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[1. Certification of Notice Posted for the Meeting]

[4. Executive Session (if required)]

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CHANGE OF PLAN, WE WILL MOVE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FIRST.

WE WILL BE BACK SHORTLY.

[A. Gateway Concept Planning: DCCCD Eastfield Campus Presenters: John Robertson, Martha O’Mara (Colliers), Paris Rutherford (Catalyst)]

>> WE WILL MOVE ONTO THE PRESENTATION.

>> I WILL INTRODUCE PARIS RUTHERFORD WITH CATALYST.

YOU HAVE MET MARTHA COLLIER.

IT MAY TAKE 20 MINUTES TO LOAD BECAUSE IT'S A HUGE FILE.

YOU'VE GOT THE CONTROLLER TO DO WHAT YOU WANT.

I'LL CALL ON YOU IF NEED BE.

WE WILL TRY TO SPEED SOME OF THIS UP.

I'VE ASKED PARIS AND MARTY TO TRY TO GET THROUGH THIS IN 30 MINUTES OR SO.

THAT WILL LEAVE SOME TIME FOR QUESTION BUT WE WILL DEFINITELY TRY TO WRAP THIS UP IN 45 MINUTES.

>> WOULD IT BE HELPFUL TO STAND UP THERE TO TALK SO EVERYBODY CAN SEE IT?

>> CHANCELLOR J. MAY: THAT'S YOUR CALL.

>> OKAY, GREAT.

EXCELLENT.

WE CAME AND SPOKE WITH YOU --

>> LET'S HAVE YOU GET THE MICROPHONE.

YOU ARE ON TV.

>> OH, I'M ON TV?

>> C. COMPTON: THIS IN THE AGENDA THAT IS 2-A.

THAT'S NOT GOOD?

>> THIS IS THE LATEST.

>> THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO IS IT IS MADE DIRECTLY FROM THE POWERPOINT.

WHERE THE ONE BEFORE WAS MADE FROM THE PDF.

THAT'S THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO.

>> SO AS YOU RECALL, WE WERE HERE ANUMBER OF MONTHS AGO TALKING ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT OF AN OVERALL MASTER REAL ESTATE PLAN FOR THE SYSTEM, FOR THE DISTRICT.

BUILDING UP FROM INDIVIDUAL MASTER PLANS THE CAMPUSES HAD DONE.

ALONG WITH OTHER SETS OF RECOMMENDATIONS, WE CAME UP WITH A CONCEPT OF HOW TO BETTER CONNECT THE CAMPUS TO THE COMMUNITY PHYSICALLY.

SO MULTI-PURPOSES HERE.

HOW DO WE MONETIZE OR USE THE VALUE OF THE LAND SURROUNDING THESE CAMPUSES, YOU KNOW, WHEN A LOT OF THESE WERE BUILT IN THE LATE 60'S, EARLY 70'S, THEY WERE BUILT IN AREAS THAT WEREN'T VERY WELL DEVELOPED.

THEY WERE DESIGNED INED THE ERA TO HAVE THE CONSTRUCTION TYPE, POURED IN PLACE CONCRETE, SURROUNDED BY PARKING.

HOW CAN WE SORT OF BRING THAT STYLE INTO SOMETHING THAT IS MORE OPEN TO THE COMMUNITY? AND HOW DO WE INTEGRATE THE CAMPUSES BETTER WITH THE COMMUNITY? AND DO THAT ALIGNED WITH THE LONG-TERM ACADEMIC PLANS AND PHYSICAL PLANS OF THE CAMPUSES.

SO THE IDEA OF THE GATEWAY CONCEPT WAS HOW CAN WE INTEGRATE PLANNING AROUND MORE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT COMPLEMENTS THE MISSION OF THE COLLEGE.

BRINGING IN INCOME SO IT'S FINANCIALLY VIABLE, FEASIBLE TO DO BUT THE LONG-TERM GOAL IS TO ENHANCE THE EDUCATIONAL EXPERIENCE AND SUPPORT THE KIND

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OF CAPITAL INVESTMENT NEEDED TO MODERNIZE THESE CAMPUSES BOTH IN TERMS OF THE BASIC RENOVATIONS BUT ALSO BINGING THEM INTO WHAT IS THE MODERN COMMUNITY COLLEGE TODAY.

WHAT DOES IT MEAN? HOW DO YOU REALLY BRING THE COMMUNITY BACK MORE INTO PHYSICALLY CONNECTED WITH THE COLLEGE.

SO THIS CONCEPT OF THE GATEWAY, WE THEN HAD SOME VERY HIGH-LEVEL SCHEMATIC IDEAS FOR EACH OF THE SIX SUBURBAN CAMPUSES.

EL CENTRO ARE DIFFERENT, BUT FOR THE SIX SUBURBAN RING CAMPUSES.

A LOT OF THESE ARE SIMILAR.

EACH CAMPUS EXISTS, HAS DIFFERENCES IN TERMS OF THE AMOUNT OF LAND IN TERMS OF THE LOCAL SOCIOECONOMICKS.

BUT THE PRINCIPLES, I THINK ALL BROADLY APPLY TO SIX OF THE CAMPUSES.

SO W WANTED TO DO A CONCEPTUAL TESTING.

SO WE WENT, WORKED WITH EAST FIELD COLLEGE.

DID I JUST TURN IT OFF? THERE WE ARE.

WHAT WE WILL TALK ABOUT TODAY.

WE TOOK THE EAST FIELD CAMPUS FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS.

ONE, THEY HAD ALREADY INTEGRATED IDEAS AROUND COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IN THE CAMPUS MASTER PLAN.

IT ISN'T THE MOST SLAM DUNK OF THE CAMPUSES IN TERMS OF COMMERCIAL VIABILITY.

IT'S ALSO NOT THE MOST DIFFICULT CAMPUS IN TERMS OF THE VIABILITY OF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.

WHEN WE SORT OF RANKED THE CAMPUSES AND SORT OF EASE OF BRINGING THESE, THESE WERE SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE BUT THEY HAD SHOWN OPENNESS TO THE IDEA SO IT WAS A GOOD TEST CASE.

CONCEPT USING EAST FIELD COLLEGE A THE MODEL.

FOR WHAT CAN BE DONE TO OUR PRESENT CAMPUS STRUCTURE TO BRING THEM INTO MEETING ALL OF THE BROADER INSTITUTIONAL GOALS OF THE COLLEGES, BUT ALSO MORE COMMUNITY INTERACTION AND MRE COMMERCIAL VIABILITY, IN A WAY, ALSO TO HELP WITH THE FUTURE CAPITAL, INVESTMENTS THAT NEED TO BE MADE.

SO, THIS CONCEPT, AS WE TALKED ABOUT, WE LOOKED AT HOUSING, DIFFERENT ASSET CLASSES AS YOU RECALL FROM OUR EARLIER PRESENTATION, ALL THE VARIOUS REAL ESTATE USES THAT COULD BE ON THESE CAMPUSES.

YOU WILL SEE A LOT OF THAT DEMONSTRATED IN THIS PROJECT.

PARIS IS GOING TO TAKE US THROUGH ALL THE WONDERFUL WORK THAT CATALYST HAS DONE.

AND WE WILL TALK, KIND OF TAG-TEAM EACH OTHER ON PROT -- THE PROGRAM AND ACTUAL DESIGN CONCEPTS.

>> HOW ARE YOU? THANKS FOR HAVING US.

THIS IS AN EXCITING PROCESS, AND I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH YOU.

AS MARTY MENTIONED, IN LOOKING AT THE BASIC GOAL OF TAKING THE GATEWAY CONCEPT AND DIVERSE PROGRAM THAT GOES WITH THAT AND PUTTING IT OUT IN A WAY THAT SUPPORTS THE CAMPUS AND THE COMMUNITY AND KIND OF REINFORCES OR EVEN FURTHERS THE CAMPUS'S ROLE AS CENTER OF COMMUNITY AND CENTER OF INTERACTIONS, ACADEMIC AND NON ACADEMIC, WE LOOKED AT A RANGE OF DIFFERENT PLACES.

WE LOOKED TO THE NORTH.

WE LOOKED TO THE SOUTHEAST NEAR MOTLEY, FURTHER TO THE SOUTH AND KIND OF INVESTIGATED A RANGE OF DIFFERENT LOCATIONS.

WE KEPT GOING BACK TO THE OVERALL DYNAMICS OF THE SITE.

I KNOW IN THE ORIGINAL MASTER PLAN.

THERE WAS A NEW ROAD PLANNED THAT YOU MAY RECALL OFF THE SERVICE ROAD.

BUT THE REALITY IS THE REGIONAL ACCESS POINT, REGIONAL INTEREST IN THE SITE IS STILL MOTLEY, IT'S THE INTERCHANGE OFF 30.

THAT'S HOW PEOPLE GET THERE, REALISTICALLY.

WE REALIZED A FOCUS OFF MOTLEY WAS IMPORTANT.

AS YOU DRIVE OFF MOTLEY YOU RECALL THERE'S A VAST AREA YOU ARE LOOKING ACROSS.

AND THE CAMPUS IS KIND OF SET IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT VAST AREA.

IT'S PURPOSEFUL NOW IN CREATING A SINGULAR PLACE IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS BIG ZONE.

SO IT'S NT REACHING OUT WHATSOEVER, THAT'S BY DESIGN IN THE DAY BUT CERTAINLY ISN'T THE GATEWAY CONCEPT.

SO WE REALIZE THE FRONTAGE ALONG MOTLEY IS VERY IMPORTANT.

IN TALKING TO THE FOLKS ON CAMPUS.

WE REALIZE THERE ARE INTERESTING.

WE WILL SEE WHERE WE ARE HEADED WITH THAT, OF COURSE ALL THE BALL FIELDS, PROPOSE ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITY AS A COMMUNITY FUNCTION.

SO FROM THE PROGRAMMING STANDPOINT --

>> MARTHA: RIGHT, WE WORKED WITH THE LONG-RANGE PLAN DEVELOPED BY EASTFIELD COLLEGE, WHERE THEY SAW THE NEED IN TERMS OF STUDENT SERVICES, REPLACING SOME BUILDINGS THAT

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ARE PASSED THEIR USEFUL LIFE.

THIS REFLECTS THEIR PROGRAM.

THIS ISN'T A PROMISE TO WRITE A CHECK TO BUILD ALL THIS FOR THEM BUT WE WANTED TO SHOW HOW WE CAN INTEGRATE THE FUTURE ACADEMIC CAMPUS DEVELOPMENT WITH THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AND FIND THOSE SYNERGIES BETWEEN THE TWO AND WORK WITH THE EISTING SITE CONDITIONS ON THE COLLEGE CAMPUS WHICH HAVE BOTH CHALLENGES AND OPPORTUNITIES, AS PARIS WILL EXPLAIN.

>> THERE'S A FAIR AMOUNT OF PROGRAM IN THERE THAT RELATES BACK TO THEIR MASTER PLAN.

ONE THING THAT WAS STRIKING ABOUT THAT CAMPUS IN PARTICULAR IS WHEN IT WAS DESIGNED, AS YOU RECALL, THEY MOUNDED THE EARTH SO THE CAMPUS IS KIND OF ELEVATED.

SO THAT IS STRIKING BUT IT MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT DISCONNECTED FROM THE LAND AROUND IT.

SO BREAKING THAT VERTICALITY DOWN, SO YOU CAN, AS A PEDESTRIAN OR OTHERS YOU COULD GET UP TO THE TOP AREAS.

WHAT WE LOOKED AT THEN IS RIGHT IN THE CORE, THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATION, SET TO BE DEMOLISHED AND CONSTRUCTED TO ACCOMMODATE CURRENT USES, WE REALIZE THERE WAS A GATHERING POINT THAT COULD BE CREATED THROUGH THIS KIND OF MIXED USE AND MIXED EXPERIENCE SET OF GRAND STAIRS.

OBVIOUSLY WOULD HAVE A.D.A.

ACCESS, ALL THE THINGS THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED.

THAT BECOMES THE NEXUS CONNECTING POINT BETWEEN THE EXISTING CAMPUS AND THE GATEWAY, WHICH YOU SEE HERE.

SO NOW WE ARE LOOKING NORTH.

YOU SEE THE ICONIC BUILDING THAT EXISTS.

EVERYONE CAN SEE FROM THE HIGHWAY AND THIS IS THE MIDDLE OF THE GATEWAY LOOKING NORTH WARDS AT THAT SET OF GRAND STAIRS, THE NEW ADMINISTRATION BUILDING, THE GATEWAY BUILDING AROUND HAVE A MIX OF USES WITHIN THEM.

THIS REACHES BACK TOWARDS MOTLEY.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT THAT MEANS FOR THE PLAN, THE BUILDINGS SHOWN IN RED, THOSE ARE COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS.

THAT WOULD BE PRIVATE SECTOR COMING IN AND WORKING WITH YOU ALL IN THAT AREA OF LAND.

CREATES A NEW GATEWAY OFF MOTLEY.

IT FORMS A NEW PARK, COMMUNITY PARK THAT INCORPORATES THE MOTLEY CEMETERY.

SOME OF THE BALL FIELDS OFF MOTLEY AND HELPS GIVE A BETTER DEFINITION FROM AN ENTRY STANDPOINT AS YOU ARE DRIVING IN FROM THE INTERCHANGE AND TIES BACK INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AROUND IT.

ON THE NORTH SIDE IN YELLOW, YOU WILL SEE THOSE ARE HOUSING BLOCKS, ALSO SET UP ON A STREET GRID, PROVIDES A NEW ENTRANCE INTO THE CAMPUS FROM THE NORTH SIDE AS WELL.

THE BALL FIELDS ARE REORDERED AND AT WHICH POINT THERE IS THE OPPORTUNITY IN THE BLUE BUILDING TO HAVE AN INDOOR SPORTS FACILITY OR EVEN NEW PERFORMING ARTS CENTER THAT WOULD BE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY IN SOME FASHION.

THEN THERE WOULD BE HARVESTER FIELD, THE BASEBALL CAMPUS WOULD BE RECONSTRUCTED AS PART OF THE OUTDOOR BALL FIELDS.

WHICH BY THE WAY, THE PARKING FIELDS AND SOME OF THE BALL FIELDS HOLD POTENTIAL FOR FUTURE EXPANSION FROM A DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT AS WELL.

YOU KNOW, TE ULTIMATE GOAL IN HERE FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE IS TO FORMALIZE AND MAKE MORE DYNAMIC AS BOTH A STUDENT AND FACULTY MEMBER THAT WHEN YOU COME HERE YOU FEEL PROUD OF YOUR CAMPUS AND YOU FEEL GEAT ABOUT GOING HERE, THERE ARE OTHER THINGS TO DO, YOU CAN BE EDUCATED, SIT OVER THE RESTAURANT OVER THE WETLANDS WHICH IS A BEAUTIFUL EXPERIENCE AND YOU DON'T HAVE TOO MUCH OF THAT.

WE FEEL IN ORGANIZING IT IN THIS WAY IT BECOMES A PLACE THAT THE OVERALL COMMUNITY WANTS TO GO AND HANG OUT IN.

IT'S OBVIOUSLY A PLACE WHERE STUDENTS AND FACULTY CAN CONVENE AND COME TOGETHER AND HAVE THOSE EXPERIENCES.

IT'S SET UP ON SOME PRINCIPLES.

THERE IS A NEW CENTRAL CAMPUS PLAZA AT THE TOP OF THE STEPS I MENTIONED BEFORE.

BY NATURE OF GETTING RID OF SOME OF THE BUILDINGS IT WILL OPEN UP THE CAMPUS.

IT NEEDS TO BE DEFINED IN THE CORE.

IT'S CELEBRATING THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE HIGH AND LOWELLVATION.

-- LOW ELEVATION.

AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, YOU DON'T HAVE THIS UP HERE AND THIS DOWN HERE AND THEY ARE DISCONNECTED.

THIS BECOMES KIND OF THE CONNECTING POINT.

THE GATEWAY THAT HAS PEDESTRIANS WALKING THROUGH IT, LEADS TO THE COMMERCIAL STRUCTURES CLOSER TO THE REGIONAL INTERCHANGE OF MOTLEY AND 30, WHICH YOU SEE, TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE NATURAL BENEFITS THE SITE OFFERS RIGHT NOW.

ON THE NORTH SIDE, AS I MENTIONED, THERE'S A NEW BOULEVARD ENTRY THAT TAKES YOU FROM OTS DOWN INTO THE CAMPUS.

CURRENTLY IT'S A BIT CIRCUITOUS TO CIRCULATE AROUND THE CAMPUS, THIS CLARIFIES IT.

YOU COULD SEE SOME IMAGES WHAT THAT WOULD BE LIKE.

AND UP THERE UTILIZING VARIOUS

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FORMS OF HOUSING, SENIOR HOUSING, EVEN WORKFORCE HOUSING, STUDENT HOUSING ON THAT NORTH SIDE, ALL CAN WORK WELL.

YES, SIR?

>> THE HOUSING IS BUILT ON OUR PROPERTY OR ADJACENT PROPERTY?

>> PARIS: ON YOUR PROPERTY.

>> WE PROBABLY NEED A GLOBAL DISCUSSION HOW WE DO THAT AND WHERE.

>> I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT.

THERE'S NOT AN ASK IN THIS.

ALL THIS WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE BOARD FOR DISCUSSION.

RIGHT NOW IT GIVES A FRAMEWORK.

IF SOMEONE SAID WE WANT TO DO THIS IN PARTNERSHIP OR WHATEVER, WE AT LEAST HAVE THE RUDEMENTS OF A PLAN, WHAT WE ARE DOING WITH THE ACREAGE AND WE AREN'T JUST HODGE-PODGING IT -- I DO WANT TO SAY, WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT COMMERCIAL, WITH MY PROFIT-MODED FRIENDS, BECAUSE I AM TOO, TE COMMERCIAL HAS REALLY EPANDED TO MEAN A LOT OF THE STUDENT SERVICE TYPE THINGS.

WHETHER IT BE BOOKSTORES OR FOOD PANTRIES OR LEGAL ADVICE, ACCOUNTING ADVICE.

ALL OF THAT COULD BE WORKED INTO WHAT WE CALL THE COMMERCIAL SPACE THAT HELPS ATTRACT PEOPLE INTO THIS AREA.

SOME OF IT WOULD BE QUITE FRANKLY PURE RETAIL.

ESPECIALLY LIKE FOOD.

ONE OF THE PROBLEMS IS WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING BUT SUBWAYS.

BECAUSE WE DON'T GET ENOUGH FOOT TRAFFIC.

SO THERE'S THAT MIXTURE OF WHAT WE CAN DO TO BRING PEOPLE INTO OUR CAMPUS, WITH OTHER TYPES OF AMENITIES BUT ALSO MAKE SURE THOSE AMENITIES SERVE A STUDENT FOCUS REASON FOR WHAT WE ARE DOING THEM FOR.

IT'S NOT PURE COMMERCIALIZATION.

>> MARTHA: THE COMMERCIAL USES WE HAVE SUGGESTED HERE AND WE WILL GET INTO THE PROGRAM DETAILS FURTHER DOWN, WE HAVE ALL TESTED THOSE AT A HIGH LEVEL PRO FORMA THAT THEY ARE REALISTIC FOR THE MARKETPLACE.

PARTICULARLY IN THE CASE OF EASTFIELD, YOU ARE IN A MATURE MARKET.

SO YOU KNOW WAT IS SURROUNDING YOU, YOU KNOW WHAT THE DEMAND IS, YOU KNOW WHAT THE VARIOUS CHANGES THAT ARE MOVING EASTWARD FROM DALLAS.

SO WHAT WE HAVE PUT IN HERE, OH LET'S FIGURE OUT WHAT PRETTY BUILDINGS GO WHERE.

EVERYTHING WE HAVE DONE WE HAVE REALLY TESTED IN THE MARKETPLACE THE FINANCIAL ASPECTS OF LET'S SAY RENTAL HOUSING, THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT WE WILL TALK ABOUT IN A FEW MINUTES.

SO YOU HAVE THESE INCREDIBLE ASSETS.

WHEN YOU BRING MORE PEOPLE TO CAMPUS, IT WOULD CREATE A LOT OF SYNERGIES FOR EVERYTHING THAT IS THERE TO SERVE THE STUDENTS MORE BUT ALSO TO MAKE IT A MORE WELCOMING PLACE TO THE COMMUNITY.

>> C. COMPTON: YOU SAY YOU HAVE TESTED THESE CONCEPTS?

>> MARTHA: YES, WHAT IT WOULD BE TO BUILD AND THE RETURN.

WOULD IT BE ATTRACTIVE TO A REAL ESTATE DEVELOPER TO DO RENTAL HOUSING ON THIS SITE, OR TO DO CONVENIENCE NEIGHBORHOOD RETAIL ON THE SITE.

>> C. COMPTON: IN TERMS OF TESTING, HAVE YOU EVER WORKED WITH A PROJECT WHERE THIS HAS BEEN DONE?

>> MARTHA: PARIS HAS, ABSOLUTELY.

>> PARIS: THERE'S A MARKET AROUND, YOU LOOK AT WHAT KIND OF USES WOULD BE IN DEMAND.

IT'S ONE THING IF SOMETHING IS IN DEMAND, IT'S QUITE ANOTHER IF IT COULD GET DONE ECONOMICALLY.

THE COST BENEFIT MAKES SENSE FOR SOMEONE TO INVEST $50 MILLION.

SO THAT'S BEEN LOOKED AT FROM A MARKET.

AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU AE ALL IN CONTROL OF THE KIND OF USES YOU WANT ON THE CAMPUS, OBVIOUSLY.

SO WE LOOKED AT WHAT COULD HAPPEN, REALISTICALLY.

HOW THAT COULD BE DONE ON THE GREEN FIELD YOU HAVE HERE, AND THERE'S A MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN ESSENTIALLY THAT WOULD BE PUT IN PLACE WITH PARCELS, THEN YOU HAVE A STRATEGY, AS JOHN MENTIONED YOU COULD WORK WITH PEOPLE THAT COME IN AND INQUIRIES.

>> C. COMPTON: LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION.

THE COMMERCIAL BUSINESS, THE HOUSING AND SO FORTH.

I DON'T KNOW.

YOU HAVE THE S.N.U. CAMPUS IN THERE.

THE RESTAURANTS AND COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES AND THEY ARE BUILT ON PRIVATE PROPERTY AND NOT S.N.U. PROPERTY.

YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THESE BEING BUILT ON OUR PROPERTY?

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>> PARIS: OUR UNDERSTANDING HOW TO LOOK AT THE TASK AT HAND IS HOW TO LOOK AT YOUR PROPERTY TO FURTHER YOUR ACADEMIC GOALS AND CREATES NEW ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES FOR YOU ALL, FOR THE DISTRICT ITSELF.

SO TO BUILD IT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET, THAT ABSOLUTELY CAN HAPPEN AND PROBABLY WILL, WITH ADDITIONAL INVESTMENT COMING IN.

IT KIND OF CHANGES THE DYNAMICS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND REAL ESTATE PATTERNS AROUND IT.

BUT OBVIOUSLY, YOU DON'T OWN THAT LAND.

I DOUBT YOU WOULD BUY LAND OFF YOUR PROPERTY, SO FORTH AND SO ON.

THAT'S WHY WE LOOKED AT THE GREEN FIELD WORKING OFF THE MASTER PLAN EASTFIELD CAMPUS HAS DONE ALREADY.

>> ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE DONE WHEN WE VIEWED THIS, IT WAS ALSO JUST LOOKING AT OUR 200 ACRES AT EASTFIELD.

IF YOU GO BACK UP JUST ANOTHER LEVEL.

THAT'S THE NEXT STEP WE'VE GOT TO TAKE THIS.

WHAT CAN WE IMPACT ABOUT DEVELOPMENT.

THERE ARE A WHOLE LOT OF APARTMENTS IN THERE, I WANT TO SAY WITHIN ADJACENT AREAS THERE'S PROBABLY ABOUT 2,000 UNITS.

I DON'T KOW THE EXACT NUMBER BUT TEY ARE IN NEED OF CHANGE.

WHAT COULD WE WORK WITH DEVELOPERS ABOUT RENOVATING THOSE.

THAT MAY CHANGE THE WHOLE DYNAMIC OF WHAT WE ARE SAYING WHAT GOES WHERE, OR WHAT WE MIGHT DO.

SO THE NEXT STEP OF THIS IS ALSO TAKE IT UP A LEVEL OF HOW ARE WE GOING TO IMPACT WHAT MIGHT BE THE HALF MILE RADIUS, THE ONE-MILE RADIUS.

AND FIVE-MILE RADIUS.

AND THAT'S PART OF WHAT THEY ARE LOOKING AT WHEN THEY GO THROUGH THIS.

THERE'S NO RESTAURANTS BY THE CAMPUS.

>> C. COMPTON: MAYBE A MILE DOWN THE ROAD.

>> CHANCELLOR J. MAY: BUT YOU'VE GOT TO FIND IT.

>> D. ZIMMERMANN: IF YOU ARE LOOKING AT IT, RESTAURANT ROW ISN'T THAT FAR FROM THERE.

>> MARTHA: TO MAKE THE CAMPUS MORE STICKY, RGHT NOW STUDENTS MAKE THE DECISION TO DO ONLINE LEARNING OR FACE-TO-FACE LEARNING BUT WE KNOW FACE-TO-FACE LEARNING IN MANY INSTANCES IS MORE EFFECTIVE, PARTICULARLY IN RETENTION.

STUDENTS COME IN, MAYBE THEY GO TO A CLASS, GET IN THEIR CAR AND LEAVE.

WE NEED TO INCREASE THE STICKINESS FOR THE STUDENT SO THEY STAY THERE, THEY SPEND TIME ON CAMPUS, THEY HAVE THE BASIC NEEDS THERE.

THEY SEE OTHER ACTIVITIES THAT ARE THERE, THE COMMUNITY COMES IN.

IF THERE'S AN ICE CREAM PARLOR, SO WHEN I'M TAKING MY KIDS TO GO PLAY SOCCER, WE DON'T ALL GET IN THE CAR, WE WALK OVER TO THE GATEWAY CENTER AND HAVE AN ICE CREAM CONE.

THE CHILDREN START TO SE, WOW, THIS COLLEGE CAMPUS BELONGS TO ME, I CAN BELONG HERE, I CAN BE HERE, I THINK RIGHT NOW THERE'S SUCH A FORTRESS FEELING TO IT.

WE WANT THE COMMUNITY TO FEEL THE COLLEGE BELONGS TO THEM SO IT'S ASPIRATIONAL FROM THE TIME THEY ARE YOUNG CHILDREN.

IF THERE'S A PARK AND PARENTS BRING THE CHILDREN TO THE PARK AND THERE'S A KIOSK, AT NIGHT YOU CAN TAKE A COMPUTER CLASS, WOW.

RIGHT NOW I DON'T THINK YOU ARE GETTING THAT.

SO IT'S TRYING TO BRING PEOPLE IN.

YOU WILL NEVER, NEVER NEED ALL THIS LAND.

IT WAS GREAT YOU WENT OUT AND GOT IT 50 YEARS AGO.

BUT THE TIME TO USE THESE ASSETS IS NOW, IN TERMS OF REIMAGINING WHAT THE COLLEGE CAN BE AND MAKING IT STICKY FOR THE STUDENTS.

BECAUSE THE MORE THEY ARE THERE, THEY WILL SEE THE ADVISOR, THE ADVISOR ISN'T HIDDEN AWAY.

THE ADVISING OFFICE I WHERE THEY ARE PICKING UP A SANDWICH.

WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT COMMERCIAL WE AREN'T TALKING FANCY, WE ARE TALKING BREAD AND BUTTER.

ON THE OTHER SIDE OF 30 THERE'S BOAT LOADS OF RETAIL, ALL OF WHICH IS FAIRLY SUCCESSFUL.

THERE'S A 4% OF VACANCY RATE FOR MESQUITE FOR APARTMENTS.

AND THE COST THOSE RATTIE APARTMENTS ARE GOING FOR IS PRETTY HIGH.

THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY NEW PRODUCT BROUGHT IN.

THERE'S PRODUCT FURTHER OT, NOT THAT FR, THAT'S BEEN PRETTY SUCCESSFUL.

THERE'S QUITE A NEED FOR RENTAL HOUSING IN THAT AREA AND YOU ARE SEING THAT KIND OF GROWTH.

WHAT WE TRIED TO DO HERE IS SORT OF SOLVE MULTIPLE PROBLEMS WITH A SIMILAR SOLUTION THAT KNITS THEM TOGETHER.

AND TO GET THE CONVERSATION STARTED.

WE AREN'T GOING TO SAY BUILD A 40-FOOT OFFICE TOWER.

MESQUITE DOESN'T NEED A THREE-STORY OFFICE TOWER.

>> D. ZIMMERMANN: I LOVE THE VISION, IT'S WONDERFUL.

MONEY IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT'S GREAT TO HAVE, BUT WHEN THE FIRST THING THAT COMES OUT OF YOUR MIND THAT A FOOD PANTRY IS ONE OF THE BEST THINGS WE CAN DO FOR OUR STUDENTS.

IF THEY ARE GOING TO A FOOD PANTRY THERE'S NO MONEY FOR ICE CREAM CONE FOR THE KID AFTER

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THE SOCCER GAME.

IF THEY ARE GOING TO A FOOD PANTRY THAT TELLS US WHERE OUR STUDENTS ARE.

THEY ARE ASKING FOR HELP WITH THEIR FOOD NEEDS.

>> CHANCELLOR J. MAY: WHICH, WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IS BEING ABLE TO LOOK AT ALL VARIATIONS OF THE ECONOMY.

THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO NEED OUR SERVICES.

THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO DO HAVE DISPOSABLE INCOME THAT MAYBE DON'T VIEW THE CAMPUS THE SAME WAY AS OTHERS DO.

THERE'S THAT ALL ENCOMPASSING VIEW.

WE AREN'T GOING TO SAY WE WILL DO THIS TOMORROW.

THE IDEA IT STARTS WITH A PLAN AND PLEASE TAKE POT SHOTS AS YOU WILL ON VARIOUS AREAS.

NONE OF THIS IS BEING DECIDED.

AND WHAT WE REALLY GOT TO DO ULTIMATELY IS DECIDE ON HOW DO WE APPROACH THIS AS WE DEVELOP THIS ANNUAL PLANNING PROCESS THAT WE ARE PUTTING IN PLACE.

>> HOW DOES THIS DEVELOPMENT CHANGE OUR STATUS.

>> C. COMPTON: CHANGE OUR WHAT?

>> OR STATUS.

NOW WE HAVE A COMMERCIAL ASPECT, WE HAVE POTENTIAL RESIDENTIAL.

WHAT DOES THAT DO TO WHERE WE STAND AS --

>> I PROBABLY SHOULDN'T GIVE LEGAL ADVICE, I WILL DO THIS FROM A BUSINESS STANDPOINT.

C.F.O.'S OUR BIGGEST AREA WE ALWAYS LOOK FOR THAT MAGICAL FOURTH LEG OF THE STOOL.

IT NEVER SEEMS TO BE THE ONE WE COULD HAVE.

WE ALWAYS HAVE TAXES, STATE APPROPRIATIONS AND TUITION, BUT THERE'S NOT THAT FOURTH LEVEL.

WE ARE ALLOWED TO DO AUXILIARY OPERATIONS.

ARE WE ALLOWED TO BE A FOR PROFIT ONLY COMPANY? NO.

I WILL SAY THAT IN CONVERSATIONS.

BUT FROM A BUSINESS MODEL, IF WHAT WE ARE DOING IS WE ARE ALLOWING THE USE OF OUR LAND AND RECEIVING A FEE FOR IT, L.S.U. IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE CLOSEST LARGE EXAMPLES THAT RECENTLY WENT THROUGH THIS THAT BASICALLY I BELIEVE IS ALREADY TURNING A PROFIT AFTER PUTTING THE THING IN OPERATION.

I'M NOT PROFIT DRIVEN TOTALLY BY THIS, BUT IF THIS COULD HELP OFFSET SOME OF THE MONEY WE HAVE TO PAY FOR IN BUILDING OUR OWN EUCATIONAL FACILITIES, WHY DON'T I LOOK AT ALL SOURCES OF REVENUE THAT MAY BE AVAILABLE TO THE DISTRICT AND KEEP, WE WILL HAVE TO KEEP IT ILLEGAL, BUT THERE'S WAYS WE COULD DO THAT.

>> JUST REAL BRIEFLY, WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IS CONCEPTUAL HERE.

NO DECISIONS ARE BEING MADE.

BUT WE ARE A TEXAS POLITICAL SUBDIVISION.

WE HAVE THE POLITICAL AUTHORITY TO MAKE USE OF OUR LAND BY VIRTUE AND THE DETAILS OF THIS WOULD BE FAR BEYOND THE SCOPE OF THIS DISCUSSION BUT IT COULD INVOLVE GROUND LEASES, IT COULD INVOLVE THINGS FOR A TERM THAT WOULD ALLOW THE INVESTING DEVELOPER TO GET RETURN ON INVESTMENT TO THE TERM THAT REVERTS BACK AFTER THAT PERIOD OF TIME.

NONE OF THAT WOULD JEOPARDIZE OUR STATUS AS A TEXAS POLITICAL SUBDIVISION.

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT CONCEPTS.

A P-3.

THERE ARE CERTAIN STATUTORY REQUIREMENT THAT'S WOULD HAVE TO BE SATISFIED TO DO THAT.

THE DECISIONS BY THE FOLKS AND BY THIS BOARD AS SUITABLE FOR THAT KIND OF DEVELOPMENT.

AND THEN WE WOULD SOLICIT FROM QUALIFIED DEVELOPER PROPOSALS FOR THE USE OF THAT, THAT MAY OR MAY NOT PASS MUSTER WHAT WE WANT TO DO ULTIMATELY WITH THE LAND.

BUT IT'S SOMETHING DONE COMMONLY BY INSTITUTIONS LIKE OURS.

>> AND JUST TO TALK A LITTLE ABOUT THE COMBINATION THERE, DOROTHY, WE HAVE STUDENTS WHO NEED VERY BASIC SOCIAL SERVICES AND HOW DOES THAT COINCIDE WITH THE RETAIL? FIRST OF ALL, IF YOU LOOK AT THE RETAIL SPENDING PATTERNS IN MESQUITE.

IT'S NOT HUGE AMOUNTS OF DISPOSABLE INCOME.

THEY DO TAKE THEIR KIDS FOR ICE CREAM, GET THEIR NAILS DONE AND HAIR DONE.

WE DID A PRETTY THOROUGH SURVEY OF THE RETAIL TYPES OF OPERATIONS THAT ARE SUCCESSFUL IN THE AREA.

IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, IF YOU LOOK AT THE PLAN HERE, THE TWO SORT OF LONG RECTANGLES THERE, WHAT WE ENVISION THERE IS A TWO-STORY BUILDING WITH THE MORE COMMERCIAL RETAIL ON THE GROUND FLOOR.

THAT IS FAST CASUAL RESTAURANTS.

THERE'S A LOT OF NEIGHBORHOOD RESTAURANTS.

IF YOU WALK AROUND THE STRIP RETAIL OUT THERE IS VERY SORT OF BEAT UP AND YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT VERY GOOD QUALITY.

BUT YOU HAVE A HUGE, YOU SEE IT'S SUCCEEDING VERY MUCH ON THE OTHER SIDE OF HIGHWAY 30.

WE ARE SEEING THESE KINDS OF PRIVATE, PROBABLY SOME OF THESE WOULD BE NATIONAL CHAINS.

SOME WOULD BELOW CAL COMMUNITIES BUT LOOKING AT THE PREVAILING COMMERCIAL RENTS IN OTHER PARTS OF MESQUITE, IT ARE SEEING THESE SMALL STORE FRONTS.

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YOU HAVE THEN, THE ENTIRE SECOND FLOOR WE ENVISION AS BEING REALLY THERE FOR STUDENT AND COMMUNITY USE.

WHETHER IT BE CO-WORKING, WHETHER IT BE STUDENT COMMUNITY OFFICES, WHETHER IT BE REACH-OUT.

SO MAYBE YOU GO UP THE STAIRCASE TO THE FOOD PANTRY OR MAYBE IT'S LOCATED THERE, WE SEE A LOT OF ABILITY TO PLUG IN VARIOUS SOCIAL SERVICES IN THIS BROADER PIECE.

SO IT'S PART OF THE WHOLE PROCESS.

A LOCAL GREEN GROCER, KIND OF A FOOD DESERT AND KIND OF A GROCERY DESERT IN THAT AREA.

IT DEPENDS HOW YOU LOOK AT YOUR RADIUSES AND HOW BIG OF A BARRIER YOU CONSIDER HIGHWAY 30 TO BE.

WE AREN'T PUTTING A MEE MAN MARKUS IN.

-- NEIMAN MARCUS.

WE ARE PUTTING HAIR, NAILS, BARBERSHOP, KINKOS SERVICE, ATM, TAX-PREP BUSINESS.

THESE ARE ALL LOCAL BUSINESSES, TYPES OF BUSINESSES ALREADY THRIVING IN THE LOCAL AREA.

BUT TO BRING THAT TOGETHER, THOSE ARE THINGS THE COMMUNITY WILL COME TO USE AS WELL AS THE STUDENTS.

THE POINT IS THE COMMUNITY COMES HERE, THEY SEE THE COLLEGE, THEY SEE WHAT IT HAS TO OFFER.

THEY FEEL IT'S PART OF THEIR COMMUNITY.

PARIS WILL TALK MORE ABOUT THIS IDEA.

BUT THE STAIRCASES IN THAT CENTRAL AREA.

THAT COULD BE PROGRAMMED FOR MUSIC PERFORMANCES, COMMUNITY EVENTS.

IT'S REALLY BRINGING EVERYBODY TOGETHER.

AND ALSO TO SERVE THOSE DAY-TO-DAY NEEDS.

THE STUDENTS EAT SOMEWHERE.

THEY ARE BUYING SUBWAY SANDWICHES, IT WOULD BE NEW YORK ISLANDERS -- IF THEY COULD BUY LOCAL TACOS FROM A LOCAL TAQUERIA.

WE ARE TRYING TO GROUND IT IN THE SOCIAL ECONOMICS OF THE MESQUITE AREA.

>> C. COMPTON: IF YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT ALL THESE MIXED USES AND APARTMENTS AND ALL THIS STUFF, YOU MADE THE COMMENT, YOU WILL NEVER USE ALL OF THIS LAND.

AND MY THOUGHT IN LOOKING AT THIS WHEN WE BUILD ALL TIS STUFF, WHY DON'T WE SELL THAT ACREAGE.

THE LAND WAS HERE, SO WE COULD EXPAND.

YOU SAID IT.

HOW DO WE KNOW WE WILL NEVER USE IT ALL AT THIS POINT? WE DON'T KNOW.

>> MARTHA: RIGHT.

THAT'S WHY THERE IS PLENTY OF EXPANSION ROOM ON IT.

>> THIS IS REALLY HELPFUL IN ILLUSTRATING SOME BROAD POLICY ISSUES WE NEED TO CONSIDER IN TERMS OF OUR MASTER PLAN DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY ACROSS ALL SEVEN CAMPUSES.

ONE KEY ISSUE YOU RAISED, I THINK THIS BOARD NEEDS TO MAKE SOME JUDGMENTS HOW MUCH LND AT EACH CAMPUS WE WANT TO USE AND HOW MUCH WE SHOULD PERHAPS PRESERVE FOR SUBSEQUENT GENERATIONS T MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT THINGS, WE CAN'T EVEN ANTICIPATE TODAY.

I DON'T BELIEVE WE CAN --

>> C. COMPTON: I'M NOT SAYING IT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER HOW I FEEL ABOUT IT.

>> WE HAVE TO DEBATE THAT AND THINK ABOUT IT.

THE SECOND ONE IS, T WHAT DEGREE DO WE GO TO ENCOURAGE PRIVATE PUBLIC PARTNERSHIPS.

WE OUGHT TO HAVE A POLICY DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT.

AND THE THIRD ONE IS, HOUSING.

THIS IS VERY HELPFUL AND ILLUSTRATES THINGS WE OUGHT TO TALK ABOUT AS A BOARD BEFORE WE GO AND MAKE DECISIONS ON THAT KIND OF STUFF.

WE ARE GOING TO SET THAT UP, RIGHT?

>> MARTHA: YEAH.

>> D. ZIMMERMANN: SECURITY IS SOMETHING ELSE I DON'T THINK WE HAVE LOOKED INTO.

IF WE HAVE OUR STUDENTS REQUIRED TO WEAR THEIR BADGES ON CAMPUS, THEN IF THEY ARE A STUDENT ARE THEY REQUIRED TO BE THERE? WEAR THEIR BADGES ONLY WHEN THEY ARE THERE FOR SCHOOL? OR IF THEY ARE A STUDENT AND THEY AREN'T THERE FOR CLASSES BUT THEY ARE THERE FOR SOMETHING ELSE, ARE THEY STILL REQUIRED TO WEAR THEIR BADGES? THE SECURITY THING, THE MORE WE ENTICE, THE MORE SECURITY WE ARE REQUIRED TO BUILD IN BECAUSE WE CAN'T ENTICE SOMEONE INTO A DANGEROUS SITUATION.

>> D. FLORES: I THINK IT'S GOOD FOR US TO DEVELOP POLICY, WHEN

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AND WHAT ON OUR LAND.

BUT WHAT IS THE TOTAL ACREAGE? I MIGHT HAVE BEEN TOLD BEFORE AND IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED WHEN I WAS OUT OF THE ROOM.

WHAT IS THE TOTAL ACREAGE AT EASTFIELD?

>> ABOUT 244.

>> D. FLORES: 244.

AND THIS DEVELOPMENT, IF WE WERE TO APPROVE IT, WHAT IS THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF ACREAGE IT WOULD USE UP?

>> WE HAVE THOSE FIGURES, WE CAN GET THAT TO YOU, IF YOU LOOK AT THE SCREEN AND THE IMAGE, THE VAST AMOUNT OF THE LAND IS STILL TO BE DEVELOPED FOR ACADEMIC USES.

SO WHAT WE ARE REALLY LOOKING AT IS WHAT IS IN YELLOW AND WHAT'S IN PINK THERE.

THAT IS LESS THAN AN 1/8.

>> D. FLORES: I THOUGHT YOU HAD SAID ABOUT SIX ACRES OR LESS.

>> WHAT WE WERE BASING THAT OFF IS TRYING TO DO THIS.

>> THAT'S A GOOD WAY.

>> IF YOU CONSIDER THIS, IN AN INITIAL PHASE IT'S BASICALLY SETTING THE INFRASTRUCTURE UP SO IT'S MORE INTERCONNECTED FOR THE STUDENTS THEMSELVES.

YOU LOOK AT THE PRIVATE POTENTIAL AND THEY ARE IN AN INITIAL PHASE IN RED.

YOU LOOK AT SAY A SECOND PHASE IN RED.

THERE IS SECOND PHASE OF ACADEMIC.

HERE, THESE ARE PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE CITY TO BASICALLY LAND BANK PROPERTY FOR ATHLETIC FIELDS.

ALL WITH EXCEPTION OF THE BLUE BUILDING, ALL IS SOMETHING THAT COULD BE DEVELOPED IN THE FUTURE FOR ACADEMIC PURPOSES.

IT'S THE VAST AMOUNT OF THE PROPERTY.

WE ARE REALLY TALKING ABOUT A VERY SMALL PERCENTAGE OF YOUR PROPERTY, REALISTICALLY.

I'M A BIG BELIEVER IN ANY PUBLIC DOLLAR INVESTED SHOULD BE DONE WHERE YOU ARE GETTING A MULTIPLE BENEFIT OUT OF THAT DOLLAR.

YOU ARE GETTING AN ACADEMIC BENEFIT AND ALSO A COMMUNITY BENEFIT.

I THINK THE CONCEPT OF HAVING A COLLECTION OF BUILDINGS WITH A LOT OF LAND AROUND IT, IF ANYTHING CREATES A MORE DANGEROUS CONDITION BECAUSE YOU ARE OFF BY YOURSELF, HAVING WORKED ON THE PLAN THAT IS NOW UPTOWN DALLAS, SHOPS, LEGACY, LANCASTER VILLAGE, THESE ARE ALL PLACES WHERE WE CALL EYES ON THE STREET.

YOU GET MORE ACTIVITY, MORE PEOPLE LOOKING AT IT.

IT CREATES A MORE SELF-POLICING ENVIRONMENT BECAUSE OF THE NATURE O THE ENVIRONMENT AND ACTIVITY GOING ON.

SOME IS BUILT INTO THE THINKING HERE.

RIGHT NOW IT'S A BIT OF A FORTRESS.

BUT IT REALLY ISN'T A FORTRESS.

ANYBODY CAN WALK UP IN THERE AS IT IS NOW, DAY OR NIGHT TIME.

THIS GTS MORE PEOPLE LOOKING OUT AT THE PUBLIC SPACES AND COMMON AREAS AND GIVES MANY MORE PEOPLE A REASON TO BE THERE.

AND THAT'S KIND OF PART AND PARCEL PART OF THE CONCEPT.

>> D. FLORES: ONE MORE QUESTION.

A REQUEST, WHEN THESE ARE BROUGHT TO US, PLAN, CALL FOR DEVELOPMENT, THEY AREN'T STRICTLY ACADEMIC, COLLEGE-RELATED, SPECIFICALLY.

YOU LET US KNOW HOW MUCH LAND?

>> AND TOO, THIS BEING OUR FIRST PLAN.

WE WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE THIS WITH THE OTHER COLLEGES.

NOT SURE WHAT THAT PLAN IS OVERALL BUT TO HAVE THIS CONCEPT.

WE AREN'T SAYING THIS IS WHAT'S GOING TO GO WHERE.

WE AREN'T SETTING POLICY BY TRYING TO ADOPT THESE.

BUT WE HAVE PEOPLE COMING TO OUR RESIDENCES AND COLLEGES EVERY DAY WANTING TO DO THIS OR WANTING TO DO THAT.

WE ARE LOOKING AT A SITUATION WHERE PARKLAND AND CEDAR VALLEY.

WHERE DO WE PUT IT? IF WE WERE TO DO THAT DEAL, WHERE DOES IT GO? WE DON'T DO THIS WITH CEDAR VALLEY.

AND TO HAVE THIS CONCEPT.

WILL W EVER BUILD HOUSING? I'M NOT GOING TO BE HERE FOR IT.

BUT DO WE HAVE SPACE TO EXPAND INTO THE BALL FIELDS? YES, WE DO.

AND THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE ARE DOING.

WE'VE GOT TO BE UPDATING THIS EVERY YEAR AS WE GO THROUGH.

BUT WE DON'T HAVE A ROAD MAP TO START WITH.

WE ARE GOING TO HAPHAZARDLY PUT BUILDINGS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CAMPUS AND NOT UNDERSTAND HOW IT CONNECTS.

>> CHARLETTA?

>> C. COMPTON: YOU WILL HAVE TO DO BETTER WITH THESE MAPS.

I CAN BARELY READ THIS STUFF.

AND I'M SITTING HERE SQUINTING TRYING TO SEE WHAT THIS LITTLE BITTY AND MY GLASSES ARE FOR DISTANCES, I SEE VERY WELL, BUT THIS IS BLURRY AND IT'S TAKING ME A MINUTE TO EVEN TRY TO READ SOME OF THIS STUFF AND ACCLIMATE MYSELF TO WHAT STREET IS WHERE.

>> THAT'S A GOOD POINT.

>> IF WE CAN IMPROVE ON THE VISUALS IN THESE MAPS.

>> WE WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT.

AND WE COULD GO DOWN.

WE KEPT IT THE BIG PICTURE BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE ARE REALLY TALKING ABOUT NOW.

BUT YOU ARE CORRECT.

THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN A MUCH LONGER PRESENTATION.

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WE ACTUALLY DID THAT, I CUT THOSE SLIDES OUT.

>> C. COMPTON: I WONDER IF YOU CAN ZOOM IN.

DOESN'T IT GET A LITTLE BLURRY?

>> NO, BUT WHAT IT DID, YOU HAVE TO HAVE YOUR GOOD AERIAL PERSPECTIVE OF WHERE WE ARE GOING.

SO IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS YOU DO THIS AND THEN WE GO INTO AN AREA AND EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT BEING ABLE TO SEE.

WE CAN DO MORE OF THAT.

>> PARIS: I WOULD SAY MORE OF A PARTING CONCEPT, YOU HAVE MULTIPLE CAMPUS, EACH HAVE THEIR OWN OPPORTUNITIES AS IT RELATES TO ACADEMIC POTENTIAL, NON-ACADEMIC POTENTIAL, ALL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE CENTERS OF COMMUNITY.

THAT'S A BROAD TERM.

BUT ALL HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO HAVE MORE ACTIVATION, MORE OF A SELF-POLICING ENVIRONMENT, MORE OF JUST MORE GOING ON.

THE DFFERENCE TO JOHN'S POINT, AND WE HAVE WORKED ON HUNDREDS OF MASTER PLAN ENVIRONMENTS IS YOU ARE IN A SENSE IN KIND OF A MASTER DEVELOPMENT ROLE BECAUSE YOU OWN THE ASETS OF THE LAND.

SO ANYONE IN A MASTER DEVELOPMENT ROLE WILL HAVE A STRATEGY PLAN IN PLACE, JUST IN TERMS OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND REQUEST THEY ARE BRINGING, WHETHER INTERNAL OR EXTERNAL.

THIS PLAN, IF YOU TAKE THE BUILDINGS OUT AND LOOK AT THE BASE INFRASTRUCTURE, THERE ARE BLOCKS OF LAND AND INFRASTRUCTURE THAT ACTS AS THAT LAND AND IT HELPS YOU THINK THROUGH THE POLICY OBJECTIVES OF THE TYPE OF USE YOU WANT IN THERE.

WE POPULATED IT WITH WHAT THE MARKET CAN AFFORD RIGHT NOW.

BUT AS IT IS CURRENTLY I CAN GIVE LOTS OF ANECDOTES BUT I CAN THINK OF SITUATIONS WITHOUT THAT KIND OF STRATEGY OR A PLAN, IT'S DIFFICULT TO MAKE DECISIONS BECAUSE YOU ARE OFTEN IN A NEBULOUS ENVIRONMENT OF THE FOREST, WITHOUT HAVING SPECIFIC IDEAS THIS IS WHERE WE ARE GOING TO GO NEXT.

OUR DOORS ARE OPEN FOR THIS KIND OF USE BUT NOT THIS KIND OF USE FOR THE VARIOUS REASONS INVOLVED IN THAT.

I THINK THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF A DISCUSSION.

IT'S CERTAINLY NOT THE END.

AND THAT WAS THE GOAL.

>> C. COMPTON: ONE LAST QUESTION.

I UNDERSTAND YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT A MASTER PLAN CONCEPT.

HAVE YOU ALL HAD ANY CONVERSATIONS WITH ANY OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS SURROUNDING EASTFIELD?

>> NOT YET.

BUT PART OF THAT IS D. THIELER HAS BEEN WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY OF MESQUITE.

AS WE DO THIS HOW DOES IT INTEGRATE WITH THE MUNICIPALITIES AROUND US.

WHETHER THE COUNTIES, THE CITIES, OUR SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND OTHERS, AS WE START TO DEVELOP THIS.

DR. THIELER, YOU GOT 30 SECONDS MAYBE?

>> I COULD BE REALLY QUICK.

WE ALREADY HVE A MEETING SET UP IN JANUARY.

WE ARE TRYING TO GET THE PRESENTATION DONE BEFORE THE BOARD WITH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OFFICER.

THE CITY OF MESQUITE IS ALREADY WORKING ON INITIAL STAGE OF THEIR MASTER PLAN --

>> LIKE WE ARE.

>> IT WOULD BE WONDERFUL TO HAVE OUR VISION INCORPORATED IN THAT MASTER PLAN.

>> C COMPTON: YOU ALL KEEP TALKING ABOUT THESE PUBLIC ENTITIES AND MUNICIPALITIES.

I'M TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE THAT LIVE ACROSS THE STREET.

>> THAT TOO.

THAT TOO.

>> C. COMPTON: BECAUSE I LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND I'VE BEEN THROUGH ALL THIS STUFF.

AND I UNDERSTAND ALL THESE LITTLE CONCEPTS AND ALL THIS KIND OF STUFF, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THEM RAGGITY BROKE DOWN APARTMENTS, THERE'S A REASON THEY EXIST.

THEY HAVE A CERTAIN ELEMENT THEY LIVE IN THAT, THEY CAN'T GET IN NO NICE PRETTY AND THAT'S JUST THE REALITIES WHAT WE ARE DEALING WITH.

DEPENDING ON WHAT THESE NEIGHBORHOODS SAY, YOU END UP WITH SO MANY DEED RESTRICTIONS ON HERE, YOU WILL END UP SITTING THERE WITH HALF YUR COMPLEX EMPTY.

BECAUSE PEOPLE THAT REALLY NEED DECENT HOUSING CAN'T GET IN IT.

THAT'S WONDERFUL.

THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS, THAT PAYS EVERYBODY'S SALARY, THEY DON'T GET THEIR SAY.

>> YOU ARE RIGHT.

>> C. COMPTON: THEY NEED TO GET THEIR WAY OF WHAT THEY WANT.

AND THAT'S JUST THE REALITIES OF IT.

BUT I UNDERSTAND HAVING A CONCEPT.

>> MESQUITE DOESN'T HAVE DART.

>> THAT'S CORRECT.

BUT WE DO HAVE DART SERVICE COMING TO THE CAMPUS RIGHT NOW.

BECAUSE THEY COME DOWN LA PRADA OR BIG TOWN OR WHATEVER YOU CALL IT.

AND THEY PULL INTO OUR CAMPUS.

PART OF WHAT WE NEED TO WORK WITH DART IS HOW DO WE EXPAND THAT.

RIGHT NOW IT STOPS AT FIVE OR SEVEN OR SIX.

BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY AFTER DART.

-- DARK.

THEY HAVE TO WALK TO LA PRADA.

>> D. ZIMMERMANN: AND LA PRADA IS A PROBLEM.

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LOOK AT WHERE IT IS COMPARED TO OUR CAMPUS.

>> I'M AWARE, AND AGAIN, WE WEREN'T TRYING TO SOLVE ALL THE PROBLEM OR GET IN THE DETAIL.

IF WE UPDATE THE MASTER PLAN ALL ALONG WE WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE ON THAT PATH WITH THE OTHER CAMPUSES.

>> IS THERE ANYONE WHO BELIEVES WE SHOULD NOT CONTINUE DOWN THE ROAD OF DOING DEVELOPMENTAL MASTER PLANS FOR -- ANYBODY THINK THAT IS A GOOD IDEA?

>> D. ZIMMERMANN: I THINK WE NEED 4-5 DAYS TO DISCUSS PARTS AND PIECES AND -- BECAUSE SEE, THE POINT THERE WAS A WHOLE PAGE USED FOR TRANSIT.

AND THEY DON'T HAVE BUS SERVICE.

-- FACILITIES MASTER PLAN WHICH IS GOING FORWARD LATER NEXT YEAR, RIGHT? IS THAT WHERE WE ARE?

>> AND THE TRANSPORTATION PLAN IS A GREAT EXAMPLE.

MESQUITE HAS A PLAN AND WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HOW WE INTEGRATE.

>> M. BRAVO: ALSO THE CITY OF DALLAS IS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE CAMPUS.

SO THERE IS DART ACCESS THROUGH THE CITY OF DALLAS.

>> TRANSPORTATION INCLUDES UBER AND LYFT AND PARA TRANSIT.

>> WE WERE ALSO INTRIGUED BY THE FACT YOU HVE 115,000 CARS A DAY ON 30.

AND SO MANY PEOPLE ARE, AND THE POPULATION IS MOVING EAST.

SO WOULD THERE BE A PARK N RIDE OR SOME SORT OF DART SYSTEM PEOPLE COULD PARK AND GO DOWNTOWN.

AGAIN THEY PICK UP GROCERIES OUTDOORS OR DO OTHER THINGS ON CAMPUS.

YOU HAVE SOME LAND THERE.

IT'S AN IDEA TO EXPLORE WITH D.A.R.T.

NOT ONLY THE TRANSIT FOR THE STUDENTS GETTING ACCESS IN AND OUT OF THE COMPAM -- CAMPUS BUT YOU HAVE THIS INCREDIBLE OPPORTUNITY.

>> MARTHA: THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.

IT'S BEEN APLEASURE WORKING WITH YOU.

>> C. COMPTON: NEED TO CHANGE POLICY WHICH I THINK IS A SEPARATE DISCUSSION.

BECAUSE WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT FOR OUR LAND, YOU GIVE IN TO A LOT OF DIFFERENT ISSUES.

WE OPEN OURSELVES UP TO ADDITIONAL LIABILITIES BECAUSE YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT AN OWNER, MANAGING DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE DON'T HAVE EXPECTATIONS -- AND SO FORTH.

IF THEY DON'T WANT THAT LAND USED IN THOSE ADDITIONAL MANNERS, THEN WE WALKED INTO A REAL BIG PROBLEM.

BUT I THINK SOME DISCUSSIONS NEED TO BE HAD WITH NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS OR SOMETHING.

>> TOWN HALL MEETINGS.

>> C. COMPTON: UH-HUH.

TO GET FEEDBACK.

TO SEE WHAT THEY WANT AND WHAT THEY ENVISION.

BECAUSE I'M SURE WITH ALL THE LAND THAT WE'VE GOT, SOMEBODY IN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS THOUGHT ABOUT WHAT WE OUGHT TO BE DOING WITH IT.

AND IT MAY BE SOMETHING WE HAVEN'T THOUGHT ABOUT.

>> D. ZIMMERMANN: I'VE LIVED IN THE AEA SINCE 1978.

AND THERE'S A STACK OF APARTMENTS THAT WERE PULLED DOWN BECAUSE THE RATTY CONDITION.

AND IT'S NOT LIKE THEY JUST DECIDED, OKAY THESE WERE BAD, SO WE WILL JUST BUILD BIGGER ONES, OR WE WILL BUILD NICER ONES.

BASICALLY WHAT HAPPENED IS THAT LAND IS FERILL NOW.

THEY COULDN'T MAKE MONEY ON IT.

IT WAS MAYBE THE MID 90'S IT WAS PULLED DOWN.

SO FOR THE LENGTH OF TIME IT'S BEEN SITTING FERREL, IT WAS

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RIGHT ON THE FREEWAY.

SEE, THEY HAVE TALKED ABOUT CLINICS AND THINGS.

THE HOSPITAL THAT WAS JUST DOWN THE STREET WENT BUST.

I WOULD HATE TO BUILD SOMETHING, PARTICULARLY IN THE MAJOR PORTION WHERE THEY TALKED ABOUT AND HAVE THAT NOT, IF IT FLOURISHED, THAT WOULD BE AN EXCEPTIONAL THING.

BUT IF IT WASN'T THE BIG ATTENTION GETTER RIGHT OFF IT AT THE START THEN ALL OF THE SUDDEN THAT WOULD BE A BLACK EYE IN THE VERY FRONT OF THE PROPERTY BECAUSE EVERYONE DRIVING BY, THE 115,000 CARS OR WHATEVER.

YEAH.

>> W. JAMESON: LET ME SAY SOMETHING, ONE OF THE THINGS I HAVE NOTICED, THE STUDENT BODY, THE ROLE OF THE PRESIDENTS, NOT JUST PRESIDENTS BUT THE OTHER CAMPUS STAFF HAVE IN MANAGING AND UNDERSTANDING THE OUTREACH AND DYNAMIC AND SOME ISSUES BEING RAISED.

WE HAVE GOT TO HAVE A HIGH LEVEL OF COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND PLANNING, TO SUPPORT OUR PLANNING PROCESS IF WE ARE GOING TO REALIZE CAMPUS GATEWAY, I WOULD JUST ASK IF YOU AND JOHN COULD CREATE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE BOARD MEMBERS TO BE APPRISED OF THE TIMING AND NATURE OF THAT OUTREACH AND PERHAPS GIVE US A CHANCE SO WE CAN GO AND LISTEN AND HAR WHAT THE COMMUNITY IS SAYING AND IT WOULD HELP US BETTER INFORM THE DECISIONS W HAVE TO MAKE AND THAT'S SOMETHING YOU COULD DO.

>> ONCE YOU GO, I WAS INVOLVED AND EVERY COMMUNITY WHERE WE WERE LOCATED LOOKING AT WHAT THE NEEDS AND EXPECTATIONS ARE.

IT REALLY IS AN IMPORTANT PROCESS.

I TINK WHAT YOU WERE JUST GETTING HERE WAS THE CONCEPT BEHIND WHAT IS POSSIBLE.

IT'S UP TO US TO DECIDE WHAT, WHERE WE WANT TO GO AND WHAT THE DIRECTION IS.

I THINK TO IGNORE OUR ASSETS IS AN OPTION.

OR THERE MAY BE SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO PARTNER AND DO THINGS WE HAVEN'T DONE BEFORE BUT THAT'S UP TO US.

>> I'M NOT SAYING WE SHOULDN'T PLAN OR BE INTENTIONAL ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY OUTREACH SHOULD THE OPPORTUNITY ARISE.

>> C. COMPTON: I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO INVEST ANY MORE TIME AND MONEY IF IT'S COSTING US ANYTHING, UNTIL WE ARE -- BECAUSE ULTIMATELY AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE REPRESENT THE COMMUNITY.

AND THAT'S THE LAST THING YOU WANT THEM TO COME IN AND SAY, IS THEY NEVER TALKED TO US, THEY JUST WENT FORWARD AND DID THAT.

FOR US, TO BE INFORMED, AS TO WHAT THOSE COMMUNITIES WANT.

I MEAN, THEY LOVE THIS! I DON'T KNOW.

BUT I KNOW AT THIS POINT I DON'T KNOW AND IT DOESN'T APPEAR THAT ANYBODY ELSE HAS HAD A CONVERSATION WITH ANYBODY.

>> M. BRAVO: WOULD IT REQUIRE ANY ZONING CHANGES? BECAUSE THEN IT WOULD HAVE TO GO TO THE COMMUNITY.

>> CHANCELLOR J. MAY: I'VE HAD TO SLOW THEM DOWN, LET'S GET THE COMMUNITY AND DEVELOPERS IN.

NO, WAIT A MINUTE, YOU ARE GETTING THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE.

ONE IS THE CONCEPT TO THE BARD TO SAY YES, BUT YOU ABSOLUTELY ARE CORRECT.

WHEN WE COULD HAVE SOMETHING MORE CONCRETE AS WE ARE PLANNING THINGS, OR AS THINGS DEVELOP, WE'VE GOT TO LOOK AT SECURITY AND TALK TO THE COMMUNITY.

WE'VE GOT TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS.

WE ARE JUST SO HIGH LEVEL RIGHT NOW, WHAT WE ARE REALLY LOOKING AT IS JUST, IF WE DON'T PLAN, YOU ARE SURE TO ACHIEVE IT.

>> C. COMPTON: LET ME SHARE A STORY, AND PEOPLE WON'T BE SURPRISED I WAS THE ONE WHO CALLED.

WE HAVE AN ISSUE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WITH A CHURCH TRYING TO DO SOME STUFF THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD DIDN'T WANT.

AND IT INVOLVED A LITTLE STREET THAT WENT THROUGH THERE.

WELL, THEY FORGOT ABOUT STREET SIGNS WHEN THEY WERE TRYING TO FORCE THIS DOWN OUR THROATS.

SO THEY REALLY MADE EVERYBODY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD MAD.

SO ONE SUNDAY MORNING EVERYBODY CALLED THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE ALL THE CHURCH MEMBERS WERE PARKED DOWN THEIR STREET AND IT SAID NO PARKING.

SO WHEN THEY CAME OUT THEY

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DIDN'T HAVE FO CAR.

-- NO CAR.

AND WE OPPOSED GETTING THE STREET SIGNS CHANGED.

I'M SAYING, THE COMMUNITY CAN MAKE YOUR LIFE HELL, IF THEY DECIDE THEY DON'T LIKE WHAT YOU ARE DOING.

BY DOING LITTLE STUFF.

[B. Post Amazon Briefing Presenter: Joe May]

>>

>> C. COMPTON: IT WASN'T JUST ME.

>> AMAZON BRIEFING.

I WILL BE BRIEF ON THIS.

ALL OF YOU ARE AWARE OF THE NATIONAL EFFORT TO HELP AMAZON SELECT THEIR LOCAL COMMUNITY AS THE CHOICE WHERE THEY WOULD LOCATE 50,000 JOBS PAYING OVER $100,000 EACH.

WE KNOW THAT THE WINNERS OF THAT WERE -- AREA IN NEW YORK AND ALSO IN NORTHERN VIRGINIA AREA RIGHT UP NEXT TO -- AIRPORT.

ONE OF THE KEY COMPONENTS OF THE PROPOSAL, OF COURSE THESE WERE ALL SECRET UNTIL NOW AND I'M SITTING WITH PROPOSALS IN MY INBOX FROM OTHERS.

I THINK PART OF THIS WAS ESSENTIALLY AT EVERY LOCATION A NEW INSTITUTION HIRED TO SUPPORT THE WORKFORCE.

NORTHERN VIRGINIA, VIRGINIA TECH IS BUILDING A NEW CAMPUS THERE, PUTTING $50 MILLION IN INITIALLY.

GEORGE MASON IS JOINING THAT EFFORT WITH $150 MILLION.

NORTHERN VIRGINIA COMMUNITY COLLEGE IS CENTRAL TO THAT, THE SAME IN NEW YORK.

LAGUARDIA WAS KEY.

AND THE DALLAS PROPOSAL FOR THAT, THERE WAS CREATED, THE LANGUAGE SECTION CALLED AMAZON UNIVERSITY WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN PROPOSED TO B A COLLABORATIVE BETWEEN EL CENTRO COLLEGE, UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS.

TEXAS A&M COMING COLLABORATIVELY TOGETHER TO MEET THAT NEED.

YOU HAVE KIND OF THE ONE-PAGER.

THIS WAS CONDENSED DOWN FOR THAT PURPOSE.

YOU ALSO HVE THE EDITORIAL THAT SAYS GO AHEAD WITH THAT.

SO THERE IS A BIG PUSH IN THE COMMUNITY TO ADDRESS WHAT WAS PERCEIVED AS A WEAKNESS IN OUR PROPOSAL WAS A LAG PARTICULARLY WITH PEOPLE WITH TECHNICAL DEGREES ALIGNED WITH WHAT THE NEEDS OF THAT PARTICULAR JOBS WERE.

ALTHOUGH WE WERE COMPETITIVE RIGHT DOWN TO THE WIRE.

I JUST WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU JUST BRIEFLY.

THIS AGAIN IS CONCEPTUAL, WHAT WAS PUT, WHAT PUT TOGETHER, I MENTIONED IT BECAUSE YESTERDAY MAYOR RAWLINGS CONVENED A GROUP, MET WITH ALL THE HIGHER ED LEADERS FROM T.W.U. ALL THE WAY AROUND TO DISCUSS THE CONCEPT GOING FORWARD IN SOME FASHION DOWNTOWN.

OF COURSE, WE WERE ALWAYS VERY CAREFUL.

EVERYTHING WE D WOULD REQUIRE BOARD APPROVAL IN TERMS OF MAKING THAT HAPPEN.

BUT WE SUBMITTED THE CONCEPT WE COULD DO SOMETHING WITH EL SEN TROLL AROUND THAT.

THE IDEA BEING THAT WE KNEW FROM DAY ONE IT CAN'T BE DONE ALONE.

IF YOU LOOK AT ALL THE WINNING PROJECTS OR COLLABORATIVE BETWEEN MLTIPLE INSTITUTIONS, IT ULTIMATELY WAS ABOUT HOW DO YOU CREATE A PIPELINE TO MEET THE OUT GOING NEEDS.

AND IN THIS CASE IT WAS EL CENTRAL THAT WAS GOING TO BE THE ANCHOR.

THEY HAD SEVERAL ARTIST RENDERINGS OF WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE.

ESSENTIALLY THE PARTNERSHIPS ON THIS WERE K-12 AS WELL AS US, -- AS WELL AS BRINGING IN OTHERS TO SUPPORT.

THEY REALLY LIKED SOME OF THESE GOING ON IN THE COMMUNITY AROUND HOW WE MEET THE NEEDS PARTICULARLY THEY WERE FOCUSED ON I.T. BUT WE ALSO PUT IN HEALTHCARE AS WELL AS OTHER REGIONAL DEMAND OCCUPATIONS WITHIN THAT AND SUPPORTING ENTREPRENEURISM AND MAKING THAT A REALITY.

COULD YOU CLICK THE SLIDE, PLEASE?

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SO ALSO, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS DESIRED IN THE PROPOSAL WOULD HAVE BEEN HOUSING FOR STUDENTS TO SUPPORT THAT IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.

SO THAT IT WOULD BE AFFORDABLE THE RECOGNITION THEY WANT A VIABLE DOWNTOWN.

THEY WANT TO BE PART O A DOWNTOWN URBAN AREA.

THEY WANT LOTS OF YOUNG PEOPLE IN THAT COMMUNITY.

SO PART OF JUST THE CONCEPT WOULD HAVE BEEN PUBLIC FACING RESTAURANT.

KIND OF WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER TODAY BUT IN AN URBAN SETTING.

IN OUR CASE WE LAID OUT IF WE WERE TO DO SOMETHING ALONG THIS LINE, WOULD HAVE EL CENTRO WE WERE MAKING THIS WORK, UNIVERSITY SPACE OF 200-300 SQUARE FEET.

LOOK AT VARIOUS PARTNERSHIP THAT WOULD REQUIRE MULTIPLE INVESTMENTS FROM MULTIPLE ENTITIES TO MAKE THIS WORK GOING FORWARD.

WITH THE CITY TAKING THE LEAD.

YOU HEARD FROM COLLIERS ALREADY THEY WOULD BE INVOLVED.

LET ME MENTION BECAUSE IT'S NOW PUBLIC.

THERE WERE THREE POSSIBLE SITES THAT WERE CONSIDERED FOR THIS.

LET ME TELL YOU WHERE EACH OF THEM ARE, SOME OF YOU WERE ON THE TOUR.

THERE WERE 16 ACRES BEHIND CITY HALL THAT GOES ALL THE WAY UP TO THE FARMERS' MARKET.

THAT WOULD HAVE HOUSED BOTH THE AMAZON, 5 MILLION SQUARE FEET, PLUS APPROXIMATELY 1.2 SQUARE FEET FOR EDUCATION OFFERINGS.

THERE IS A SITE AND THIS ONE IS MORE COMPLEX.

CALL IT THE OLD NORTH DALLAS HIGH SCHOOL.

THAT, THERE'S ACTUALLY 11 ACRES OF LAND IN THAT SPOT THAT INCLUDES THE EAST TERMINAL FOR D.A.R.T.

AND THE CONCEPT BEHIND THAT WAS TO PUSH THE D.A.R.T. TERMINAL UNDERGROUND AND ACTUALLY BUILDUP VERTICAL ON TOP OF IT TO CREATE A MAXIMUM TRANSPORTATION HUB IN THAT AREA.

THE LIGHT RAIL ALREADY STOPS IN FRONT OF THE NORTH DALLAS HIGH SCHOOL AND THE NEW D-2 LINE THAT WOULD BE BUILT WOULD BE ON EXACTLY THE OTHER SIDE.

IT WOULD HAVE MORE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION STOPS THAN ANY LOCATION IN THE AREA.

IN ADDITION, SHERATON OWNS 1,000-CAR PARKING GARAGE THAT'S NOT BEING USED AT THAT LOCATION.

>> IS THAT THE NORTH DALLAS SIDE OR KROGER TECH.

>> JOHN: SORRY, OLD DALLAS HIGH SCHOOL.

SORRY.

THE JACK MATTHEWS PROPERTY THAT HE ACQUIRED.

>> D. ZIMMERMANN: YEAH, YOU'RE RIGHT.

>> JOHN: SORRY ABOUT THAT.

THEN THE OHER IS THE FORMER DALLAS MORNING NEWS SITE.

THEY ACTUALLY HAVE THE DESIGN THAT THE ARCHITECTURE SUBMITTED FOR THAT FOR THEIR THAT, WOULD AGAIN HOUSE ALL OF THAT GOING ON.

I WANT TO MENTION THIS TO THE BOARD BECAUSE THERE'S A STRONG COMMUNITY DESIRE TO CONTINUE CONVERSATIONS BETWEEN ORGANIZATIONS AND INSTITUTIONS TO LOOK AT REALLY THE NEEDS IN DOWNTOWN.

THIS IS OBVIOUSLY UP TO THE BOARD AND WE HAVE BEEN CLEAR ON THAT, BUT I'VE BEEN INVITED TO MEET WITH THE SYSTEM PEOPLE AS WELL AS THE LEADERSHIP AT A & M COMMERCE, THEY WERE THE ONES MOST ACTIVELY.

I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW, THIS IS CONCEPTUAL, THIS IS NOT A PROPOSAL BUT SMETHING FOR US TO THINK ABOUT AS WE GO INTO THE FACILITIES OF THE FUTURE.

>> QUESTIONS?

>>

>> D. FLORES: HOW DID THE THREE LOCATIONS BECOME PUBLIC, I DIDN'T GET THAT?

>> JOHN: BECAUSE I JUST SHARED THEM.

[LAUGHTER] THERE WAS A NORTH DALLAS SIDE, THERE WAS ONE, THERE WERE ABOUT SEVEN SITES THAT WERE THERE INCLUDING THE FORMER REUNION TOWER SITE, ARENA SITE IN THAT WEST END OF DOWNTOWN.

BUT FOR OUR PURPOSES THESE SEEM TO MAKE THE MOST SENSE.

I DIDN'T INCLUDE THEM ALL, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE THE CONVERSATION IS NOW.

WHO OBVIOUSLY CARES A GREAT DEAL ABOUT THIS BEING IN THE PERIMETER OF THE CITY GOING FORWARD.

SO EVERYTHING WE TALKED ABOUT HAS BEEN WITHIN.

>> D. FLORES: WHEN WILL A FINAL RECOMMENDATION BE BROUGHT TO

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THE BOARD TO DISCUSS?

>> JOHN: IF WE ARE GOING TO GO WITH A BOND ELECTION IN MAY, SHOULD THE BOARD WANT TO DO THAT, IT HAS TO BE DONE BY FEBRUARY 14TH DEADLINE WE WOULD HAVE TO MEET IN ORDER TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

>> D. FLORES: I GUESS THAT'S A LOT OF DISCUSSION, FEBRUARY 5TH AND 6TH.

OKAY.

>> CHANCELLOR J. MAY: OTHER

[A. Finance Committee Notes for November 6, 2018]

QUESTIONS? DO YOU WANT A MINUTE TO ADDRESS THE COMMITTEE?

>> YOU HAVE THREE AUDITS.

THERE IS NO CONTENT CHANGE.

>> C. COMPTON: CAN YOU SPEAK A LITTLE LOUDER?

>> I'M SORRY.

>> WHICH DOCUMENT ARE YOU REFERRING TO?

>> JOHN: YOU ARE TALKING ON THE AUDIT COMMITTEE AGENDA.

>> IN THE FINANCE COMMITTEE AGENDA, YOU HAVE 3A AUDIT DOCUMENT.

>> D. FLORES: UNDER 3A I HAVE THE B.C.G.

>> CORRECT.

THAT SHOULD BE AN AUDIT.

WHICH YOU ALREADY HAVE.

IN OTHER WORDS, THEY WERE PRINTED TWICE.

THERE WERE TWO 3A AUDIT MIC] SHE WILL HAVE THEM FOR YOU IN A MINUTE.

THE PUBLISHED IS CORRECT.

BUT THOSE TWO TOGETHER

>> WE ARE MISSING FINANCE?

>> YES.

>> EVERYTHING PUBLISHED PUBLICLY IS CORRECT.

PUTTING YOUR NOTES TOGETHER, I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.

ANY QUESTIONS? THERE ARE NOTES I WILL HAVE THEM TO YOU IN THE NEXT FIVE MINUTES.

>> C. COMPTON: THIS LEGISLATIVE UPDATE, IS THIS DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WAS IN HERE?

>> IT SHOULD HAVE MINE OR CHANGES.

-- MINOR CHANGES.

IT WILL BE IN THE EDUCATION WORKFORCE COMMITTEE.

>> JOHN: THAT WOULD BE ITEM 2A.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.