALKING ABOUT SBDC.

SOMETHING WE'LL CONTINUE TO MONITOR AS WELL.

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>> CHAIR D. FLORES: HOW MUCH FUNDING DO WE HAVE IN THIS CURRENT BIENNIUM FOR THE SBDC?

>> PRESENTER: IT'S THE SAME.

IT'S FLAT.

THE SAME AMOUNT.

>> PRESENTER: LAST SESSION WE CUT WERE 10%, TO POINT THAT OUT, THAT IS ACTUALLY YOU DOUBLE THE AMOUNT BECAUSE WE GET A MATCHING FEDERAL FOR EVERY DOLLAR THE STATE PUTS IN WE GET A DOLLAR FROM THE FEDS.

WHEN THEY CUT THE STATE, THEY CUT THE FEDERAL DOLLARS AT THE SAME TIME.

IT'S NET NEUTRAL TO THE STATE OF TEXAS.

WE COULD BE AS HIGH AS -- CONSIDERABLY HIGHER.

>> CHAIR D. FLORES: THE 1.6 MILLION IS TO DCCCD.

>> PRESENTER: YES.

>> CHAIR D. FLORES: IS IT STILL SPECIAL ITEM FUNDING?

>> PRESENTER: IT IS, ARTICLE 3 AND HIGHER EDUCATION.

AND THAT'S A CONVERSATION WE'RE CONTINUING TO HAVE WITH LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR AND GOVERNOR'S OFFICE AS WELL.

>> CHAIR D. FLORES: TO MOVE IT INTO THE OVERNOR'S BUDGET?

>> PRESENTER: WE'RE LOOKING AT THE LAST CALL WITH THE GOVERNOR'S FFICE THE TEXAS WORKFORCE COMMISSION.

>> PRESENTER: ARTICLE 7.

SHIFT --

>> PRESENTER: SOMEONE WHO WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE.

THERE IS NO OVERSIGHT RESPONSIBILITY TO WHEREVER IT IS HOUSED.

THERE IS NO WORK FOR THEM TO DO BECAUSE FEDERAL LAWS SAYS IT CAN BE RUN THROUGH INSTITUTIONS OF HIGHER EDUCATION.

WE NEED AN AGENCY SO IT'S NOT HANGING OUT THERE TO BE CUT WITHOUT ANYONE UNDERSTANDING WHY OR WHAT IT DOES.

>> CHAIR D. FLORES: WE MET WITH THE NEWEST --

>> PRESENTER: COMMISSIONER ALONG WITH ONE OF THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS AS WELL AND STAFF WHO ARE RECEPTIVE TO RECEIVING IT IF THAT'S WHAT THE DECISION IS.

>> CHANCELLOR MAY: I WANT TO JUMP BACK TO HOUSE BILL 1.

YOU RE CORRECT, THERE IS SO MUCH NEW MONEY TO WORK WITH, I THINK ABOUT $9 BILLION WHICH SOUNDS LIKE A LOT.

SOME OF TALK AS WE GET INTO EVEN THE SENATE BILL 2, WITH THE PROPERTY TAX RELIEF, IF THEY DO WHAT THEY ARE PROPOSING THAT WOULD ELIMINATE 5 BILLION OF THAT TO REFUND BACK TO PUBLIC SCHOOLS FOR THE AMOUNT THEY ARE TAKING AWAY.

IT'S NOT GOING TO TAKE MUCH TO EAT THROUGH ALL THOSE DOLLARS.

AND THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF THE WITHHOLD UP.

THAT'S WHY YOU ARE NOT -- AND I KNOW YOU ARE GETTING TO THAT NEXT.

THERE IS ALSO WORRY, A PRIORITY IS K12 AND I THINK THAT'S THE REASON WHY THEY WENT AHEAD IN THE SENATE BILL VERSION OF THE BILL STUCK IN THE PAY RAISE IN CASE SOMETHING GOES WRONG WITH HE WORK THAT IS BEING DONE TO SUPPORT PUBLIC EDUCATION.

>> PRESENTER: YEP.

SO THAT'S SMALL BUSINESSES.

I'M GOING TO MOVE TO PROPERTY TAX CAP OR GET YOUR POPCORN READY.

THERE IS A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS, MOVEMENTS THINGS GOING ON IN THE PROPERTY TAX CAP.

TO SORT OF GIVE YOU THE BIG OVERVIEW HERE.

THE BUILD REALLY IS IN L LIMBO ON THE SENATE SIDE AT 2.5%.

THE SENATE HASN'T BEEN BROUGHT TO THE CHAMBER AS OF YET.

AND THE CONVERSATION IS THERE IS NO AGREEMENT AMONG SENATORS ON A 2.5% CAP.

THEY NEED 19 MEMBERS TO BRING IT TO THE FLOOR AND HAVE 19 VOTES ESSENTIALLY.

THAT IS STUCK.

THE TWIST IS T NORMALLY THEY WOULD SEND IT BACK TO COMMITTEE.

THEY DON'T HAVE TO -- THAT'S WHY I PUT IT'S CURRENTLY IN LIMBO.

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

I THINK THE SENATE IS GOING TO MAKE ATTENTION TO THE HOUSE AND SEE HOW FAST OR SLOW THE HOUSE MOVES AND MAKE AN ADJUSTMENT I TRY TO CUT DEALS AS SOON AS BILLS HIT THE FLOOR TO GET THE VOTES THEY NEED TO THE CHAMBER OR TAKE BACK TO COMMITTEE TO ADJUST THE .5% CAP.

THAT APPEARS TO BE THE ISSUE.

WHETHER IT'S DALLAS MORNING NEWS ABOUT MEMBERS ARE NOT HAPPY ABOUT THAT.

NOW YOU SEE WITH THE LEADERSHIP ON THE SENATE AND HOUSE, IT MAY NOT END UP AT THE FINAL NUMBER.

THERE IS DIFFERENT CONVERSATIONS, HB2, THE IDENTICAL VERSION THIS WEDNESDAY.

THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT.

THE CHAIRMAN HAD THE SAME CONVERSATION POINTS AND ON THE RECORD SAYING 2.5 IS NOT WHERE WE'RE GOING TO END UP.

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A LOT OF PUSHBACK FROM COUNTIES AND CITIES.

TO BE FRANK, THERE IS OUR NATURAL SORT OF LLIES ALSO AGAINST THIS BILL.

SO THERE IS SO MANY DIFFERENT CONVERSATIONS GOING ON.

IIT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHERE WE END UP.

HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST IF 2.5 HAD BEEN IN EFFECT WE WOULD HAVE LOST $24 MILLION, 2016, 17 AND 18.

>> WHERE DOES IT STAND WITH THE HOUSE?

>> PRESENTER: 2.5.

THEY HAVE IT THERE.

>> CHANCELLOR MAY: THAT'S NOT THE ONLY ISSUE WITH IT.

YOU HAVE LOCAL CONTROL VERSUS STATES CONTROL.

WHO SHOULD MAKE THE DECISION.

THAT IS THE BIGGER BATTLE GOING ON.

THE LEGISLATURE OR ARE WE GOING TO CONTINUE ALLOW THIS BOARD AND OTHER BOARDS TO MAKE THAT DECISION? THAT'S PROBABLY THE BIGGEST ALONG WITH THE AMOUNT.

YOU DID HERE THE LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR SAY LET'S NOT TALK ABOUT PERCENTAGES.

>> PRESENTER: AS A MATTER OF FACT, TODAY HOUSE EDUCATION REPRESENTATIVE LAID OUT HIS PLAN FOR SCHOOL FINANCE REFORM.

SO THAT'S GOING TO PLAY HAND AND GLOVE WITH THIS PROPERTY TAX CAP.

ALL THE MEMBERS HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER IN UNISON.

NOW THAT'S ROLLED OUT, HOW THAT'S GOING TO WORK.

>> CHANCELLOR MAY: THE ONE PIECE OF AGREEMENT THEY NEED TO FIX PUBLIC SCHOOL FINANCE, MAKE IT LESS RELIANT UPON PROPERTY TAX.

I THINK THAT'S THE ONE POINTS THAT FOLKS AREN'T MOVING ON, ISSAC, THAT YOU HAVE TO MAKE K-12 WHOLE AND MORE IN THAT PROCESS.

>> PRESENTER: ONTO THE NEXT SLIDE.

>> P. RITTER: LAST TIME COMMUNITY COLLEGES WERE NOT IN THE BUILD?

>> PRESENTER: CORRECT.

THE LAST ONE IN 2017, WE WERE CARVED OUT OF THAT BILL.

THIS YEAR OUR ASSOCIATION AND DIFFERENT COMMUNITY COLLEGES HAD THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND THEY ARE SORT OF CONVERSATIONS ON THE HOUSE AND SENATE SIDE.

AS OF NOW THERE IS NOT A CARVE OUT EXPECTED.

THEY INDICATED ON THE SENATE SIDE THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THEY ARE CONSIDERING.

WE ARE WORKING TO SEE HOW THEY CAN FIND WAYS TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL DOLLARS.

THAT IS THE NEXT PIECE I'M GOING TO REFER TO ON THE SENATE SIDE.

ONE WAY THE SENATE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT --

>> S. WILLIAMS: WHAT WILL HAPPEN.

THAT'S WHERE WE WERE CARVED OUT LAST TIME, THE URRENT SPEAKER, THE ONE THAT HANDLED THAT.

THOSE CONVERSATIONS HAVE BARELY STARTED BECAUSE IT REALLY WHAT THE DECISION WAS AND THE SENATE UNLIKE MOST OTHER GROUPS, K12 DENT OPPOSE BUT EVERYONE ELSE DID.

THAT ALLOWED US TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THE OFFERER OF THE BILL AND ASKED FOR VARIOUS SCENARIOS IN TERMS OF IMPACT OF FUNDING AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

>> PRESENTER: THE HOUSE APPROPRIATIONS ARTICLE 3 AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, SUBCOMMITTEE HAS MET.

WHAT THEY HAVE DONE ON THE HOUSE SIDE IS THEY HAVE ADDED AN ADDITIONAL 51 MILLION FOR ALL COMMUNITY COLLEGES.

THEY ARE AVING DIFFERENT CONVERSATIONS, HOW CAN THEY HELP US? ONE WAY IS GIVE US $51 MILLION TO COMMUNITY COLLEGES, WHICH MEANS ADDITIONAL 47 MILLION IN SUCCESS POINTS.

WE'RE AT 186 NOW, THAT WILL TAKE US TO 215.

AND ADDITIONAL 3.8 MILLION AT CORE OPERATIONS, 1.4 FROM OUR CURRENT AMOUNT OF 1.3 MILLION.

THAT'S WHAT IS ON THE HOUSE.

NOT A LOT OF DOLLARS.

IT'S A WAY TO BALANCE OUT BETWEEN THE LARGE AND SMALL COLLEGES.

>> S. WILLIAMS: THAT IS ZERO HELP TO US.

IF YOU ARE A COLLEGE WITH A $6 MILLION BUDGET, THAT IS A BIG DEAL TO THEM.

>> CHAIR D. FLORES: DID SOMEONE SAY ABOUT A 5% CUT?

>> PRESENTER: NO.

I THINK THE CONVERSATIONS HAVE BEEN HOVERING, HY THERE IS NOT A HARD NUMBER HOW THE THERE, A 5% CAP HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT.

>> CHAIR D. FLORES: ON THE PROPERTY TAX.

>> PRESENTER: MORE FREQUENTLY

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THAN ANY OTHER NUMBER I'M HEARING.

>> PRESENTER: THE LAST TIME AT THE SPECIAL SESSION, WHICH TRUSTEE RITTER WAS TALKING ABOUT THE PROPERTY TAX BILL, THE HOUSE LEFT IT AT 6%.

THE DISCUSSION IS NOT GOING TO -- MAYBE 5%, 4%, 4.5%.

THAT'S WHERE IT MAY END UP.

>> PRESENTER: WE HAVEN'T TOUCHED OUR RATE AT ALL IN RECENT YEARS.

>> P. RITTER: IS THERE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY THAT TAV GROWTH WON'T TRIGGER THE REQUIREMENT TO GO TO THE VOTERS?

>> PRESENTER: I'M NOT SURE HOW TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

I THINK JOHN ROBERTSON OR SOMEONE--

>> PRESENTER: YOU MEAN THE BUILD ITSELF? -- BILL.

IF YOU READ IT, THE INTENT OF THE BILL IS TO MAKE IT HARD TO GO TO THE VOTERS.

I MEAN IT'S REQUIRED FOR JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING YOU WANT TO DO AND THERE IS A LOT OF HURDLES.

SO THE INTENT TO IS -- NOT MAKE IT EASY TO OVERTURN WHATEVER CAP THAT THE LEGISLATURE WANTS TO PUT ON IT.

WHICH IS THAT LOCAL CONTROL VERSUS STATE CONTROL ISSUE.

I THINK THAT'S THE BIG DEAL IN THE BILL IS WHO IS NOW GOING TO MAKE DECISIONS ON LOCAL PROPERTY TAX? THE STATE LEGISLATURE OR THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT ENTITIES?

>> PRESENTER: THERE ARE TWO WAYS THE TAX BASE GROWS.

ONE IS APPRAISED VALUE OF EXISTING PROPERTY.

THE SECOND S NEW PROPERTY IS ADDED.

>> PRESENTER: THEY ARE EXCLUDED.

>> PRESENTER: WHEN THEY ARE ADDED ON THEY ARE EXCLUDED FROM THE CAPITAL.

I DON'T KNOW --

>> PRESENTER: THE GROWTHS OF TAV, YOU COULD MAKE A POLICY ARGUMENT IT'S -- AND I THINK YOU PROBABLY DEVELOP DATA AROUND THIS.

THERE IS A CORRELATION BETWEEN GROWTH AND TAV TO THE ECONOMIC ACTIVITY OF A COMMUNITY AND THE DEMAND FOR THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE SERVICES.

WE HAVE BEEN GOOD STEWARDS OF THE REIN.

WE HAVE ACTUALLY CUT THROUGH INCREASING EXEMPTIONS.

WHY DON'T WE MAKE AN ARGUMENT TO LEGISLATURE THAT TAV GROWTH SHOULD NOT TARGET THE CAP.

THE ARGUMENT IS BEING MADE FOR ADDITIONAL PROPERTY VALUES ADDED TO THE ROLES.

BUT THAT WOULD BE A SITUATION THAT WOULD, YOU NOW, WE COULD LIVE WITH.

YOU KNOW, FLEXIBILITY AT THE LOCAL LEVEL WHILE GIVING THEM THEIR WHAT THEY FEEL THEY NEED TO DO, WHICH IS CONTROL LOCAL GOVERNMENT.

>> PRESENTER: IT'S TOUGH ON A LOT OF FRONTS TO DEAL WITH THIS.

I'M GOING TO TAKE COMMUNITY COLLEGES BECAUSE WE'RE THE MOST UNIQUE ANIMAL OF ALL OF THEM IN THAT YOU CAN'T FIND A ITY THAT DOESN'T HAVE A TAX BASE ANYWHERE.

YOU AN FIND COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICTS THAT VIRTUALLY DON'T HAVE A TAX BASE AT ALL.

SO OUR OUNTY, YOU NAME IT.

WHEN YOU L LOOK T THE 50 DISTRICTS, GLENN IS VIRTUALLY ZERO, JOHN, YOU WERE THERE.

THERE IS NO OPPORTUNITIES.

THAT IS PART OF THE CHALLENGE.

IT'S NOT LIKE YOU IN K12 WHERE THERE IS ONE SYSTEM SERVING THE WHOLE STATE, THERE ARE 50 SYSTEMS SERVING COMMUNITY COLLEGES AND ALL OF THEM SET UP AND DESIGNED LOCALLY AND IMPLEMENTED LOCALLY.

TOTO TRY TO DO SOMETHING ACROSS THE TOP IS A HUGE CHALLENGE.

IF YOU DO ANYTHING THERE IS GOING TO BE FOLKS THAT WILL LOSE MUCH BIGGER THAN OTHERS IN THAT PROCESS.

>> PRESENTER: TTHEY BRACKET BILLS ALL THE TIME.

WE KNOW THERE IS EXISTING COMMUNITY COLLEGES.

I WOULD ENCOURAGE US TO LOOK AT MAKING AN ARGUMENT HAT JUST GROWTH AND APPRAISED VALUE SHOULD NOT TRIGGER RATE CAP THAT WOULD CAUSE US TO HAVE TO GO TO THE VOTERS.

I MEAN -- YOU ARE GOING TO RAISE THE RATE MORE THAN 4 OR EVEN 2%.

GO TO THE VOTERS ON THAT.

IF IT'S TAV, THAT IS A PROXY FOR ECONOMIC GROWTH.

>> CHANCELLOR MAY: WE'RE IN AGREEMENT ON THAT.

I THINK THE -- LET'S EE WHAT HAPPENS.

THE SENATE IS HUNG UP NOW MAINLY BECAUSE OF ONE THING.

IT'S NOT JUST A CAP.

IT'S AN AMENDMENT GOT ADDED IN

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THAT THERE WAS A, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT, ISSAC? THERE WAS A SMALL SIZE CATEGORY THAT WERE EXEMPTED FROM THE BILL INCLUDED ALL RURAL COMMUNITIES IN THE STATE, HAT WAS EFFECTIVELY EXEMPTED IN THE BILL AND AN AMENDMENT GOT PUT ON THAT MADE IT OPTIONAL FOR THEM.

THAT IS WHAT CAUSED THE OTHER THINGS TO --

>> PRESENTER: THE RURALS ARE GOING, WE CAN'T IVE WITH THIS IN THERE.

>> CHANCELLOR MAY: IT WAS URBAN TAKING ALL THE HITS.

>> PRESENTER: RURAL TEXAS WILL PRESERVE LOCAL CONTROL IN THIS STATE.

THAT'S GOOD.

>> PRESENTER: THE NEXT ITEM IS THE MENINGITIS BOOSTER, SENATE BILL THAT SENATOR WATSON FILED.

IT'S AN INTERESTING PIECE BECAUSE THE CHANCELLOR WAS HAVING A CONVERSATION AND WE REALIZED THERE IS STUDENTS PROHIBITED IN IN ENROLLING BECAUSE THEY CANNOT AFFORD THE VACCINE.

YOU NEED TO APPROVE IT TO ENROLL IN HIGHER ED.

THERE IS A BOOSTER FROM $10 TO NOTHING DEPENDING ON THE STUDENT.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT SENATOR WATSON AD FILED PREVIOUSLY AND CHANCELLOR SPOKE WITH HIM AND HE REFILED THE BILL.

ALSO LOOKING TO FILE THE BILL.

>> P. RITTER: I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT WHEN FILED PREVIOUSLY IT WAS FROM THE PUBLIC HEALTH VIEW, IT'S IMPORTANT TO GET THE VACCINATION AND BOOSTER.

THE ELEMENT THE CHANCELLOR BROUGHT INTO THE CONVERSATION IS THIS IS KEEPING INDIVIDUALS OUT OF HIGHER EDUCATION.

AND SO WITH HIGHER ED AND THE PUBLIC SECTORS WE'RE JOINING FORCES TO TALK ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF IT.

CERTAINLY THERE HAS BEEN SOME NEW LIFE IN THE BILL.

>> CHANCELLOR MAY: THAT KEEPS KIDS OF COLLEGE, THE VACCINE IS REQUIRED OF EVERY PERSON IN A PUBLIC OR PRIORITY INSTITUTION WHEN THEY TURN AGE 11.

THEY MUST TAKE IT BEFORE AGE 12.

IT'S GOOD FOR FIVE YEARS.

IT'S 16 OR 17 ROUGHLY WHEN THEY TIME OUT.

IT'S ONLY GOOD FOR FIVE YEARS.

AT THE POINT THEY HIT A NEW REQUIREMENT.

THEY HAVE TO HAVE THE VACCINE TO GO TO COLLEGE, PUBLIC OR PRIVATE UNIVERSITY IN THE STATE OF TEXAS YOU CANNOT ATTEND WITHOUT IT.

WE HAVE THIS GAP THAT OCCURS THAT COULD BE SOLVED IF YOU FOLLOW THE CDC PROTOCOL, WHICH IS HAVE A BOOSTER AT AGE 16, WHICH COSTS HIGH IS $10, LOW IS 0 FOR IT.

AND IT WOULD CARRY THEM ALL THE WAY THROUGH AGE 21.

WHICH AFTER YOU TURN 22 YOU NO LONGER REQUIRE TO HAVE AN ACTIVE VACCINE.

BUT OUR SCHOOL DISTRICTS SAY KEEPING UP TO 15% OF KIDS WHO WANT TO GO TO COLLEGE OUT BECAUSE THEY AN'T AFFORD IT.

>> PRESENTER: THE LAST BULLET, 60 BY 30 IS A CATCH ALL PHRASE.

ONE BILL THAT WE'RE WORKING ON IS A DATA BILL.

WE'RE ABLE TO ACCESS DATA AND CREATE A DATA TRUST SO WE CAN SHARE DATA BETWEEN INSTITUTIONS.

THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL AS WELL TO HELP STUDENTS TRANSFER AND BEING ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH THIS.

WE'RE KEEPING AN EYE, WORKING ON THAT BILL AND OTHERS THAT ARE BEING FILED PART OF THAT WONDERFUL 4700 AS OF 2:30 TODAY.

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

>> CHAIR D. FLORES: IS THERE ANYTHING DONE ON THE TRANSFER ISSUE IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO TRANSFER PRETTY MUCH THE MAJORITY OF OUR COURSES TO THE FOUR YEARS AT LEAST ON THE PUBLIC SIDE?

>> PRESENTER: THAT WOULD BE THE GOAL.

A COUPLE OF THINGS.

THE BILLS ISSAC MENTIONED THAT LOOKING AT WEST FILING AND REPRESENTATIVE LOZANO AND HOUSE FILING, IDENTICAL BILL.

WHY WE CAN'T WORKOUT DEALS AND SHARE INFORMATION FOR TRANSFER.

AND SO IT'S RED HERRING.

PART OF THE LANGUAGE IN THE BILL IS TO SPELL OUT HOW THIS WOULD WORK UNDER FERPA AND CREATE A ROUTE TO APPEAL IF

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SOMEONE DISAGREES.

IT'S THE GENERAL COUNCIL GOING WE DON'T THINK WE CAN SHARE THE INFORMATION AND PROVIDE THAT BACK.

THAT'S RIGHT PART OF IT.

AND WORKING TO ALSO ENCOURAGE MORE REGIONAL COLLABORATION TO, WHICH WOULD BE CREATING WHAT WE REFER TO AS A REGIONAL INFORMATION TRUST, WHICH MEANS ESSENTIALLY EVERYBODY IS PUTTING ALL THEIR DATA INTO ONE DATABASE SO WE'RE ACCESSING T THIS WAY.

WE'RE IN CONVERSATIONS WITH REGION 10 HOW THAT WOULD WORK SINCE BY FEDERAL LAW IT HAS TO BE A GOVERNMENT ENTITY.

WE COULD DO IT, A UNIVERSITY COULD IT.

REGION 10 THAT 90 SCHOOL DISTRICTS THEY SUPPORT.

IT'S KIND OF A -- I MEAN THEY ARE STARTING THIS THING ON SECOND BASE.

SO AS WE LOOK AT IT.

>> P. RITTER: WE SEE THAT WITH THE DATA SHARING PIECE, THAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO WORK WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND SHARE THAT DATA.

SO EVERYBODY IS OUT OF THEIR SILO TO SEE WHAT IS HAPPENING ALL ALONG THE WAY.

IF WE CAN TAKE THAT AND EXPAND THAT TO A MUCH LARGER POOL THEN IT HELPS ON THE K-12 SIDE AS THEY MATRICULATE TO US AND ON THE TRANSFER SIDE AS WELL.

>> PRESENTER: THERE IS ANOTHER BILL BEING FILED.

IT HASN'T BEEN FILED YET.

I SAW HO THE AUTHOR WAS EARLY THIS MORNING.

THAT WOULD TAKE THE 25 FIELDS OF STUDY AND TIGHTEN UP THE REQUIREMENT OF THAT BOTH A TWO AND FOUR YEAR NSTITUTIONS TO BE ACCEPTING THOSE FIELDS OF STUDY CREATED BY THERE COORDINATING BOARD WITH TEAMS FROM MULTIPLE INSTITUTIONS, TWO-YEAR-FOUR-YEAR WORKING TOGETHER.

THAT WOULD BE FILED THIS SESSION.

>> PRESENTER: THE TEXAS COURT OF CRIMINAL AP APPEALS STRUCK DOWN CERTAIN PROVISIONS OF HE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT.

DO YOU THINK THERE WILL BE LEGISLATION EFFECTING THAT?

>> PRESENTER: I TI THINK IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT IS FILED.

>> PRESENTER: I'M GNAW ATTORNEY BUT I READ THE OPINION ON IT.

IT'S MORE TECHNICAL THAN SUBSTANTIVE.

I THINK THE INTENT IS HERE NEED TO BE MORE SPECIFICITY IN TERMS OF -- SO I'M ASSUMING THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

>> PRESENTER: SECOND TO LAST SLIDE TALKING ABOUT ADVOCACY EFFORTS.

WE TRY TO MEET WITH STAFF AND MEMBERS, CHANCELLOR MAY IS TESTIFYING BEFORE SENATE HIGHER ED.

WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT HEARING.

WE MET WITH HIGHER EDUCATION ADVISOR, THE CHAIRMAN ON HOUSE HIGHER ED.

AN ONGOING PROCESS.

IT'S 140 DAYS.

IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT EVERY WEEK CAN LOOK DIFFERENT FROM THE WEEK BEFORE.

IT'S SOMETHING WE WANT TO STAY ENGAGED AND ACTIVE WITH STAFF AND LEGISLATURES THERE.

WE HAVE A DCCCD GOVERNMENT TUTOR ACCOUNT.

WE'RE TRYING TO PUT N THINGS HAPPENING AT THE CAPITAL TO BE MORE -- TO SHARE MORE INFORMATION.

WE HAVE OUR WEEKLY NEWSLETTER SENT OUT FRIDAY TO KEEP FACULTY AND STAFF UPDATING ON WHAT IS GOING ON IN AUSTIN.

AND THAT'S IT.

SOME OF THESE PHOTOS ARE FROM THE STUDENTS THERE FOR COMMUNITY COLLEGE DAY IN JANUARY.

WE HAD ABOUT 75 STUDENTS THAT WENT TO THE CAPITAL AND EGISLATF OUR STUDENTS SPOKE AT THE RALLY.

IT WAS A GOOD EVENT AND OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR STUDENTS.

>> P. RITTER: REPRESENTATIVE JOHNSON WAS INTERESTED IN THE BILL THAT WOULD REQUIRE UPPER DIVISION UNIVERSITIES TO ACCEPT OUR CREDITS.

DID HE PURSUE THAT?

>> PRESENTER: WE HAD CONVERSATIONS I EXPECT WE'LL CONTINUE TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS I THINK.

HE'S INTERESTED.

AS YOU KNOW, HE'S PRETTY EXCITED TO BE THERE.

ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT -- I WAS THINKING ABOUT NATHAN JOHNSON.

BUT ERIC.

HE'S DONE A FEW THINGS RELATED TO THAT.

WE WORKED WITH HIM ON THAT.

>> PRESENTER: THANK YOU VERY

[1) Education Workforce Committee Notes for December 4, 2018]

MUCH.

>> M. BRAVO: THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

ITEM 3 IS THE COMMITTEE NOTES FROM THE DECEMBER EDUCATION WORKFORCE COMMITTEE.

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QUESTIONS? THERE IS NO NEED FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION.

SO MEETING IS ADJOURNED OR DO WE NEED A

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