>> ALL RIGHT, GUYS, WE READY TO GET STARTED.
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BROTHER PHIL IS HERE.WE HAVE A ACCORDANCE WITH CHAPTER 551 OF THE TEXAS OPEN MEETING ACT CANS CALL
[1. Roll Call - Announcement of a Quorum]
TO ORDER THE FINANCE COMMITTEE MEETING OF THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES DALLAS COLLEGE FOR SEPTEMBER THE 14TH 2021.MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO HAVE FOLLOWED THE INSTRUCTION FOR REGISTERING TO SPEAK DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENT, WILL HAVE FIVE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
THIS BOARD MEET SOMETHING BEING BROADCAST OVER THE INTERNET AN AN AUDIO RECORDING AND A TRANSCRIPT OF THIS MEETING ARE BEING MADE AND WILL BE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC AT A LATER DATE ON THE BOARDS WEBSITE.
CAW PLEASE CONFIRM THE MEETING HAS BEEN POSTED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE LAW.
[2. Certification of Notice Posted for the Meeting]
>> I CAN, THIS MEETING WAS POSTED ACCORDING TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 551.054.
ARE THERE CITIZENS DESIRING TO SPEAK?
YOU KNOW, THE MEETS THAT WE HAD TODAY ARE TWO VERY INTERESTING SUBJECTS AND SUBJECTS THAT ARE PROBABLY ONE, THE TAXATION, IS PROBABLY THE MOST CONFUSING AND THE LANGUAGE THAT IS USED IS PROBABLY THE MOST UNREPRESENTATIVE OF WHAT WE REALLY DO, BUT IT IS STATE LAW AND WE HAVE TO DO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT I HAVE EXPERIENCED THIS MORE AS A MAYOR IN PARKLAND AND OTHER PLACES, BUT IT HAS GOTTEN FAR MORE COMPLICATED.
BUT I TOOK TIME LAST WEEK AND SPENT TIME WITH JOHN AND HIS STAFF TO BE SURE AND GO THROUGH THE WORDING WITH THE ATTORNEYS AND ALL TO BE SURE TO PREPARE FOR THE MEETING TODAY.
I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT OUR STAFF IS VERY IN TUNE AND VERY IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE LANGUAGE AND PROPOSAL THE WAY IT'S TO BE PRESENTED LEGALLY.
SO, I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.
BUT I DID WANT JOHN TO TAKE SOME TIME TODAY, AND JOHN, IF YOU WILL TAKE A FEW MOMENTS TO GO THROUGH IT.
BUT I CAN ASSURE YOU THEY HAVE COMPLIED AND THEY ARE PRESENTING IN EFFECT, EXACTLY WHAT THE LAWS REQUIRES US TO DO.
[4.1. Dallas College Property Tax Review Presenter: John Robertson]
>> I'LL BE BRIEF BUT OPEN TO QUESTIONS.
>> SHE THOUGHT YOU WERE THROUGH.
WELL, THIS IS REALLY THE ONLY SLIDE I NEED TO TALK ABOUT.
WHAT DO WE USE OUR TAX MONEY FOR? AND YOU'LL REMEMBER FROM WHEN WE TALKED LAST MONTH, THE SLIDE WAS SHOWN WITH ALL REVENUE SOURCES, BUT IT REMINDING THE BOARD OF WHERE WE USE OUR TAX MONEY.
DUEL CREDIT THE, SCHOLARSHIPS, THERE'S STILL A PART OF INSTRUCTION WE HAVE TO PAY FOR, ACADEMIC SUPPORT, THE LIBRARIES, THE FACILITIES ABOVE THE OPERATIONAL MAINTENANCE PLAN, STUDENT SERVICES WHICH WE'VE BEEN ADDING MORE TO BE MORE STUDENT-FOCUSED THERE'S MORE THINGS IN STUDENT SERVICES N IN AN INSTITUTIONAL SUPPORT WE'VE GOT THE OPERATIONS AND ALL THE INITIATIVES AND THINGS THAT TAXES ALLOW US TO DO.
SUCH AS WHAT WE NEED TO ACCOMPLISH IN IT WITH THE ERP AND SO ON, WHAT WE'RE DOING IN STUDENT SERVICEWISE ADDED ADVISORS AND HEALTH CARE, AND ALL THE OTHER COMFORTS OF HELPING STUDENTS COMPLETE ON TIME.
THIS IS TAXING 101, JUST A REMINDER, NOT EVERYBODY HAS BUT WE HAVE TWO COMPONENTS OF OUR TOTAL TAX RATE.
THERE'S THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION.
THAT GOES TO THE OPERATING BUDGET.
THAT'S THE ONE THAT Y'ALL SEE THAT WE TALK ABOUT THAT WE USE TO FUND THOSE TYPES OF EXPENSES THAT WE HAVE.
THERE'S ALSO A COMPONENT CALLED THE INTEREST AND SINKING FUND AND ALSO THE DEBT SERVICE FUND, MONEY THAT GOES INTO THAT CAN ONLY BE USED TO PAY FOR THE DEBT SERVICE ON OUTSTANDING DEBT THAT THE COLLEGE HAS.
MARKET VALUE, I'LL REMIND YOU THAT'S BY THE DALLAS COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT VALUED AS OF JAN 1ST AND IS SUPPOSED TO BE THE VALUE OF APP COMPETITIVE NATURE OF WHAT A BUSINESS OR RESIDENCE WILL BE WORTH.
THE TAXABLE ASSESS VALUE IS THE MARKETABLE.
LEVEE IS THE REVENUE TIMES THE TAXABLE ASSIST VALUE.
LEVEE IS PUBLIC BUT WE DON'T USE IT.
WE PROJECT WHAT OUR BUDGETED TAX REVENUE SHOULD BE AND THEN WE LOOK AT TAX
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COLLECTIONS.WHICH IS WHAT ARE WE GETTING? WHAT'S THE DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT WE'RE GETTING? THE TAX OFFICE COLLECTS THAT MONEY FOR US AND REMITS IT TO US ON A DAILY BASIS.
FINALLY, AFTER TWO YEARS, THE LEGISLATURE TWO YEARS AGO CAME UP WITH A NEW PROGRAM.
AND NO NEW REVENUE RATE IS FINALLY STARTING TO ROLL OFF MY TONGUE.
AND THAT IS THE RATE THAT WOULD PROVIDE THE SAME AMOUNT OF REVENUE WHEN SUPPOSEDLY, COMPARING LAST YEAR'S TAV TO THIS YEAR'S TAV HOWEVER THEY'RE ADJUSTED AND THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY IN MY BOOK IN THE NUMBER OF YEARS I'VE DONE THAT TOTALLY COMPARABLE.
THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE IS A NEW NEW REVENUE RATE TIMES OUR 1.08 CAP.
AND IT'S CALCULATE THE DIFFERENT BUT PRETTY MUCH THAT'S HOW IT RUNS.
THEY USE TWO DIFFERENT NEW I ADJUSTED TVAS FOR THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE CALCULATIONS AND THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE CALCULATIONS.
THAT'S WHERE TRUSTEE BOYD WAS TALKING ABOUT BEING COMPLICATED AND IT HAS GOTTEN VERY COMPLICATED.
AND IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR JOHN G PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND, IT DID NOT.
>> THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT OUR RATES WILL STAY EXACTLY THE SAME, WE WOULD HAVE DONE WHAT WE DID IF THERE WASN'T THE LEGISLATIVE INTERJECTED CITIES HAVE TO LIVE WITH 3.5%.
AND SO, A LOT OF THOSE ARE REALLY HAVING TO OFFICIALLY RESTATE THEIR RATE TO STAY WITHIN THAT 3.5%.
IT APPEARS THEY'RE BUILDING A REDUCTION IN THE RATE WHEN THEY'RE NOT.
AND OUR'SIOUS THE MAIN THING I WANTED TO SAY WAS IN MY POSITION I WAS WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE NOT VIOLATED OUR 8% AND WE HAVEN'T.
>> SOME OF THIS IS JUST MORE THAN YOU WANT TO KNOW.
BUT WE'RE CLASSIFIED AS A SPECIAL TAXING UNIT.
SO IF YOU HEAR SOMETHING AS CHAIR BOYD WAS SAYING ABOUT AN ISD OR CITY OR COUNTY, THEY'RE ALL DIFFERENT.
THEY USE DIFFERENT RULES ON WHAT THEY APPLY WITH.
THESE SPECIAL TAXING UNIT ARE A SMALL PERCENTAGE OF ALL TYPES OF TAXING ACROSS THE STATE.
SO, SINCE DALLAS COLLEGE HAS A PROPOSED RATE ABOVE THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE BUT BELOW THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE WHAT WE DID IS WE'RE HAVING A MEETING TO ADOPT THE RATE HERE AND THE HEARING WILL BE ALSO AT THE SAME MEETING.
THE LAW CHANGED WHERE NOW WE ONLY HAVE TO HAVE ONE HEARING.
SO, THE TWO HEARINGS WE'VE BEEN HAVING IN AUGUST ARE GOING AWAY.
WE WILL BASICALLY GOING TO AN AUGUST DATE WHERE WE PROPOSE A RATE WITH THE BOARD AND THEN A SEPTEMBER DATE IN WHICH WE HAVE THE HEARING AND ADOPT THE RATE.
THAT'S ONE THING THAT HE DID THAT WORKED OUT A WHOLE LOT BETTER.
>> I MEAN, DO WE HAVE TO ADOPT THE RATE BEFORE THE BUDGET MEETING? BECAUSE THE YEAR BEGINS SEPTEMBERÂ 1ST, RIGHT?
WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, NORMALLY, THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT IS REQUIRED TO GET US THE TAXABLE ASSESS VALUE BY JULYÂ 25TH, YOU HAVE 30 DAYS FROM THAT POINT TO BE ABLE TO ADOPT A RATE.
THIS YEAR, THEY DID IT ON JULY 22ND, SO WE HAVE UNTIL SEPTEMBER 22ND, NEXT WEEK, TO ADOPT A RATE.
SO, WE REALLY ARE DOWN TO WE NEED TO ADOPT A RATE AT THIS.
>> OR SEPTEMBERÂ 30TH [INDISCERNIBLE] >> WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING LATER THAN SEPTEMBERÂ 30TH.
>> BUT, I THINK YOUR QUESTION WAS A FACULTY ONE, AS WE PREPARE BUDGETS, WE NEED TO KNOW THOSE NUMBERS.
>> A BUDGET MUST BE APPROVED FIRST BEFORE YOU CAN ADOPT THE RATES.
>> APPROVING THE BUDGET IN AUGUST, AND THEN THAT'S WHY WE TYPICALLY APPROVE THE BUDGET, PROPOSED THE RATE.
>> WE APPROVE IT FIRST, YOU GET THE MONEY.
THE TWO MAY NOT ALIGN AT THE END OF THE DAY, BUT THEN YOU MAKE IT WORK.
>> WE COULD, ACTUALLY ADOPT IT EARLIER.
HOWEVER, OUR PRACTICE HAS ALWAYS BEEN AND THERE HAVE BEEN LOCAL ENTITIES THAT HAVE GOTTEN IN TROUBLE OF WAITING UNTIL THE CERTIFIED TAV WAS PUBLISHED, WHICH IS NORMALLY, AS I SAID, JULYÂ 25TH, AND WE'RE CLAMORING TO A BOARD MEETING
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THAT FALSE ON THE FIRST TUESDAY, THAT'S WHY WE'RE ALWAYS JUGGLING THESE MOTIONS AND WHAT WE'RE DOING AT THE LAST MINUTE.BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING THE INFORMATION AT THE LAST MINUTE.
BUT, I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND THAT WE MOVE UP BEFORE WE ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT THE.
>> I THINK WE'RE GENERALLY CLEAR ON IT.
I MEAN, AS LONG AS WE NEVER CONFUSE THE AUTHORITY WITH THE ACTUAL BUDGET IN TERMS OF SOME OF THIS.
>> AT THE TOP, THERE USED TO BE THE EFFECTIVE TAX RATE WHICH IS WHAT I GREW UP ON.
NOW, IT'S ALLED THE NO-NEW-REVENUE TAX RATE.
NEAR NOT SIMILAR BUT IF YOU WANTED TO MAKE AN ANALOGY, IN THE ROLEBACK RATE REQUIRED A PETITION TO HAVE AN ELECTION.
THE VOTER-APPROVAL RATE AND WE HAVE HAD BEEN BEEN ABOVE THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE IF WE HAD GONE WITH OUR CURRENT 10.4 CENTSES THAT WE HAD, AND ACTUALLY IT'S SHOWING A REDUCTION HERE ON THE BOTTOM, WE HAVE A REDUCTION IN THE RATE.
WE'RE GOING DOWN BY A HALF OF A CENT, IF YOU WILL, AND WE'LL ACTUALLY YOU COULD SEE THAT WE HAD A TAX RATE REDUCTION.
>> I NEVER THOUGHT I WOULD HEAR THOSE WORDS FROM YOUR MOUTH.
YOU CAN ALWAYS OVERTURN THAT AND WE CAN GO TO A VOTE.
>> WELL, AND TWO, ONE OF THE CONSIDERATIONS AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO SOME NEW FORECASTING OF WHAT WE HAVE.
IS WE'VE GOT TO REALLY KNOW BEFORE THOSE NUMBERS COME OUT WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE.
AND NORMALLY, WE DIDN'T HAVE TO.
YOU KNOW, WE COULD LOOK AT OUR HISTORY OF WHAT WE'VE SEEN WITH THE TAV, PROJECT WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE AND PROJECT TAX REVENUE.
NOW WE HAVE A CAP THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION.
AND ONCE YOU GO DOWN THAT PATH, YOU LOSE IT, YOU BASICALLY LOST IT FOREVER.
>> IT'S VIRTUALLY A FOREVER LOSS.
>> YOU WOULD HAVE TO GET SO FAR DOWN THAT YOU REALLY IS THEN WORTH THE MILLION DOLLAR TO GO BACK TO THE VOTERS AND TO DO IT.
>> JUST GO WHAT WHAT'S GIVEN TO YOU EACH YEAR AND YOU'VE GOT AN ACCEPTABLE RATE AND KEEP THE RATE AND WHATEVER APPRECIATION OF THE PROPERTY GOES YOU HAVE SOMETHING BETTER.
>> YOU WOULDN'T LET IT, I MEAN, ONCE IT GOES DOWN IT'S JUST GONE.
>> SCRIPTURE SAYS MAKE HEY WHILE THE SUNSHINES.
>> WE'RE GOING TO CUT THE TAX RATE DEPENDING?
>> ON $100,000 HOME AS THEY MAKE IT STATE T IT ACTUALLY WILL SAVE $0.49 ON THE TAX BILL.
IT'S NOT A LOT BUT IT IS A RATE REDUCTION.
AND WHAT WENT INTO EFFECT WAS THE FACT THAT THE WAY THAT THE NUMBERS CAME OUT ON THE ADJUSTED TVAS, THE WAY IT'S CALCULATED IT WOULD HAVE PUT US OVER IF WE ADOPTED THE 10.4 CENTS.
SO, WE WOULD HAVE GOTTEN MILLION DOLLAR MORE ON REVENUE AND SPENT IT ON THE ELECTION WHICH PROBABLY WOULD HAVE COST US $1.5Â MILLION.
>> THE ONLY STRATEGY WOULD BE AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE IF THIS BOARD DID ANOTHER BOND ELECTION PUT IT ON THAT ELECTION.
>> BUT AS SOME LOCAL CITY COUNCILMEN ARE USING THAT 3%.
>> WE HAVE THE SAME TAX RATE FOR 10 YEARS.
>> BUT DON'T SAY HOW MUCH, BECAUSE THEN THEY'RE GOING TO.
THIS WAS SOME PREVIOUS INFORMATION.
>> SO, REALLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS FOR THIS YEAR WE HAD THE CERTIFIED TAV OF $299Â BILLION.
THAT'S THE PREVIOUS YEAR IN EQUATABLE TERMS IT WAS $290Â BILLION.
SO, THERE'S BEEN A $9Â BILLION INCREASE.
THAT'S WHAT WE USED AND THAT'S WHAT WE LOOK AT AS TO WHAT'S GOING ON.
>> HEY, JOHN, PUT THAT IN PERSPECTIVE, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS EARLIER, WITH THE OFFERINGS, THERE ARE ONLY A FEW COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE MORE THAN $6Â BILLION IN TOTAL REVENUE, SO, GO UP, $9Â BILLION IS MORE THAN WHAT THE MAJORITY OF THE STATES HAVE BY FAR.
>> SO, WE BASE THAT ON WHAT WE SEE COMING THROUGH ON THE CERTIFIED BUDGET.
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AND MY POINT HERE TODAY IS WHAT WE DO ON BUDGET IS NOT RELATED TO WHAT THESE TAX CALCULATIONS ARE.WE LOOK AT WHAT WE THINK THE REVENUES WILL BE, THIS IS A CALCULATION ON TRYING TO COMPARE LAST YEAR TO THIS YEAR.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS MORE OF WHAT I WAS TRYING TO SAY ON WHAT WE LOOK AT IS WHAT IS THE CURRENT TAV, WHAT IS THE CERTIFIED GOING TO NEXT YEAR? AND THAT'S HOW WE COME UP WITH OUR COLL CUE LAGS PLUS ANYTHING .
>> AND WE STAY WITHIN THE RULES OF THE LAW.
>> THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING.
>> ANYBODY ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH, WHERE DID ROB GO?
[4.2. Redistricting 2021: Process and Guidelines Concerning Redistricting Following Release of 2020 Census Data Presenter: David Mendez, Bickerstaff Heath Delgado Acosta LLP]
>> NOW WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT REDISTRICTING.
>> NOW, WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING SIMPLE LIKE REDISTRICTING.
TO HAVE DAVID MENDEZ FROM BICKERSTAFF HEATH AND DELGADO.
IT'S A DISTINGUISHED FIRM THAT REPRESENTED US THROUGH DISTRICTING AND REDISTRICTS MATTERS.
>> HE'S VERY FAMILIAR WITH US, BUT WE'RE HAPPEN TO HAVE DAVID HERE, HE'S RESPONSIBLE FOR A COUPLE OF ORDERS ON YOUR REGULAR AGENDA TONIGHT AND HE'S GOING TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE REDISTRICTING PROCESS.
PLEASED TO BE HERE WITH YOU, AGAIN.
FOR WHAT WILL BE MY FOURTH CYCLE OF REDISTRICTING WITH Y'ALL IN THE COUNTY AND THE COLLEGE DISTRICT HAS EXPERIENCED A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF GROWTH, AGAIN DURING THE DECADE.
WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF PREPARING MATERIALS FOR Y'ALL.
SO ROB ASKED ME TO GIVE Y'ALL AN ADVANCED HEAD'S UP OF WHAT THE FALL WILL LOOK LIKE FOR US IN GETTING THROUGH THE REDISTRICTING PROCESS.
I'VE GOT A PRESENTATION FOR US HERE, I THINK THE DOME WILL HELP ME WITH THE SLIDES.
SO, IF WE COULD GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
>> WHAT I'M GOING TO COVER WITH Y'ALL THIS EVENING IS A REPORT ON WHERE WE ARE IN PROCESSING THE CENSUS DATA.
A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT THE CENSUS DAILT HAS SHOWN GLOBALLY AND WHAT IT POUR TENDS FOR US.
WITHIN ABOUT A WEEK OR 10 DAYS, BY THE END OF THE MONTH, CERTAINLY, I'LL HAVE A WRITTEN, FORMAL REPORT TO AWFUL YOU WITH THE ACTUAL NUMBERS.
AND THEN IN OCTOBER, AT YOUR REGULAR OCTOBER MEETING, WE WILL HAVE A FORMAL PRESENTATION ON THAT FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC AND THEN, WE WILL KIND OF GO THROUGH A PROCESS AND I'LL DESCRIBE THAT THIS EVENING.
SO, A THAT REDISTRICTING TIMELINE THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT IS GREATLY COMPRESSED THIS CYCLE.
THE TRADITIONALLY, WE WOULD HAVE STARTED THIS PROCESS IN THE SPRING, BUT THAT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN AVAILABLE TO THE STATE AND TO THE COUNTY IN APRIL, AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE SPENT THE SUMMER AND MANY OF Y'ALL WHO HAVE BEEN THROUGH THIS PROCESS WITH US BEFORE, WOULD HAVE WORKED THROUGH THE SUMMER IN A SERIES OF WORK SESSIONS TO BUILD A PLAN FOR ADOPTION.
SINCE WE HAD MAY OF '22 ELECTIONS, OUR FILING DATE FOR THE CANDIDATES THAT ARE GOING TO FILE FOR THE OFFICES THAT ARE UP NEXT MAY BEGIN FILING ON JANUARYÂ 19TH.
SO, WE WOULD NEED TO BE DONE BY THAT POINT IN TIME WITH OUR PROCESS WITH THE DATA BEING RELEASED SO LATE IN THE CYCLE, WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS A TIMELINE THAT IS MUCH COMPRESSED BUT I THINK WILL GET US THROUGH AT PROCESS IN AN ORDERLY FASHION.
>> HOW LONG DID THE TIMELINE TAKE THE LAST TIME, I CAN'T REMEMBER.
>> WE SPENT ALMOST SIX MONTHS, TRUSTEE, AND IF YOU'LL RECALL, IN FACT, THE ONE BEFORE AS WELL, WE SPENT ABOUT SIX MONTHS GOIN THROUGH IT.
IN THIS ONE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ABOUT 100 DAYS TO GET THROUGH THE PROCESS.
PART OF WHAT WE LIKE TO DO AND JUST FOR ORDERLINESS AND LACK OF VOTER CONFUSION, IS TO USE CAN'T ELECTION PRECINCTS AS A BUILDING BLACK FOR THIS
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PROCESS, THAT'S PART OF THE TRADITIONAL REDISTRICTING IT CRITERIA WHICH TAKE OUT THE GERRYMANDERING AND THINGS LIKE THAT WHEN WE USE BIG BUILDING BLOCKS FOR REDISTRICTING.AND DALLAS COUNTY WILL HAVE TO FINISH IT'S REDISTRICTING BY NOVEMBERÂ 13TH, BECAUSE THE FILING DATES FOR THE PRIMARIES ARE SET AT NOVEMBERÂ 13TH.
SO, THOSE GUYS WE'RE ALL RUSHING TO GET DONE IN OCTOBER.
THE OTHER THING I WANT TO MENTION TO Y'ALL AND DISCUSS BRIEFLY HERE IS THE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS FOR REDISTRICTING.
THE GUIDELINES AND CRITERIA THAT YOU WILL BE CONSIDERING FOR FORMAL ADOPTION LATER THIS EVENING ARE THE TYPES OF CRITERIA AND PROCESSES WE HAVE USED TO OBTAIN PUBLIC INPUT, TO DRAW DISTRICTS THAT HAVE SERVED US WELL OVER THE LAST THREE DECADES.
AND THEY ARE SIMILAR IN SCOPE BUT, THERE ARE NUANCES BECAUSE THE LEGAL CHANGES THAT HAVE OCCURRED.
AND I'M GOING TO GO OVER THOSE AND THERE ARE STATE LAW CHANGES THAT HAVE OCCURRED AND I'LL GO OVER THOSE WITH YOU AND THEY HAVE CHANGED SLIGHTLY THE PROCESS THAT WE GO THROUGH AS A TEAM TO BUILD THE PLANS.
SO, WITH THAT IN MIND, AND I'LL REVIEW THOSE POLICIES, UNTIL BEFORE I FINISH THIS EVENING.
IN THE BE THE LAST STEP AS YOU GO FRESH INTO YOUR BOARD MEETING, YOU'LL HAVE THAT IN OUR FOREFRONT OF YOUR MIND.
WHAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IN REGARDS TO THE RELEASE OF DATA, I THINK THAT SHOULD BE THE SLIDE THAT SHOULD BE UP RELEASE THE CENSUS DATA AND SO, TEXAS GREW AT THE FASTEST RATE OF ANY SIGNIFICANT STATE IN THE COUNTRY DURING THIS DECADE.
DALLAS COUNTY WASN'T MUCH BEHIND THAT WE GREW AT A 10% RATE OF INCREASE.
SO THE COLLEGE DISTRICT'S POPULATION WILL BE A 2.6Â MILLION PEOPLE YOUR DISTRICTS WILL THUS EXPAND IN TOTAL IN THE IDEAL POPULATION SIZE DURING THE CYCLE BUT IT DIDN'T GO QUITE AS FAST IT AS THE REST OF THE STATE BUT WE STILL EXPERIENCED SUBSTANTIAL GROWTH.
THE DIVERSITY OF THE COUNTY CONTINUES TO EXPAND.
AND SO, HISPANIC POPULATION AS A PERCENTAGE OF THE TOTAL POPULATION GREW A LITTLE BIT.
IT'S NOW AT 40.5% OF THE TOTAL POPULATION.
LAST CYCLE, IF YOU'LL RECALL, WE WERE AT 38.25%.
SO, THERE'S BEEN A SLIGHT INCREASE THERE IN HISPANIC POPULATION, THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN POPULATION STAYED AT THE SAME LEVEL IT WAS.
IT REPRESENTS ABOUT 21.9% OF THE POPULATION OF THE COUNTY AND, IT'S REMAINED IN THAT SAME PLACE.
WHAT HAS SHIFTED IS IS IT THE ANGLO POPULATION HAS GONE FROM BEING 33% OF THE POPULATION DO 27% OF THE POPULATION.
SO, WHERE THE REST OF THE CHANGE IS A DRAMATIC GROWTH IN THE ASIAN POPULATION IN OUR COMMUNITIES.
THIS AREA HAS BEEN NO DIFFERENT IN THAT RESPECT.
SO, IT'S BEEN THAT'S WHERE THE CHANGE IS.
GROWTH IN THE HISPANIC POPULATION AND THEN THIS ASIAN GROWTH.
AND THERE'S A NEW CATEGORY IN THE CENSUS WHERE THEY HAD FOLKS THAT COULD IDENTIFY BY TWO RACES.
AS A CATEGORY AND THERE'S A 2% OF THE POPULATION OF DALLAS COMMUNITY COLLEGE OF THE COLLEGE DISTRICT IS IN FACT IDENTIFIED IN THIS MULTI-RACIAL CATEGORY.
SO A VERY INTERESTING CHANGES.
>> THAT'S BEEN THE MULTIRACIAL?
>> A PERSON COULD INDICATE THEY WERE BLACK AND WHITE, OR BLACK AND ASIAN AND AS YOU KNOW, THE WAY THE CATEGORIES WORK, THERE ARE RACIAL GROUPS AND THEN THERE ARE NATIONALITY GROUPS LIKE A PACIFIC ISLANDERS OR DIFFERENT PEOPLE FROM DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE WORLD.
AND THEN THERE'S ONE ETHNICITY.
SO THE WAY YOU'LL SEE THE DATA BROKEN OUT AS WE GO THROUGH THE REPORT SUNSHINE
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HISPANIC POPULATION, ANYBODY WHOSE IDENTIFIED AS HISPANIC, REGARDLESS OF WHAT RACIAL CATEGORY THEY MIGHT HAVE INDICATE.A PERSON CAN INDICATE WELL, I'M WHITE AND HISPANIC, OR I'M BLACK AND HISPANIC, A RACE AND AN ETHNICITY IS ALLOWED.
AND NOW WE HAVE THAT NEW CATEGORY WHERE YOU COULD INDICATE MULTIPLE RACES AND.
>> WHAT WAS THE PERCENTAGE GROWTH OF THE ASIAN POPULATION?
IT WAS 4.97% THE LAST SECOND AND IT'S ALMOST AT 7% NOW.
>> AND THE DECREASE OF THE WHITE POPULATION, IS THAT BECAUSE THEY MOVED OUTSIDE OF DALLAS COUNTY OR IS THAT DEATH RATES?
>> IT'S A COMBINATION OF ALL OF THOUGH.
>> THAT'S NUMBER OR PERCENTAGE?
SO, I WOULD THINK THAT THE ABSOLUTE NUMBER OF PERSONS PROBABLY GREW BECAUSE THE COUNTY HAD...
>> OF THE WHITE POPULATION >> OF ALL BECAUSE WE HAD SO MANY TOTAL PEOPLE IN THE COUNTY WE WENT FROM 2.3Â MILLION TO 2.6Â MILLION.
SO THE ANGLO POPULATION PROBABLY GREW JUST NOT AS FAST AS THESE OTHER CATEGORIES.
>> AND I THINK THEY'RE STILL IN OUR HIGHWAYS AND BI'WAYS, THEY'RE NOT AWAY.
>> THE OTHER THING THAT'S HAPPENED IS IT'S VERY INTEGRATED.
IN THE OLDEN DAYS, IN 1991, WHEN I WAS IN REDISTRICTING HERE, IN 2000, WE HAD VERY DEFINITE HISTORICALLY HISPANIC AREAS OF TOWN.
HISTORICALLY AFRICAN-AMERICAN AREAS OF TOWN, AND THEN AS THE DECADES HAVE GONE BY, WE'VE INTEGRATED MORE, SO THAT WILL BE A CHALLENGE AS TO HOW DO WE MAINTAIN THE VARIOUS TYPES OF DISTRICTS WE HAVE THAT ARE MAJORITY MINORITY AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
WHAT YOU'LL SEE FIRST IS IS A WRITTEN REPORT WHICH I WILL PROVIDE THROUGH LEGAL COUNSEL TO YOU.
IT'S GOING TO SHOW THE BREAKDOWN FOR YOUR DISTRICT.
THAT'S WHAT MY STAFF IS DOING NOW.
IT'S TAKEN US LITERALLY A MONTH, TO BREAK IT DOWN TO PROCESS IT FOR COUNTIES.
AND IT'S BEEN MONUMENTAL EFFORT.
SO, YOU'RE GOING TO GET THAT WRITTEN REPORT AND YOU'LL ALSO GET A SURVEY FROM ME.
BECAUSE ONE OF THE MAJOR LEGAL CHANGES THAT OCCURRED DURING THE DECK KID IS THE WAY IN WHICH OPEN MEETING ARE NOW.
IN THE PAST DECADES, I WOULD HAVE SAT DOWN WITH AN INDIVIDUAL TRUSTEE.
AS SEISM YOU WOULD RECALL, YOU WOULD WALK ME THROUGH CHANGES.
IF YOU WERE OVERPOPULATED OR UNDERPOPULATED IN YOUR DISTRICT, YOU WOULD WALK ME THROUGH YOUR NEEDS AND I WOULD TAKE THAT AND BUILD A PLAN.
WELL, THE WAY OPEN MEETINGS LAW NOW HAS EVOLVED, IF YOU HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH ME ABOUT YOUR DISTRICT, AND LET'S SAY YOUR UNDERPOPULATED, SO WE HAVE TO AS COCONSEQUENCE, RECOGNIZE, THAT I'M GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE POPULATION FROM YOUR NEIGHBORING DISTRICT THAT'S OVERPOPULATED, LET'S SAY, AND ADD IT TO YOUR'S, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A MAP IN YOUR NEIGHBOR'S DISTRICTS AND WHAT TERRITORY YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO OR MIGHT FIT IN WITH YOUR DISTRICT IF WE HAVE TO REALIGN THE BOUNDARY TO GET IT INTO BALANCE.
>> WELL, WHEN I GO TO THE NEXT TRUSTEE AND I HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THEIR DISTRICT, IT'S GOING TO NECESSARILY INVOLVE TALKING ABOUT A MAP, RIGHT? AND SO, BY THE TIME I GET TO A FORM OF Y'ALL, YOU WOULD HAVE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH A THIRD PERSON ABOUT A SUBJECT MATTER THAT WOULD RIGHTFULLY BE BEFORE THIS BOARD AND SHOULD BE IN PUBLIC.
SO, TO AVOID HAVING A DIALOG THAT GETS Y'ALL IN TROUBLE, WHAT WE'RE DOING THIS CYCLE FOR ALL OF OUR CLIENTS IS PREPARE AGO WRITTEN SURVEY WITH QUESTIONS IN LINE WITH THE IT GUIDELINES THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH TONIGHT, TRADITIONAL CRITERIA, BUT I'M GOING TO ASK YOU IN YOUR QUESTIONNAIRE, TRUSTEE, YOUR DISTRICT IS
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OVERPOPULATED BY 10,000 PEOPLE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GIVE UP.IN TERMS OF THE LEGAL CRITERIA, PLEASE PROVIDE ME WITH INFORMATION ABOUT YOUR DISTRICT SO I COULD DEVELOP A PLAN.
I'LL TAKE THAT WRITTEN REPORT BACK THROUGH ROB'S OFFICE AND THEN I'LL COME TO Y'ALL IN THE FIRST WORK SESSION WITH THE PLAN THAT ESSENTIALLY I WOULD HAVE BUILT BASED ON WRITTEN SURVEYS FROM Y'ALL.
AND OF COURSE, IF SOMEBODY HAS A QUESTION OR NEEDS CLARIFICATION ON AN ITEM, I CAN TAKE CALLS AS LONG AS YOU KNOW WE'RE NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE WHOLE MAP WE'RE JUST GOING TO TALK ABOUT YOUR PARTICULAR LEGAL NEED IN REGARDS TO FILLING OUT THE SURVEY.
AND THEN WHEN WE COME HERE, I'M GOING TO PRESENT A MAP BASED ON A COMPOSITE OF WHAT I OBJECT TAN FROM EVERYBODY.
THAT'S GOING TO BE PART OF THE REDISTRICTING.
IT'S AN ILLUSTRATION ON WHAT I DEVELOPED BASED ON THE INFORMATION I GOT FROM YOU.
IT WILL BE ON THE SCREEN SO EVERYBODY CAN SEE IT AND WE CAN THEN GO AROUND THE TABLE AND GET EVERYBODY'S INPUT AS TO HOW TO FINE TUNE IT, REALIGN IT, DRAW A DIFFERENT ONE IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE ONE WE STARTED WITH.
BUT, THAT'S GOING TO BE THE DIFFERENCE IN HOW TO APPROACH REDISTRICTING THIS CYCLE BECAUSE OF OPEN MEETINGS LAW.
SO, I WANT TO MOVE THROUGH THEN, THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE, IF I COULD.
THIS IS SHOULD BE MY REDISTRICTING TIMELINE SLIDES, AND I CAN'T SEE IT OVER THERE, BUT I THINK THAT'S WHAT IT IS.
SO, IT IS OUR INTENTION TO GET YOU THAT WRITTEN REPORT BY THE END OF THIS MONTH SO THAT Y'ALL CAN START LOOKING AT IT AND THAT QUESTIONNAIRE IS THERE, BUT WE'RE GOING TO DO THE FORMAL PRESENTATION OF THAT REPORT TO THE PUBLIC AT YOUR OCTOBERÂ 5TH BOARD MEETING.
>> SO, THAT'S GOING TO BE OUR STARTING POINT FOR THE PROCESS.
AND WE'LL ANALYZE AND GO OVER WITH THE DISTRICTS THAT ARE OVER AND UNDER POPULATED AND ALL OF THAT, AND WE'LL HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT AND THEN IF WE COULD GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
WE WILL THEN HAVE A SERIES OF WORK SESSIONS THAT ARE SCHEDULED NOW.
THE FIRST ONE THAT I SCHEDULED WITH ROB WAS FOR NOVEMBERÂ 9TH.
AND THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE FOR DECEMBERÂ 2ND.
>> PARDON ME, DAVID, OCTOBERÂ 5TH WAS CORRECT.
>> OCTOBERÂ 5TH, REGULAR BOARD MEETING GO OVER THE INITIAL ASSESSMENT.
THEN WE PAL COME BACK IN AND BY THAT TIME I WOULD HAVE TAKEN THE INPUT FROM THE SURVEYS, DEVELOP ADD ILLUSTRATIVE PLAN.
IT'S NOT GOING TO POP UP HERE ON IN PUBLIC ON THE 9TH, ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS WILL SEE THAT AND YOU CAN TALK TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS ABOUT ISSUES IN REGARDS TO THAT, SORT OF DIGEST IT IF YOU WILL, WE'LL COME IN HERE ON NOVEMBERÂ 9TH, THE PLAN WILL BE UP ON THE SCREEN RIGHT ON THE COMPUTER IN FRONT OF YOU, AND ALONG THE BOTTOM, IF YOU'LL RECALL, TRUSTEES THAT HAVE BEEN HERE BEFORE, WE CAN DRAW INTERACTIVELY, WITH YOU RIGHT HERE, SO WE'LL HAVE A CHART RUNNING AT THE BOTTOM OF THE MAP THAT HAS ALL THE DISTRICTS AND POPULATIONS.
LET'S SAY, YOU DIDN'T LIKE SOMETHING, YOU WANT TO TRY SOMETHING DIFFERENT, WE CAN POP THOSE IN AND OUT ENTERTIVELY HERE AS WE GO AROUND THE TABLE AND YOU CAN SEE WHAT IT DOES TO THE NUMBERS, BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO GET EACH DISTRICT AS CLOSE TO THE POPULATION SIZE SO WE'RE IN THE 10% DEVIATION OF THE LAWS, AND IF YOU DON'T LIKE THAT PARTICULAR PLAN WE CAN SAVE THAT ONE AND DRAW A DIFFERENT ITERATION.
AND THE IDEA WOULD BE THE ONE THAT WE DRAW ON NOVEMBERÂ 9TH, WE WOULD POST SOMEWHERE ON THE DISTRICT'S WEBSITE.
WE'LL HAVE SOMETHING ON THE HOME PAGE THAT SAYS, THE REDISTRICTING IS AVAILABLE ON THE ELECTION'S PAGE OF THE DALLAS COLLEGE WEBSITE.
AND A PERSON CAN GO THERE AND GET THE TOO GUIDELINES, CRITERIA AND PLANS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK AT THE ENDS OF THE MONTH, WE'LL HAVE HAD THAT FIRST SESSION, WE COULD HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING RIGHT IN FRONT OF THAT ONE, IF YOU
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WANTED TO GET PUBLIC COMMENT OF EACH OF THESE WORK SESSIONS FROM THE COMMUNITY OR WE COULD DO THE FIRST WORK SESSION GO THROUGH IT POST IT AND HAVE THE DECEMBERÂ 2ND TEND WORK SESSION, HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING AT THE FRONT END OF THAT ONE SO ANY CITIZEN THAT WANTS TO SUPPORT OR CRITICIZE THAT PLAN CAN COME IN OR PRESENT A PLAN OF THEIR OWN.>> WILL YOU DO THAT BY EXISTING DISTRICTS AS WELL?
>> TO SEE THAT FOR EACH OH, THE SUMMARY?
>> THAT'S THE INITIAL ASSESSMENT.
SO, WHAT IT'S GOING TO SHOW IS THE 2 PNT 6 MILLION POPULATION DIVIDED BY THE 70 TRUSTEE DISTRICT WILL GIVE US THE IDEA OF THE IDEAL DISTRICT SIZE.
>> SO, IT WILL BE HIGH OR LOW.
THERE'S A RACIAL ANALYSIS FOR EACH DISTRICT AND THAT'S REALLY CRITICAL AND IT GOES TO THE NEXT SERIES OF WELL, LET ME JUST FINISH THE TIMELINE.
>> WELL, ON THAT, NOW THE CENSUS, OF COURSE, IS THE OVERALL POPULATION, BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT VOTING-AGED POPULATION, HERE, SO HOW DO WE?
>> WE DRAW THE DISTRICTS ON TOTAL POPULATION, WE ANALYZE THE VOTING STRENGTH OF THE PROTECTED GROUPS BY VOTING AGE.
AND I'LL GO INTO THAT IN JUST A SECOND.
BUT, YOU'RE JUST KIND OF THREE SLIDES AHEAD OF ME ON THIS.
>> SO, IF WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, WHAT I'M SHOOTING FOR IS THAT YOUR FIRST OPPORTUNITY TO ADOPT A PLAN WOULD BE AT YOUR BOARD MEETING ON DECEMBERÂ 7TH.
IF YOU DECIDE AT THE DECEMBERÂ 2ND MEETING THAT THERE'S STILL WORK TO BE DONE, WE LITERALLY HAVE UNTIL THE MIDDLE OF JANUARY TO DO IT.
AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO ADOPT THE PLAN AT A REGULAR BOARD MEETING.
SO, YOU HAVE ANOTHER MONTH AND-A-HALF OF TIME IN CASE YOU WANT TO GET INTO SOMETHING A DIFFERENT DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW TO DO IT.
YOU KNOW, OR THERE'S UNFINISHED BUSINESS ABOUT HOW TO DRAW IT.
>> SO, ROB, WHAT DOES IT COST US TO REDISTRICT?
>> DAVID, IT'S VERY REASONABLE.
AND HONESTLY, THERE'S NOBODY ELSE WE WOULD USE BECAUSE THEY ARE IT IT'S NOT AN INEXPENSIVE UNDERTAKING BUT IT'S ONE REQUIRED BY LAW TO TO AND WE'RE OBLIGATED.
>> IT RUNS GENERALLY 50-$70,000.
>> ABOUT AS MUCH AS AN ELECTION?
>> AND IT'S NOT THAT EXPENSIVE, BUT, GREATLY FACILITATED BY MY, I HAVE A TEAM OF SEVEN PEOPLE WHO DRAW THESE DISTRICTS, I MEA THEY'RE ALL COMPUTER TECHNICIANS AND MAPPING EXPERTS, THEY'RE ALL SITTING IN AN OFFICE IN AUSTIN AND WE USE THE INTERNET TO HAVE THEM HOOKED INTO THE SYSTEM, SO THEY'RE LIVE AND LISTENING TO OUR DISCUSSION HERE AS WE'RE DRAWING AND THE PERSON ASSIGNED TO MY MAP FOR YOU IS DRAWING WITH US DURING THAT AFTERNOON SESSION WITH Y'ALL.
SO, THEY DON'T HAVE TO TRAVEL AND WE'RE WORKING LITERALLY ON 70 OF THESE PROJECTS AT THE SAME TIME THAT HAVE TO BE DONE BY JANUARY.
SO, IT'S KIND OF A CRAZY PROCESS FOR US, BUT ON YOUR END IT'S REASONABLE AND SANE.
>> SO, WITH THAT IN MIND, AND A DECEMBERÂ 7TH FIRST OPPORTUNITY TO ADOPT, THE NEXT SLIDE IS JUST SOMETHING THAT THE STAFF CAN GIVE YOU IF Y'ALL WANTED TO HAVE A GRAPHIC OF THE TIMELINE WE'RE WORKING WITH, AND REALLY THAT'S JUST TO SHOW YOU HOW WE'RE GOING TO GET THERE THIS CHRONOLOGICALLY.
I WOULD LIKE TO GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE TO TALK ABOUT THE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS AND FINISHING UP WITH THESE REDISTRICTING CRITERIA GUIDELINES THAT YOUR GOING TO ADOPT TONIGHT.
>> NOW, THE REASON WE'RE REDISTRICTING TO.
YOU ARE LEGISLATURES, YOU LEGISLATOR THE PEOPLE OF CALLS COUNTY AS IT RELATE TOSS COMMUNITY COLLEGE.
JUST LIKE OUR CONGRESS AND LEGISLATURE, YOU MUST BE ELECTED FROM DISTRICTS THAT
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ARE EQUAL IN SIZE.SO THE ONE PERSON ONE VOTE REQUIREMENT IS WHAT DICTATES THE REASON THAT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS EVERY DECADE.
THE FACT THAT YOU ARE ELECTED FROM THESE SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS MEANS YOU MUST PAY ATTENTION EVERY TIME THE CENSUS COMES OUT AND THE TOTAL NUMBER OF PERSONS IN THE COUNTY HAVE TO BE CONSIDERED AND YOU TAKE 1/7TH OF THE TOTAL NUMBER OF PERSONS IN YOUR COUNTY THAT SHOULD BE YOUR DISTRICT SIZE WITHIN 10%.
AND THE WAY THAT 10% IS CALCULATED IS WE LOOK AT THE MOST UNDERPOPULATED DISTRICT BASED ON THE 2020 CENSUS AND FIGURE OUT, LET'S SAY IT'S 5% UNDERPOPULATED AND WE LOOK AT THE MOST OVERPOPULATED TRUSTEE TRICK-OR-TREATING IN THE COLLEGE AND LET'S SAY IT'S 15% OVERPOPULATED.
THE TOTAL DEVIATION FOR YOUR COLLEGE IS 20%.
THE 5% UNDER AND THE 15% OVER ARE BASICALLY ACCUMULATED AND THE DISTRICT'S 20% OUT OF BALANCE.
WHOA SO WE'RE TRYING TO ALIGN THE BOUNDARIES SO THE DISTANCE FROM THE MOST POP YOU LACE AND THE LEAST POPULACE IS 10%.
>> THAT SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF LEEWAY?
>> YES, A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF LEEWAY.
SO YOU COULD BE SEVERAL THOUSAND PEOPLE LIGHT IN YOUR DISTRICT AND ANOTHER DISTRICT MIGHT BE SEVERAL THOUSAND PEOPLE HEAVY.
BUT THAT WOULD STILL FIT THE TEST.
AND SO, THERE'S PLENTY OF LEEWAY AND SO YOU CAN THEN CONSIDER WHAT IS WITHIN MY TRUSTEE DISTRICT, OR WHAT SCHOOL DISTRICTS ARE WITHIN MY.
AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT THE ISSUE'S ALL ABOUT IS HOW DO YOU SERVE YOUR CONSTITUENTS? WHAT ARE THE THINGS THAT YOU DO FOR YOUR VOTERS AND YOUR TAXPAYERS, AND HOW CAN WE ALIGN FOR THAT PURPOSE.
AND THAT'S WHAT TRADITIONAL REDISTRICTING CRITERIA GO AT.
SO, THE OTHER REQUIREMENTS AND THE TERM ASKED ABOUT HERE'S WHERE VOTING AGE POPULATION COMES INTO PLAY.
ONCE YOU START REALIGNMENT, THE VOTING RIGHT'S ACT PROTECTS THE VOTERS THAT HAVE HISTORICALLY BEEN DISCRIMINATED AGAINST IN OUR COUNTRY.
THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT VOTE PROTECTED PEOPLE FROM UNDUE.
YOU CAN NORTH PACK OR CRACK BODIES GROUPS OR COMMUNITIES OF THESE HISTORICALLY DISCRIMINATED AGAINST PERSONS WITHIN A DISTRICT.
SO WHAT WE WILL EXAMINE IS WHETHER A DISTRICT HAS A SUBSTANTIALLY LARGE ENOUGH GROUP OF PROTECTED MINORITIES, AND THIS WOULD BE HISPANICS, AFRICAN-AMERICANS, ASIANS.
THOSE ARE THE NATIVE AMERICANS.
THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF GROUPS THAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT.
AND YOU WOULD EXAMINE WHETHER A TRUSTEE DISTRICT HAS A SUBSTANTIALLY LARGE POPULATION OF THAT TO BE ABLE TO ELECT TO BE A MAJORITY IN THAT DISTRICT.
THEN AS YOU MODIFY THE LIPS TO GET IT BACK IN BALANCE R YOU WANT TO BE SURE THAT YOU DON'T CRACK OR FEDERALMENT THAT POPULATION.
THAT YOU OR THAT YOU PACK ALL OF THEM INTO ONE DISTRICT SO THAT YOU DIMINISH THEIR ABILITY TO ELECT PEOPLE OF THAT PROPORTION IN THE COUNTY.
SO, YOU'RE LOOKING AT BALANCING THOSE FEETTURES AND THAT'S WHY VOTING AGE MATTERS BECAUSE YOUR EXAMINING THE VOTING STRENGTH OF THE DISTRICT, YOU'RE LOOKING TO SEE IF THE PEOPLE 18 YEARS OF AGE OR OLDER WHICH ARE REGISTER TO VOTE ARE MAJORITY.
THAT'S WHY THE MB BECOMING IMPORTANT AND WE HAVE BOTH OF THOSE STATISTICS ON THOSE.
>> SO, THE MINORITY, THE ANGLOS WOULD GET A LOT OF PROTECTION.
>> WELL, THAT'S THE OTHER SIDE OF THE EQUATION, EXACTLY.
Y'ALL ARE JUST RIGHT IN PRONTO OF MY FODDER TO FOR MY PRESENTATION BECAUSE THE
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NEXT POINT IS IN 2013, SHELBY COUNTY VERSUS HOLDER WHICH WAS A SUPREME COURT SAYS THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE NO LONGER HAS TO GO TO WASHINGTON AND GET DOJ APPROVAL TO DRAW BOUNDARIES.EVERY OTHER TIME SINCE DISTRICTS GOT SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS, I THINK IN THE '80S, THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE HAS BEEN GOING BEFORE IT COULD IMPLEMENT ANY CHANGE IN THE TRUSTEE DISTRICTS WE WOULD HAVE TO TAKE THEM TO WASHINGTON AND GET THEM PRECLEARED WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE.
IN 2013, THE SUPREME COURT RULED THAT THAT REQUIREMENT WAS INVALID.
AND THAT'S THE DECISION, I THINK YOU WERE REFERRING TO, TRUSTEE FLORES WHERE THERE'S NO LONGER A DOJ PRECLEARANCE.
BUT SECTION TWO STILL APPLIES.
IF WE DON'T DO THIS RIGHT, A VOTER COULD SUE US AND CHALLENGE US FOR HAVING DISCRIMINATED IN EXACTLY WELL, IN A SUBSTANTIALLY SIMILAR FASHION TO THE WAY DOJ COULD HAVE DONE IT.
AND DOJ CAN COME IN AND ENFORCE THE ACT AGAINST US EVEN IF WE DON'T NEED TO GET THEIR PERMISSION.
IF THEY DON'T LIKE THE WAY WE DID IT, MAKE SUE US THEMSELVES, IF THEY THINK WE DISCRIMINATED.
THE MAJOR DIFFERENCE THAT OCCURRED IS IN THE OLDEN DAYS WHEN WE HAD TO GO TO DOJ TO GET PRECLEARED.
WE HAD TO SHOW THAT WE HADN'T CLEARED.
IN THE YEAR 2011 WE WENT BACK WITH A PLAN, DOJ'S STANDARD FOR TESTING WHERE WHETHER THERE WERE AT LEAST AS MANY MINORITY DISTRICTS IN THE 2011 PLAN AS THERE WERE IN THE 2000 PLAN, THAT WE HADN'T GONE BACKWARDS IN PROCESS.
>> BUT, THAT WOULD APPLY IF THE POPULATION WERE STILL QUITE DIVERSE, IF THE POPULATION SHIFTED AND WAS MAJORITY WHITE.
>> BUT THEY WERE WATCHING YOU TO SEE IF YOU WERE BACKSLIDING.
BUT NOW, THE TEST IS WELL ARE THEY DRAWING IN PROPORTION SO THE PERCENTAGES OF THE POPULATION.
THEN, AS A TRUSTEE WAS MENTIONS, WHAT ABOUT THE PROTECTION.
IN 2006, THE SUPREME COURT RULED THAT YOU CAN NORTH USE RACE -- OR YOU COULD USE RACE ONLY TO THE LIMITED EXTENT OF PROTECTIN FOLKS UNDER SECTION 2 AND THEN YOU'VE GOT TO STOP USING.
YOU CAN'T JUST BE DRAWING THE TRUSTEE DISTRICT BASED ON RACIAL ISSUES.
THAT'S RACIAL GERRYMANDERING AND THAT'S PROHIBITED.
THAT'S WHY YOU DO TRADITIONAL DISTRICTING CRITERIA.
AND SO, THAT GETS US TO THE POLICIES THAT WE'RE ADOPTING TONIGHT.
WHICH THE COURTS HAVE FOUND ARE IF YOU FOLLOW THESE PROCEDURES OR THESE GUIDELINES FOR THE CRITERIA FOR YOUR DRAWING, YOU WILL BE PROTECTED FROM A CLAIM THAT YOU ARE RACIALLY GERRYMANDERING.
SO, YOU'RE GOING TO BE CONSIDERING AN ORDER ADOPTING CRITERIA FOR USE IN THE 2021 REDISTRICTING PROCESS.
I'M GOING TO READ THROUGH THE LIST OF THOSE CRITERIA THAT THE COURTS HAVE FOUND TO BE APPROPRIATE FOR YOU TO USE IN YOUR REDISTRICTING.
TO THE EXTEND PRACTICE CALL, THEY'RE GOING TO ASK YOU TO FOLLOW, YOU'RE GOING TO BE ASKING THE DRAWERS OF THE PLANS AND WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO DRAW USING EASILY IDENTIFIABLE GEOGRAPHIC BOUNDARIES.
WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST SHOULD BE MAINTAINED IN A SINGLE DISTRICT AND ATTEMPTS TO SPLIT NEIGHBORHOODS OR SCHOOL DISTRICTS OR THINGS LIKE THAT SHOULD BE AVOIDED.
SO, AMONG THE THINGS THAT YOU MIGHT IN THAT CATEGORY OF CRITERIA THAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER IS WELL R YOU KNOW, I REPRESENT ALL THE CITIZENS OF CAPELL SCHOOL DISTRICT OR MESQUITE SCHOOL DISTRICT OR WHICHEVER TERRITORIES ARE IN YOUR AREA THAT YOU THINK VOTERS ELECT YOU TO REPRESENT THEM FOR.
SO THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT TO WATCH FOR.
OR WHICH CAMPUSES ARE IN YOUR AREA.
>> ON THAT FIRST ORDER, THE GUIDELINES, ON ITEM 2, IT SAYS FOR EACH PROPOSED COMMISSIONER PRECINCT SO DO WE USE THAT LANGUAGE.
>> IT SHOULD SAY TRUSTEE DISTRICT IF THERE'S A COMMISSIONER WORD IN THERE,
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IT SHOULDN'T BE THERE.>> IT SHOULD BE TRUSTEE, I'M SORRY, IT'S AÂ TEMPLATE.
>> THE THIRD CRITERIA IS THAT THE TRUSTEE DISTRICT SHALL BE COMPOSED OF WHOLE VOTING PRECINCTS.
AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT EARLIER, WE'RE TRYING TO USE BIG BUILDING BLOCKS FOR CONSTRUCTING THESE TRUSTEE DISTRICTS AND THE COUNTY ELECTION PRECINCTS ARE TRADITIONALLY USED BY THE COURTS.
IF YOU FOLLOW THAT PROCESS, THE COURTS WILL SAY, OH, THEY WERE USING A NONDISCRIMINATORY BUILDING BLOCK.
NUMBER FOUR, ALTHOUGH IT'S RECOGNIZED THAT THE DISTRICTING HAVE TO BE ALTERED TO REFLECT POPULATION IN THE COLLEGE ANY DISTRICTING PLAN SHOULD BE BASED ON IT.
SO, WHAT THAT MEANS WE'RE GOING TO START AND THE COURTS LIKE TO BE SURE THAT THE POLITICAL DIVISION STARTS WITH THE EXISTING TERRITORY BECAUSE YOU ADOPTED THOSE IF 2011 FOR THE LEGITIMATE PURPOSE OF ELECTING BOARD MEMBERS AND THEY'VE BEEN PERFORMING ELECTING A REPRESENTATIVE FROM EACH DISTRICT FOR A WHOLE DECADE.
YOU DON'T WANT TO IGNORE THEM AND START WITH A WHOLE NEW PLAN.
YOU WANT TO USE THE OLD DISTRICTS AS A STARTING BLOCK.
AND IF SOMEONE'S OVER OR UNDER POPULATED YOU TRY TO CHANGE IT TO GET INTO BALANCE BUT YOU DON'T CHANGE THE WHOLE THING BECAUSE ARE YOU DISCONNECT THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN YOU AND THE PEOPLE WHO ELECT YOU.
DISTRICTS SHOULD BE CONFIGURED SO THEY'RE RELATIVELY EQUAL IN TOTAL POPULATION.
NUMBER SIX IS THEY SHOULD BE COMPACT AND CONTINUOUS TERRITORY AND THAT'S TO AVOID THE GERRYMANDERED MAPS THAT WE'VE ALL IN THE LAST DECADES, YOU'VE SEEN THEM IN CONGRESS, THEY LOOK LIKE, A PSYCHOLOGICAL TEST.
IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR TRUSTEE MAP IT'S A COMPACT CONFIGURATION.
SO, 7 IS CONSIDERATION SHALL BE GIVEN TO THE PRESERVATION OF THE.
ONE IS GUIDELINES AND ONE IS ORDERS, 2021 REDISTRICTING PROCESS.
>> WE'RE LOOKING AT THE FINANCE COMMITTEE MATERIAL.
>> THERE'S THE GUIDELINES FOR PERSONS.
>> I THINK YOU HAVE TO GO TO THE REGULAR BOARD AGENDA, PAGE 83.
>> THERE IS A SEPARATE DOCUMENT CALLED GUIDELINES FOR PERSONS SUBMITS SPECIFIC REDISTRICTING PROPOSALS.
>> THAT'S IN THE BOARD MEETING.
>> IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING THAT ON 93.
>> IN FINANCE, IT'S THE SAME GUIDELINES.
>> YOU'LL BE ADOPTING AN ORDER ADOPTING CRITERIA FOR USE IN REDISTRICTING PROCESS.
>> I WANT TO SEE THAT BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD.
>> >> IDEALLY, I COULD DRAW IT, I CAN START YOU DOWN THE PROCESS USING THE EXISTING COUNTY ELECTION PRECINCTS, BUT THEN THEY'RE GOING TO CHANGE THEM AND THEN, YOU DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK AND CHANGE YOUR PLAN, BUT, THE EDGES OF IT WILL GET FUZZY FOR THE VOTERS.
BECAUSE, THERE'LL BE SPLIT ELECTION PRECINCTS.
IF I COULD GIVE THE COUNTY BREATHING ROOM TO GET THEIR PROCESS DONE AND DRAW THEIR ELECTION PRECINCTS OR KNOW WHERE THE LINE IS I CAN FOLLOW THAT AND ADDRESS THAT WHILE BUILDING YOUR TRUSTEE DISTRICTS.
WE GOT AWAY WITH THAT FOR 10 YEARS.
>> SO, THAT'S WHY IT'S A PRACTICAL PROBLEM.
>> SO, THE MAY OF 22, THESE ARE THE NONPARTISAN ELECTIONS FOR THE CITY, THE SCHOOL BOARD AND COMMUNITY COLLEGE, RIGHT?
>> IS OUR ELECTION GOING FORWARD CONTINGENT UPON THE OTHER ENTITIES COMPLETING THE REDISTRICTING?
>> THEY GET THE FIRST OF NOVEMBER, WE COULD STILL GO FORWARD, RIGHT? WE'RE ALL BY OURSELVES?
>> YOU'RE ALL BY YOURSELVES, THERE'S NOTHING IMPAIRING YOUR ABILITY OF GETTING READY FOR MAY.
>> THERE WAS ONLY ONE OTHER CRITERIA ON THERE, TRUSTEE, BUT, THE NUMBER AIL EIGHT IS THAT THE PLAN SHALL BE NARROWLY TAYLORED TO AVOID RACIAL GERRYMANDERING.
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WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT AND WE DON'T WANT TO JUST BE LOOKING AT RACE.WE WANT TO LOOK AT THE OTHER IMPORTANT ISSUES SURROUNDING A TRUSTEE BUSINESS.
AND THEN THE PLAN SHALL NOT PACK OR CRACK MINORITY POPULATIONS.
AND THAT'S SIMPLY SPEAKING THE RULES UNDER WHICH WE'LL WORK.
NOW, THE GUIDELINES THAT YOU ARE ALSO ADOPTING ARE FOR RECEIVING INPUT FROM THE PUBLIC.
>> THAT WOULD BE ON YOUR REGULAR BOARD AGENDA, PAGE 81 OF 135, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO.
>> SO, THE GUIDELINES ARE A WAY FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO GIVE YOU INPUT.
THEY CAN SUBMIT A PLAN BUT IT SHOULD BE IN WRITING, IT SHOULD BE LEDGEABLE AND SO WE COULD EVALUATE IT AND YOU CAN DECIDE IF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU WANT TO CONSIDER.
NUMBER TWO, WE WANT THE PLANS TO USE THE SAME KIND OF DATA, THE TOTAL POPULATION FIGURES AND RACIAL AND ETHNIC BREAKDOWNS.
WE WANT THEM TO ESTABLISH FOR YOU THAT THEIR PLAN IS IN BALANCE AND USES THE
SAME DATA THAT YOU DID; >> IT READS COMMISSIONER PRECINCT.
>> IT SHOULD BE TRUSTEE DISTRICT.
>> SO WHEN WE GET TO THAT ON THE REGULAR AGENDA WE'LL THEY THINK THAT TO TRUSTEE DISTRICT.
>> AND DO A WORD FIND TO MAKE SURE COMMISSIONER PRECINCT IS NOT IN INTEREST ANYWHERE ELSE.
>> ON NUMBER THREE, THE PLAN SHOULD REDISTRICT THE ENTIRE COLLEGE.
AND THE IMPORTANCE THERE IS SO MANY TIMES PEOPLE ARE FOCUSED ON THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEY WILL BUILD A TRUSTEE DISTRICT AROUND THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND IT'S ALL GOOD AND FINE, BUT YOU CAN'T BUILD THE OTHER SIX TRUSTEE DISTRICTS AROUND IT WITHIN THE SENSE OF COMPLETENESS OR CORRECTNESS.
AND SO, YOU WANT ANY PLAN THAT GETS PROPOSED TO YOU, YOU WANT THAT PERSON OR GROUP TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF DRAWING ALL SEVEN TRUSTEE DISTRICTS SO THEY CAN HAVE THE DIFFICULT JOB OF ASSIGNING THE REST OF THE POP LAYING AS WELL SO WE'RE ALL WORKING ON THE SAME OBJECTIVE.
NUMBER FOUR, PLAN SHOULD CONFORM TO THE RESTRICTING CRITERIA, THE ONES WE JUST WENT THROUGH EARLIER.
SO FOLKS SHOULD BE ABLE TO DEMONSTRATE TO YOU THAT THE FOLLOWED THE SAME CRITERIA THAT YOU FOUND YOURSELVES TOO.
NUMBER 5, IF THEY DON'T WANT TO SUBMIT A PLAN THEY CAN SUBMIT COMMENTS AS LONG AS AS THEY'RE IN WRITING SAYING I DON'T LIKE OR I SUPPORT THE PLAN, AS LONG AS IT'S IN WRITING.
AND SIX, PERSONS PROVIDING COMMENTS MUST IDENTIFY THEMSELVES BY NAME AND ADDRESS.
AND WE WANT TO DO THAT BECAUSE IN THE EVENT THAT WE HAVE A CHALLENGE OR THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE HAS AN INQUIRY, THEY LIKE TO BE ABLE TO KNOW WOULD TO REACH OUT IF SOMEBODY HAD A CRITICISM AND THAT'S A LEGITIMATE THING FOR YOU TO PROVIDE.
AND ALL COMMENTS AND PROPOSED PLANS SHALL BE SUBMITTED TO THE BOARD BY THE CLOSE OF A PUBLIC HEARING.
SO WE WANT TO PUT A TIME ON THE HEARING ON DECEMBERÂ 2ND, THAT WE RECEIVE ALL COMMENT SO YOU COULD MOVE FORWARD AND SAY, I HAVE ALL THE THINGS, ALL THE COMMUNITY INPUT.
AND THAT'S WHAT I HAVE FOR YOU GUYS.
I THINK THE NEXT SLIDE IS ABOUT QUESTIONS.
BUT THAT'S MY GAME PLAN FOR GETTING US FROM HERE TO THE ADOPTION.
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>> I KNOW DAVID IS HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS.
OBTAINABLE AND COULD BE ANALYZED.
THEY'RE OPERATING I CAN'T IMAGINE THEY'RE OPERATING UNDER A VERY SHORT TIME FRAME AND WE HAVE TO PRIORITIZE DALLAS COLLEGE WHICH I DO APPRECIATE.
YOU'LL BE SEEING A LOT OF DAVID OVER THE NEXT 100 DAYS.
AND THAT'S JUST THE NATURE OF WHAT WE HAVE TO DO.
>> AND I'LL JUST NOTE WE'LL MAKE THIS CHANGE TO THE WORDING, TRUSTEE, DISTRICT IN THIS GUIDELINES, IT'S IN THE NATURE OF AN ERROR I'LL BE SURE TO MAKE THE CHANGE SO THAT WE HAVE PROPER TERMINOLOGY.
>> ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
>> JUST, MR. CHAIR, WE'LL MAKE SURE THE BOARD GETS THE DATES.
WE NEED TO CHECK ONE OF THOSE DATES, I THINK THE DECEMBERÂ 2ND NED TO BE SURE IT DOESN'T CONFLICT WITH THE SITE SERVICE.
LE >> WE HAD WORKED WITH PERLA AND MITCH SHELL TO IDENTIFY DATES.
WE'LL WORK AROUND WHATEVER WE NEED TO.
>> I CAN'T RECALL WHEN THAT IS, SOMEBODY MAY KNOW.
>> YOU'RE CORRECT, DECEMBERÂ 7TH IS THAT WEEK.
>> SO, WE HAVE SOME PLEX INLET FOR WHEN WE GET THERE.
SO, WE CAN FIND ALTERNATIVE DATE THAT IS WORK FOR YOU GUYS.
>> MY PHONE NUMBER AND CONTACT INFO WILL BE WITH THE SURVEY.
PLEASE DO NOT HESITATE TO REACH OUT.
WHILE I'M AVOIDING IN-PERSON MEETINGS ON A SYSTEM MOUNTAINIC BASIS.
IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE SURVEY OR NEED CLARIFICATION OF ANY SORT OR ADDITIONAL DETAILS ABOUT YOUR DISTRICT, I CAN GIVE THAT TO YOU WITHOUT INTERFERING WITH.
>> ITHINK DAVID'S PLAYING BY THE WALKING QUORUM.
>> YOU'LL BE GOVERNED BY THE SAME QUALITY.
WE'LL WANT TO A I VOID TALKING TO EACH OTHER ABOUT THE SURVEY, AND BE SURE TO ALWAYS DO AS YOU ARE USED TO DOING.
>> CAN YOU SAY THE ONES WE'RE REPRESENTING IN DALLAS COUNTY?
>> AT THE MOMENT, I'M DOING SOME CITIES.
THEY'RE NOT RIGHT HERE IN THE COUNTY.
THE CITY OF MCKINNEY IN COLLIN COUNTY UP NORTH, I'M GOING THE CITY OF FORT WORTH, I'M DOING TARRANT COUNTY NEXT DOOR.
BUT, I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER, USUALLY, I DO DALLAS ISD, HERE, AND I DO WORK FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS ON OCCASION.
EACH DECADE IN FACT OVER THE LAST THREE DECADES I'VE REPRESENTED THE CITY OF DALLAS, BUT WE DON'T DRAW FOR THEM.
THEY HAVE AN INDEPENDENT COMMISSION AND WE'RE TOTALLY DISASSOCIATED FROM THEM.
THE ONLY TIME I GET CALLED IN IS WHEN THE CITY COUNSEL GETS.
THEY'RE ON A DIFFERENT TIMELINE.
SO, I DON'T HAVE ANY, I DON'T THINK, I REPRESENT THE COUNTY, FOR EXAMPLE HERE, THIS CYCLE HERE IN TOWN.
>> RELATED BUT UNRELATED IN THE FIELD OF WORK THAT YOU'RE IN AND ALL, IN THE STATE OF TEXAS RIGHT NOW, ARE THERE ONE OR TWO POSSIBLY HIGHLY REFERRED TO IT DEMOTOGRAPHY?
>> AND OFTEN THE STATE ONE IS AVAILABLE AS WELL.
>> YEAH, BUT IF YOU NEED REFERENCES, I COULD GET YOU.
>> ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS RELATED TO THE REST OF THE ITEMS THAT WILL BE APPEARING? IF NOT, WE'LL CONCLUDE OUR COMMITTEE MEETING AT IT 5:00.
WE'RE ADJOURNED AT 5:00Â P.M.
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