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[1. Certification of Notice Posted for the Meeting]

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WE ARE GOING TO ADJOURN.

I WILL CERTIFY THE NOTICE FOR THIS MEETING WAS POSTED

[5. Executive Session (if required)]

ACCORDING TO 55105.

THANK YOU, SIR.

WE ARE GOING TO MOVE FAIRLY BRIEFLY INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR CONSULTATION WITH OUR ATTORNEY FOR LEGAL MATTERS, PERSONNEL MATTERS.

THAT IS WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO.

IS THAT ADEQUATE, SIR?

>> THAT'S ADEQUATE.

[A. Education Plan Presenters: John Robertson, Justin Lonon, Mary Brumbach]

WE HAVE ONE PRESENTATION TODAY ON THE MASTER PLAN.

JOHN?

>> THIS IS REALLY A FOLLOW-UP TO THE PRESENTATION I DID PREVIOUSLY WHERE I SHARED WITH THE BOARD OUR OVERALL PLAN OF HOW WE WOULD, AT THIS POINT, PROCEED AND DO AN EDUCATIONAL MASTER PLAN THAT WOULD THEN FEED OUR FACILITIES PLANS SO THE FINAL PLANS THAT WILL COME TOGETHER WILL BE BASED ON THAT AND THEN DRIVE OUR FY-20 BUDGET IN BUDGETS GOING FORWARD.

THE EDUCATIONAL PLAN TIED TO A CAPITAL PLAN, TIED TO TALENT AND PEOPLE AS WELL AS WE DO THAT IN OUR BUDGET.

THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF THE INTEGRATED APPROACH.

SO I WANTED TO LET THE BOARD KNOW WE ARE FOLLOWING UP ON THOSE.

THINGS ARE UNDER WAY.

I WILL SAY THIS IN THE SET UP.

TRUSTEE FLORES AND I SPOKE ABOUT THIS THE OTHER DAY.

WE ARE IN A TRANSITION PERIOD RIGHT NOW.

-- REALLY TRANSITIONING IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A FINANCE-LED EFFORT.

SHOULD THIS BE EDUCATION WORKFORCE OR FINANCE.

SINCE IT'S COMING OUT OF THAT, BUT NOW WE ARE GOING TO BE SHIFTING OVER AND HANDLING IT GOING FORWARD, IT'S THE EDUCATIONAL PIECE, EDUCATIONAL WORKFORCE BUT DRIVING THE ACTIVITIES.

BUT IT MADE SENSE TO GO HERE SINCE THIS IS WHERE IT ALL STARTED.

>> OKAY, MARY?

>> THIS FIRST SLIDE GIVES THE LIST OF PEOPLE ALREADY ENGAGED IN THE EDUCATION PLANNING TEAM.

WE WILL ADD ADDITIONAL AS THE WORK GOES FORWARD.

WE HAVE PROBABLY BEEN IN 20 HOURS OF MEETINGS AT THIS POINT, IF NOT MORE.

BUT WITH EACH WE CONTINUE TO BUILD ON CREATING A TRANSPARENT AND COLLABORATIVE APPROACH TO WHAT'S HAPPENING.

THIS IS PAGE 2.

>> WE ARE MISSING THAT PAGE.

I THINK YOU MAY NOT HAVE THE LATEST EDITION BUT WE WILL GET THAT TO YOU.

THIS IS THE EDUCATIONAL PLANNING.

AS YOU RECALL FROM OUR DISCUSSION AND DR. MAY JUST MENTIONED, THIS DRIVES EVERYTHING.

FROM FACILITIES TO PEOPLE TO BUDGET.

AGAIN WE ARE UNDER WAY IN A SIGNIFICANT WAY.

THE KEY INITIATIVES FOR THE STUDENT CENTRIC -- NETWORK, THIS IS ONE.

WE HAVE MULTIPLE INITIATIVES DEVELOPING SIMULTANEOUSLY AND THEY NEED TO BE INTEGRATED AND REALLY WORKING IN LOCK STEP WITH EACH OTHER.

JOHN, DO YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING TO THAT?

>> NO, THIS IS DR. MAY PRESENTED HIS PLAN TWO MONTHS AGO TO THIS BOARD.

THIS SLIDE IS DIRECTLY FROM

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THAT PLAN.

STILL FOLLOWING THE SAME PLAN HE PRESENTED TO THE BOARD TWO MONTHS AGO TALKING ABOUT THIS TRANSFORMATION MADE.

>> AGAIN, IMAGES YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH, BUT WE ARE STILL SUPPORTING THE NETWORK MODEL OF MOVING -- WE FOCUSED ON THIS EMPLOYERS AND COMMUNITIES AND SOLVING PROBLEMS IN PARTNERSHIPS, WITH ORGANIZATIONS AND OTHER PROVIDERS.

WITH THAT I WILL HAND IT OFF TO JUSTIN.

>> SO THIS NEXT SLIDE HERE REALLY LAYS OUT THE INITIAL PROCESS BY WHICH GUIDING THE WORK AND WILL GUIDE THE WORK.

EARLY STAGES AS MARY INDICATED OF TRYING TO BUILD THE TEAM.

BRING FOLKS TOGETHER THAT WE COULD BEGIN TO LAY OUT THE DETAILED TIME LINE AND COMMUNICATION PLAN IN THIS.

OBVIOUSLY THE COMMUNICATION ASPECT IS IMPORTANT TO THIS.

AND SO, AS WE WILL GET INTO MORE DETAIL HOW WE WILL INCLUDE OUR COMMUNICATIONS AND MARKETING TEAM AS HOW OWWE LOOK AT OUR DATA AND DO A SWAT ANALYSIS TO HELP GUIDE THIS WORK AND LOOK AT MARKET DATA AND LOOK AT THE OUT COMES THAT WE PRODUCE.

THEN PLAN THE PROGRAM FRAMEWORK, THE SELECTION CRITERIA AND THEN PUT TOGETHER THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT COME OUT OF THIS.

AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS WILL HAVE A COMMENT PERIOD SO WE CAN ENGAGE OUR INTERNAL AUDIENCE ALL ALONG THIS PROCESS BEFORE WE GET TO THE FINAL PLAN AND FRAMEWORK WE PRESENTED.

>> A TIME LINE ON THIS? WHERE ARE WE?

>> WE ARE DEVELOPING THAT RIGHT NOW.

ONE OF THE THINGS IS, WE ARE DOING ALMOST THREE THINGS, THREE OF THESE BARS AT THE SAME TIME.

WE, IN OUR R.F.P. ONE OF THE THINGS WE SAID WE ARE DATA RICH.

WE DON'T HAVE T HAVE SOMEBODY THAT GOES BACK OUT AND REINVENTS THE WHEEL FOR US.

WE HAVE A LOT OF L.M.I.

DISTRICT.

DATA.

WE HAVE PEOPLE HELPING US WITH THIS RIGHT NOW WITH ALL THOSE SOURCES OF DATA.

THEY ARE PUTTING IT TOGETHER.

WE JUST HAD A CALL YESTERDAY, MAYBE WE NEEDED THIS AND THAT.

SO WE ARE PULLING ALL THAT TOGETHER AND DOING ABOUT THREE OF THESE THINGS AT THE SAME TIME.

WE ARE TRYING TO GET WITHIN 60 DAYS, START TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A WHOLE FRAMEWORK OF WHAT WE ARE DOING AND BE ABLE TO DEVELOP A TIME LINE.

[INDISCERNIBLE] THE END OF THE YEAR.

THAT'S ALL THE CONTRACT IS [INDISCERNIBLE] FOR.

>> SO SOMETIME IN THE FOURTH QUARTER WE WOULD HAVE A FINAL PLAN?

>> WE WOULD HOPE TO SEE IT.

UPDATES ON THIS PROBABLY IN THE NEXT 3-4 MONTHS SO WE CAN BRING INFORMATION BACK TO THE BOARD ALONG WITH THAT TIME FRAME.

WE WON'T WAIT UNTIL WE ARE FINISHED.

SOME OF THE RESULTS OF THE DATA, AND WHERE OR PROGRAM GAPS AND OUR INDUSTRY GAPS ARE AND WHAT WE ARE STARTING TO CEASE BECAUSE IT'S ALL GOING TO HELP DRIVE WHAT WE ARE DOING IN THE CAPITAL PLAN AND WHAT THE BUDGET PLAN WILL BE.

THERE'S JUST A LOT OF DATA OUT THERE, WE ARE NOW ASSIMILATING TO THAT INFORMATION OF WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO.

MUCH LIKE WE DID WHEN BOSTON CONSULTANT.

>> I THINK IT WOULD BE BEFORE WE START DEVELOPING THE NEXT BUDGET?

>> THAT'S WHAT WE, THAT IS OUR HOPE.

THAT AND A COUPLE OTHER THINGS.

WE JUST GOT TO GET CRACKING ON AND GET THIS DONE.

WE CAN'T WAIT.

THEY WERE UNDERSTANDING OF THAT WHEN WE INTERVIEWED THAT WE WERE NOT GOING TO BE DRAGGING THIS OUT FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME.

NOR WERE THEY HERE TO GT THEIR OWN ROOM AND BOARD.

>> WE HAVE BEEN COMPILING THE TEAM TO REALLY HELP BUILD AND LEAD THIS, WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT A LOT ON THE FRONT END AND SO THE FREQUENCY WHICH WE DO THIS WORK TOGETHER OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS TO BEGIN TO INFORM HOW W DO THE BUDGET BUILDING INTO THE SPRING AND THEN AS JOHN SAID, THROUGHOUT THE SUMMER AND INTO THE FALL WE WILL HAVE A MORE COMPLETED COMPONENT AT THAT POINT.

WHICH GETS A LITTLE INTO THE NEXT STEPS I REFERENCED.

THE TIMING COMMUNICATIONS ASPECT OF THIS.

YOU KNOW, WHEN WE ARE UNDERTAKING THIS EFFORT, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A LOT OF INTEREST AND A LOT OF FOCUS THAT WE WANT TO HLP GUIDE FOLKS INTO.

ANSWER QUESTIONS AS WE CAN AND

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PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES FOR INPUT AND REACTION ALL ALONG THE WAY.

AND SO WE ARE GOING TO USE DIFFERENT TECHNIQUES AND TOOLS TO DO THAT AND AGAIN OUR MARKETING TEAM WILL DO THAT HOW WE DO THE MESSAGING AND HOW WE HAVE THIS INTERACTIVE WEB REFERENCING TOOL THAT CULD BE THAT FEEDBACK ARM, TAT INFORMATION AND FEEDBACK ARM.

>> WE HAVE ALREADY STARTED SCHEDULING MEETINGS WITH V.P.'S AND PRESIDENTS TO START KEEPING THEM IN THE LOOP OF WHAT WE ARE DOING BUT THERE'S ALSO A LOT OF, ONE OF THE REASONS WE LIKE THIS FIRM IS WHAT THEY HAVE DONE BEFORE IS WORKED A LOT WITH ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS AND THEY WENT OUT AND SET UP THOSE MEETINGS SO THEY CAN MAKE SURE THEY GET THE INPUT, HAVE PEOPLE ANSWER THE QUESTIONS, THEIR COMMUNICATIONS WAS JUST EXCELLENT.

>> WHEN YOU SAY STAKEHOLDERS IS THAT EXTERNAL OR ALSO INTERNAL?

>> IT COULD BE BOTH.

THE FIRST WE ARE LOOKING AT IS OTHER COMMUNITY COLLEGES.

WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT UNIVERSITIES AND OTHER FORMS OF EDUCATION BCAUSE WE ARE IN THE EDUCATION BUSINESS.

>> D. FLORES: YOU ARE SAYING YOU WORK WITH THE PRESIDENT AND VICE PRESIDENT AND IT'S UP TO THEM?

>> JOHN: WE WILL TAKE ADVICE FROM THE CONSULTANTS BUT WE REALLY GOT TO USE THE MARKETING DEPARTMENT TO HELP US WITH THOSE COMMUNICATIONS.

>> D. FLORES: OFTEN TIMES WHAT'S DISCUSSED HERE AND THE EXPECTATION, AT LEAST MINE, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT MY COLLEAGUES IS IT'S GOING TO GET COMMUNICATED DOWN TO DIFFERENT LEVELS AS DECISIONS ARE MADE AND THEN YOU COME BACK AND HEAR ALL SORTS OF DISTORTIONS O THE DECISIONS OR STRATEGIES OR INITIATIVE ETC., WHEN WILL WE GET TO THE POINT THE REAL DEAL IS COMMUNICATED THROUGHOUT THE ORGANIZATION?

>> JUSTIN: THAT'S PART OF WHY WE WILL BEGIN TO UTILIZE TECHNOLOGY AS WELL.

HAVE A SCATTERED SHOT APPROACH AS BEST WE CAN.

CERTAINLY WE WILL LOOK TO THE LEADERSHIP OF THE CAMPUSES TO HELP SPREAD THE WORD BUT ALSO USING TECHNOLOGY THROUGH THE WEB AND OTHER WAYS THAT WE CAN POINT AND GUIDE PEOPLE T THE MOST UP-TO-DATE RELEVANT INFORMATION.

>> THIS IS SOMETHING DONE WITH OTHER COMMUNITY COLLEGES AND THAT WEB-BASED COMMUNICATION TOOL.

ANY TIME ANYONE HAS QUESTIONS THEY CAN USUALLY FIND ANSWERS THERE AND IF NOT THEY AT LEAST KNOW WHO TO TALK TO.

>> D. FLORES: THANK YOU.

>> JUSTIN: I REFERENCED THE MARKET ANALYSIS EARLIER, WE WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHERE THE NEEDS ARE WITHIN SPECIFIC INDUSTRIES AND TRY TO ALIGN THAT DEMAND WITH THE GEOGRAPHY OF OUR COLLEGES AND WHAT THEIR OFFERINGS ARE.

WE WILL COMPLETE THIS PROGRAM DEMAND ANALYSIS FOR EACH OF THE COLLEGES TO IDENTIFY HOW TO ALIGN THOSE TWO THINGS.

THESE ARE THE GENERAL PARAMETERS WHICH WE WERE DOING THIS WORK THAT IT WILL BE RESEARCH-BASED.

WE WILL HAVE THE DATA, THE DETAILS AND TALK ABOUT OPTIONS AND THE SOURCES RELEVANT TO IT AND AGAIN ANALYZE THIS DATA.

WE TALK A LOT ABOUT THE COLLABORATIVE NATURE WE WILL DO THE ENGAGING STAKEHOLDERS.

JOHN IS KEEPING US FOCUSED ON THE FISCAL ASPECT OF THIS, AND WHAT THE FISCAL CONSTRAINTS MAY BE.

AND THEN AS MUCH AS ANYTHING TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS WORK IS GUIDED BY OUR STUDENT-CENTRIC NETWORK WE TALKED ABOUT SO MUCH AND HOW TO ALIGN EVERYTHING ELSE FROM THERE WITH THE STUDENT AT THE CENTER.

>> D. FLORES: WHAT IS O.B.F.

>> JOHN: OUTCOME BASED FUNDING.

>> D. ZIMMERMANN: WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT COLLABORATIVE, CORE GROUP IS?

>> THE TEAM.

>> D. ZIMMERMANN: THE LIST WE DIDN'T GET.

>> ARE YOU GOING TO PUT TOGETHER A DASHBOARD OF SORTS, SINCE YOU'VE GOT THREE SIMULTANEOUS INITIATIVES AT THE SAME LEVEL, SOME WAY WE COULD GET A HOLD OF LOOKING AT HOW THINGS ARE MOVING ALONG IN DIFFERENT ASPECTS?

>> THAT'S BEN DISCUSSED AS A GOAL TO HAVE FOR THIS AS IT HAS WITH THE LEARNING MATERIALS INITIATIVE AND SOME OTHER THINGS.

I WILL HAVE TO ADMIT WE AREN'T REAL GOOD AT THAT AND IT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO GET REAL GOOD AT.

IT'S BEEN IDENTIFIED WE NEED TO HAVE THAT WEB BASE THAT SAYS

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PEOPLE CAN LOOK AT ANY TIME AND SEE WHERE WE ARE IN THIS PROCESS AND WHAT INFORMATION IS UP THERE BESIDES JUST F.A.Q.

TYPE THINGS.

THE PROGRESS WE ARE MAKING, WHAT ARE THE UPCOMING MEETINGS AND WHEN ARE WE GOING TO BE HOLDING THINGS IN VARIOUS PLACES SO IT'S WELL-TAKEN.

>> JUSTIN: THIS NEXT SLIDE STARTS TO GET MORE FOCUSED IN DETAIL HOW OUR PROGRAMS. HERE ARE SOME DIFFERENT CATEGORIES WHICH WE ARE THINKING ABOUT THESE.

FOCUS PROGRAMS THAT MAY BE EXCLUSIVE TO EACH LOCATION WITH LITTLE OVERLAP.

MAYBE GENERAL EDUCATION COURSES THAT MAY BE CUSTOMIZED FOR EACH CAMPUS.

THE SIGNATURE PROGRAMS WE HAVE TALKED A GREAT DEAL ABOUT AMONGST THE LEADERSHIP TEAM SO THESE ARE THOSE HIGHLY SPECIALIZED PROGRAMS THAT ARE RECOGNIZED AS THE LEADER IN THAT PROGRAM AND, YOU KNOW, STATE-OF-THE-ART FACILITIES, S AS WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THOSE BEFORE, TO HELP US IDENTIFY THOSE THINGS AND THEN AS WE LOOK AT TE GEOGRAPHY OF DALLAS COUNTY, HOW DO WE ALIGN THOSE SIGNATURE PROGRAMS I A WAY THAT COLLEGE THAT IS SPECIALIZING IN THAT AREA CAN OFFER THAT IN OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTY AND OTHER LOCATIONS CAN SUPPORT THAT.

>> D. ZIMMERMANN: HOW DOES THIS ADDRESS SWIRL?

>> JUSTIN: SWIRL, THERE MAY BE MANY REASONS STUDENTS ATTEND MULTIPLE LOCATIONS.

AND TALKED A LITTLE ABOUT SOME OF THE ELEMENTS OF THAT CERTAINLY MAY BE DRIVEN BY SCHEDULE AD WE TALKED SOME PREVIOUSLY ABOUT LOOKING AT MORE OF A SIMPLIZED SCHEDULING SYSTEM TO HELP ADDRESS THAT.

BUT YOU KNOW, FOR SOME STUDENTS, CLEARLY, YOU KNOW, THEY MAY GO TO THE CLOSEST LOCATION TO THEM TO HOME OR WORK AND WE BEGIN TO ALIGN PROGRAMS IN A WAY THAT WILL MORE CLEARLY HELP DEFINE THAT FOR THEM.

SO IF YOU ARE A STUDENT THAT'S INTERESTED IN CULINARY, FOR INSTANCE, AND YOU LIVE IN THE NORTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY, WHAT ARE WE DOING TO ALIGN I A WAY THAT MAKES SENSE FOR THAT STUDENT, YOU HAVE HEARD DOCTOR CHESNEY AND DR. [INDISCERNIBLE] TALK BEFORE HOW THEY ARE ALIGNING BROOKHAVEN AND EL CENTRO WITH CULINARY.

IDENTIFYING THE SIGNATURE PROGRAMS IN A MORE SPECIFIC, SPECIALIZED WAY, MAY HELP WITH THAT SWIRL COMPONENT.

>> JOHN: BEING MORE INTENTIONAL, LET'S USE CULINARY.

IT'S POSSIBLE THE STUDENT WOULD WANT TO TAKE SOME GENERAL EDUCATION OR SOME OTHER COURSES CLOSER TO WHERE THEY LIVE IF THAT'S HELPED THEM ON THEIR SCHEDULE.

SO THAT IS REALLY DONE NOT WHERE THEY ARE INVENTING IT BUT DESIGNED IT IN A WAY THAT STAYS AT THAT CAMPUS AND ATTEND EL CENTRO [INDISCERNIBLE]

>> CAN YOU GIVE US A FEW EXAMPLES OF PROGRAMS UNDER EACH OF THESE AREAS? ONES WE HAVE SEEN?

>> JUSTIN: SURE, CULINARY IS ONE WE TALKED ABOUT.

CONSTRUCTION IS ANOTHER WE TALKED ABOUT WITH NORTH LAKE.

DISTRIBUTED THAT CHANCELLOR MAY WAS REFERENCING SOME OF THOSE MAY BE BROADER.

AND FOCUSED HEAVILY WITHIN THE CAREER AND TECHNICAL PROGRAMS A LITTLE BIT.

SO WE HAVE SOME AUTO BODY, AUTO COLLISION AT SOME DIFFERENT LOCATIONS THAT MAY FIT INTO THAT CATEGORY.

>> MARY: ALSO THINGS LIKE BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION AVAILABLE ACROSS THE SYSTEM BUT MAYBE I.T. PROGRAM LIKE CYBER SECURITY MAY BE LOCATED IN A DIFFERENT PLACE BECAUSE OF TE SPECIFICITY NEEDED.

>> JOHN: YOU WILL COME ACROSS EXAMPLES IN THE WORKFORCE COMMITTEE WITH LABOR MARKET THOSE PROGRAMS KIND OF BREAK OUT, WERE DIFFERENT FOCUS AREAS ONE COLLEGE AS OPPOSED TO ANOTHER.

>> D. FLORES: WE SURVEYED THE SWIRL STUDENTS TO GET SOME DEFINITE ANSWERS AS TO WHY THEY DECIDE TO TAKE COURSES AT SEVERAL OF THE COLLEGES?

>> JOHN: WE KNOW A LOT ABOUT THEM.

THE TRUTH IS, THEY ARE HIGHLY MOTIVATED STUDENTS.

THEY ARE REALLY WORKING HARD TO FINISH ON AN ACCELERATED PATH SO THEY ARE CARTING THEIR OWN COURSE THROUGH THERE.

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IT'S A SCHEDULING ISSUE PREVENTING THEM FROM COMPLETING A DEGREE IN A TIMELY FASHION.

SOME OF IT GETS AT, I GUESS BY JUST OUR STRUCTURE WITH OWN COURSES BECAUSE WE KIND OF RANDOMLY ASSIGN, SOME OF THOSE WERE ONLINE IN THE PROCESS.

>> MARY: ABOUT 40% OF THEM.

>> SO AN ONLINE COURSE IS REALLY KIND OF IRRELEVANT.

WHERE IT IS, SWIRL.

>> JOHN: YEAH, EXCEPT A LOT OF STUDENTS ARE TAKING THE ONLINE BECAUSE THEY CAN'T GET SOMETHING THEY WANT WITH [INDISCERNIBLE] TIME.

THERE ARE A LOT WHO PREFER ONLINE BUT THEY AREN'T THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE TAKING ONLINE.

YOU WILL SEE REFERENCES TO THIS SLIDE ALSO IN THE FUTURE AS WE GO THROUGH THIS.

THIS IS REALLY KIND OF A HALLMARK OF WHAT WE ARE DOING AS WE TRY TO PUT THESE TOGETHER WHAT WORKS WHERE.

REMEMBER THIS SLIDE, WE WILL BE LOOKING.

>> THERE'S ONE MORE DETAIL WITH THE SIGNATURE PIECE AND I REFERENCED SOME OF THIS.

THIS IS A LOT OF COLLABORATION AND FOCUS FROM INDUSTRY PARTNERS, REALLY RESPONDING TO WHAT INDUSTRY NEEDS ARE AND USING CULINARY AS OUR PRIME EXAMPLE.

THERE'S A HIGH LEVEL OF ENGAGEMENT WITHIN THE COMMUNITY AND SO THAT'S THE SORT OF ENGAGEMENT WE WILL LOOK TO WITHIN EACH OF THESE SIGNATURE PROGRAMS AND LOOK TO HOW WE LEVERAGE OUR RESOURCES WTH GREAT EFFICIENCIES AND HELP ALIGN CURRICULUM AMONGST THESE SIGNATURE PROGRAMS AND THEN AGAIN CONSTANTLY LOOKING AND ANALYZING THE WORKFORCE DATA AS WE KEEP THE FOCUS WITHIN THOSE PROGRAMS.

>> IS IT FAIR, I'M THINKING ABOUT THE 2 PLUS 2 STUDENTS WO TRANSFER TO UPPER DIVISION, IS THEIR CLASS WORK AND COURSE WORK DISTRIBUTED? SEEMS IT'S TED TO IMMEDIATE EMPLOYMENT PROSPECTS FOR GRADUATION.

BUT WE AREN'T GETTING TO THE EDUCATIONAL PLAN AND HOW WE ARE GOING TO [INDISCERNIBLE]

>> NO.

>> THERE WILL BE EXCEPTIONS WHERE A FEW ARE FOCUSED MORE, BACK TO MARY'S EXAMPLE IN BUSINESS, OR I.T., SOMETHING FOCUSED ON CYBER SECURITY ONLY THAT TRANSFERS TO A FOUR-YEAR INSTITUTION.

OR AS I'M TRYING TO FIND OUT, ALL THE MASTERS PROGRAMS IN BUSINESS ANALYTICS.

FINANCE MAJOR.

IF I WAS GOING THROUGH MASTERS AGAIN RIGHT NOW I WOULD GO INTO BUSINESS ANALYTICS BECAUSE IT WAS THE TOP JOB RESEARCHED ON LINKEDIN.

IT'S A HYBRID OF A FINANCE PERSON AND TECH --

>> DISTRIBUTE IN MANY WAYS IS THE GENERAL EDUCATION THAT SUPPORTS THE REST OF THEM.

EVEN IN OUR STATE TE. PROGRAMS THERE'S A DEFINITE NEED FOR A BEGINNING LAYER OF COLLEGE WORK BEFORE THEY BEGIN SPECIALIZED.

SO THOSE WOULD BE WIDELY AVAILABLE.

AS THEY ARE NOW.

>> JOHN: SOME OF THE THINGS THE EDUCATIONAL OUT COMES WILL HELP IS HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF ALLOCATION.

FUTURE PROGRAM, DEVELOP, IT WILL ALL FOLLOW THE NETWORK MODEL.

IT WILL HELP US IN GROWTH, AND ALIGNMENT OF TALENT WITH STRATEGIC PRIORITIES AND COORDINATED STUDENT SUCCESS INITIATIVES THAT WE HAVE.

>> D. FLORES: YOU NEED A CAPITAL TON THE FIFTH ITEM TO BE CONSISTENT.

>> JOHN: WE SURE DO.

NOW WE TALKED ABOUT THIS.

THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE A ONE-TIME WE'RE DONE AND WE ARE FINISHED.

THIS WILL HELP US BUILD THE FRAMEWORK FOR WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO ANNUALLY.

AND ALWAYS START WITH THE EDUCATIONAL PLAN DRIVING THE FACILITY PLAN, THE PEOPLE PLAN AND OUR BUDGET PLAN.

AND I HOPE THAT THIS WILL GO THROUGH TENUOUS IMPROVEMENT PROCESS THAT WE WILL BUILD UPON THIS EACH YEAR THAT WE FIND BETTER AND BTTER WAYS OF WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO.

BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO MEAN THAT WE DON'T GO THROUGH.

AND IT DOESN'T MEAN THIS IS ALL SITTING BY ITSELF.

THIS INTERFACES WITH ALL THESE OTHER INITIATIVES WE ARE TALKING ABOUT DOING.

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THIS IMPACTS ROOM UTILIZATION, THIS IMPACTS SCHEDULING.

THIS IMPACTS WHAT WE WILL LOOK AT BUILDING AND WHAT WE NEED TO DO AS WE LOOK THROUGH THOSE.

SO THERE'S ALL THESE PIECES.

EDUCATIONAL PIECE IS JUST ONE OF THEM.

WE ARE DEDICATED TO THE IDEA OF HAVING THIS EDUCATIONAL PLAN START THE PROCESS.

BECAUSE [INDISCERNIBLE] YES?

>> WHAT YOU ARE DESCRIBING IS A HEAVILY DATA-DRIVEN PLANNING PROCESS TO MOVE THE HIGHER LEVELS OF STUDENT SUCCESS.

IS THERE A MEANS IN THIS PROCESS WHEREBY WE COLLECT INFORMATION AND GET INPUT DIRECTLY FROM STUDENTS AS OPPOSED TO RELYING ON THIRD PARTY DATABASES OR RESOURCES.

ARE WE GOING TO ASK THE STUDENTS, ANY PART OF THIS PROCESS WHAT WILL MAKE THEM SUCCESSFUL OR WHAT THEY WANT.

>> I'M NOTORIOUS FOR ASKING NOT SO MUCH WHAT OUR STUDENTS WANT.

BUT THE STUDENTS WE DON'T GET, WHAT DO THEY WANT, OR WHY DO WE NOT GET THEM.

IT'S ASKING STUDENTS THAT WE HAVE, BUT ALSO TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHO ARE THOSE PEOPLE WE AREN'T SERVING AND WHAT ARE THOSE REASONS WE AREN'T SERVING THEM.

A LOT OF DATA HAS TO BE GOTTEN IN, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT, BOSTON CONSULTING TALKED ABOUT IS ROOM SCHEDULING, OR CORE SCHEDULING BASED ON STUDENT DEMAND.

THAT'S A STUDENT-CENTRIC NETWORK PLAN, AS OPPOSED TO, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T COME UP WITH AN EDUCATIONAL PLAN AND DO IT IN ISOLATION.

YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE ALL THESE OTHER PIECES HELP DRIVE THE INFORMATION.

THAT'S A LOT OF THE DTA WE ARE GETTING RIGHT NOW.

BUT AS TO KNOWING DO WE HAVE A GREAT DATABASE OF STUDENTS WHAT THEY WANT TO DO, IT'S FIGURING OUT WHAT ARE THOSE PLACES STUDENTS GOING IN THE FUTURE AND HOW ARE WE ADVISING THEM?

>> I THINK SOMETHING WE WILL BE LOOKING AT AS WELL WITH OUR SCHEDULING SOFTWARE IS HOPEFULLY GETTING SOMETHING STUDENT FACING, LIKE WITH AN AIRLINE RESERVATION, YOU WOULD SAY WHAT DAY CAN I DO THIS, WHAT TIME OF DAY, WHEN DO I WANT TO COME BACK.

SO THE SAME THING, BEGINNING TO ASK STUDENTS, WHAT ARE YOU REALLY LOOKING FOR? WHAT TIMES WORK WITH YOUR SCHEDULE.

IT WILL TAKE A FEW YEARS TO BUILD THE DATA SET TO REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON BUT THAT'S THE INTENT.

>> D. FLORES: SO THAT'S FOR FUTURE, 3-4 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD?

>> WE WILL START RIGHT AWAY BUT IT TAKES YEARS TO GET --

>> JUSTIN: STUDENT EXPERIENCE STUDENT DR. BRUMBACH HELPED LEAD A FEW YEARS AGO.

BUT YOUR QUESTION, THAT'S PART OF THE CONVERSATION WITH THE CONSULTANT, AS THEY HAVE DONE THIS WITH OTHER COLLEGES, HOW THEY HAVE DONE THAT ENGAGEMENT PIECE TO HELP SOLICIT THE INFORMATION.

>> IF YOU CAN COME ON OVER.

>> WE WILL BE BINGING, HOPEFULLY IN DECEMBER AN APPROVAL FOR CONTRACT WITH THE EDUCATION ADVISORY BOARD, GUIDED PATHWAYS PROJECT SOFTWARE OF WHICH THE PLANNING AND THE DEGREE AUDIT AND THE DEGREE ASSISTANCE IS THERE AND IT'S THE SAME TYPE OF FUNCTIONALITY DR. MAY DESCRIBED, A STUDENT WILL BE ABLE TO PUT IN THEIR WORK SCHEDULE, THEIR LOCATION AND THE SYSTEM WILL HELP THEM FIND THE CORRECT SEQUENCE OF COURSES THAT WILL GET THEM TO THEIR DEGREE QUICKER.

RIGHT NOW WE GIVE AN OPEN BOOK, HERE ARE 20,000 SECTIONS TAKE YOUR PICK.

WE WILL BE USING DATA TO DRIVE THEIR SELECTION AND THROUGH THAT, ON THE BACK END COLLECT THE INFORMATION, SURVEY THEM, WE WILL WATCH THE PREFERENCES FOR THE SOFTWARE.

>> IF

>> CHAIR D. FLORES: GET TO A POWERPOINT COURSE FAIRLY EASILY.

>> BY THEN THERE WON'T BE POWERPOINT, THERE WILL BE SOMETHING ELSE.

[LAUGHTER]

>> THERE A LOT OF DIFFERENT TOUCH POINTS TO GET TOGETHER STUDENT INFORMATION IN THIS WHOLE NETWORK FROM THE EMPLOYMENT CALCULATOR, THE INCOME CALCULATOR TO NAVIGATOR.

THERE'S A LOT OF PLACES TO FIND THAT.

SO ALL THAT IS BEING PULLED INTO THE DATABASE TO LOOK AT.

>> RIGHT NOW WE ARE MANUALLY WORKING WHAT WE REFER TO AS STRUCTURED DATA, DATA ENTERED INTO A SYSTEM BUT IT'S ALSO A GOAL AT SOME POINT IN THE PRETTY IMMEDIATE FUTURE TO ANALYZE UNSTRUCTURED TO SEE TEXT, EMAILS, OTHER CORRESPONDENTS BACK AND FORTH AND DRAW PATTERNS FROM THAT.

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>> D. FLORES: HOW ARE WE GOING

[A. Policy Item - First Reading: Amendment to Policy Concerning Tuition Waivers - FD (LOCAL) Tuition and Fees]

TO GET

>> JUSTIN: IN EMAIL [INDISCERNIBLE]

>> JOHN, DO YOU WANT TO DISCUSS POLICY CONCERNING TUITION WAIVERS?

>> JOHN: YEAH, LET'S DO THAT AND LET'S HAVE -- COME UP WITH THAT.

TRUSTEE BRAVO, A COUPLE MONTHS AGO YOU REACHED OUT TO ME ABOUT A CONCERN BROUGHT TO YOUR ATTENTION ABOUT A STUDENT IN THIS CASE A STUDENT WHO ATTENDED SCHOOL BUT WASN'T LIVING - I WASN'T AWARE, NO ONE BROUGHT THAT SITUATION TO MY ATTENTION.

TURNS OUT THERE ARE ABOUT 253 STUDENTS THIS YEAR, I GUESS PRECISELY 253 STUDENTS THAT [LAUGHTER] ARE IN THAT SITUATION.

WITH ONE OF OUR 31 HIGH SCHOOLS.

THAT INCLUDED 9600, THIS YEAR WITH 42 HIGH SCHOOLS, IT'S 16,000 ELIGIBLE SENIORS.

AS WE SEE THAT GOING UP, I REALIZE WE HAVE A PROBLEM.

WE ARE TELLING THE STUDENTS THEY CAN ATTEND, THEY HAVE A FREE PATHWAY TO COLLEGE BECAUSE THEY ARE WITH THE HIGH SCHOOL BUT AS YOU ARE PROBABLY AWARE, OUR SCHOOL DSTRICTS DON'T FOLLOW COUNTY OR CITY BOUNDARIES IN MANY CASES, THEY GO TO WHERE EVER, HOWEVER THEY WERE SET UP.

SO THAT IT'S NOT ONLY POSSIBLE BUT IT HAPPENS THAT YOU CAN BE A GRANDE PRAIRIE HIGH SCHOOL STUDENT AND LIVE IN TARYN COUNTY.

AND ROCK WELL OR COLLIN OR OTHERS.

WE REALIZED WE ARE PROMISING ONE THING BUT DELIVERING SOMETHING ELSE AS WE DO THAT.

SO I ASKED NOT ONLY WE TRACK DOWN THE INDIVIDUAL THERE BUT WE LOOK AT HOW DO WE DO SOMETHING.

RIGHT NOW WE DO THROUGH CONTRACTS.

WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH -- SCHOOL DISTRICT THAT SAYS ANY OF THEIR FOLKS CAN ATTEND AT -- RATES BECAUSE WE HANDLE THEM.

BECAUSE OF THE SIZE RATHER THAN HANDLE EACH ONE SEPARATELY AND REQUIRE COLLEGES TO KEEP TRACK OF 16-18 CONTRACTS IT WOULD BE BETTER TO DEAL WITH THIS FROM A POLICY PERSPECTIVE.

SO THAT'S KIND OF THE BACKGROUND ON IT, SO WE, BUT IT ALSO HAS FINANCIAL IMPLICATIONS FOR THE FOUNDATION.

IF WE ARE CHARGING THE DISTRICT WE ARE MAKING UP THE COST OF THAT, WE ARE FILLING IN ANY GAPS IN THE PROCESS.

IT ACTUALLY MEANS IT COSTS US MORE FROM THE FOUNDATION POINT OF VIEW.

IF WE DON'T NEED TO USE THE LAST DOLLAR IT JUST MEANS STUDENTS HAVE LESS MONEY FOR OTHER THINGS THEY ARE TRYING TO TAKE CARE OF.

THAT'S KND OF THE BACKGROUND.

SO THANKS FOR POINTING OUT THE CONCERN.

>> WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE POLICY.

THE CHANCELLOR SUMMARIZED THE SITUATION, THE UNINTENDED GAP WE NEEDED TO ADDRESS IN TERMS OF THESE PROMISE STUDENTS THAT MIGHT PHYSICALLY RESIDE OUTSIDE DALLAS COUNTY BEING COMPELLED TO PAY OUT OF COUNTY TUITION.

IT'S CERTAINLY NOT THE INTENTION OF THE PROMISE PROGRAM.

WE LOOKED AT THE EDUCATION CODE, IT PROVIDES THAT THE GOVERNING BODY, THAT THE BOARD CAN APPROVE INKIND TUITION FOR RESIDENTS RESIDING OUTSIDE OF THE COUNTY WHO HAPPEN TO BE IN A COUNTY THAT IS CONTIGUOUS.

THAT POVISION WORKED NICELY WITH WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH HERE.

TO THE CHANCELLOR'S POINT IN THE PAST, HAVE IN EXISTENCE CONTRACTS WITH SCHOOL DISTRICTS WE HAVE A CONTRACT FOR DUAL CREDIT OR OTHER PURPOSES.

GIVEN THE GROWTH AND NETWORK AND INTENTION PROMISE NETWORK WHICH IS TO BE AS INCLUSIVE AS POSSIBLE, WE THOUGHT A BETTER SOLUTION WOULD BE AN AMENDMENT THAT WOULD ALOW FOR THOSE STUDENTS TO RESIDE OUTSIDE DALLAS COUNTY BUT IN A CONTIGUOUS, PROVIDED THEY ARE PROMISE STUDENTS.

>> IT COULD BE DIFFERENT PARTNERSHIPS BUT IT WOULD BE A SCHOOL WE HAVE A SPECIFIC RELATIONSHIP WITH GOING FORWARD.

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SO IN THIS CASE, THIS WOULD APPLY, OF THE 107 SCHOOLS THIS YEAR IT WOULD APPLY TO 43.

>> D. FLORES: 107 HIGH SCHOOLS?

>> 107 HIGH SCHOOLS.

>> CHAIR D. FLORES: THE COLOR OF THIS WAS MESSED UP IN THE PDF VERSION BECAUSE IT'S IN RED.

>> THE LANGUAGE IN RED ON YOUR COPY IS THE LANGUAGE IN BLUE ON OUR COPY.

I WILL DEFER TO TRISHA.

>>

>> TRUSTEE JAMESON?

>> W. JAMESON: IS THERE A CHANCE A NON CONTIGUOUS STUDENT COULD TRANSFER TO A CONTIGUOUS OR NOT PARTICIPATE IN THE PROMISE?

>> YOU WOULD HAVE ENROLLMENT CONSIDERATIONS FOR NOT ONLY THE CONTIGUOUS SCHOOL DISTRICT BUT ALSO, SO THAT MIGHT BE A BARRIER TO THEM ATTEMPTING.

>> YEAH, THERE'S A STATUTE ON THIS RELATED TO PURE DUAL CREDIT RELATIONSHIPS THAT USED TO BE IT WAS BOUND BY YOUR SERVICE DISTRICT, THAT WAS ELIMINATED FOR SOME DISTRICTS.

WHICH WOULD ALLOW YU TO ESSENTIALLY SKIP, YOU COULD GO ANYWHERE.

>> W AREN'T RELYING ON THAT PROVISION.

>> TOUGH QUESTIONS.

YOU REFERENCE TESE CONTRACTS WE HAVE IN PLACE WITH SCHOOL DISTRICTS TO EDUCATE THROUGH THE DALLAS COUNTY PROMISE PROGRAM STUDENTS WHO DON'T LIVE IN DALLAS COUNTY?

>> NOT THE PROMISE PROGRAM, FOR DUAL CREDIT.

ANY KIND OF EDUCATIONAL SERVICE.

>> DO WE GET CONSIDERATION, DOES THE DSTRICT RECEIVE MONEY? [INDISCERNIBLE] I TAKE IT THE POLICY APPROACH IS THE CONCERN HERE?

>> WHAT WE DO IN THOSE CASES IS WE CHARGE IN-DISTRICT RATE BECAUSE OF THE RELATIONSHIP OF THE PARTNERSHIP IN THAT SITUATION.

SO WE DO COLLECT TUITION FROM THEM.

WE DO COLLECT STATE FUNDING AS WELL.

FRANKLY, YOU KOW, I MEAN, IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE PURSUE AGGRESSIVELY THAT'S OUT THERE BUT WHEN SOMEONE CAN'T FIND A PROVIDER TO HELP THEM OUT WITH THAT, WE HAVE BEEN WILLING TO DO THAT BUT WE HAVE ALSO WORKED WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TO TRY TO PROVIDE OTHER TYPE OF PROVIDERS TO MEET THE NEEDS.

>> IT'S ALWAYS A PHILOSOPHICAL ISSUE.

THE PARTNERSHIPS [INDISCERNIBLE] I.S.D. DESIGNED TO ADDRESS THE SITUATION, YOU HAVE A STUDENT WHO RESIDES OUTSIDE DALLAS COUNTY, THEREFORE NOT A TAX PAYER IN THIS DISTRICT.

PARTICIPATING IN THIS PROGRAM BEING UNDERWRITTEN BY THE TAX PAYERS OF DALLAS COUNTY.

DO WE WANT TO -- IT'S LIKE PARKLAND.

THE DALLAS COUNTY TAX PAYERS PAY FOR PARKLAND BUT IT'S BECOME A REGIONAL ASSET AND RESOURCE FOR THE REGION THAT HAS DALLAS COUNTY TAX PAYERS SUBSIDIZING PEOPLE OUTSIDE DALLAS COUNTY.

ARE WE INVITING OURSELVES INTO THAT, YES THIS IS A MUCH SMALLER THING, WE ARE TRYING TO SOLVE A BIG PROBLEM WITH THE DALLAS POMISE AND DOING WELL BUT I HAVE TO ASK THAT PHILOSOPHICAL QUESTION.

SHOULD WE DO THAT OR SEEK RECIPROCITY OR REIMBURSEMENT FROM THE DISTRICTS WHOSE COSTS OF EDUCATION, WE ARE TAKING ON AND THE DALLAS COUNTY TAX PAYERS ARE TAKING ON.

>> D. FLORES: WE STILL GET CONTRACT OUT REIMBURSEMENT.

>> THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS ARE PUTTING CONSIDERABLE RESOURCES AS WELL.

THEY ARE USING THEIR TAX DOLLARS TO DO THIS.

WE ARE A RELATIVELY SMALL INVESTMENT.

IN THESE EFFORTS.

BUT ONE, THE PROMISE WAS MEANT TO CREATE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL.

IF WE SAY YOU ARE ELIGIBLE, BUT YOU ARE NOT, IT MAKES IT VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR US TO RUN THE PROGRAM AS DESIGNED.

WHILE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IN THEIR RECORDS MAY KNOW, I DON'T

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THINK PRINCIPALS OR TEACHERS OR ADVISORS KNOW THEY LIVE WITHIN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

THEY DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW THIS SPECIFIC ADDRESS MAY BE ONE BLOCK OUT.

>> DON'T THEY HAVE TO FOR ATTENDANCE ZONE ASSIGNMENT?

>>

>> M. BRAVO: BUT THEY AREN'T LIVING IN THEIR SCHOOL DISTRICT, RIGHT?

>> THOSE FAMILIES AREN'T PAYING TAXES THROUGH THE DALLAS COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT.

>> D. FLORES: WHERE THE BOUNDARY IS DRAWN, IT MAY BE A LITTLE FINGER OF TERENCE OR COLIN.

IS IT THE STUDENT'S FAULT THE BOUNDARY IS DRAWN THAT WAY AND ATTENDING A SCHOOL IN DALLAS COUNTY LINES BUT RESIDE A LITTLE OUTSIDE THE DALLAS COUNTY BORDER.

IS IT THEIR FAULT THE DISTRICT FOUNDRY WAS DESIGND THAT WAY SO WE ARE OFFERING IT TO EVERY OTHER STUDENT.

SO WHY ARE WE BEING PUNITIVE TOWARD A STUDENT WHEN I'S NOT THEIR FAULT HOW THAT SCHOOL DISTRICT BOUNDARY WAS DRAWN.

>> D. ZIMMERMANN: I DON'T THINK IT GOES TO FAULT.

IT'S NOBODY'S FAULT.

BUT IF THEY AREN'T PAYING TAXES INTO DALLAS COUNTY, --

>> CHAIR D. FLORES: THEY ARE PAYING TAXES IF THEY ARE COMMUTING AND COMING INTO THE COUNTY AD FILLING UP THEIR GAS.

>> D. ZIMMERMANN: BUT THE SAME TAXES --

>> CHAIR D. FORES: BUYING GROCERIES AND GOING TO THE DRUGSTORE.

NOBODY GETS AWAY WITHOUT PAYING TAXES.

THERE'S PROPERTY TAXES.

>> D. ZIMMERMANN: BUT PROPERTY TAXES IS WHERE WE GET THE AD VALOREM.

>> ISN'T THAT ULTIMATELY THE FOUNDATION COVERING THIS COST.

PRIVATE MONEY AND NOT TAX PAYERS.

>> IT'S NOT REALLY AD VALOREM TAXES COVERING IT.

IT'S A GAP.

I SHOULD KEEP MY MOUTH SHUT IT'S NOT REALLY A LEGAL QUESTION BUT A BUSINESS QUESTION WHAT THE BOARD WANTS TO DO.

THIS IS A STATUTE, A PROVISION THAT'S REALLY VERY OPPORTUNITY ORIENTED I WOULD SUBMIT WHERE THE LEGISLATURE SAID WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR SOMEBODY WHO MIGHT NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO LIVE WITHIN A DISTRICT COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICT WHO MAY WANT TO AVAIL THEMSELVES AND THEY MAY WANT TO EXTEND BY PAYING AN IN-COUNTY RATE.

>> THERE'S A PNITIVE REASON FOR THAT.

BECAUSE MOST OF THE DISTRICTS IN THE STATE OPERATE WITH ONLY A SMALL PORTION OF THEIR DISTRICT BEING TAXED.

SO YOU TAKE PARIS COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICT NEXT DOOR.

IT'S ONLY THE CITY, NOT THE INDUSTRIAL PARK OR ANYTHING ELSE, SO EVERYBODY ELSE COMES IN.

IN A WAY WE ARE AN ANOMALY THAT DALLAS COUNTY IS COVERED.

THAT'S NOT THE CASE IN MOST OTHER AREAS OF THE STATE.

IT'S MUCH MORE COMMON WHICH THERE'S BEEN SEVERAL PIECES OF LEGISLATION PASSED REQUIRING THAT TO OCCUR WITH LYNNE COLLEGE, WITH WEATHERFORD AND SOME OTHERS THAT ARE OUT THERE.

I THINK THE GOAL IS TO CREATE ACCESS NOT CREATE BARRIERS.

>> THE WAIVER WILL BE AVAILABLE IF THE PERSON RESIDES IN THE TAXING DISTRICT CONTINUOUS TO THE COLLEGE DISTRICT.

THAT'S ALL TERENCE, DENTON COUNTY, ROCK WELL, ELLIS COUNTY.

>> LET ME ASK YOU THIS THOUGH.

TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM, NARROWLY, WOULDN'T IT BE BETTER TO WORD THIS POLICY TO SAY IF THERE'S A SCHOOL DISTRICT THAT HAS A PORTION OF ITS ATTENDANCE OF ITS BOUNDARIES WITHIN DALLAS COUNTY WE WILL DO THE WAIVER BUT WE WON'T DO IT FOR THE ENTIRE CONTIGUOUS COUNTY.

>> THAT'S WHY WE ADDED THE PROMISE STUDENT LANGUAGE.

WE ARE VERY SELECTIVE ABOUT THOSE SCHOOLS WE SELECT TO PARTICIPATE IN PROMISE.

BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO MEET CERTAIN EXPECTATIONS OF US TO BE PARTICIPATORY IN THAT PROGRAM.

SO THIS POLICY AMENDMENT WOULD ONLY EXTEND TO STUDENTS ELIGIBLE BY SIGNING THE DALLAS COUNTY PROMISE PLEDGE.

>> IT ONLY APPLIES IF YOU ARE IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT THAT OVERLAPS IN THE OTHER COUNTY.

BUT THE STATE LAW THAT ALLOWS IT SAYS IT HAS TO BE A CONTIGUOUS COUNTY.

I THINK THAT'S THE REASON WHY IT'S WORDED THAT WAY.

>> WE FOLLOWED THE LANGUAGE OF STATUTE.

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>> OUT OF THE 253 STUDENTS THAT WERE THE EXCEPTION OUT OF HOW MANY TOTAL?

>> ABOUT 250 STUDENTS IS ABOUT 10% OF THE TOTAL PROMISE STUDENTS.

SO IT RPRESENTS ABOUT 10%.

GRAN BURY HAD A HIGH RATE, WE IDENTIFIED THIS ISSUE WE DIDN'T WANT TO BE SAYING ONE THING AND DOING ANOTHER WITH RESPECT TO THOSE STUDENTS.

>> CHANCELLOR J. MAY: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? FIRST READING TODAY.

COME BACK IN DECEMBER.

>> AND CERTAINLY SEND US THE LANGUAGE AND WE WILL TRY TO NUANCE THOSE.

>> D. ZIMMERMANN: IS THIS IN ANY WAY GOING TO IMPINGE ON STUDENTS FROM THE COUNTY GETTING THE BENEFIT?

>> NO.

>> THE FOUNDATION HAS THE RESOURCES TO COVER THAT.

WE HAVE MADE SURE OF IT.

WE ARE ALREADY PLANNING ON SUPPORTING THOSE STUDENTS.

IT WAS OUR ASSUMPTION.

I MEAN, AGAIN IT'S A TECHNICALITY WE WEREN'T AWARE OF THAT WAS BEING APPLIED WHEN THE STUDENTS WERE ENROLLED.

SO WE WERE ALREADY BUDGETED THE DOLLARS TO TAKE CARE OF THOSE STUDENTS GOING FORWARD.

>> SO THE FISCAL IMPACT WON'T BE COLLECTED BECAUSE OF THE WAIVER.

>> IT'S A NET ZERO EFFECT BECAUSE WE ARE PAYING OURSELVES.

>> I UNDERSTAND THE FOUNDATION'S ROLE BUT I'M ASKING FROM THE DISTRICT'S POINT OF VIEW, HOW MUCH TUITION REVENUE DO WE FOREGO AS A RESULT OF THIS WAIVER IF WE ADOPT IT?

>> IT'S NOT MATERIAL.

GIVEN THEM THE WAIVER OF THIS IN THE PROMISE STUDENTS, THEY ARE WAIVING THE OUTSIDE PORTION I WOULD HAVE TO CALCULATE.

250 STUDENTS.

>> D. FLORES: SONNY, WHERE IS YOUR CALCULATOR?

>> WE CAN DO THIS LATER.

WE HAVE A MONTH TO LOOK AT IT.

>> D. FLORES: $12,500.

>> THE AMOUNT OF MONEY IF NOT IN DISTRICT

>> I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER ALSO WE TALKED ABOUT THE APPROACH, IF WE WERE TO TRY TO DO THAT IN THIS INSTANCE IT WOULD COMPLICATE THE ENROLLMENT PROCESS BECAUSE OUR FOLKS WOULD HAVE TO BE ABREAST OF WHATEVER CONTRACTUAL ARRANGEMENTS WE WOULD HAVE.

I WOULD SUBMIT FROM A BUSINESS STANDPOINT IF IT GOT TO THE POINT WHERE THE PROMISE NETWORK WERE SUCH THAT WE HAD A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF DISTRICTS, INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICTS THAT HAD PROMISED STUDENTS THAT WERE OUTSIDE DALLAS COUNTY WE COULD ADDRESS A WHAT THAT DISTRICT'S OBLIGATION MGHT BE TO HELP MAKE UP FOR SOME SHORTFALL IN TERMS OF REVENUE IF WE HAVE TO.

BUT AT THIS POINT I'S NOT MATERIAL BECAUSE $12,500.

>> THE OTHER PIECE TOO, IF FOR US, WE KNOW ALMOST NONE OF THOSE STUDENTS WOULD BE GOING TO COLLEGE ANYWAY.

THEY WOULDN'T BE GTTING THE PELL GRANT.

WE WOULDN'T BE GETTING STATE AID ON THEM.

SINCE THE DATA IS CLEAR THAT OUR 40% GROWTH FROM THOSE HIGH SCHOOLS ARE VIRTUALLY ALL THE PEOPLE WE DIDN'T TAKE SOMEWHERE ELSE, THEY SMPLY WEREN'T GOING.

>> THERE ARE MANY COLLEGE DISTRICTS THAT FORM THEIR BOUNDARIES BASED ON SCHOOL DISTRICT BOUNDARIES.

TERENCE, COLLINS, WE ARE KIND OF UNUSUAL.

SQUARED OFF IN THESE LITTLE BOXES BUT THERE'S A PROCESS IF IT GOT TO BE MONEY THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THE FINANCIAL PERSON MIGHT COME THROUGH AND SAY MAYBE WE NEED TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF ANNEXING THAT PART.

I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO BE MATERIAL IN ANYTHING.

IT'S MORE, HOW DO YOU OFFER THE SAME PROGRAM TO ALL STUDENTS THAT ARE IN THAT HIGH SCHOOL AND TREAT THEM ALL EQUALLY?

>> AND WHAT WERE THE NUMBER OF HIGH SCHOOLS THAT FALL INTO THESE?

>> I DON'T KNOW OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

>> BECAUSE THEY WOULD BE THE ONLY ONES THAT WOULD POSSIBLY BE PROMISE ELIGIBLE.

SO SOMEBODY IN NORTHERN COLIN COUNTY ISN'T GOING TO BE AN ISSUE.

THEY AREN'T GOING TO BE PROMISE ELIGIBLE.

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>> IT'S LIKE -- BRANCH PART OF D.I.S.D. ALSO GOES INTO COLLIN.

>> PART OF GRANDE PRAIRIE.

>> GOES INTO ARLINGTON.

>> RICHARDSON.

YEAH, RICHARDSON GOES INTO COLLIN.

>> THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS THEMSELVES SO EVEN AT RICHARDSON --

>> MAKING IN MORE HIGH SCHOOLS THAN.

>> RIGHT NOW, VIRTUALLY ALL THE SCHOOLS ARE SOUTH.

GRANDE PRAIRIE WAS THE DRIVER.

THESE WERE MAINLY GRANDE PRAIRIE STUDENTS.

BECAUSE WE'RE NOT YET REALLY UP -- RICHARDSON IS COMING ON STRONG THIS YEAR.

>> SHE HAS SOME FOLKS THAT WILL JOIN HERE AT THE TABLE SO I'M GOING TO EXCUSE MYSELF.

[B. Financial Item: Agreement with Knowbility, Inc. for Accessibility Audit Services, Districtwide]

>> TODAY I HAVE WITH ME -- AND SEAN MANDEL.

THEY ARE THE CO-CHAIRS OF THE DISTRICT'S ACCESSIBILITY TASK FORCE.

AS YOU KNOW, WE CONVENED A DISTRICT-WIDE ACCESSIBILITY TASK FORCE IN 2017 COMPRISED OF REPRESENTATIVES OF ALL THE COLLEGES AND LOCATIONS INCLUDING STAFF, FACULTY, ADMINISTRATORS AND EXECUTIVE LEADERSHIP.

AMONG CHARGES OF ACCESSIBILITY TASK FORCE IS TO LOOK AT ALL OF THE OR ASSESS THE ACCESSIBILITY OF THE DISTRICT'S DIGITAL TECHNOLOGY.

THAT ALSO INCLUDES DEVELOPING POLICY WHICH IS ON THE AGENDA FOR LATER THIS AFTERNOON.

AND IDENTIFYING AN AUDITOR TO CONDUCT AN AUDIT OF OUR DIGITAL TECHNOLOGY.

YOU HAVE A MEMO PREPARED BY THE OFFICE OF THE GENERAL COUNCIL THAT OUTLINES THE POLICY.

JOHN WILL DISCUSS BACKGROUND OF THE VENDOR W HAVE SELECTED AS WELL AS THE SCOPE OF THE AUDIT.

AND LASHAWN WILL GIVE AN UPDATE OF THE TASK FORCE.

>> BASICALLY, THE COMPANY WE HAVE CHOSEN TO DO OUR AUDIT, NOBILITY OUT OF AUSTIN.

WE FOUND OUT ABOUT THEM THROUGH A CONFERENCE THIS YEAR.

WE LOOKED AT A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT AUDITORS AND FELT NOBILITY HAVE BEEN AROUND SINCE THE EARLY 2000'S.

THEY AE KIND OF A LEAD ORGANIZATION FOR ACCESSIBILITY AROUND THE COUNTRY.

THEY ARE ALSO ON THE D.I.R.

LIST.

WE GET A DISCOUNTED RATE BECAUSE THEY ARE ON THE D.I.R.

LIST.

THEY ARE PART OF D.W.C. II O ORGANIZATION WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY THE ORGANIZATION THAT SETS STANDARDS FOR WEBSITES.

THIS IS HOW YOU SHOULD BUILD A WEBSITE TO MAKE IT ACCESSIBLE AND DO ALL THESE THINGS.

THEY HELPED WRITE SOME OF THE STANDARDS.

THERE WILL PROBABLY BE ABOUT A FOUR-MONTH PROCESS, WE HAVE IDENTIFIED A NUMBER OF WEBSITES INTERNALLY, EXTERNALLY, INSTRUCTION AND NON-INSTRUCTIONAL AND THEY WILL GO THROUGH AND DO AN AUTOMATED CHECK OF THOSE PAGES.

BASICALLY TE COMPUTER WILL SAY IS THIS BOX CHECKED OR UNCHECKED? THEY WILL DO THAT INITIAL AUTOMATIC AUDIT AND THEY USE PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES TO DO A MANUAL AUDIT OF OUR SITES, THEY WILL G THROUGH AND SIT DOWN WTH SOMEONE WITH A VISUAL OR HEARING IMPAIRMENT AND FIND OUT CAN YOU NAVIGATE OUR WEBSITES.

CAN YOU DO THINGS LIKE BLACKBOARD, MY CAMPUS PORTAL.

THAT'S THE PROCESS THEY WILL GO THROUGH.

I'VE BEEN IMPRESSED WITH THEM SINCE WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM TO FIGURE OUT THE SCOPE OF WORK SINCE MARCH.

I THINK THEY ARE GOING TO DO A REALLY GOOD JOB SETTING A BASELINE OF WHERE ARE WE RIGHT NOW, WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO.

THEY WILL LOOK AND SAY THIS IS WHERE YOU ARE AT.

THESE ARE SOME ISSUES WE SEE POPPING UP ON DIFFERENT WEBSITES AND THINGS AROUND THE DISTRICT AND HERE ARE

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SUGGESTIONS HOW YOU CAN PROVE AND MAKE ALL OF YOUR CONTENT ACCESSIBLE FOR STUDENTS AND THE COMMUNITY.

>> ARE THEY COMPETITIVE WITH OTHER COMPANIS?

>> YES.

>> OKAY, SO THE ACCESSIBILITY TASK FORCE, WE WANTED TO BE COLLABORATIVE AND TRANSPARENT THROUGHOUT THE DISTRICT IN WHAT WE ARE PLANNING TO DO.

THAT INCLUDES ALL OF THE COLLEGES AS WELL AS DIGITAL COMMUNICATIONS, I.T., FACULTY, DISABILITY SERVICES OFFICE AND LEGAL DEVELOPMENT, THAT COMPRISES THE ACCESSIBILITY TASK FORCE.

WE STARTED THIS JOURNEY, I WOULD SAY, 2017 RGARDING HAVING COMPRESSION PLANNING TO ASSESS WHAT IT IS WE NEEDED TO DO.

THE ULTIMATE PRIORITY IS ON DIGITAL COMMUNICATION.

OUR WEBSITES.

AND DEALING WITH OUR FACULTY AND CURRICULUM AND SO FORTH.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE BEEN DOING, THERE'S A NUMBER OF THINGS WE HAVE BEEN DOING.

THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CONVERSATION REGARDING ACCESSIBILITY.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID IN TERMS OF BEING TRANSPARENT IN OUR EFFORTS IS THE MY PORTAL.

WE HAVE AN ACCESSIBILITY TASK FORCE WEB PAGE WHERE WE TALK ABOUT OUR PROCESS, WE TALK ABOUT THE POLICY THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT LATER ON THIS AFTERNOON AS WELL AS WE HAVE COMMITTEES, INSTRUCTIONAL AND NON-INSTRUCTIONAL.

OUR INSTRUCTIONAL SUBCOMMITTEE WILL INCLUDE FACULTY AND TALKING ABOUT CURRICULUM AND HOW WE COULD MAKE OUR, BE MORE ACCESSIBLE, HOW WE COULD PROVIDE TRAINING FOR OUR FACULTY IN THAT WAY.

AND ALSO WE HAVE THE NON-INSTRUCTIONAL WHICH DEALS WITH THE WEBSITES AWARENESS TRAINING AND SO FORTH FOR BOTH OF THOSE COMMITTEES SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE COVERED ON BOTH FRONTS.

JONATHON AND I, WE STARTED ACCESSIBILITY BEYOND COMPLIANCE.

WE WANTED TO TALK ABOUT NOT JUST LAWS AND REGULATIONS BUT WHAT'S IMPORTANT FOR THIS DISTRICT, THE MORAL ISSUES REGARDING ACCESSIBILITY AND DISABILITY.

SO WE PRESENTED OUR PRESENTATION AT TACA TECH ASSOCIATION OF COMMUNITY COLLEGE ATTORNEYS.

AND MARKETERS.

AND THEN WE ACTUALLY BROUGHT BACK TO THE DISTRICT AN ACTUAL ROADSHOW.

WE HAVE HAD THIS PRESENTATION A FEW TIMES AT THE DIFFERENT COLLEGES WITHIN THE DISTRICT.

BECAUSE WE RECOGNIZE THAT ACCESSIBILITY IS NEW FOR A LOT OF FOLKS AND WE WANTED TO DISPEL ANY ANXIETY AS MUCH AS WE COULD RGARDING THE EFFORTS THE DISTRICT IS TAKING TO BRING ACCESSIBILITY TO THE FOREFRONT OF THE DISTRICT.

THIS IMPACTED THE BOARD MEETINGS AS FAR AS HAVING CLOSED CAPTIONING FOR THE MEETINGS, AS WELL AS TRANSCRIPTS SO ANYONE COULD BE ABLE TO PROVIDE INFORMATION, TO GET INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT WAS COVERED IN THE BOARD MEETINGS.

>> D. ZIMMERMANN: SO TE CONTRACT IS UP FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL AT THE REGULAR MEETING AND POLICY WILL BE DISCUSSED AT EDUCATIONAL WORKFORCE COMMITTEE MEETING AND WE ARE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

>> IS THIS AMOUNT TO ASSESS OUR BASELINE AND WE TAKE ACTION BASED ON WHAT THEY FIND OUT?

>> YES.

THEY ARE GOING TO DO, AS JONATHON SAID, AN AUDIT OF A SELECT SAMPLE OF OUR WEB PAGES INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL AND GIVE US A PLANNED REGIMENT TO CORRECT OR MEDIATE ISSUES.

>> SO THEY WILL GIVE US A PLAN TOO.

OKAY.

>> AND THIS IS DRIVEN IN PART BY AN AUDIT, FEDERAL AUDIT? OF OUR ACCESSIBILITY, THAT WE AREN'T COMPLYING -- THIS WILL HELP ALLEVIATE THAT?

>> HAPPY TO DISCUSS THAT, RECOMMEND THAT IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

ESSENTIALLY WE ARE TRYING TO GET COMPLIANCE, ACCORDING TO ALL TE APPLICABLE LAWS.

THERE ARE SEVERAL SECTION 508, SOME UNDER TEXAS ADMINISTRATIVE CODE BUT REALLY OVERALL IT'S THE A.D.A.

SO WE ARE REQUIRED TO PROTECT AGAINST ANY DISCRIMINATION AGAINST PRSONS WITH DISABILITIES.

SO WE STARTED THIS WORK BEFORE THAT MOVE BY DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION TO ASSESS ALL OF THE DIFFERENT COLLEGES BECAUSE THERE'S QUITE A FEW IN THE COUNTRY OVERALL.

AND WE STARTED THIS WORK BEFORE THAT.

BUT SINCE THEY ARE WATCHING WE ARE ACCELERATING OUR WORK IN THAT AREA.

>> D. FLORES: DISABILITY ISN'T

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JUST LIMITED TO MOBILITY FACTORS BUT ALSO TECHNOLOGY.

ANYTHING ELSE OUT THERE THAT MIGHT AFFECT ACCESSIBILITY THAT YOU ALL ARE AWARE OF?

>> IN TERMS OF IN THE PHYSICAL SPACE ENVIRONMENT?

>> CHAIR D. FLORES: AND LEARNING.

>> I THINK THIS IS A COMPREHENSIVE LOOK AT ALL OF THAT.

WE KNOW WHERE A LOT OF THE CHALLENGES ARE.

WE HAVE A LONG HISTORY OF PUTTING COURSES ONLINE.

P.D.F. I JUST A PROBLEM BECAUSE IT'S NOT ACCESSIBLE.

AND ONCE WE PUT IT OUT THERE AND YOU CAN ACCESS IT FROM ANYWHERE THIS REALLY HAS TO MEET THE FEDERAL CRITERIA.

ONE OF THE WAYS WE DEALT WITH CONTENT IS THROUGH THAT PROCESS.

>> AS LASHAWN MENTIONED IT'S BEYOND THE P.D.F., I'S A SIFT IN OUR CULTURE.

WHEN YOU ARE DEALING WITH JUST EMAIL FOR EXAMPLE, WANTED TO CALL ATTENTION TO THE RECEIVER HOWEVER IF APERSON IS VISUALLY IMPAIRED AND USING A READER AND CAN'T PICK UP THE HIGHLIGHTS I HAVE BEEN TRAINED TO UNDERLINE OR BOLD BECAUSE THOSE CAN BE PICKED UP WITH A READER.

>> WE KIND OF TKE IT FOR GRANTED, IT'S OBVIOUSLY A PROBLEM IF YOU HAVE CERTAIN --

>> THIS POPULATION HAS GROWN.

IT'S AT 10% RIGHT NOW.

POPULATION, IT'S JUST GOING TO INCREASE BECAUSE IT'S NOT LIKE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT MOBILITY, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT LEARNING DISABILITIES AS WELL.

WHAT WE ARE DOING IS DEFINITELY GOING TO IMPACT THAT POPULATION.

AND INCREASE OUR POPULATION IN TERMS OF --

>> ULTIMATELY I THINK OUR GOAL IS THAT WE WOULD LIKE, WE ARE MOVING TOWARD UNIVERSAL DESIGN.

>> EVERYONE WILL HAVE ACCESS.

>> THIS IS MORE THAN JUST A COMPLIANCE REQUIREMENT, YOU WANT US TO BE LEADERS IN THIS AREA?

>> ABSOLUTELY.

WE WOULD LIKE THE DISTRICT TO BE THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICT OF CHOICE FOR THE POPULATION.

>> WE SEE COMPLIANCE AS THE BASEMENT, LOWER LEVEL.

-- SKYSCRAPER.

WE MAKE THE IDEA THAT CAPTIONS ON NETFLIX BENEFIT ME AS A DAD.

I DON'T HAVE HEARING IMPAIRMENT, BUT I CAN WATCH SHOWS WHILE MY KIDS ARE SLEEPING.

--

>> THANK YOU.

>> ANY OTHER BUSINESS TO COME BEFORE THE FINANCE COMMITTEE? WE ARE ADJOURNED.

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