Mar 07, 2023 Finance Committee

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WE WILL NOW OPEN OUR MEETING IN FINANCE.

AND SO ACCORDING TO THIS GOOD LAW, I WILL SAY THAT WE DO HAVE A QUORUM OF MEMBERS OF THE FINANCE COMMITTEE AND ALSO IN ACCORDANCE WITH CHAPTER 5.51 OF THE TEXAS OPEN MEETING ACT, I CALL TO ORDER THE FINANCE MEETING OF THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES OF DALLAS COLLEGE FOR MARCH THE 7TH, 2023, AT 149.

MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO HAVE FOLLOWED THE INSTRUCTIONS ON THE DALLAS COLLEGE BOARD OF TRUSTEES WEBSITE OR REGISTERED TO SPEAK DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENT PORTION WILL BE GIVEN FIVE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

THE FINANCE COMMITTEE MEETING IS BEING BROADCAST OVER THE INTERNET.

AN AUDIO RECORDING AND TRANSCRIPT OF THIS MEETING ARE BEING MADE AND WILL BE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC ON THE BOARD'S WEBSITE AFTER THE MEETING AT A LATER DATE.

JASPER, CAN WE PLEASE CONFIRM THIS MEETING HAS BEEN POSTED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE LAW? MR. CHAIRMAN, CERTIFY THIS MEETING WAS POSTED ACCORDING TO SECTION 551.054 OF THE CODE.

[2. Certification of Notice Posted for the Meeting]

CORRECT, SIR. NO ONE HAS SIGNED UP FOR THIS MEETING.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

SO WE HAVE A NUMBER OF ITEMS TO COVER TODAY IN OUR OUR MEETING TODAY.

AND WE'RE GOING TO BASICALLY.

JOHN, ARE YOU READY?

[4.1. Reimagining Dallas College: Phase 2 Scope of Services - Page/HRA Scope of Work Review]

I'M GOING TO START OUT WITH THE SUBJECT OF.

WE'RE CALLING IT REIMAGINING.

NO, NO. TALK ABOUT A DIFFERENT ONE.

AND AS PAUL WOULD SAY, YOU HAVE 15 MINUTES OF OUR 30.

OH, NO, JUST KIDDING.

I'M TOO YOUNG TO HAVE THIS BAD REPUTATION.

GIVE US A SECOND WHILE WE BRING UP THE PRESENTATION, Y'ALL.

OKAY.

SO, JOHN, ARE YOU THE LEADER OF THE GANG HERE? THE GANG OF THREE THERE IN THE GANG OF EIGHT.

SHARM EL SHEIKH.

AND ALSO WHEN THEY CONCLUDE WE'RE GOING TO BE COVERING OUR WORK DAY IMPLEMENTATION PROGRESS REPORT.

JIM PARKER WILL TAKE CARE OF THAT.

AND THEN OUR COUNSELOR IS GOING TO GIVE US AN UPDATE ON OUR LEGISLATIVE ACTIVITY OCCURRING IN AUSTIN.

SO. THAT'S OUR AGENDA FOR THE MEETING TODAY.

AND Y'ALL ARE READY? YEP.

EXCELLENT. I WANT TO START BY GOING BACK A WAYS AND SOME OF THE STUFF THAT WE HAD DONE WHEN WE FIRST STARTED TALKING ABOUT DEVELOPING STRATEGIC PLAN.

TRUSTEE RITTER HAD ASKED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO FOR LAND USE POLICY, AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE REALIZED WAS WE NEEDED TO LOOK AT WHAT ALL WE HAD. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID IS WE HAD JUST COMPLETED SEVEN CAMPUSES, MASTER PLANS.

WE HAD JUST DONE AN EDUCATION PLAN.

AND THAT EDUCATION PLAN BASICALLY CAME UP WITH THE IDEAS OF ONE COLLEGE AND SEVEN SCHOOLS, OF WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE UNDER TODAY.

WE ALSO DURING THAT WHOLE TIMEFRAME, IF YOU REMEMBER, WE HAD PICKED PARRISH RUTHERFORD WITH CATALYST DESIGN TO HELP US LOOK AT ALL THE TYPES OF WAYS OUR LAND AROUND OUR CAMPUSES COULD BE USED OR WHAT WE CALL THE COMMUNITY INTEGRATION STRATEGIES.

AND SO WHAT WE WANTED TO DO, ALONG WITH THE BOARD PRIORITIES AND STRATEGIES THAT WE HAD BEEN WORKING ON OVER THIS PERIOD, IS FIND A WAY TO TIE ALL THIS TOGETHER. SO WE DEVELOPED AN RFQ, AND WHEN I ASKED THE MANY DIFFERENT PEOPLE IN THE IN THE IN THE AREA BACK IN OCTOBER OF 21 ASKING FOR A

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AND THAT'S WHAT WE LOOKED AT TRYING TO DO.

WE DID THAT IN OCTOBER.

WE HAD A COMMITTEE THAT REVIEWED THOSE RESPONSES.

WE HAD EIGHT RESPONSES THAT CAME BACK IN.

THOSE WERE SCORED AND AND PRIORITIZED.

WE HAD PRESENTATIONS BY THREE OF THEM, AND FROM THAT WE HAD SELECTED A TEAM OF PAGE SOUTHERLAND, PAGE AND H.R.

AND A THEY PRESENTED WHAT WAS FOR THE FULL SCOPE OF SERVICES, THE BEST PLAN FOR UNDERSTANDING WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO DO.

SO WHAT WHAT HAS LED INTO IT NOW IS WE WORKED WITH THEM IN THE FIRST PART TO DO THIS IN WHAT WE CALL TWO PHASES. PHASE ONE WAS REALLY DEALING WITH THE DECISION MAKING FRAMEWORK, INNOVATION AND UNDERSTANDING WHAT ALL WE HAD IN OUR FACILITY PLANNING THAT WAS GOING ON THAT WOULD HELP US THEN DEVELOP PHASE TWO, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE BRINGING FORWARD TODAY, WHICH IS THE FULL SCOPE FOR ALL OF OUR CAMPUSES.

HOWEVER, WE WILL BE CONCENTRATING ON THE EL CENTRO AND DOWNTOWN AREAS FIRST AND ALSO ANSWERING HELPING US ANSWER THE QUESTION WHICH PIPER PIPER WILKINS WILL PRESENT IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS.

THE WHOLE IDEA ABOUT HOW DO WE WORK WITH INNOVATION, WILL THAT BE SO WE CAN GO ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE? SO THAT'S WHAT LED UP TO WHERE WE ARE.

SO WHAT IS IN THIS AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE TODAY IS, LIKE I SAID, WE'VE ALREADY COMPLETED THE PHASE ONE.

THE PHASE TWO IS VERY SPECIALIZED EXPERTISE.

WE HAVE REALIGNED THAT SCOPE TO STREAMLINE THE WORK, DECIDE WHAT THINGS DALLAS COLLEGE WILL DO AND WHAT THINGS.

PAIGE SUTHERLAND AIR AND AIR WILL DO AND PRIORITIZE THOSE.

SO WE FINISHED THEM IN AN APPROPRIATE AMOUNT OF TIME AS WE'RE WORKING WITH THIS RFI THAT'S GOING OUT ON THE STREET AND THEN ULTIMATELY DEVELOPING AN RFP FOR DOWNTOWN OF WHAT WE WANT TO DO.

BUT THE LONGEST PART OF THIS IS DOING ALL OF OUR CAMPUSES AND THEN TYING THEM TOGETHER PROGRAMMATICALLY, FACILITY WISE, USE OF SPACE. WHAT ALL GOES TOGETHER IS HOW WE NEED TO HAVE AND ULTIMATELY THAT LAND USE POLICY, WHICH WE HOPE WITHIN A COUPLE OF MONTHS TO START THE FRAMEWORK, MAYBE IN JUNE PLANNING WORKSHOPS.

WHAT THAT MEANS IS GET THE BOARD'S INPUT ON WHAT A LAND USE PLAN SHOULD LOOK LIKE.

CAN WE GET THE POWERPOINT WORKING? SHE'S NOT ABLE TO SCROLL THROUGH.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. THANKS.

I'M SURE. YES. I'M SORRY.

I'M STILL ON. I'M SORRY.

I THOUGHT YOU HAD SAID NEXT.

PERFECT TIMING. YEAH.

YEAH. SO, AS JOHN REFERENCED, WE WANTED TO STREAMLINE THESE SCOPES AND REALLY PUT THEM IN PRIORITIZATION AS TO WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN FIRST, SECOND, AND KIND OF IN AN ONGOING BEHIND THE SCENES MANNER. SO WHAT WE WANTED TO DO IS WE MOVED THE DOWNTOWN REAL ESTATE STRATEGY AND THE LAND USE POLICY UP TO THE FIRST SCOPE.

SO THAT IS WHERE WE WANT TO TARGET OUR EFFORTS ON UNDERSTANDING WHAT WE NEED FOR THAT PORTION OF THE PROJECT.

FOR THE SECOND SCOPE, WE'RE ALSO THINKING ABOUT WHAT DO WE NEED IN REGARDS TO INNOVATION? AND WE'RE ALSO WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS THAT ON DOWNTOWN FIRST.

BUT WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO FOR INNOVATION SYSTEM WIDE.

SO THEN THE THIRD SCOPE.

IS WHAT WE'RE CALLING KIND OF A MENU APPROACH, OPTIONS OF WHAT WE'RE NEEDING IN SUPPORT OF LONG TERM PLANNING, REAL ESTATE AND FACILITY PLANNING SERVICES.

SO WE KNOW THAT WE NEED SPACE USE ASSESSMENTS, SOME OF THAT WE MAY BE ABLE TO DO OURSELVES, BUT SOME OF THAT WE WOULD MAY NEED SUPPORT FROM THIS GROUP TO HELP US WORK THROUGH THE DATA AND UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.

SYSTEM WIDE CAMPUS PLANNING AND REAL ESTATE ASSESSMENT.

THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE MAY NEED SOME ASSISTANCE WITH.

ADDITIONALLY, ALIGNING ALL THOSE PLANS THAT JOHN REFERENCED EARLIER AND MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE ONE COMPREHENSIVE STRATEGY MOVING FORWARD.

OKAY. THAT MY MIND DOESN'T ISN'T THE SAME AS HERE, AND YOURS ISN'T EITHER.

YEAH. YEAH. IT'S A DIFFERENT.

MADE SENSE THIS WEEK.

THAT'S CORRECT. WE JUST REALIZED THAT WITH THE WRONG PRESENTATION, MAKE IT KIND OF HARD TO FOLLOW ALONG IF I HAVE QUESTIONS.

YEAH, I'M HAVING TO PRINT COPIES AND I'LL BRING IT, BUT.

ORGANIZATION. SO THIS IS JUST A GENERAL HIGH LEVEL TIMELINE OUTLINED BY THE THREE SCOPES OF WORK THAT I JUST DESCRIBED.

SO REALLY STARTING THE DOWNTOWN REAL ESTATE STRATEGY AND THEN ALIGNING THAT WITH THE INNOVATION WORK FOR DOWNTOWN AND THEN ALSO UNDERSTANDING WHAT IT IS WE'RE NEEDING IN A DOWNTOWN SPACE.

SO THAT IS GOING TO START THIS FISCAL YEAR AND CONTINUE ON THROUGH FISCAL YEAR 2024.

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AND SO YOU CAN SEE THAT ON THE BOTTOM LINE, WHERE THE THREE KIND OF EXTENDS BEYOND THAT FIRST STEP.

YES, MA'AM. MR. CHAIR, CAN WE KIND OF PAUSE A MINUTE? BECAUSE THIS IS AN IMPORTANT PRESENTATION AND I'M CONFUSED BECAUSE WHAT I HAVE HERE DOESN'T JIVE WITH WHAT'S BEING SHOWN ON THE SCREEN.

AND I REALLY WANT TO BE ABLE TO FOLLOW ALONG.

BUT I HAVE A QUESTION.

GIVE ME ABOUT FIVE MINUTES TO WHAT WE ALL DO NEED TO FOLLOW UP.

WHY DO WE HAVE THE DIFFERENT ONES? WHO IS OUR MISTAKE? MY APOLOGIES.

THE ONE, THE ONE THAT WE HAVE ON OUR THAT WE GOT RECEIVED IS MORE IN DETAIL, IS MORE IN DEPTH AND HAS MORE PAGES AND ALL IN IT.

BUT IT'S ALL GOING TO SAY THAT WAS IN TO WORKING WITH LEADERSHIP.

THAT WAS WHAT WE USED WHEN WE WENT THROUGH A REVIEW OF ALL THE SCOPES AND AND TASKS THAT THEY HAD TO DO.

WE HAD RECOMMENDATIONS FROM LEADERSHIP OF WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO, AND SO WE HAD REVISED THE SCOPE TO BE DOWN TO WHERE WE COULD.

WE SHIFT THE JIM RIGHT QUICK WHILE WE'RE WAITING TO THAT.

OH, GOOD, GOOD. YEAH, YOU'RE HERE.

YEAH, HE'S HERE. HEY, WHY DON'T WE GET.

LET'S JUST GO AHEAD AND MOVE. DIAMONDS.

SHE'S MAKING THAT WHEEL.

YEAH. WE'RE VERY VERSATILE NOW.

ARE YOU GOOD? NOW YOU'RE GOOD.

NOW YOU'RE DOING A FULL MAYOR.

READY OR NOT? HERE YOU GO.

[4.2. WorkDay Implementation Progress]

HERE WE GO. ALL RIGHT.

THIS IS HOW VIRTUAL WORK DAY IS.

YEAH. SO WE'VE BEEN.

HAD WORKED IN HR AND FINANCE PAYROLL.

THE FIRST PAYROLL AND PRETTY EXCITING STUFF AND CHECKS, CLEARED CHECKS.

SO, YOU KNOW, IT'D BE MOST EXCITING FOR ME.

SO I'LL GET INTO IT BECAUSE THE I GUESS I GOT A GO HERE.

JUST PUT SOME CONTEXT.

I PUT THIS SLIDE IN AN OPERATIONAL CONTEXT FOR THE BOARD, RIGHT? SO RIGHT NOW, THE ISD ISD IN INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY DIVIDED INTO THREE MAJOR AREAS THAT DESIGN, DEVELOPMENT, OPERATIONS AND CYBERSECURITY.

IT'S IMPORTANT SEGMENT DESIGN AND.

FROM BROKE, WHICH WE WEREN'T DOING THAT FOR NOW WE ARE NOW AND THEN PLANS, PROGRAMS, BUDGET EXECUTION, OPERATIONS, 42 139 NINE POSITIONS IN EACH ONE OF THOSE.

SO YOU THINK OF THIS THING ON THE FAR RIGHT IS ONE.

WE NORMALLY CALL IT OFFICE OF THE CIO, AND IT RUNS ALL YOUR YOUR BUDGETING, YOUR PROGRAMING, YOUR CONTRACT.

FLOYD. YOU'RE LOOKING AT OBVIOUSLY LARGE NUMBERS HERE.

AND SO YOU NEED A GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT ARE REALLY, TRULY DEDICATED ON THAT.

THIS IS A GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT ALSO DO THAT STRATEGIC SOURCING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST WEEK TO TRY TO CONSOLIDATE MANY, MANY CONTRACTS DOWN INTO A SINGLE EXECUTABLE STRATEGIC BUCKETS SO WE CAN GET BETTER DISCOUNTS, OF COURSE.

YES, MA'AM. WHAT IS THE BUDGET? 51 MILLION.

AND IT SAYS OPERATING 84 MILLION WORK.

THEY EXPLAIN THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN THE TWO TWO.

YES, IT'S IT'S TWO SEPARATE BUCKETS.

SO THE 51 MILLION AND I GUESS I MAY HAVE MOVED OVER HERE BECAUSE I PUT BOTH LABOR AND NON-LABOR INTO THAT.

SO THAT'S 51 MILLION IS BOTH THE NON LABOR AND LABOR COSTS TO RUN THE DAY.

AND THEN BECAUSE WE'RE DOING A WORKDAY BUDGET, I PUT THE PROJECT THIS IS THE BOARD APPROVED BUDGETED AMOUNT FOR THE WORK DAY PROJECT AND I THINK YOU SAW A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO WE SHOWED A PROJECTION THAT WE ARE WELL WITHIN THAT CURRENTLY AND PROJECTED TO STAY WITHIN THAT OVER THE NEXT THE COURSE OF THE IMPLEMENTATION IS ABOUT TEN YEARS.

MR. ROBERTSON WHEN WE FIRST WERE GETTING THESE THE BUDGET PROJECTIONS IN TERMS OF THE NEW ERP, I THOUGHT IT WAS IN THE $60 MILLION RANGE.

IT NEVER WAS. NO, IT'S BEEN 84 MILLION SINCE TEN.

AND I FIRST TRIED TO COME UP WITH THE AMOUNT.

THE CREDIT TO JIM IS WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO STAY IN THAT EVEN THOUGH WE'VE HAD SOME CHANGE ORDERS BECAUSE WE'VE DONE A REAL GOOD JOB ANY ABLE TO CONTROL THAT AND BE ABLE TO DO IT.

WE HAVE SOME CONTINGENCY MONEY IN THERE, NOT WORKDAYS HOURS AND QUITE FRANKLY, IT'S STILL THERE, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.

IT MIGHT GET USED YET, BUT WE'RE STILL STAYING WITHIN BUDGET ON THESE THINGS.

SO THAT'S A QUITE FRANKLY, FOR A PROJECT OF THIS SIZE THAT'S AMONG US.

WELL, I REMEMBERED INCORRECTLY ON THE REASON FOR THE REGULATIONS AND TO BE QUITE CANDID, THAT'S OK AND COMPARED TO WHAT MOST OF THE MARKET IS SPENDING. SO WE'RE DOING REALLY, REALLY WELL THERE.

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SO WE'VE IMPLEMENTED THIS IS A COMPLEX SLIDE, BUT I THINK THE MEANING OF THIS SLIDE IS SO WHAT WE IMPLEMENTED WORKDAY AND FINANCE. SO WHAT WHAT DOES THAT DO FOR OUR STRATEGIC PRIORITIES AND PUT A CHECKMARK NEXT TO THOSE KEY AREAS THAT ARE THE BOARD'S STRATEGIC PRIORITIES THAT THIS IMPLEMENTATION WILL SUPPORT? AND I THINK THAT'S THE KEY PIECE NOT GOING THROUGH ALL.

THE WORDS, BUT I THINK PERSONALLY.

THIS HELPS US GET TO THAT ONE COLLEGE MODEL THAT THAT THAT WE WANT TO BE AT.

THIS BRINGS US INTO THAT ONE COLLEGE.

EVEN THOUGH WE HAD A SINGLE INSTANCE OF COLLEGE AS OUR FORMER ERP, IT WAS.

IF WE SET UP TO SUPPORT THE SEVEN DIFFERENT COLLEGES INDEPENDENTLY.

ALL RIGHT. BUT THIS IMPLEMENTATION IS A SINGLE SINGLE IMPLEMENTATION FOR ONE COLLEGE.

THE OTHER THING THAT WE FOUND IN RUNNING PAYROLL AND DOING OTHER THINGS IS THE TRANSPARENCY OF THE DATA, AS EXPECTED, REALLY MADE THINGS APPARENT AS TO WHERE THE PROBLEM, NOT THE PROBLEMS, BUT THE DATA, THE DIRTY DATA WAS, IF YOU WILL.

AND THERE WERE. LITTLE THINGS.

FOR EXAMPLE, A COUPLE OF THINGS RIGHT OFF THE TOP WERE HOURLY AND SALARY PERSONNEL IN THE SAME JOB JOB CODE, AND YOU JUST DON'T DO THAT.

SO WE SAW THAT YOU COULD SPLIT IT OUT.

OTHER AREAS WHERE A LOT OF PAPER, A LOT OF PAPER PROCESSING.

SO WE HAVE ONE EMPLOYEE, A GOOD EXAMPLE EMPLOYEE WAS THEIR SALARY, BUT THEY ALSO.

TO DO ADDITIONAL WORK ON AN HOURLY BASIS.

AND THEY'RE DOING OR THEY'RE DOING TWO JOBS THAT ARE BOTH HOURLY FILLING OUT SEPARATE TIME CARDS TO INDIVIDUALS.

SO ALL OF THAT PAPER PIECE REALLY GOES AWAY.

WE CAN'T REALLY PROCESS PAPER TIME CARD ANYMORE, WHICH IS REALLY NEAT BECAUSE NOW WE HAVE TO REALLY WORK TOGETHER AS COLLABORATIVE UNITS. IN FACT, WE'VE BEEN THE HR HAVE HAD A WORKSHOP JUST YESTERDAY WORKING WITH THE ACADEMIC SCHEDULING TEAM AND THE PAYROLL TEAM WORKING.

HOW THESE NEW PROCESSES OF INTERACTING WITH EACH OTHER AS ORGANIZATIONS.

SO THAT'S PRETTY EXCITING BRINGING AGAIN TOGETHER THAT THAT THAT SINGLE ORGANIZATION AND IT GIVES US WITH THAT TRANSPARENCY.

MUCH GREATER ABILITY TO LEVERAGE OUR STRATEGIC ASSETS, BOTH PHYSICAL AND FINANCIAL.

WHICH IS COOL. AND THE LAST THING I THINK IT DOES IS ALLOW US TO FALL IN.

WE'RE NOT INVENTING PROCESSES SO COMMONLY.

IT WAS DESIGNED FOR YOU TO TELL IT WHAT PROCESS YOU WANTED TO FOLLOW, AND YOU INVENTED YOUR PROCESSES AND COMING INTO WORK.

LEVERAGING THE BEST PRACTICES OF MANY SEVERAL DECADES WORTH OF PROCESS DEVELOPMENT IN THESE TWO POOL FUNCTIONALITIES.

ANY QUESTIONS, SIR? NO.

I LIKE THIS SLIDE BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK WE LOSE SIGHT OF IS THAT EVERYTHING WE DO IS DIRECTED BY OUR STRATEGIC PLAN.

AND SO THANK YOU FOR PUTTING IT IN THE CONTEXT OF THAT.

I WON'T STEAL JOHN SUTTER, BUT THEY'RE STARTING NOW.

THE SHIFT TO LEVERAGE THE STRATEGIC PLANNING MODULES THAT ARE INCUMBENT WITHIN THE WORK.

THEY WON'T DO IT QUITE YET THIS YEAR, BUT IN THE NEXT CYCLE THEY'LL BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

SO THAT'LL EVEN FURTHER ALIGN AND ENSURE MEASURABLE ALIGNMENT AGAINST THOSE STRATEGIC PRIORITIES.

YOU KNOW, IT'S ALSO VERY TIMELY IN THAT WHERE WE ARE IN THE STAGE OF THE COLLEGE OF OUR FUTURE GROWTH, OUR OUR FUTURE VISIONS OF THINGS THAT WILL BE DELIVERED.

IT'S THIS IS THIS IS DEVELOPING ALONG AT THE SAME TIME.

SO THAT ANY UNIQUENESS IN THINGS THAT WE'RE CHANGING AND HEADING IN OTHER DIRECTION.

YOU'RE GETTING THE BUILD IT IN ON THE FRONT END AND THAT'S A REAL VALUABLE THING.

IT'S TOO LATE.

IF YOU IF THE LAST FRIDAY YOU FINISHED UP THE OLD WAY AND NOW HERE'S THE NEW WAY.

YEAH. YES, MA'AM. MY QUESTION REFERRED TO THE BEGINNING SLIDE.

WHEN YOU LIST THESE POSITIONS, ARE THEY ALL NEW POSITIONS OR ARE WE MOVING PEOPLE THAT ARE ALREADY IN THE OTHER SYSTEM INTO THESE POSITIONS? THESE ARE EXISTING POSITIONS FROM THE PREVIOUS SYSTEM.

OKAY. SO NONE OF THEM ARE NEW HIRES.

NONE OF THEM ARE NEW HIRES.

WE ALSO HAVE NOT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RIGHT TERM MIGHT BE, BUT THERE THERE WERE VACANCIES IN THE PREVIOUS SYSTEM WHICH ARE TRACKED AS AUTHORIZED BASED ON PREVIOUS AUTHORIZED BUDGET, BUT THOSE WEREN'T NECESSARILY BROUGHT FORWARD TO PROVIDE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO TO JUSTIFY THEM AGAIN OR, OR SAY NOW THAT WE'RE OPERATING LIKE THIS, MAYBE WE NEED TO ENHANCE OR MODIFY OR IMPROVE OUR SKILL SETS.

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BUT THE SYSTEM WAS ABOUT.

OH, OKAY. YEAH.

VIETNAM ERA.

WELL, NOT QUITE.

BUT IT WAS. IT WAS THE ACTUAL.

IT'S BASED ON A PC DOS BASED OPERATING SYSTEM.

BASIC BASIC PROGRAMING.

THAT MEANS ANYTHING. I HATED IT.

I HAD 15 I IN NORTH CAROLINA.

I JUST WANT TO BURN THEM ALL.

SORRY. SO WHAT CHANGED? AT THE VERY. I'M ALLOWING THEM TO SPEND A LOT OF TIME WITH THIS.

SOME OF THE THINGS THAT CHANGED REALLY, IT REALLY INVOLVED THE PAPER.

YOU KNOW, WE WERE USED TO TAKING A FORM OR A PIECE OF PAPER AND MOVING.

AND I THINK ONE PREVIOUS BOARD THAT WE MENTIONED OR TEN THE PROGRAM MANAGER, WHICH I WISH YOU WOULD COME UP HERE BECAUSE HE'S REALLY LEADING THIS EFFORT TREMENDOUSLY, IS WHEN WE WOULD SUBMIT LEAVE FOR VACATION TIME THAT WOULD APPEAR AUTOMATED ON THE FRONT END BY GOING THROUGH A FORM, BUT THEN IT WOULD COME BACK ON THE OTHER SIDE OF SHAREPOINT AND YOU'D HAVE TO LITERALLY PRINT THAT OUT AND SOMEBODY WOULD TYPE IT INTO COLUMN.

SO IT REALLY WAS A LOT OF AIR GAPS IN THE PROCESS, OR IF IT WAS A PAPER FORM, IT WOULD ROOT AROUND WITH PHYSICAL NOTES AND THEN HAND IT TO A DATA ENTRY TEAM.

NOW THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN.

AND ONE EXAMPLE I WAS TALKING WITH, ONE OF THE THINGS WAS THAT THEIR W-4 WASN'T RIGHT.

IT DIDN'T TRANSLATE RIGHT GOING FROM THE OLD SYSTEM TO THE NEW SYSTEM.

WELL, IN THE OLD DAYS.

RIGHT. WHICH WAS A FEW WEEKS AGO, WE WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THAT ANY FOR FORM AND HAND, WALK IT OVER TO HR AND SAY, YES, THAT LOOKS GOOD.

LET'S LET'S ENTER IT INTO THE SYSTEM.

TODAY HE JUST INITIATED AND COMPLETED THAT THAT PROCESS ALL BY HIMSELF.

JUST IT HAPPENS ELECTRONICALLY WITHIN THE SYSTEM AND THAT'S JUST ONE EXAMPLE.

YEAH, NICE REALLY COOL TO HAVE THAT MUCH CONTROL THE OTHER DAY.

IN THE PAST WE WOULD HAVE TO BUILD OUR ORG CHART.

IN FACT, I THINK WE BOUGHT SOME FANCY SOFTWARE TO BUILD THE ORG CHART.

RIGHT. THE ORG CHART.

WAS CONSTRUCTED WITHIN THE SYSTEM.

AND WE HAVE NOT ONLY SUPERVISION BUT POSITION MANAGEMENT.

SO THAT JEN, WHO WORKS FOR ME, IF I LEFT, EVEN THOUGH HE MAY HAVE RECORDED ME, HE REALLY REPORTS TO MY POSITION.

AND SO HE DOESN'T GET ORPHANED, WHAT WE CALL ORPHAN.

IN THE OLD SYSTEM, IF A PERSON LEFT, THEY WOULD GET ORPHANED IN THE OLD SYSTEM BECAUSE WE JUST DIDN'T DO POSITION MANAGEMENT.

NOW THOSE POSITIONS ARE THERE.

THEY. ASSOCIATED WITH THEM.

YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENS TO THEM.

AND THESE THINGS HAVE CHANGED WHEN YOU GET TO IT.

YES, MA'AM. GIVE ME EXPLAIN THAT LAST VERY LAST SENTENCE.

PROCESSORS ARE ACCOUNTABLE TO EMPLOY DRONES.

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? YES, MA'AM. THE TIME CARD IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE.

SO TIME SHEETS IN THIS SYSTEM YOU CANNOT DELEGATE THE SIGNATURE TO.

SO IF I'M AN EMPLOYEE, I AM FILLING OUT MY TIME CARD DIGITALLY AND THE SYSTEM IS LOGGING THAT AS ACCOUNTABLE.

ANY IF I CHANGE IT, WHICH IS FINE, BUT IT TRACKS THAT CHANGE.

AND SO IT'S OF ACCOUNTABILITY.

ME AS AN INDIVIDUAL, WHEN I PASS IT ON TO MY SUPERVISOR FOR APPROVAL.

THE SUPERVISOR HAS TO GO INTO THE SYSTEM AND HAS TO APPROVE IT AND THEY HAVE TO APPROVE IT WITHIN A CERTAIN TIME FRAME TO ENSURE THAT THAT EMPLOYEE, IF THEIR FLSA AND NONEXEMPT THEY GET PAID.

SO THAT MIGHT BE THE SIMPLEST EXAMPLE OF ACCOUNTABILITY.

CERTAIN AUTHORITIES AND DECISIONS ARE HELD WITHIN CERTAIN ROLES.

SO SOMETIMES I CAN DELEGATE THAT ROLE.

I MIGHT WANT TO DELEGATE THE CREATION OF A OF AN EXPENSE REPORT, AND I WANT TO SEND THAT TO TO NANCY, WHO SORT OF HELPS ME AS MY EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT.

WELL, IF SHE FILLS THAT FORM.

SHE SIGNS THAT EXPENSE REPORT, SHE IS SIGNING IT IN THE SYSTEM THAT SAYS SIGN ON BEHALF OF ME SO I DON'T LOSE ACCOUNTABILITY.

I HAVE DELEGATED THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE AUTHORITY TO MAKE THAT DECISION, BUT I'M RESPONSIBLE FOR IT, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

AND THEN THE SYSTEM TRACKS WHO ACTUALLY MADE THE TRANSACTION? YES, SIR. IN FACT, IT WILL SAY SIGN ON BEHALF OF JIM PARKER BY NANCY GOMES.

OKAY. IT'S ALMOST A BLOCKCHAIN TYPE PROTECTION, AND IT JUST MAKES SURE THAT IF YOU WERE TO PERFORM AN AUDIT, YOU WOULD KNOW EXACTLY WHO MADE THOSE TRADES.

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DOES THAT HELP? OH, NO.

OKAY. OH, I KNEW WAS SOMETHING.

I'M WONDERING ABOUT.

BUT YOU CAN GO ON AND FINISH AND I'LL COME BACK.

VERY GOOD. I THINK I ONLY HAVE ONE SLIDE LEFT.

SO I THINK THE ONLY REAL IMPORTANT QUESTION THAT A LOT OF FOLKS USUALLY HAVE AT THIS POINT IS, SO HOW ARE WE SUSTAINING THE SUPPORT AND WHAT ARE WE PROVIDING TO THE STAFF AND EMPLOYEES SO THAT WE CAN MAKE THIS TRANSITION AS SMOOTH AS POSSIBLE? WE'VE USED THE TERM IN THE PAST HYPER CARE A LOT.

BURMESE AND FOREIGN MARINES ARE LIKE BLOCKS, YOU KNOW, SIMPLE STUFF.

MAKES SENSE TO ME. BUT THIS GRADE REPRESENTS WHAT WE WOULD BE PROVIDING STEADY STATE.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING.

STEADY STATE.

AND AND FOR THE FIRST THREE MONTHS WE ARE ADDING ADDITIONAL CONSULTATION AND SUPPORT STAFF TO CREATE THAT HYPER CARE.

SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? SO THIS THIS STAFF COMES WITH THE LEVEL OF EXPERTISE.

HE IS THEY'RE NOT GOING TO DO IT FOR US.

THEY AREN'T. THEY'RE VERY GOOD AT IT, ACTUALLY, WHEN DELOITTE COMES IN, THEY BROUGHT IN.

EXPERT, BUT THAT EXPERT IS NOT GOING TO DO IT FOR US.

IF WE HAVE A QUESTION, THEY'LL HELP US.

GUIDE US THROUGH THE DOING IT FOR OURSELVES.

AND THAT'S KEY.

THAT'S REALLY KEY. YOU JUST LEARN BY DOING BETTER IN IT AND IT BRINGS THAT KNOWLEDGE INTO BEAR.

BUT THEY DO BRING IN SOME EXPERTISE TO HELP US RESOLVE CERTAIN THINGS.

SO WHEN THE ORG CHART TRANSITIONED OVER FROM COLLEGE INTO IN INTO WORKDAY, SOME OF THE WAYS THAT WORKDAY DEFINES THE ORGANIZATION DID NOT TRANSLATE EQUALLY.

SO WHAT I MEAN BY THAT, SOME PEOPLE SUPERVISE OTHERS BUT MAYBE I'LL USE I THINK THIS WAS YOUR EXAMPLE.

YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT AN EXEMPT EMPLOYEE IS THE ONE WHO'S SIGNING A NON EXEMPT EMPLOYEES TIME CARD AND THAT WASN'T ALWAYS DILIGENTLY REQUIRED WITHIN COLLEAGUES.

SO SOME OF THOSE TRANSLATIONS HAVE TO BE RECTIFIED.

SO WE MADE SURE THAT THOSE ARE BEING DONE AND THAT REQUIRES A LEVEL OF EXPERTISE.

THEY'D BE THE ONE TIME EVENT.

THAT WOULD BE BACK LEAVE AND ABSENCES FROM JANUARY.

YOU KNOW, THERE WAS THIS BREAK PERIOD BETWEEN WHEN WE WERE USING COLLEAGUE AND WHEN WE ROLLED INTO WORKDAY AND PEOPLE STILL NEEDED TO TAKE VACATIONS.

PEOPLE STILL GOT SICK AND TOOK SICK LEAVE.

SO FIXING THAT IS A ONE TIME EVENT.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING WHERE THIS EXPERTISE WOULD COME IN BECAUSE LITERALLY I WOULD AFFECT MAYBE 400 PEOPLE.

SO JUST JUST TAKE THOSE TRANSACTIONS OFF OF THERE.

AND THEN WE CONTINUE TO HAVE WE HAD LIKE YESTERDAY, WE HAD A WORKSHOP.

WE WOULD HAVE OFFICE HOURS AT OFF TOPICS.

ALL OF THE INCIDENTS AND ISSUES ARE BEING CAPTURED IN A CASE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM CALLED SERVICENOW.

THEY AT&T USES SERVICENOW.

IT'S A PRETTY GLOBAL PLATFORM.

AND SO THEN THE LEADERSHIP CAN GO IN AND SEE WHERE THERE ARE TRENDS.

SO OUT OF, YOU KNOW, 600 TICKETS, HOW MANY OF THEM ARE DEALING WITH LEAVE AND ABSENCES, HOW MANY DEAL WITH PAYROLL AND THEN THE TEAM CAN THEN FOCUS IN AND ZOOM IN ON THOSE TO PROVIDE SUPPORT.

PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD STUFF. I DO WANT TO.

YOU NEED TO STAND OUT BECAUSE I DROVE HIM ALL THE WAY DOWNTOWN.

HE'S DONE ABOUT 15 OF THESE ERP SYSTEMS AND WORKING INTERNATIONALLY.

HE'S ALSO. MAJOR PROJECTS TO INCLUDE A PROCUREMENT SITE INSIDE THE COLLEGE.

SO THAT'S A GIFT REALLY FOR US BECAUSE YOU HAVE SOMEONE WHO'S REALLY DEEP IN EXPERIENCE BUT ALSO UNDERSTANDS THE CULTURE PRETTY INTIMATELY.

SO I DO WANT TO SAY, ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS BEFORE WE SIT DOWN? ALL RIGHT. JUST GO AHEAD.

WANT TO COMMEND ALL THE WORK THAT WAS DONE, BECAUSE I KNOW BEFORE PAYCHECK TIME CAME, THERE WAS A LOT OF THINGS ARE GOING TO GET MY CHECK.

I MEAN, I'M GOING TO GET MY CHECK FEBRUARY CENTER.

AND I HEARD A LOT OF THAT BUBBLING UP.

AND THEN PAYCHECK DAY CAME AND WENT AND I DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING.

SO APPARENTLY NOT TOO TERRIBLY.

SO CONGRATULATIONS.

YOU KNOW, A FEW THINGS WITH YOU ALWAYS GET THAT ANY SYSTEM.

AND THEY WERE HANDLED WITH THIS HYPER CARE THAT JIM WAS TALKING ABOUT.

PAYROLL TEAM DID AN EXCELLENT JOB.

HR DID AN EXCELLENT JOB.

THEY ALL JUST WORKED TOGETHER WITH REALLY GETTING ALL THOSE PROBLEMS SOLVED.

WE JUST HAD. YOU ALWAYS HAVE SOMETHING WEIRD SHOW UP.

BUT JIM, I'VE DONE THESE BEFORE.

I STILL HAVE THE SCARS ON MY BACK, BUT THERE'S NEVER ONE YOU GO THROUGH AND NOT HAVE A LITTLE HICCUP.

WHAT'S WHAT'S BEEN MINIMIZED? WHAT'S BEEN REALLY EXCITING, THOUGH, IS THE THE LEVEL OF PASSION, PROFESSIONALISM AND DILIGENCE BY THE STAFF.

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OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

MY OTHER QUESTION. YEAH.

YEAH. OH, THIS SYSTEM PROTECTS AGAINST FRAUD OR FRAUDULENT TRANSACTIONS OR IT DOES DEFINITELY BETWEEN FRAUD, WASTE AND ABUSE.

YES, MA'AM. BECAUSE IT DOES HAVE TWO WAYS.

ONE IS THE THE LOGGING SYSTEM WHERE IT TRACKS.

WHEN I GO IN AND I PERFORM AN ACTION IN THERE, I LEAVE FINGERPRINTS EVERYWHERE I GO AND EVERY SINGLE USER LEAVES A FINGERPRINT WHERE THEY WHERE THEY GO.

AND THEN IT ALSO THIS TIED TO THEIR PASSWORD.

IT'S TIED TO THEIR TO THEIR USERNAME AND ACCOUNT.

YES. THE USER. WHAT THEIR USERNAME, THEIR USER ACCOUNT.

IT IS TIED TO THEM AND IT REQUIRES A MULTI-FACTOR AUTHENTICATION TO GET IN.

AND AND AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, IF I IF I DELEGATE AND NOT ALL TASKS CAN BE DELEGATED, BUT IF I DELEGATE A TASK, THEN IT PUTS A TIME LIMIT ON THAT TASK. I CAN'T DELEGATE INDEFINITELY AND ALSO SAYS, YES, YOU DELEGATED IT, BUT AND YES, NANCY APPROVED IT, BUT SHE DID IT ON YOUR BEHALF.

SO THE ASSUMPTION IS YOU GAVE HER THE AUTHORITY TO DO THAT.

OKAY. SO IT'S TRACKING IT.

IT'S TRACKING. IT LEAVES A FOOTPRINT.

IT'S ALSO TRANSPARENT.

IT'S VERY, VERY TRANSPARENT.

SO I CAN GO IN AND LOOK AT EVERYBODY'S WORK CHART AND SEE ALL THAT ACTIVITY.

OKAY. SO IT'S TRACKING ALL OF THAT.

SO WHEN THE SYSTEM DETECTS THAT THAT'S HAPPENED, WHAT HAPPENS AT THAT POINT? DOES IT KNOW FOR CERTAIN PEOPLE OR I MEAN, WHAT HAPPENS SO YOU CAN GO IN THERE AND STOP IT? I'LL DEFER TO TIM ON WHETHER WE SET ANY CONFIGURATION ITEMS ON EXPENDITURES, BUT IF WE SET UP CERTAIN BUSINESS.

WHO'S THERE.

FIRST OF ALL, THOSE BUSINESS RULES ARE VISIBLE AND APPROVED, AND YOU CAN'T DO SOMETHING OUTSIDE OF THE BUSINESS RULES.

SO IT WON'T IT WON'T ALLOW YOU TO DO SOMETHING OUTSIDE.

SO I CAN IN COLLEGE OR OTHER SYSTEMS, YOU COULD GO IN AND PLAY GOD, IF YOU WILL, AND YOU COULD FORCE A TRANSACTION TO COMPLETE INDEPENDENTLY.

YOU CAN'T DO THAT IN WORKDAY.

THE OTHER THING IS THERE'S SEPARATION OF DUTIES THAT ARE STRICTLY ENFORCED.

SO, FOR EXAMPLE, TIM WILL KEEP ME STRAIGHT.

A GOOD EXAMPLE MIGHT BE AN ORGANIZATIONAL CHANGE.

THE HR TEAM HAS SOME SPECIFIC RULES BUILT IN WHERE ONLY A COUPLE OF PEOPLE IN THE HR TEAM CAN ACTUALLY MAKE HUMAN CHANGES TO THEIR RECORDS INSIDE OF HR.

AND ALSO THERE'S A THERE'S A WALL BETWEEN ADJUSTING THE SECURITY RULES ASSOCIATED WITH AN ORGANIZATION AND WHO A PERSON REPORTS TO.

SO THE HR TEAM CAN GO IN AND SAY, I'M GOING TO MOVE JIM PARKER TO WORK FROM BRAD, AND NOW HE'S GOING TO WORK FOR JOHN.

BUT THE ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURE THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH JIM PARKER REQUIRES SOMEBODY ELSE.

SO WHAT I CALL THAT IS WE USED TO CALL THAT.

INTEGRITY. IT TAKES TWO PEOPLE TO DO CERTAIN THINGS.

WELL, YOU COULD STILL I MEAN, NO SYSTEM IS PERFECT.

I MEAN, THERE ARE WAYS OF GETTING THROUGH THAT.

BUT YOU PUT IN A LOT OF BARRIERS.

WELL, AND MY CONCERN IS AND THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING, I'M ASSUMING IT HAS SOME MECHANISM, BUT SAY YOU'VE GOT SOMEBODY SITTING THERE SETTING UP WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR INITIALLY PUTTING PEOPLE INTO THE SYSTEM AND GETTING THEM SET UP.

WELL, SUPPOSE THAT PERSON DECIDES THAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO FIVE FICTITIOUS PEOPLE THAT WILL BE TRIGGERED TO GET A PAYCHECK.

YEAH. OR WHATEVER.

WHAT HAPPENS TO MAKE SURE THAT DOES NOT HAPPEN? YEAH, THAT'S WHERE THE TRANSPARENCY FOR IT ACTUALLY HAPPENS.

YES. YES, MA'AM. YOU UNDERSTAND? YES, MA'AM. YES, I THINK I DO.

THERE'S TWO STEPS IN THAT.

THERE'S TWO TWO FAIL SAFES THAT ARE BUILT INTO THAT BEFORE SOMEBODY CAN GET THROUGH THAT.

IT WOULD REQUIRE SEEING PEOPLE ON JOHN'S TEAM AND SENIOR PEOPLE ON LOOSE TEAM TO TO TO CORRUPT THE TWO COLLABORATE TO MAKE THAT WORK TO CONSPIRE I GUESS IS THE RIGHT LEGAL TERM AFFORDABLE LAWYERS ARE GOING TO WATCH THAT CONSPIRE SO THAT'S REQUIRES ONE PERSON CAN'T DO THE WHOLE THING IT'S DEPENDENT ON SOMEBODY ELSE GOING ALONG WHO ARE THE THINGS WE GOT WITH THIS THAT TIM JIM WAS EXPLAINING IS WHAT WE CALL POSITION CONTROL, WHICH WE'VE

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SO YOU GET AN ORG STRUCTURE AND THAT IS THE APPROVED ORG STRUCTURE.

YOU JUST CAN'T WILLY NILLY ADD PEOPLE TO THIS.

NOT ONLY THEY'RE THINGS LIKE I-9S AND W-2S AND STUFF LIKE THAT THAT HAVE TO BE FILLED OUT.

BUT THE BIGGEST THING IS YOU CAN'T JUST ADD WITHOUT THIS TWO PERSON FACTOR PROCESS TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE DON'T JUST GET ADDED TO THAT AND POSITIONS GET ADDED WHEN THEY SHOULDN'T BE.

SO POSITION CONTROL IS SOMETHING WE NEVER HAD.

THE BIGGEST THING WAS I NEVER KNEW HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE IN AN ORGANIZATION BECAUSE IF THE POSITION WAS VACANT THE WHOLE WAY, IT WENT AWAY.

IT WAS IMPORTANT CONTROL, NOT POSITION CONTROL.

NOW THE POSITION STAYS THERE.

SO WE CAN ACTUALLY TELL HOW MANY PEOPLE AND HOW MANY VACANCIES WE HAVE.

SCOTT REPORTED ON THAT LAST MONTH.

HE KNOWS THAT NOW BECAUSE HE CAN SEE AS AN ORGANIZATION WHAT HE HAS AVAILABLE AND WHAT POSITIONS NEED TO BE FILLED.

WE HAVE GOTTEN SO MUCH OUT OF THIS, JUST THAT ONE THING POSITION CONTROL.

WE'VE GOTTEN SO MUCH IMPROVEMENT OF OF CONTROL MECHANISMS THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE BEFORE.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT, JOHN, BRING YOUR TEAM BACK.

GO AGAIN, RESTART, NOT RESTART.

NOT MANY TIMES DO WE GIVE MULLIGANS HERE ONCE.

ONE TIME TO GET A MOTION TO GET.

THAT'S RIGHT. YOU GET TO STRIKE IT AGAIN.

OKAY. I TALKED ABOUT THIS EARLIER.

I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS PART REAL BRIEFLY.

WE'LL GET INTO WHAT YOU WERE SEEING WAS THAT WAS THE THE PRESENTATION WE USED WITH LEADERSHIP TO GO OVER THE WHOLE SCOPE OF PAGE.

AND HERE'S WHAT CAME OUT OF THAT MEETING AND WHAT'S BEEN REVISED.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE BRINGING TO YOU TODAY.

SO WE WENT BACK THROUGH THIS OF ALL THE AREAS WE HAD AND WHY WE NEEDED TO HAVE SOMEBODY HELP US ON THIS NEXT.

AND THEN MY PART, WE'VE GOT A MASTER SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH THEM FOR THE FULL STRATEGIC REAL ESTATE PLANNING FACILITY AND PLANNING, AND WE'VE DONE PHASE ONE.

WE'RE NOW WORKING ON PHASE TWO, WHICH LEONORA IS GOING TO HELP EXPLAIN WHAT PHASE TWO, WHAT PHASE TWO IS ABOUT.

SO WHAT WE DID IS WE REVISED KIND OF ALL OF THAT DEBT THAT YOU ALL SAW TO WHAT WE TRULY NEED, AND THAT IS TAILORED DOWN TO THESE THREE SCRIPTS THAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN.

AND WE ALSO PRIORITIZE THEM BASED ON THE TIMING WHEN WE NEED TO HAVE THIS WORK DONE AND COMPLETED.

SO WHAT YOU'LL SEE FIRST ON THE SCOPE ONE AT THE VERY TOP IS THE DOWNTOWN REAL ESTATE STRATEGY.

WHAT ARE WE DOING DOWNTOWN AND WHAT ARE WE GOING TO BE DOING ABOUT A LAND USE POLICY THAT IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO INFORM ALL THE OTHER WORK THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING AS FAR AS PLANNING GOES.

SO THAT'S WHAT SCOPE ONE HAS NOW BECOME.

SCOPE TWO IS OUR INNOVATION PLANNING AND IMPLEMENTATION.

SO WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO LOOK LIKE IN THE INNOVATION SPACE.

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN AS FAR AS HOW MUCH SPACE WE'RE GOING TO NEED, WHERE THAT SPACE SHOULD BE LOCATED, WHAT TYPE OF ACTIVITIES SHOULD BE HAPPENING IN THOSE SPACES? BUT WE KNOW THAT DOWNTOWN IS KIND OF HIGH PRIORITY AT THIS POINT, GIVEN THE TIMELINES THAT WE'RE THINKING THROUGH.

SO WE WILL FRONTLOAD OUR EFFORTS ON LOOKING AT INNOVATION FOR DOWNTOWN, KNOWING THAT THAT WILL HELP TRANSLATE TO WHAT WE'RE DOING ELSEWHERE AROUND THE COUNTY.

THE THIRD ONE IS KIND OF OUR LONG TERM STRATEGIC REAL ESTATE AND FACILITIES PLAN.

SO WHAT WE HAVE HERE ARE A NUMBER OF ACTIVITIES THAT WILL HELP SUPPORT US IN ALIGNING ALL OF OUR PREVIOUS PLANS THAT WE'VE PUT INTO PLACE.

SO WE REFERENCED THE EDUCATIONAL PLAN, WE REFERENCED OUR FACILITIES MASTER PLANNING.

WE HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF DIFFERENT PLANS THAT WERE MADE AT DIFFERENT POINTS IN TIME, BUT WE REALLY NEED A TRUE ALIGNMENT IN A STRATEGIC WAY OF MOVING FORWARD WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH OUR FACILITIES.

SO THAT'S OUR THREE SCOPES AS IT SITS CURRENTLY.

AND THEN THIS NEXT SLIDE.

YES, MA'AM. SO ON THE ADDITIONAL SERVICE, THE LONG TERM STRATEGIC REAL ESTATE AND FACILITIES PLANNING SERVICES.

SO WHEN WE GO TO THE NEXT PHASE IN TERMS OF THE DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT, CAN PAGE SUBMIT IDEAS OF INNOVATION, HOW THEY THINK THEY SHOULD BE STRUCTURED.

YEAH, NOTHING PRECLUDES THEM FROM DOING THAT.

THAT'S CORRECT. BUT THE INNOVATION PART, QUITE FRANKLY, WITH PIPER'S HELP, HAS BEEN STRUCTURED TO GIVE HER ONLY WHAT SHE NEEDS AND IT FINISHES THIS FISCAL YEAR. WE SHORTEN THE WHOLE SCOPE, GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

IF YOU SEE NUMBER TWO ON HERE, THAT'S DONE THIS YEAR.

AND THEN BECAUSE PIPER SAID THERE ARE THINGS ON THESE TASKS THAT I CAN THINK TO CONTINUE THIS PROCESS MOVING FORWARD.

SO WE WORKED WITH HER ON WHAT SHE TRULY NEEDED FROM PAGE AND TOOK OUT THE REST.

AND SO THAT IS IN IT SHORTENED THE SCOPE OF WHAT WE HAD TO DO.

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WHAT DO THEY SEE AS SPACE AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT GO ALONG WITH THAT COMPARED TO WHAT WE DID HAVE.

BUT WE'RE NOT HOLDING OURSELVES JUST TO REPLICATE WHAT WE HAD.

IT'S THAT IDEA OF, WELL, WHAT DO WE NEED THAT WOULD BE A PART OF INNOVATION IS WHAT IS NEEDED DOWNTOWN.

WELL, AND THAT'S WHAT I MEANT.

I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT DIMENSION RFP AND PUBLIC I JUST DID.

THAT'S WHY I SAID THAT AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS REALLY TALKING ABOUT.

SO PAGE WOULD NOT BE RESPONDING TO THE RFP? DEFINITELY NOT. NO.

OKAY. THEY'LL BE EVALUATING WHAT ACTUAL SHAWNDA WILL HELP US ON THE EVALUATIONS.

OKAY. SO ANOTHER QUESTION ON SLIDE THREE.

PHASE ONE, THE DECISION MAKING FRAMEWORK.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING THEY'VE GIVEN TO YOU ALL THAT YOU ALL SHARED THAT WITH THE BOARD? WE DID. IN FACT, WHEN THE CHANCELLOR DID HIS PRESENTATION AT THE RETREAT, HE BUILT THAT WHOLE MODEL OF THE DECISION MAKING FRAMEWORK INTO THAT.

WHAT WE JUST TALKED WAS THE ONLINE VERSION TO THIS THAT I'M WORKING WITH.

NORA AND I ARE WORKING WITH JIM AND PAM ON TO TURN THIS OUT WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO ONLINE AND DO THE DECISION MAKING FRAMEWORK.

IT'S A REAL NICE IMPROVEMENT THAN FILLING OUT PAPER.

I LOOK LIKE JESUS IS TALKING ABOUT WITH WORKDAY, BUT STOP OUR WORKDAY.

YEAH, WELL, YOU KNOW, WE GET A LOT OF THINGS PRESENTED TO US.

THE DECISION MAKING FRAMEWORK CERTAINLY DID NOT STICK IN MY MIND IF I COULD HAVE THAT INFORMATION AGAIN.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

SO THIS IS KIND OF WHAT WE'RE THINKING TO DO.

THREE SCOPES. SO IT JUST KIND OF LAYS OUT OUR PLANS OF GETTING THIS WORK STARTED.

SO ARE THERE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? SO, SO ONCE WE'VE DECIDED WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IN TERMS OF THE DOWNTOWN FACILITIES, WHEN WOULD WE START? IT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

AND YOU KNOW, WE WON'T START BEFORE WE'RE READY.

I KNOW YOU DIDN'T WANT TO HEAR THAT, BUT WE HAVE WE HAVE THE RFP WILL BE OUT ON THE STREET FOR A MINIMUM OF 60 DAYS.

AND THEN THAT HAS TO BE REVIEWED.

IDEAS TAKEN FROM THAT AND THEN AN RFQ RFP, WOULD IT? PROBABLY THE RFP HAS TO BE DEVELOPED AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GOING TO NEED A TEAM OF PEOPLE WHO CAN REALLY HELP US DEVELOP WHAT IS THAT STRUCTURE BEFORE THAT GOES OUT ON THE STREET? IT WILL NOT HAPPEN VERY FAST.

AND IN TERMS OF THE RFQ, BY THAT POINT, WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE WANT.

NOW, WHEN WE SAY EXACTLY THAT WOULD BE THE MORE THE RFP STAGE, BUT WE WOULD HAVE A MUCH BETTER IDEA TO BE ABLE TO STRUCTURE THE RFP, JUST ASK FOR IDEAS.

IT TAKES A VISION THAT WE HAVE.

IT HELPS US UNDERSTAND, IN FACT, QUITE FRANKLY, WE OUGHT TO BE USING RFIS MORE ON SOME OF THE THINGS WE WE LOOK FOR SO THAT WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING TO DO THE RFP. BUT THE RFP WOULD ACTUALLY BE I NEED 540,000FT² OF ACADEMIC SPACE OR I NEED 200,000FT² OF ADMINISTRATIVE SPACE OR WHATEVER IT IS.

THE RFP WOULD BE MORE WHERE WE'RE INTO THE SPECIFICS OF EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE BEING ABLE TO DO.

SO THEN WHAT WOULD THE RFQ ASK FOR? REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS, BUT QUALIFICATIONS TO BUILD A COMPLEX DOWNTOWN? VERY MUCH SO. DEVELOPMENT, YES.

IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE POSSIBILITY OF A OF A P3 PRIVATE PUBLIC PARTNERSHIP, THEN THAT WOULD BE THAT PERIOD OF TIME FOR THOSE QUALIFICATIONS WOULD BE COMING IN. THEN MEAN THAT BE THE DECISION MADE, BUT THAT WOULD BE THE PHASE, YOU KNOW, AND WHERE I REALLY SEE THE VALUE SO VALUABLE FOR PAGE AND HRA IS GOING TO BE WHEN THE RFP DATA, WHEN ALL THAT COMES BACK IN, IT'S EITHER GOING TO BE DRINKING FROM A FIRE HOSE OR A STRAW AND HOPEFULLY THEY'RE GOING TO BRING IT TO THE STRAW WHERE WE CAN ABSORB IT AND USE IT VALUABLE SORT THROUGH THE REAL MEMORY.

OKAY. SO PLEASE BEAR WITH ME AND HELP EDUCATE ME.

SO THE RFQ, THAT'S MORE FOR THE DEVELOPERS TO RESPOND TO.

IT WOULD BE AGAIN, IT WOULD BE OPEN TO ANYBODY WHO WANTED TO RESPOND.

YEAH, BUT TYPICALLY WHO WOULD RESPOND? CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES, DEVELOPERS, OTHERS WHO WANTED TO PARTNER WITH THIS WHOLE IDEA OF WHATEVER THEY COULD BRING, IT COULD BE A MULTIPLE OF PEOPLE.

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THERE MIGHT BE A TEAM OF SOMEBODY WHO WOULD BUILD A BUILDING, BUT OTHER TEAMS THAT WOULD BUILD STUDENT HOUSING, I OPERATED AND RUN IT.

IT'S REALLY OPEN RIGHT NOW.

SO UNTIL WE GET THE RFP BACK IN, WE REALLY DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW PEOPLE ARE THINKING IN THE INDUSTRY.

BUT WE EXPECT SOMETHING A BIGGER VISION THAN WHAT WE'VE EVER SEEN.

AND YOU MAY THERE COULD BE A SITUATION WHERE YOU WOULDN'T DO AN RFQ IF IT WAS SO CLEAR AND SO DEFINED AND EVERYTHING, AND THE BOARD WAS WANTING TO GO IN A DIRECTION, YOU COULD LITERALLY GO TO AN RFP RIGHT AWAY.

WELL, THAT'S SUPPOSE WE WENT TO RFQ.

HOW DOES THE RFQ THEN RELATE TO THE RFP? AND IF YOU COULD JUST DO A CHEAT SHEET SO WHEN THESE THINGS IT LEAVES MY MIND, I CAN REFER TO THE CHEAT SHEET.

OKAY. THANK YOU. CALL AS THE VIENNA CHIEF.

GO AHEAD. ALL RIGHT.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? I HAVE A QUESTION.

YES, MA'AM. DO YOU HAVE YOU MADE A COMMENT? CORRECT. AND THEN I NOTICED ON PAGE THREE, IT SAYS RFP THREE.

ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE COMPANY HELPED YOU PUT TOGETHER AFTER THEY REVIEWED IT, NOT AIR? AND WE HAD A LAW FIRM BY THE NAME OF NOSSAMAN WHO REVIEWED OUR.

HORRIFIED. WE DEVELOPED THE ARCHIVE BASICALLY OURSELVES WITH THE DRAFT.

YES. AND THEN HAD PEOPLE REVIEW IT TO GIVE US THEIR INPUT.

WHAT WASN'T CLEAR WHAT WHAT NEEDED TO BE REWORKED IN SOME WAY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND GAVE US INPUT ON IT.

SO YOU USED AN OUTSIDE LAW FIRM TO BASICALLY LOOK AT WHAT YOU ALL HAD PUT TOGETHER AND THAT WOULD SAY ANOTHER SET OF EYES.

YES. OKAY.

NOW, WHEN YOU SAY ALL RIGHT BY EVALUATOR, DID YOU MEAN PUTTING THAT DOCUMENT TOGETHER OR WHEN THE RESPONSES COME BACK THAT THIS COMPANY WOULD BE ON THE EVALUATION TEAM, THAT THEY WOULD BE A TOOL THAT THAT THE IN-HOUSE TEAM, THE STAFF WOULD BE USING? IT GIVES THEM TOOLS THAT THEY DON'T EMPLOY.

THEY. TODAY. WE DON'T HAVE THE LUXURY OF HAVING THOSE PEOPLE BECAUSE THESE PEOPLE ALL ARE IN THE PROFESSION OF, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE SAME PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE HERE WILL PROBABLY BE IN ANOTHER CONTRACTUAL ROLE OF ADVISING SOMEBODY TO RESPOND TO AN RFI.

SO THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO CAN TAKE AND BREAK DOWN THE DATA AND HELP THE TEAM MANAGE IT TO THE TO THE RIGHT ANSWER TO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.

SO THERE ARE A LOT LIKE WHAT JIM DESCRIBED THIS TEAM THAT HE HAS THAT HANDLES THE CONVERSION PROBLEMS, THE DIFFERENT PROBLEMS. SO PAGE AND HRA ARE A TOOL THAT'S GIVEN TO THE CHANCELLOR AND HIS TEAM TO BE ABLE TO COME IN TO US WITH A RECOMMENDATION OF WHAT THEY SEE. SO IT'S NO DECISION MAKING? NO, THEY DON'T. THEY'RE NOT THE DECISION MAKERS AT ALL.

BUT. BUT.

WHOA, WHOA, WHOA, WHOA, WHOA.

OH. LET'S BE CLEAR HERE.

YOU'RE SAYING THAT THIS COMPANY WOULD BECOME PART OF OUR INTERNAL EVALUATION TEAM, SO.

I DIDN'T SAY THAT.

NO, WHAT I SAID. NO, LET ME TELL YOU WHAT I SAID.

I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU DID SAY.

YOU WERE SAYING THAT IT'S A TOOL THAT WE'RE GIVEN TO THE CHANCELLOR AND HIS TEAM TO HELP MAKE DECISIONS.

AND THAT'S NOT MAKING A DECISION.

THAT'S THAT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN JIM HAS THIS INDIVIDUAL WHO'S GOT 15 SYSTEMS BEHIND HIM KNOWING WHAT PROBLEMS LOOK LIKE AND HOW TO FIX THEM AND NOT HAVE TO STUDY AND SUMMER AROUND TO GET IT DONE.

AND THAT'S WHY HAVING THOSE TOOLS ALONG YOUR SIDE WITH YOUR STAFF, YOU CAN MOVE THROUGH A PROCESS.

OTHERWISE THESE PROCESSES TAKE FOREVER AND EVER AND EVER.

AND THAT'S WHY THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE CONSULTANTS THAT ARE EQUIPPED THE WAY THEY ARE.

IT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE DID WITH WORKDAY.

IT'S NO DIFFERENT AT ALL.

BUT THEY'RE BECOMING YOU SAID THEY'RE NOT MAKING A DECISION, BUT THEY'RE BECOMING PART OF THE DECISION

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ANY TOOL IS PART OF ANYTHING A TOOL.

DIGGING A HOLE WHEN I'M PUSHING.

AND CLIFF IS THIS IS OUR PROJECT.

THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING.

AND WE'RE BASICALLY CONTRACTED OUT TO AN OUTSIDE COMPANY, PART OF THE DECISION MAKING PROCESS RATHER THAN IT BEING THE CHANCELLOR AND HIS LEADERSHIP TEAM.

Y'ALL KEEP SHAKING YOUR HEADS, BUT Y'ALL GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE ME UNDERSTAND WE MAYBE CAN BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE TO ME.

MAYBE I CAN BRING SOME CLARITY.

AND AS YOU COME UP, I MEAN, THINK OF IT THIS WAY, IS THAT OUR GENERAL COUNSEL GIVES ME AND THIS BOARD LEGAL ADVICE, I CAN TAKE THAT OR I CAN DISREGARD THAT.

BUT HE'S GOT EXPERTISE THAT THAT HELPS INFORM.

SO, YOU KNOW, SIMILAR TO THAT KIND OF THINKING THAT THAT'S NOT PART OF THE DECISION, BUT THAT'S A TOOL TO HELP UNDERSTAND AND I THINK WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS LET ME SAY THIS AND THEN PLEASE, UH, AND YOU CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, YOU ALL ARE TREADING INTO WATER THAT YOU DON'T COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND YOURSELF.

IS THAT A REASONABLE STATEMENT? WELL, I THINK THAT THE ASSISTANCE OF CONSULTANTS IS IMPORTANT IN A PROJECT OF THIS COMPLEXITY.

LET ME SAY THAT. BUT BUT BUT I THINK I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, WHICH IS WE'RE NOT RELYING ON OUTSIDE CONSULTANTS TO MAKE ANY DECISIONS.

IN FACT, I THINK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SEMANTICS HERE.

AND I WANT TO. LIES WITH THE MORE ABSOLUTE AND ALWAYS WILL.

WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS THAT AN OUTSIDE COMPANY, THEY'RE HAVING SOME INFLUENCE OVER WHAT OUR DECISION MAY LOOK LIKE RATHER THAN US TAKING WHATEVER INFORMATION AND ASKING OUR STAFF, THE PEOPLE WHO REPORT TO US TO ANSWER OUR QUESTIONS AND CLARIFY AND SO FORTH.

SO. BUT GO AHEAD.

WELL, THAT'S. ANYMORE.

AND I THINK THAT'S A VERY GOOD POINT.

WHAT THE CHANCELLOR JUST READ.

WHEN I GIVE LEGAL ADVICE AS GENERAL COUNSEL, I'M ACTING FROM A POSITION OF EXPERTISE, HOPEFULLY, AND PROVIDING YOU ADVICE AND COUNSEL WITH RESPECT TO A LEGAL MATTER.

NOT ALL OF YOU ARE LAWYERS, AND I RECOGNIZE THAT WE WE WE PROVIDE ADVICE AND COUNSEL.

THE CLIENT CAN CHOOSE TO FOLLOW THE ADVICE OR NOT FOLLOW THE ADVICE.

IT'S THE CLIENT'S DECISION, WHAT ADVICE THEY WANT, WHAT DIRECTION THEY TAKE, WHAT COURSE OF ACTION THEY TAKE.

BUT I WANT TO BE REALLY CLEAR HERE, BECAUSE I THINK WE GOT KIND OF MIXED UP.

TALKING ABOUT ASSISTANCE OF AN HRA OR PAGE SOUTHERLAND PAGE.

WE HAVE THE. PRELIMINARY STAGES OF A PROJECT.

THE DOWNTOWN PROJECT.

THE RFI REQUEST FOR INFORMATION IS THE VERY FIRST STEP IN THAT PROCESS.

AND TO TRUSTEE FLORES'S POINT, I LIKE TO THINK OF IT AS KIND OF A FUNNEL AS YOU GO THROUGH.

WE'RE HERE WHERE WE'RE GETTING LOTS OF INFORMATION AND IT HAS TO BE SYNTHESIZED AND AND CONSIDERED AND IT MOVES TO TO A MORE SPECIFICITY AS WE GET TO AN RFQ AND ULTIMATELY TO AN RFP.

IF WE GO IF WE GO A THREE STEP PROCESS, BY THE TIME YOU GET THAT RFP, YOU WILL HAVE SYNTHESIZED AND DISTILLED THAT INFORMATION TO A POINT WHERE YOU CAN MAKE A A AN INFORMED DECISION ABOUT WHAT YOU NEED.

THE POINT I WANTED TO MAKE WAS WE HIRE CONSULTANTS ALL THE TIME.

WE HAVE OUTSIDE COUNSEL THAT COME AND PUT.

LEGAL ADVICE ON TO DALLAS COLLEGE, WHICH IS THE CLIENT.

AT MY REQUEST, WHEN WE HAVE A MATTER THAT I NEED SPECIAL EXPERTISE ON.

THIS IS A MATTER WHERE WE'VE IDENTIFIED THE NEED FOR SPECIAL EXPERTISE.

THESE FOLKS HAVE IT.

THEY WENT THROUGH AN EXHAUSTIVE PROCESS TO IDENTIFY THEM, AND THEY CAN BRING THAT EXPERTISE TO BEAR.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SYNTHESIZE, WE BEING DALLAS COLLEGE.

THAT MEANS THE BOARD AND ALL OF THE STAFF ARE GOING TO HAVE TO SYNTHESIZE A GREAT DEAL OF INFORMATION.

HOPEFULLY, IF WE GET GOOD RESPONSES TO THE RFI, THERE MAY BE QUESTIONS.

WE HAVE THAT AN EXPERT LIKE A PAGE SOUTHERLAND PAGE OR HRA OR NOSSAMAN, WHICH IS A LAW FIRM THAT WAS REFERENCED.

I ENGAGE THEM TO HELP US BECAUSE THE LEGAL COMPLEXITIES OF THIS KIND OF A PROCESS ARE SUCH THAT IT HELPS TO HAVE AN OUTSIDE FIRM THAT DOES ONLY THIS.

THAT'S ALL THEY DO IS REPRESENT AND THEY ONLY REPRESENT GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES.

THEY DON'T REPRESENT DEVELOPERS.

SO THEY HAVE. AND SO THERE HERE IS GUARDRAILS TO SAY THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THEM LOOK AT THE RFI.

THIS IS WHAT'S IMPORTANT FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT WHEN YOU DO AN RFI OF THIS NATURE.

SO WE'RE GOING TO RELY UPON THEM NOT TO MAKE OUR DECISION FOR US, BUT TO HELP US MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION.

AND I HOPE THAT'S HELPFUL.

WELL, IF ARE YOU GOING TO MAKE A COMMENT? TRUSTEE OH, I HAVE ONE LAST THING, BUT GO AHEAD.

WELL, IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT IN TERMS OF FOR MYSELF, WE HAVE NOT BEEN THE DALLAS COLLEGE BOARD OF TRUSTEES AT ANY POINT SINCE THE FOUNDING BOARD HAS

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AND WE'VE ALREADY MADE THE CASE VERY STRONGLY ABOUT THE NEED FOR MWP INCLUSION.

AND I CAN'T SPEAK FOR ANY OTHER TRUSTEE, BUT I'M TRUSTING THAT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.

HOWEVER, I WOULDN'T WANT ANY OF YOU AROUND THIS TABLE, AND CERTAINLY NOT ME, TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS OR TO MAKE DECISIONS WITHOUT CONSULTING THOSE THAT HAVE EXPERTISE IN THESE AREAS, TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS AND TO GUIDE US SO THAT TO USE A COUNCIL WEINLAND'S TERM, MAKE INFORMED DECISIONS. I MEAN, I CAN'T DO IT ON MY OWN POSSIBLY IF I HAVE SOME CONCERNS BASED ON WHERE WE ARE AT THIS POINT.

I VOICED THOSE CONCERNS, BUT I STILL AM GOING TO DEPEND ON THE EXPERTISE THAT'S GOING TO BE BROUGHT FORWARD TO THEN MOVE US TO THE NEXT POINT.

BECAUSE AGAIN, I TAKE VERY SERIOUSLY THE 40 TO 50 YEAR DECISION WE'RE MAKING AT THIS POINT.

YES, MA'AM. WE HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION.

OH, ON PAGE FOUR, IT SAYS UNDER NUMBER TWO, THE LAST PART, AS WELL AS THE VIEW OF AN OVERALL GOVERNANCE STRUCTURE, GOVERNANCE STRUCTURE.

I MEAN, WHAT DOES IT MEAN WORKING WITH PIPER? WHAT THEY'LL DEVELOP IS HOW HOW SHOULD WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN INNOVATION.

AND DR. WILTON, WOULD YOU RATHER SPEAK TO THAT FOR ME? I'M GETTING EVERY TIME THEY ASK ME AN INNOVATION, I WISH YOU WERE HERE WITH ME BECAUSE REALLY, OUT OF MY CRITIQUE, IT'S A VERY PREMATURE DISCUSSION.

BUT IT IS TALKING ABOUT IF WE WERE TO HAVE AN INNOVATION HUB AND A STRUCTURE THAT SUPPORTED INNOVATION, THAT COULD RETURN SOMETHING OF VALUE DALLAS COLLEGE HOW WOULD WE GOVERN THAT ENTITY? WOULD IT BE AN ORGANIZATION LIKE OUR CURRENT FOUNDATION THAT IS A SEPARATE 500 AND 1C3 WITH A SEPARATE BOARD OF DIRECTORS? MAYBE IT WOULD MAKE WOULD WOULD IT BE AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TYPE ORGANIZATION THAT IT WOULD BE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ORGANIZATION THAT WE WOULD USE TO HELP ROLL OUT WHATEVER OUR INNOVATION STRATEGY BECOMES, WHICH THAT'S ANOTHER DECISION THAT WE ALL HAVE TO MAKE TOGETHER.

SO THE GOVERNANCE PIECE JUST TALKS TO THAT.

HOW WOULD WE SET SOMETHING UP LIKE THAT? AND WE DON'T HAVE THE EXPERTISE TO KNOW HOW TO DO THAT.

OKAY. HOW DO OUR BOARD.

WE ARE ORGANIZED AND GOVERNED BY THE LAWS OF THE STATE OF TEXAS.

YES. SO MY QUESTION IS, CAN ONE GOVERNANCE BODY CONTROL ANOTHER GOVERNANCE BODY IN THIS TYPE OF SCENARIO? WELL, I SEE HERE WHAT YOU'RE ASKING ME, AND YES, IT'S POSSIBLE TO DO SO.

DEVELOPMENT CORPORATIONS ARE A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF THAT.

THERE ARE FOUR A AND FOUR B, THOSE ARE IN THE MUNICIPAL REALM.

CITY COUNCILS CREATE THEM.

THEY'RE SEPARATE ENTITIES, BUT THEY'RE MANAGED AND DIRECTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL IN SOME RESPECT.

THEY ALSO HAVE INDEPENDENT AUTHORITY, AS, AS DR.

WILKINS SAID, WE'RE WAY AHEAD OF OURSELVES WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT GOVERNANCE, STRUCTURE AROUND INNOVATION.

AND I HESITATE TO GET TOO DEEP INTO THAT BECAUSE THAT IS ONE SCENARIO.

ANOTHER MIGHT BE IN INTERNAL GOVERNANCE ABOUT HOW WE LOOK AT INNOVATION AND HOW WE WHERE WE PUT IT, HOW WE HOW WE ORGANIZE AROUND IT.

SO THAT'S ANOTHER THAT'S ANOTHER THING THAT WE MIGHT BE LOOKING AT IN THE FUTURE.

BUT BUT IT WOULD NOT BE UNDER THE LAWS OF THE STATE OF TEXAS.

IT WOULD NOT BE IMPOSSIBLE FOR THIS BOARD TO DETERMINE TO CREATE A SEPARATE ENTITY TO MANAGE THE AFFAIRS OF SOME PROJECT OR INITIATIVE.

IT'S DONE. IT'S DONE FAIRLY COMMONLY.

IT HAS TO BE DONE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE LAW, BUT IT CAN BE DONE.

AND THEN WHAT THAT STRUCTURE MIGHT LOOK LIKE AND WHAT IT MIGHT ULTIMATELY DO WOULD BE A QUESTION FOR ANOTHER DAY.

BUT BUT LEGALLY, IT COULD BE DONE.

AND I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT IT CAN AND DOES HAPPEN WITH SOME REGULARITY IN THE STATE OF TEXAS.

BUT I WANT TO MAKE ONE OTHER POINT, IF I CAN, SINCE I'M UP HERE NOW.

BUT THE TRUTH IS, WE'RE, AS I SAID, VERY SHORT, YOU KNOW.

BUT THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS, WE'RE THE VERY INITIAL STAGES OF THIS PROJECT, AS WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING.

WE'RE AT THE RFI STAGE.

I DARE SAY BY THE TIME WE GET TO THE PROJECT, WE WILL HAVE TO ENGAGE THE SERVICES OF MANY OTHERS TO ASSIST US IN THE EVALUATION OF IT.

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IT WOULDN'T BE FISCALLY IRRESPONSIBLE TO EMPLOY THAT KIND OF TALENT BECAUSE WE DON'T NEED IT ALL THE TIME.

BUT THERE ARE CERTAIN DISCREET FUNCTIONS THAT WE WILL NEED TO HELP US GET THIS PROJECT TO COME OUT OF THE GROUND EVENTUALLY.

AND WE WILL BE LOOKING TO ENGAGE THOSE PEOPLE AS PARTNERS WITH US, WORKING FOR US AS CONSULTANTS FOR US OVER THE COURSE OF THIS PROJECT.

AND THERE ARE MANY OPPORTUNITIES FOR THAT IN THE FUTURE.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS. REMINDED THAT HAVE THE AGENDA ITEM? YEAH, IT IS AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OTHERWISE, I'M GOING TO LET THE COUNSELOR TALK TO US ABOUT.

YES, MA'AM. OH, I HAVE MIXED EMOTIONS ABOUT THIS AND I HAVEN'T QUITE DECIDED IF I'M GOING TO VOTE FOR IT OR NOT.

IT BOTHERS ME WHEN I FEEL LIKE WE'RE SKATING CLOSE TO THE EDGE OF GIVING COMPANIES AND SO MORE INFLUENCE OVER OUR FINAL DECISIONS OF WHAT'S RECOMMENDED TO US.

AND THEN THE BOARD HAS, AT THE END OF THE DAY AND THE ONLY THING I CAN DO AND WATCHING ALL THIS AND GOING ALONG AND SO FORTH IS EXERCISE THE RIGHT TO VOTE, YES OR NO.

BUT IT'S A LOT OF LITTLE THINGS THAT REALLY BOTHERED ME ABOUT THIS.

IN ADDITION TO I NEED A COMMITMENT FROM THE STAFF THAT THEY'RE GOING TO PUT TOGETHER ON ALL THE FULL SPECTRUM OF OUR THIS A MINORITY BUSINESS PLAN THAT'S GOING TO GUIDE PARTICIPATION AND OPPORTUNITIES.

AND I HAVE NOT SEEN THAT SO FAR.

YOU KNOW, I'VE HEARD, YOU KNOW, AND YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT IT, BUT I HAVE NOT SEEN ANYTHING IN WRITING THAT SAYS WE'RE COMMITTED AND THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO AND WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, BECAUSE REALLY, THE RFQ, THE RF, ALL OF THAT STUFF, I THINK THAT WHEN THESE COMPANIES COME TO THE TABLE AND I DON'T CARE IF IT'S NOTHING BUT $2, THEY OUGHT TO BE REQUIRED TO SUBMIT A PLAN AS TO WHAT THEY DO OR WHAT THEY'RE COMMITTING TO DO TO EXPAND OPPORTUNITIES IN ALL OF THE COMMUNITIES IN OUR COUNTY.

BUT THAT'S KIND OF HOW I FEEL ABOUT ALL THIS STUFF.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. JASMINE. ALL RIGHT.

WE'LL GIVE THE OTHER SIDE OF THE TABLE.

I'M GOING TO ASK DOUG RICHARDS TO JOIN ME.

[4.3. Legislative Update ]

THE MULTITUDE OF BILLS THAT ARE BEING FILED THIS LEGISLATIVE SESSION.

AND SO SOME OF THIS I'VE TALKED ABOUT THE LAST TIME THAT I WAS HERE AS THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE FINANCE COMMISSION WAS BEGINNING ITS TO FINALIZE ITS RECOMMENDATIONS.

AND WE HAD RAY MARTINEZ HERE FROM TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF COMMUNITY COLLEGE AND FLOYD.

SHAPIRO THAT THAT JOINED IN THAT CONVERSATION.

SO THIS IS A BIT OF AN UPDATE SINCE THAT TIME FRAME.

AND SO WE'LL START WITH THIS.

THIS IS A SLIDE THAT THE COMMISSIONER OF HIGHER EDUCATION HERE IN TEXAS USES IN HIS PRESENTATIONS TO KIND OF GIVE CONTEXT TO WHAT'S GOING ON IN TEXAS RIGHT NOW, THAT WE'RE THE NINTH LARGEST ECONOMY IN THE WORLD BY GDP, THE 2,025% OF ALL NEW JOBS IN THE LAST YEAR WERE CREATED IN TEXAS, AND WE WERE THE NUMBER ONE IN THE NATION IN JOB CREATION OVER THIS PAST YEAR. SO THAT'S THE CONTEXT BY WHICH THE LEGISLATURE IS CONSIDERING.

WHAT IS THE ROLE OF COMMUNITY COLLEGES IN HELPING SUPPORT ALL OF THIS? YEAH, WE JUST SKIPPED A FEW SLIDES, SO IF WE COULD GO TO LIKE THE THIRD SLIDE 13

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THANKS. SO AGAIN, I WON'T GO THROUGH ALL OF THIS, BUT THIS YOU KNOW, THIS WAS THESE WERE THE HEADLINES THAT CAME OUT OF THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE FINANCE COMMISSION RECOMMENDATIONS THAT NOW HAVE TURNED INTO HOUSE BILL EIGHT.

HOUSE BILL EIGHT IS THE VEHICLE BY WHICH THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE GOING TO BE CONSIDERED BY THE LEGISLATURE.

SO HOUSE BILL EIGHT, WHAT DO YOU NOTICE ABOUT THAT? THAT IS A LOW BILL NUMBER.

WHAT DOES THAT INDICATE? THAT INDICATES THAT THAT IS PRIORITY BY THE LEGISLATIVE LEADERSHIP, THAT THIS IS A BILL THAT NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED AND HEARD WHEN BILLS GET FILED AND PRE FILED.

THE THE LEGISLATIVE LEADERSHIP HOLDS THE LOW THE LOW LOW NUMBERS FOR FOR A TIME PERIOD.

AND THEN LEGISLATORS MAKE THEIR ARGUMENTS ABOUT, HEY, WHAT'S IMPORTANT, WHAT'S NOT IMPORTANT, AND THEY RELEASE THOSE LOWER NUMBERS SO THAT WE HAVE A HOUSE BILL EIGHT SPEAKS TO THE COMMITMENT AND THE SENSE OF URGENCY OF LEGISLATIVE LEADERSHIP.

AGAIN, THAT, YOU KNOW, MAIN HEADLINES COMING OUT OF THAT FINANCE COMMISSION WORK INTO THIS BILL IS IS OUTCOMES BASED FUNDING, AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, MOVING FROM A LARGELY ENROLLMENT DRIVEN 1 TO 1 THAT'S FOCUSED ON OUTCOMES.

AND THAT LAST LINE THERE SAYS DOES NOT THIS TRANSITION THAT DOES NOT NEGATIVELY IMPACT STUDENTS OR COMMUNITY COLLEGES, THAT IS PART OF PART OF THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS THAT AS THIS BILL IS CONSIDERED, THERE ARE A LOT OF ELEMENTS TO BE WORKED OUT.

SOME OF THOSE MAY BE LEGISLATIVE THINGS THAT ARE WORKED OUT, AND SOME OF THOSE MAY BE ONCE THE BILL IS PASSED, THAT THE COORDINATING BOARD WILL HAVE RULEMAKING AUTHORITY ON SOME OF THOSE THINGS. BUT THIS ONE, THAT LAST ONE SPEAKS TO KIND OF WHAT SOME OF THE CONVERSATION IS RIGHT NOW AROUND HOLD HARMLESS.

SO THE CONVERSATION IS AND I'LL GET INTO THE SOME OF THIS IN THE LATER SLIDES THAT AS THIS TRANSITION INTO A NEW FORMULA MOVES FROM THE CURRENT ONE INTO THIS ONE, HOW ARE COLLEGES IMPACTED? AND SO IF THERE IS A NEGATIVE IMPACT MOVING FROM ONE TO THE NEXT, THAT THERE WOULD BE A HOLD HARMLESS PERIOD BY WHICH TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT TRANSITION AND HOLD HARMLESS DOLLARS THAT WOULD KEEP INSTITUTIONS WHOLE? AND AGAIN, I'LL SHOW THIS IN ACTION HERE IN A MINUTE.

YES, MA'AM. SO IF THIS IS ADOPTED AND THIS IS HOW WE'RE GOING TO BE FUNDED, CONTACT OUR REIMBURSEMENT GOES AWAY, OR IS IT A COMBINATION OF THAT AND OUTCOMES BASED FUNDING? SO THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S PART OF WHAT IS STILL TO BE COOKED.

BUT BUT LARGELY THE ENROLLMENT PORTION, THE 12TH CLASS DAY, HOW MANY PEOPLE DO YOU HAVE IN THOSE SECTIONS THAT WE ARE GOING TO COMPENSATE FOR? YOU GET MINIMIZED AND MOVEMENTS AGAIN, PRIMARILY TO OUTCOMES BASED FUNDING.

WHAT IS HAPPENING TO THOSE STUDENTS WHILE THEY'RE WITH YOU? AND AGAIN, THE THE MEASURES AND THERE'S SOME SOME OF THEM IN THERE, THE MEASURES BY WHICH TO JUDGE SUCCESS AND TO JUDGE SUCCESSFUL OUTCOMES OBVIOUSLY BECOME IMPORTANT.

YOU ASKED THIS MORNING ABOUT.

LEVEL IPEDS DATA.

YOU KNOW, THAT, FOR INSTANCE, HAS NEVER BEEN A GOOD MEASURE FOR THE SUCCESS OF OF OUR STUDENTS BECAUSE IT ACCOUNTED FOR ABOUT 5 TO 10% OF OUR OVERALL STUDENT POPULATION.

FIRST TIME FULL TIME STUDENTS LEFT OUT THAT THAT FEDERAL POLICY LEFT OUT THE 90% OF OUR STUDENTS ARE.

SO THAT'S THAT'S THE BEAUTY OF WHAT WE HAVE DONE WITH THE OVER THE PERIOD OF TIME WITH THE FINANCE COMMISSION AND NOW WORKING WITH THE LEGISLATURE AND THE COORDINATING BOARD, THE COMMISSIONER TO HELP MAKE SURE THAT THOSE SUCCESS MEASURES THAT DO GET IMPLEMENTED RECOGNIZE THE JOURNEY OF OUR STUDENTS AND TRACK WHAT THEIR OUTCOMES MEAN.

AGAIN, YOU KNOW, IPADS AND OTHER THINGS.

OUR STUDENTS, YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY AREN'T GOING TO COME HERE AND GET AN ASSOCIATE'S DEGREE, A TWO YEAR DEGREE AND GET IT WITHIN TWO YEARS. THAT'S JUST NOT NECESSARILY THE JOURNEY AND EXPERIENCE OF OUR STUDENTS.

SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT OUTCOMES AND GRADUATION RATES, WE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT IT'S DEFINED BY HOW OUR STUDENTS ARE SUCCESSFUL.

YES, MA'AM. I KNOW THAT WE'VE TRIED IN THE PAST AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL TO GET THOSE STANDARDS CHANGED.

ARE WE DOING ANYTHING THIS GO AROUND? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S ONGOING? IT IS. WE STILL HAVEN'T HAD SUCCESS.

IT IS ONGOING.

THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION HAS MADE SOME TWEAKS AND SOME CHANGES.

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SO IT IS ONGOING.

UM, SO NEXT SLIDE TALKS ABOUT AFFORDABILITY THAT REALLY IS INVESTING IN THE STATE'S FINANCIAL AID GRANTS.

SO PUT ADDITIONAL DOLLARS THAT STUDENTS CAN BE ABLE TO TAP INTO THAT HAS NEVER BEEN FULLY FUNDED.

AND SO THAT IS TO SEEK TO BRING FUNDING TO IT.

THERE'S A REFERENCE TO DUAL CREDIT, AS I TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME, THAT'S ABOUT BRINGING EQUITY TO DUAL CREDIT AROUND THE STATE BECAUSE IT IS TREATED SO DIFFERENTLY FROM COMMUNITY TO COMMUNITY. WE MAKE THE DECISION HERE TO INVEST IN THOSE STUDENTS AND TO WAIVE DUAL CREDIT TUITION.

OTHER COMMUNITIES DON'T DO THAT, DON'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT, DON'T HAVE THE LUXURY TO DO THAT.

SO THIS IS LOOKING AT SOME SOME STATE POLICY THAT SAYS IF YOU MEET CERTAIN PARAMETERS THAT INSTITUTIONS COULD BE ABLE TO TAP INTO SOME OF THOSE DOLLARS TO SUPPORT DUAL CREDIT WORK.

WOULD THAT APPLY TO US? YEAH, WE WE BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO PERHAPS RECOUP SOME SOME COST.

THAT IS ONE OF THE BIG STICKING POINTS OF CONTENTION THAT IS GOING TO PLAY OUT IN THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION AND AND DURING THE DURING THE COORDINATING BOARD RULEMAKING AUTHORITY BECAUSE SOME WILL SAY IS IT FAIR FOR AN INSTITUTION THAT HAS MADE A DECISION TO NOT TO CHARGE FOR TUITION, THEN TO BE ABLE TO RECOUP SAID TUITION WHEN YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO SET TUITION RATES HERE LOCALLY? BUT IT SPECIFICALLY TALKS ABOUT AT RISK STUDENTS.

AND SO CLEARLY A LOT OF THE STUDENTS THAT WE SUPPORT THROUGH OUR DUAL CREDIT, EARLY COLLEGE, HIGH SCHOOL, P-TECH, WOULD BE CONSIDERED AT RISK UNDER THAT THRESHOLD THAT WE WE BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO RECOUP THAT.

I'VE TALKED SOME ABOUT LAST TIME, ABOUT EARLY LEARNING MODELS, WORK, LEARNING MODELS.

OUR STUDENTS HAVE TO WORK.

WE'VE BEEN DEVELOPING FOR SOME TIME DIFFERENT INTERNSHIPS AND APPRENTICESHIPS.

AS I'VE BRAGGED ABOUT BEFORE, WE HAVE THE LARGEST NUMBER OF APPRENTICESHIPS AND HEALTH CARE INDUSTRY IN THE COUNTRY WITH WHAT WE HAVE DONE WITH WORK ON MODELS LIKE OUR TEACHER RESIDENCY PROGRAM AND OTHERS.

IT IS ALSO A MODEL THIS CAN HELP STATE POLICY RELATED TO COMMUNITY COLLEGES, RECOGNIZE SOME OF THAT AND ALLOW INSTITUTIONS SOME DOLLARS TO BE ABLE TO TAP INTO TRY SOME OF THOSE THINGS.

THERE'S ALSO SOME OF THE SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT WOULD ORIGINALLY PROBABLY BEEN A PART OF THE HOUSE BILL EIGHT, THEY CHOSE TO TAKE THE THROUGH RULEMAKING AS OPPOSED TO THE COMMISSIONER CAN MAKE SOME RULE CHANGES TO ENHANCE SOME OF THOSE ISSUES WITHOUT IT BEING A PART OF THE LAW. SO NOT EVERYTHING THAT WAS THERE, RIGHT? YEAH. TO GIVE MORE FLEXIBILITY TO NOT GET STUCK AND CODIFIED IN STATUTE, TAKE THE POLITICAL PEACE OUT OF IT.

YEAH. AND THEN AGAIN, TO MAKE IT MORE FLEXIBLE AS SITUATIONS CHANGE OVER A PERIOD OF TIME THAT THE COORDINATING BOARD CAN CAN CONSIDER THAT WE'VE TALKED SOME.

HE WAS WORRIED ABOUT THE SHARED SERVICES PORTION OF THIS TO SUPPORT COLLABORATION AMONGST INSTITUTIONS AND PARTNERSHIPS.

WE TALKED ABOUT HOW WE MAY BE ABLE TO ENGAGE IN SOME NEW WAYS OF GENERATING REVENUE THROUGH THAT, AND THIS WOULD BE THE VEHICLE AROUND THAT.

AND THEN AGAIN, THAT THESE DOLLARS ARE FOCUSED ON IN-DEMAND AREAS AND FIELDS BOTH IN CREDIT AND NONCREDIT. AND AGAIN, THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE TYPICALLY THERE'S NOT BEEN A WHOLE LOT OF FOCUS ON THE NONCREDIT SIDE AROUND STATE POLICY.

AND THIS BEGINS TO RECOGNIZE THAT IMPORTANT WORK THAT GOES ON ACROSS THE STATE.

I THINK ALSO THE POINT THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ALL DAY ABOUT INNOVATION.

INNOVATION IS GOING TO ALLOW US TO HAVE MORE CREDENTIALING IN AREAS THAT DON'T EXIST TODAY, AND WE WANT TO HAVE SOME OF THOSE AT DALLAS COLLEGE.

YEAH. AND SO THAT'S ANOTHER IT'S ANOTHER AVENUE FOR THAT.

ABSOLUTELY. SO THAT GETS THROUGH THE HIGHLIGHTS OF WHAT IS IN THE LEGISLATION COMING OUT OF THE FINANCE COMMISSION WORK.

WE ME BACK.

THANK YOU. SO I THINK TRUSTEE BOYD HAS TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE, ABOUT SHARED SERVICES AND MAYBE YOU HAVE REFERENCED THIS TRANSFER, BUT GIVE US

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YEAH. SO SHARED SERVICES, THE EXAMPLE THAT I'VE USED BEFORE IS AS WE WERE CONSIDERING OUR $84 MILLION INVESTMENT IN OUR ERP PROJECT, WE HAD SOME CONVERSATION WITH THE SMALL RURAL COMMUNITY COLLEGES THAT WE SAID, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THIS MAJOR INVESTMENT.

MIGHT THAT BE THE SORT OF THING THAT THAT YOU WOULD WANT TO ALSO PARTICIPATE IN? BECAUSE THEY MIGHT NOT HAVE THE SAME RESOURCES AND ABILITY TO LEVERAGE OUR SIZE, OUR SCOPE, OUR SCALE, AND THEY COULD COME ON OUR COATTAILS TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

AND THIS WOULD HELP THEM ALSO, NOT JUST US DO THOSE SORT OF THINGS OUT OF THE GOODNESS OF OUR HEART, BUT TO MONETIZE THAT TALENT, THOSE SERVICES THAT THAT WE OFFER, THAT THAT THEY WOULD HAVE A POOL OF MONEY THEY COULD TAP INTO TO HELP THEM BE ABLE TO JOIN IN SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AND I REALLY DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT.

DOES THAT MEAN THEY WOULD WALK UP OFF OF OUR SYSTEM? SO THIS IS IT COULD BE THAT.

SO WE TALKED ABOUT OUR EXPERTISE THAT WE HAVE NOW GOING THROUGH AN IMPLEMENTATION THAT MOVING FORWARD NOT NOT AS WE WERE CONSIDERING THE INITIAL 84 MILLION COULD BE THAT THEY NEED SOME EXPERTISE THAT THEY DON'T HAVE THAT THAT WE COULD HELP SUPPORT THEM, WE COULD WIN THEM, WE COULD SELL THEM SOME OF THAT EXPERTISE.

THAT IS A.

UNDER THIS DEFINITION WOULD BE A COLLABORATIVE SORT OF THING THAT, AGAIN, WOULD HELP MONETIZE SOME OF THAT EXPERTISE ON OUR END, BUT ALLOW THEM FOR DOLLARS THAT THEY WOULDN'T HAVE OTHERWISE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

THANK YOU. SO THAT KIND OF GETS THROUGH SOME OF THE BROAD HIGHLIGHTS COMING OUT OF THAT AND WHAT'S IN THE HBA WE HAD AS PART OF OUR LEGISLATIVE AGENDA.

A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS.

ONE OF THOSE WAS AROUND CONTINUED SUPPORT FOR OUR SMALL BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT CENTERS.

AGAIN, WE HOUSE SBDC OVER AT OUR BJP CAMPUS THAT HELPS SUPPORT CENTERS FROM FROM AROUND THE STATE, YOU KNOW, IN THESE COUNTIES.

AND SO IT'S A PASS THROUGH AND IN CONJUNCTION WITH SBA THAT WE ARE ABLE TO LEVERAGE WHAT SBDC DOES AROUND THE REGION TO SUPPORT SMALL BUSINESSES THAT.

SO WHEN WE LOOK OVER THE THE PREVIOUS YEAR, IT HELPED CREATE OVER 2000 JOBS AND HELP RETAIN OVER 17,000 JOBS.

SO THIS AGAIN, I WON'T GET INTO ALL THE DETAILS, BUT THIS IS TREATED AS A SPECIAL ITEM AND OUR FUNDING REQUEST.

BUT THIS IS NOT ABOUT DALLAS COLLEGE.

THIS IS ABOUT SUPPORTING THOSE PASS THROUGH DOLLARS AND LEVERAGE.

THOSE PASS THROUGH DOLLARS IS NOT A TRADITIONAL SORT OF SPECIAL ITEM THAT OTHER COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES HAVE.

YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SOMETIMES SPECIAL ITEMS THAT ARE RELATED TO MUSEUMS THAT MAYBE THEY HAVE ON THEIR CAMPUS, AND SO THEY'RE SEEKING ADDITIONAL STATE DOLLARS TO SUPPORT THAT.

THIS ONE IS ONE THAT HELPS SUPPORT THE SMALL BUSINESS WORK.

SO THAT IS PART OF OUR ONGOING CONVERSATION.

WITH THE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE AND OTHERS TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS APPROPRIATELY FUNDED.

THERE ARE SOME CUTS THAT HAPPENED LAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION THAT WE'RE ASKING TO BE RESTORED TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE THIS WORK.

AND THEN THE OTHER ONE THAT WE HAD WAS LOCAL CONTROL, THE ABILITY FOR THIS BOARD TO MAINTAIN LOCAL CONTROL SORA TOLLEY OVER THINGS LIKE TUITION, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, AROUND SETTING THE TAX RATE.

THERE ARE BILLS, A NUMBER OF BILLS THAT HAVE BEEN FILED THAT WOULD TAKE AWAY SOME OF THAT CONTROL, SOME OF YOUR ABILITY TO DO THAT AND WOULD PUT SOME SOME CAPS IN PLACE.

IT WOULD PUT SOME RANGES IN PLACE.

SO WE'RE PAYING ATTENTION TO THOSE BILLS BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY, AS WE KNOW, AS WE DO BUDGET PLANNING, THANKS TO THE SUPPORT OF OUR LOCAL TAXPAYERS, WE'RE ABLE TO DRAW UPON OUR LOCAL TAX BASE TO SUPPORT MUCH OF THE WORK THAT WE DO IN OUR OPERATIONS.

AND SO WE WANT THIS BOARD TO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THAT LOCAL CONTROL.

SO A LOT OF THOSE BILLS WERE PAYING A LOT OF ATTENTION TO THIS.

JUST QUICKLY WAS DURING COMMUNITY COLLEGE DAY.

AND I APPRECIATE THE SOME OF OUR TRUSTEES THAT WERE ABLE TO ATTEND AND GO DOWN THERE TO ADVOCATE ON BEHALF OF OUR INSTITUTIONS.

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AGAIN, OUR ROLE IN THE WORKFORCE IMPERATIVE BACK TO THAT FIRST SLIDE THAT I SHOWED OUR ROLE IN CONTINUING TO HELP SUPPORT PEOPLE TO GET THE JOB SKILLS THEY NEED AND ULTIMATELY GET INTO JOBS AND GET TO WORK.

SO IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME IN ANYONE'S RECENT HISTORY THAT COMMUNITY COLLEGES WERE MENTIONED IN THAT FASHION IN THE STATE OF THE STATE ADDRESS.

THIS JUST QUICKLY KIND OF TELLS YOU KIND OF WHO THE PLAYERS ARE WITHIN THE TWO PRIMARY EDUCATION COMMITTEES ON THE SENATE, ON THE HOUSE SIDE OF THOSE THAT THAT WE'RE ENGAGING WITH AS THE BILLS MOVE FORWARD.

SO THE CHAIR OF SENATE EDUCATION, SENATOR CREIGHTON, AND THE CHAIR OF HOUSE HIGHER ED HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THE THE THE THE WORK OF THE COMMISSION.

COMMISSIONER VAN REPRESENTATIVE VANDIVER ON THE HOUSE SIDE WAS ON THE THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE FINANCE COMMISSION.

HE'S THE ONE THAT'S CARRYING THE BILL ON THE HOUSE SIDE.

SENATOR CRAIG IS CARRYING IT ON THE EDUCATION SIDE.

SO AGAIN, YOU HAVE TWO BIG EDUCATION LEADERS THAT ARE HELPING TO CARRY THE BILL AND MOVE THE BILL.

THIS IS JUST A FLIP OVER TO THE THE FEDERAL SIDE AGAIN, IN THE STATE OF THE UNION ADDRESS, THE PRESIDENT MENTIONED COMMUNITY COLLEGES AND AGAIN, THE IMPORTANCE OF COMMUNITY COLLEGES.

ALSO, I SHARE THAT PICTURE OF THE FOUR STUDENTS THAT YOU'LL SEE HERE LATER TODAY THAT WENT TO THE NATIONAL LEGISLATIVE SUMMIT THAT WERE PARTICIPATING IN THIS WORK.

NOW, I'LL JUST GO THROUGH THIS FAIRLY QUICKLY BECAUSE THIS GETS INTO THE FUNDING SIDE OF THINGS.

THAT'S FOR HOUSE BILL EIGHT.

SO WITHIN THE BASE BUDGET BILL THAT COMES OUT, THERE ARE CONTINGENCY RIDERS THAT SET ASIDE THE WHAT IS ABOUT $650 MILLION, WHICH IS THE COMPANION TO WHAT HB EIGHT WILL CODIFY AND PUT INTO LAW.

SO YOU KIND OF HAVE TWO STREAMS. YOU'VE GOT THE APPROPRIATION SIDE AND THEN YOU GOT THE THE POLICY SIDE THAT MOVES IT THROUGH.

SO WHEN WHEN THE BASE BUDGET BILL CAME OUT AND THAT 650 MILLION WAS THERE AS A CONTINGENCY, THAT MEANT WE WERE ALREADY AHEAD OF THE CURVE, WE DIDN'T HAVE TO FIGHT TO KIND OF GO BACK AND TRY TO ADD MONEY IN THERE.

AND THIS IS JUST KIND OF A BREAKDOWN OF WHAT SOME OF THOSE DOLLARS LOOK LIKE WITHIN THE THE RIDER SPEAKS TO THE DETAILS OF HOW THESE DOLLARS WILL BE CAN BE USED.

AND AGAIN, THERE'S SOME MUCH OF THIS AGAIN, TRACKS THE FINANCE COMMISSION WORK.

BUT THERE ARE A FEW LITTLE TWEAKS AND CHANGES THAT WILL COME THROUGH BUDGET AMENDMENTS THAT THAT WE'RE WORKING ON.

NOW, WHEN I GET TO THIS THIS THIS KIND OF GETS TO IF IF WE STUCK WITH THE CURRENT SYSTEM, IF THE NEW FORMULA WAS NOT PUT IN PLACE.

IT'S THIS WOULD BE THE NORM OF WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT IN TERMS OF LARGELY LOWER DRIVEN, A LITTLE BIT OF STUDENT SUCCESS POINTS. AND SO IT'S NOT MUCH ADDITIONAL INVESTMENT IN COMMUNITY COLLEGES IF YOU DIDN'T INCLUDE THAT FINANCE COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION.

IF WE WERE OPERATING UNDER THE OLD FORMULA, IF THIS THING DOES NOT PASS, WE'LL BE LOOKING AT A DECREASE IN OUR FUNDING BECAUSE OF OUR ENROLLMENT DECLINE. WE WOULD BE DOWN A COUPLE MILLION DOLLARS FROM THAT.

AND SO THIS IS WHERE IT BECOMES IMPORTANT THAT TWO THINGS ABOUT THE NEW FORMULA ONE IS IT IS ASKING INSTITUTIONS TO COMPETE AGAINST THEMSELVES IN TERMS OF OUTCOMES.

HOW DID WE DO HOW OUR OUTCOMES? ARE THEY BETTER OR WORSE THAN THE LAST TIME THEY'RE BETTER? WE GET ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR THAT.

THIS IS NOT INSTITUTIONS COMPETING AGAINST OTHER INSTITUTIONS, WHICH IS WHAT THE ENROLLMENT PIECE IS NOW.

IT'S A DEFINED PIE THAT INSTITUTIONS ARE COMPETING WITH FROM AN ENROLLMENT PERSPECTIVE AND COMPETING AGAINST EACH OTHER.

SO THAT WILL BRING SOME STABILITY TO THE FORMULA.

AND THE OTHER PART IS, IS THAT IT WILL BE REAL TIME RECOGNITION OF CHANGES.

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SO IF WE HAD ENROLLMENT INCREASES, WE HAVE TO WAIT TWO YEARS FOR THAT.

IF WE HAVE ENROLLMENT DECLINES, IT DOESN'T HIT US FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS.

THIS WILL HAVE MORE REAL TIME ADJUSTMENT OF DID YOU INCREASE YOUR OUTCOMES OR NOT? IF YOU DID, THEN HERE'S ADDITIONAL DOLLARS TO DOUBLE DOWN AND CONTINUE THAT GOOD WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING.

SO AGAIN, THAT'S THAT'S IF WE WERE USING THE CURRENT FORMULA, I CAN'T TELL YOU YET.

STILL WHAT THE IMPACT OF THE NEW FORMULA WOULD BE ON US IN TERMS OF JUST AN OVERALL FINANCIAL BOTTOM LINE, BECAUSE THE COORDINATING BOARD HAS BEEN WORKING WITH US TO BETTER UNDERSTAND THE DATA AND LARGELY THE NONCREDIT DATA.

AS I SAID, PEOPLE DIDN'T TRACK THAT VERY WELL.

INSTITUTIONS DIDN'T TRACK THAT VERY WELL.

THE COORDINATING BOARD DID TRACK THAT VERY WELL.

SO THERE'S A A TEAM THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH WITH THE COORDINATING BOARD TO TO HELP INFORM THAT SIDE OF THE DATA.

THEY'RE WORKING ON THOSE THOSE BUDGET RUNS TO, TO SEE HOW IT MAY IMPACT INDIVIDUAL INSTITUTIONS.

SO WE HOPE TO GET THOSE FAIRLY QUICKLY.

AND THEN I'LL BE ABLE TO TELL YOU, OKAY, WITH THIS NEW FORMULA IN PLACE, HERE'S HOW WE ANTICIPATE IT WOULD IMPACT US GIVEN OUR CURRENT OUTCOMES. BUT AGAIN, WE DON'T HAVE ALL THAT RIGHT NOW.

THIS SLIDE JUST ALSO MENTIONS OBVIOUSLY, THERE ARE A MULTITUDE OF BILLS THAT WE'RE PAYING ATTENTION TO.

I REFERENCED SOME OF THE TAX BILLS.

THIS SAYS THAT THERE WERE 47 THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY TRACKING.

I WAS GOING TO SAY, DEBBIE, HOW MANY BILLS WERE FILED ON THE LAST DAY? YESTERDAY THERE WERE OVER 400 BILLS FILED AND THE FILING DEADLINE IS FRIDAY.

SO IT'S CRAZY ALREADY TODAY.

SO THERE WERE HUNDREDS OF MORE BILLS THAT HAVE BEEN FILED.

AND HOW MANY OF THEM FILED THUS FAR? 6000. 6000.

658. YEAH.

SO THAT'S HOW MANY BILLS THAT HAVE BEEN FILED? HUNDREDS MORE TO COME THIS WEEK.

AND THE LEGISLATURE, YOU KNOW, IT'S MARCH NOW, SO THEY HAVE BEGUN THEIR WORK IN EARNEST.

THEIR COMMITTEES ARE ORGANIZED.

AND SO THE COMMITTEES HAVE WILL GET GET MORE INTENSE ABOUT HEARING THESE BILLS.

HOUSE BILL EIGHT IS GOING TO BE HEARD ON MARCH 20TH.

YEAH. AND SO WE'RE GOING TO GET OUR FIRST HEARING ON OUR BILL.

AND SO THAT'S THE FIRST OPPORTUNITY THAT, YOU KNOW, FOLKS CAN GET TO ENGAGE, BEGIN TO THINK ABOUT ANY AMENDMENTS THAT COME OUT OF THAT.

AND SO THERE'S GOOD AND BAD AMENDMENTS THAT COME OUT OF THAT, AND WE'LL TRACK AND TRACK ALL OF THOSE THINGS.

THERE ARE CERTAINLY BILLS THAT WOULD ERODE THE NORIEGA LEGISLATION, THE 2001 LEGISLATION AROUND TUITION FOR UNDOCUMENTED STUDENTS.

SO WE'RE PAYING ATTENTION TO THOSE BILLS.

CERTAINLY YOU'VE READ A LOT AND SEEN A LOT AROUND SOME OF THE BILLS RELATED TO DEI INITIATIVES.

AND SO WE'RE PAYING ATTENTION TO THOSE BILLS, AS ARE MULTITUDE OF OF OTHER INSTITUTIONS.

THERE'S A LOT OF BILLS TO PAY ATTENTION TO.

BUT THE OTHER THING I WANT TO SAY JUST QUICKLY ABOUT THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE FINANCE STUFF NOW, HOUSE BILL EIGHT, SO I WAS IN AUSTIN.

THE WEEK BEFORE LAST, WHERE THE DALLAS REGIONAL CHAMBER HAD A GROUP OF EXECUTIVES AND BUSINESS LEADERS THAT WENT DOWN AS CHAMBERS OFTEN HAVE THEIR AUSTIN CLIENTS.

AND SO THE DALLAS REGIONAL CHAMBER HAD THEIRS.

AND SO YOU HAD THE REGIONAL LEADS FOR BANK OF AMERICA, FOR GRANT THORNTON, FOR JP MORGAN CHASE, THE PHILANTHROPIC ARM FOR TEXAS, JP MORGAN CHASE, AND MANY OTHERS, THAT WHEN THE GROUPS WENT IN TO MEET WITH LEGISLATORS, THE NUMBER ONE ISSUE WAS SUPPORT FOR COMMUNITY COLLEGES AND SUPPORT FOR HOUSE BILL EIGHT.

AND THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ADVOCATED AND TALKED ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF IT.

BUT IT'S AS IMPORTANT TO THEIR BUSINESS.

IT'S IMPORTANT TO THEIR WORKFORCE.

AND SO I SAY ALL OF THAT, THAT I'VE BEEN AROUND THE LEGISLATIVE SIDE FOR QUITE A WHILE NOW.

IT'S THE MOST SUPPORT THAT I HAVE SEEN, THE MOST BROAD BASED SUPPORT FOR THE WORK THAT WE DO.

SO IN THOSE MEETINGS, IN THOSE SESSIONS, THEY SPOKE AND I COULD JUST BE THE EYE CANDY THERE AND ADD IN A LITTLE BIT OF COLOR TO THE WORK THAT WE DO. BUT THAT SUPPORTS THEM.

THAT SPEAKS TO THE BROAD BASED SUPPORT WE HAVE AND THE NUMBER OF LEGISLATORS WHO HAVE INFORMALLY SIGNED ON TO SUPPORT

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WE'RE A REALLY GOOD PLACE TO GET AN INFUSION OF NEW DOLLARS TO SUPPORT THE WORK THAT WE DO AND MOVE TO THIS FORMULA FOCUSED ON OUTCOMES.

AND SO MUCH OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT TODAY RELATED TO OUR DOWNTOWN INITIATIVE AND OTHER THINGS.

THIS IS A ONCE IN A LIFETIME CHANGE AT THE STATE POLICY LEVEL ABOUT HOW TO SUPPORT COMMUNITY COLLEGES AND THE WORK THAT WE DO.

AND SO A LOT CAN HAPPEN BETWEEN NOW AND THE END OF THE SESSION.

BUT BUT 1 MILLION PLUS.

BUT THAT'S QUITE DIFFERENT FROM THE PLACE WE'RE USUALLY IN.

I'VE BEEN MANY TIMES BEATING ON DOORS, TRYING TO GET IN AND GET PEOPLE TO PAY ATTENTION.

SO SO IT'S CERTAINLY NICE THAT FOLKS ARE PAYING ATTENTION THE WAY THEY ARE RIGHT NOW.

SO AGAIN, WE GOT A LONG WAY TO GO BETWEEN NOW AND MAY 29TH.

BUT WITH THAT, DEBBIE, ANYTHING THAT I MISSED THAT WE NEED TO HIT? YEAH, YOU DID A GREAT JOB.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? JASMINE WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE 7000 VOTES.

DALLAS AND I HAVE A I'VE OF THE OLD AGE OF TRACKING MY OWN STUFF SO I'D MAKE MY OWN SPREADSHEETS AND EVERYTHING. SO IF YOU EVER NEED ANYTHING, JUST GIVE ME A HOLLER AND I CAN GET IT TO YOU.

DON'T WORRY ABOUT IS MY TOPIC SO WE CAN KIND OF TRACK THOSE BILLS AND KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.

AGAIN, KEEP IN MIND THAT WITH 7000 PLUS BILLS, SOME OF THOSE WILL NEVER MOVE YOUR FILE, NEVER MOVE, SOME OF THEM WILL MAKE IT THROUGH THE PROCESS AT DIFFERENT STAGES.

BUT I JUST WANT TO TAKE A FEW MINUTES AND KIND OF GIVE YOU A LAY OF THE LAND OF WHERE WE ARE ON THE LEGISLATIVE SIDE, BUT PRIMARILY JUST TO SAY I'VE NEVER SEEN SUCH BROAD BASED SUPPORT.

SO, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER THING THAT COULD ULTIMATELY OR WOULD AFFECT US TOO WILL BE DEPENDING ON HOW IT ENDS UP OR IS ALLOWING THE LATITUDE OF PARENTS TO CHOOSE THEIR SCHOOLS FOR THEIR KIDS SCHOOL CHOICE TYPE SITUATION.

THE NUMBER WE TALKED ABOUT TODAY, YOU KNOW, YOU START TALKING ABOUT THE SHIFTING AROUND.

AND, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE ALWAYS BEEN IN FAVOR OF, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS A LOT, IS GETTING OUR CHARTER SCHOOLS INVOLVED IN OUR PROMISE PROGRAM BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO BE MORE AND MORE WITH CHOICE PEOPLE MOVING INTO THESE CHARTER SCHOOLS, WHICH ONLY MAKES SENSE THAT WE SHOULD BE OFFERING THE SAME OPPORTUNITY AS AS WELL AS WE CAN.

SO YEAH, SCHOOL CHOICE AND SCHOOL VOUCHERS WOULD BE A BIG TOPIC OF CONVERSATION GOING ON DURING THIS SESSION.

YES, SIR. ANYTHING GOING ON WITH HANDGUNS ON COLLEGE CAMPUSES OR COMMENTS ON THE GOVERNOR'S EXECUTIVE ORDER ON DIE ON THE OTHER? CONTROVERSIAL TOPICS.

YEAH. SO AS I REFERENCED AROUND THE WORLD, ISI CERTAINLY GOVERNOR SILVA TO COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES THAT NOW SOME OF THOSE SOME OF THAT LANGUAGE SO THOSE BILLS HAVE BEEN FILED AND THERE ARE PRIORITY TO THE GOVERNOR AND OTHERS. AND SO YEAH, WE'RE PAYING ATTENTION TO TO TO THOSE.

AND AGAIN, THERE'S THERE'S A LOT OF ARGUMENTS ON ON BOTH SIDES OF THOSE TOPICS.

BUT, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVEN'T MOVED THUS FAR BUT WE'RE STILL GOING TO EARLY IN THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS.

OKAY. THANK YOU, SIR.

APPRECIATE IT. OKAY.

WE HAVE FROM OUR COMMITTEE TODAY, WE HAVE ONE ITEM THAT WILL BE ON THE 4:00 HOUR MEETING FOR APPROVAL, THE PHASE TWO OF. THE PAIGE SUTHERLAND CONTRACT.

THERE ARE ALSO COMMITTEE NOTES.

ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS, CORRECTIONS, ADDITIONS, ANY ISSUES WITH THE NOTES? WE HAVE NO REASON FOR AN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

CORRECT? OKAY.

WITH THAT, WE WILL ADJOURN THE FINANCE COMMITTEE MEETING AT.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.