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[Dallas County Community College Annual 2021 Virtual Male Summit]

[00:00:29]

>> GOOD MORNING, GOOD MORNING, GOOD MORNING, AND WELCOME TO THE 2021 DALLAS COLLEGE AND TEXAS A&M COMMERCE MALE SUMMIT.

WE ARE VERY EXCITED YOU HAVE DECIDED TO JOIN US THIS MORNING, I AM TIM MCDUFFY CO-COORDINATOR HERE AT DALLAS COLLEGE.

WE ARE SO GLAD YOU DECIDED TO JOIN US ON THIS MORNING.

VERY SPECIAL GUESTS WITH US TODAY.

I WOULD LIKE TO TURN OVER THE SHOW TO DR. TRACEY JOHNSON.

ASSOCIATE VICE CHANCELLOR FOR STUDENTS HEALTH AND WELLNESS.

DR. TRACEY SO GLAD TO SEE YOU HOW ARE YOU?

>> WONDERFUL.

I AM A MORNING BIRD UP SINCE 4:30 READY TO GO.

I WANT TO WELCOME EVERYONE TO OUR MALE SUMMIT.

WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT THE PROGRAMMING THAT WILL TAKE PLACE TODAY.

WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO GET INVOLVED, STAY INVOLVED.

ANYTHING WE CAN DO, PLEASE LET US KNOW BECAUSE WE ARE HERE TO SERVE YOU.

WE HAVE A PHENOMENAL LINE UP.

POWERFUL KEYNOTE SPEAKER IN DR. HILL.

I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE FOR COMING OUT AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS THAT MADE THIS POSSIBLE.

DR. HAGGERTY, DID YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING?

>> I WANT TO ECHO THE COMMENTS.

I UNDERSTAND OUR MALES OF COLOR ARE AN IMPORTANT FACTOR FOR CLASTIC SUCCESS IN REGARDS TO COMPLETION RATES, GRADUATE RATES.

THIS SUPPORT IS ENCOURAGED.

DR. HILL AGAIN I AM THANKFUL YOU ARE HERE.

YOU ARE GOING TO GIVE WORDS OF ENCOURAGEMENT AND REACH MANY, MANY STUDENTS EVEN THE SCHOLARS ATTENDING THEY'LL AGREE.

I AM APPRECIATIVE WITH THE PARTNERSHIP WE HAVE WITH TEXAS A&M COMMERCE.

THEY ARE CO-HOSTING.

I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU AS WELL.

I WISH YOU THE BEST.

BRAVO TO THE COORDINATORS OF THIS GREAT EVENT.

>> THANK YOU.

EVERYONE WE HAVE TO STEP AWAY FOR STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION.

WE ARE HERE IN SPIRIT AND ENJOY YOUR DAY.

>> THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.

THANK YOU DR. TRACEY AND DR. DEAN, WE ARE APPRECIATIVE OF LEADERSHIP.

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WITHOUT LEADERSHIP WE COULD NOT DO THIS.

WE ARE SO THANKFUL THEY TRUSTED TO PUT THIS SUMMIT ON WE ARE VERY EXCITED TO GET THIS GOING.

WE ARE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GET START.

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DR. HILL LEADING INTELLECTUAL VOICES.

HOST OF BT NEWS AND FORMER CONTRIBUTOR TO CNN.

AWARD WINNING JOURNALIST DR. HILL HAS RECEIVED AWARDS BLACK JOURNALIST GLAAD AND ACADEMY OF DIGITAL ARTS AND SCIENCES.

DR. HILL IS THE PROFESSOR OF MEDIA, CITIES AND SOLUTIONS AT TEMPLE UNIVERSITY.

PRIOR TO THAT HE HEALTH POSITIONS AT COLUMBIA AND MORE HOUSE COLLEGE.

SINCE HIS DAYS AS A YOUTH IN PHILADELPHIA HE HAS BEEN A SOCIAL JUSTICE ACTIVIST AND ORGANIZER.

FOUNDING BOARD MEMBER OF MY FIFTH.

DEVOTED TO EDUCATING YOUTH ABOUT LEGAL RIGHTS AND RESPONSIBILITIES.

ALSO A BOARD MEMBER AND ORGANIZER OF PHILADELPHIA STUDENT UNION.

DR. HILL ALSO WORKED CLOSELY WITH ACLU, DRUG REFORM PROJECT FOCUSSING ON DRUG INFORMANT POLICIES.

OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS, ACTIVELY WORKED ON CAMPAIGNS TO END DEATH PENALTY AND NUMEROUS POLITICAL PRISONERS.

EBONY MAGAZINE NAMED HIM MOST 100 MOST INFLUENTIAL BLACK LEADERS.

AUTHOR AND CO-AUTHOR OF WHOLE BOOKS.

POLITICS OF IDENTITY.

CLASSROOM AND SALE.

CONVERSATIONS ON BLACK LIVES IN AMERICA "NEW YORK TIMES" BEST SELLER "NOBODY." FERGUSON AND FLINT AND BEYOND.

PUBLISHED TWO EDITED BOOKS, MEDIA, LEARNING AND SIGHTS POSSIBLE AND SCHOOLING HIP HOP-BASED EDUCATION.

TRAINED AS ANTHROPOLOGIST OF EDUCATION, HOLDS PHD WITH DISTINCTION FROM UNIVERSITY OF PENNSYLVANIA.

FOCUSES ON INTERSECTIONS BETWEEN CULTURE, POLITICS AND EDUCATION IN THE UNITED STATES AND MIDEAST.

WE ARE SO VERY PROUD TO HAVE HIM WITH US ON THIS MORNING.

WITHOUT FURTHER ADIEU, THANK YOU AND HELP US ALMOST OUR KEYNOTE SPEAKER FOR THIS YEAR'S MALE SUMMIT DR. MARK LAMONTS HILL.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING WITH US ON THIS MORNING.

>> OH GOD, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU MY BROTHER.

THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO INVITED ME TO THIS EXTRAORDINARY EVENT.

WHAT DALLAS COLLEGE IS DOING IS NOTHING SHORT OF EXTRAORDINARY NO HAVE A -- AN EVENT THAT SPEAKS TO THE NEEDS, THE CONDITION, THE CIRCUMSTANCES, OF BLACK MEN IS SADLY RARE.

AND SPECIAL.

WHAT I LOVE ABOUT WHAT YOU ALL ARE DOING YOU ARE NOT MERELY FRAMING BLACK MEN AS SIGHTS OF TRAUMA AND SIGHTS OF PATHOLOGY AND SIGHTS OF RISK BUT SIGHTS OF PROMISE AND POSSIBLE, EXTRAORDINARY TALENT.

THESE ARE SCHOLARS IN OUR MIDST, ACHIEVERS IN OUR MIDST.

GIANTS IN OUR MIDST.

TO BE ABLE TO TALK TO THEM BRINGS ME GREAT JOY AND QUITE HUMBLING.

WHEN I THINK ABOUT WHAT AWANT TO TALK ABOUT WHEN I TALK TO YOUNG MEN, I ALWAYS TRY TO BEGIN FROM THE PLACE OF RADICAL HONESTY.

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RADICAL HONESTY.

THERE IS A WAY WHEN SPEAKERS COME TO SPEAK TO PEOPLE YOUNG PEOPLE TO GIVE THEM A WORD OR INSIGHT INTO HOW TO BE SUCCESSFUL, NAVIGATE STRATEGIES OF LIFE, THEY ALSO COME WITH A VICTORY NARRATIVE.

ALWAYS COME WITH A STORY ABOUT HOW THEY WERE SUCCESS AND IF YOU DO WHAT THEY DID, THEY CAN BE WHO YOU ARE.

I SEE VALUE IN THAT.

I UNDERSTAND THE VALUE OF GIVING PEOPLE MODELS OF SUCCESS.

PEOPLE NEED TO SEE THERE ARE GIANTS, HEROS, SUCCESS STORIES THEY KNOW IT IS POSSIBLE.

TOO OFTEN WHEN WE WALK INTO UNIVERSITIES, WE DON'T SEE BLACK MEN THAT LOOK LIKE US? WE DON'T SEE BLACK MEN, WE DON'T SEE THEM AS DIRECTOR OF THIS OR PROFESSOR OF THIS, PROVOST OF THAT.

HARD TO BELIEVE PEOPLE THAT CAME FROM OUR CIRCUMSTANCES AIN'T THERE.

FOR ME IT IS -- SHOWING IT IS POSSIBLE.

I AIN'T MAD AT THAT, HOWEVER THAT ISN'T THE PLACE FROM WHERE I WANT TO BEGIN.

I LIKE TO BEGIN FROM THE PLACE OF FAILURE.

I LIKE TO BEGIN FROM A PLACE OF CRISIS AND CONTRADICTION.

I LIKE TO BEGIN FROM WHERE IT STARTED FOR ME, MY JOURNEY OF QUOTE UNQUOTE SUCCESS DIDN'T BEGIN AT TEMPLE UNIVERSITY AS AN ENDOWED CHAIR PROFESSOR.

DIDN'T BEGIN WITH PHD, AWARDS.

IT BEGAN IN NORTH PHILLY.

LITTLE BLACK BOY.

TRYING TO FIGURE THE WORLD OUT LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE.

TRYING TO FIND JOY IN THE MIDST OF CHAOS.

FOR ME THAT JOY WAS BASKETBALL.

BY THE TIME I GOT TO HIGH SCHOOL BASKETBALL WAS MY LIFE AND LOVE.

IF YOU SAW ME, YOU SAW BASKETBALL.

IN HIGH SCHOOL, I MAJORED IN BASKETBALL.

MY GRADES SHOWED IT.

I GOT C'S AND D'S DURING BASKETBALL.

D'S AND F'S OVER.

SUMMER SCHOOL WAS MY SAVIOR.

I DID WHAT I NEEDED TO DO TO GET OUT.

I HAD NO CLEAR VISION OF WHAT I WANTED TO DO OTHER THAN BASKETBALL.

I WAS A DECENT PLAYER.

I WASN'T A GREAT PLAYER.

I HAD OFFERS, DIVISION THREE, LITTLE DIVISION TWO BASKETBALL OFFERS.

I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO WITH THEM.

PARENTS SAID YOU AIN'T GOING TO PLAY BASKETBALL IN COLLEGE YOU ARE GOING TO -- YOU CAN'T TAKE NO BASKETBALL SCHOLARSHIP.

I NEED YOU TO GO DO SOMETHING ELSE.

E ENROLLED IN MORE HOUSE COLLEGE IN ATLANTA, GEORGIA.

OH, FALL OF 1996.

SEE JASON, THAT IS -- [LAUGHTER] THAT IS WHY I SAID YOU SILLY YOUNG MAN.

AND I GOT THERE.

IT WAS BEAUTIFUL.

WONDERFUL.

I LOVED BEING AT MORE HOUSE THEN THERE WAS BASKETBALL TRYOUTS.

MY PARENTS SAID I COULDN'T TAKE A BASKETBALL SCHOLARSHIP THEY DIDN'T SAY I COULDN'T PLAY BASKETBALL.

I DECIDED TO TRY OUT FOR THE TEAM.

FIRST DAY 400 PEOPLE THERE.

NEXT DAY 200.

NEXT DAY 50.

NEXT DAY 20.

LAST DAY TWO OF US.

AND WE BATTLED IT OUT.

THEY TOLD ME ALL RIGHT, YOU CAN MAKE THE TEAM, YOU HAVE GOING TO HAVE TO RED SHIRT.

BASICALLY GET DRESSED FOR PRACTICE AND NOT PLAY IN THE GAMES FIRST YEAR.

I WENT THROUGH IT.

BASKETBALL WAS GOING WELL EXCEPT ME AND THE COACH DIDN'T GET ALONG.

WE SAW THE WORLD DIFFERENTLY.

MAJOR DIFFERENCE OF OPINION.

MAJOR PHILOSOPHICAL DIFFERENCE.

I THOUGHT I WAS GOOD.

HE DIDN'T.

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SO AS THE SEASON WENT ON, I REALIZED BASKETBALL WASN'T GOING TO WORK OUT FOR ME.

SO I DECIDED TO TOUGH OUT THE SEASON.

I CAME BACK SECOND YEAR.

NO BASKETBALL.

I REMEMBER SITTING IN INTROTO PSYCHOLOGY.

ADVANCED CLASS.

ABOUT TEN MINUTES IN THE CLASS I SAID TO MICE, YOU KNOW WHAT, I DON'T WANT TO DO THIS.

I DON'T HAVE BASKETBALL ANYMORE.

THAT IS REALLY ALL I WANTED TO DO.

THAT IS WHY I CAME TO COLLEGE.

GOT UP, WENT TO THE REGISTRAR'S OFFICE AND WITH DREW.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS BECAUSE OF THE 90S OR SMALL SCHOOL.

REJ STAR AND -- SURE YOU WANT TO DO THIS, I SAID YEAH.

THEY SAID FIRST DAY OF CLASS YOU GET A REFUND FOR YOUR TUITION.

IT WAS ABOUT, $5,000.

THEY SAID DO YOU WANT US TO MAIL THE CHECK HOME OR DO YOU WANT TO TAKE THE MONEY? I'LL TAKE IT.

THEY HANDED ME THE CHECK.

FASTEST CHECK DISBURSEMENT HBCU HISTORY.

THEY GAVE ME THE CHECK.

I TOOK IT.

NOW I AM OUT OF SCHOOL.

I AM IN ATLANTA.

I GOT $5,000 OF MY PARENT'S MONEY.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT I AM ABOUT TO DO WITH MY LIFE.

SO I SAID YOU KNOW WHAT, I NEED TO DO SOMETHING WITH THIS MONEY.

FIRST THING I DID I AM 18.

I WENT AND BOUGHT A CAR.

I WENT DOWN TO THE BUY HERE PAY HERE LOT IN ATLANTA.

I BOUGHT ME A -- THEY CALL BUY HERE PAY HERE, AIN'T NO BANK, AIN'T NO CREDIT PROCESS, BUBBA ON A CAR LOT WITH A SHOTGUN AND BUNCH OF CARS.

THAT DON'T WORK GOOD.

I GAVE HIM FOUR OF MY $5,000 AND MAKE A PAYMENT EVERY WEEK ON THE REST OF IT.

1994 BLUE GEO METRO.

THE CAR I THOUGHT HAD $80,000.

EARLY 1997.

TURNED OUT IT ACTUALLY HAD -- THOUGHT IT HAD 30,000, IT HAD 130,000.

ONCE IT WENT OVER 100.

STARTED OVER AGAIN.

CAR IS ABOUT THIS BIG.

HE BROUGHT IT OVER TO ME, SET IT DOWN.

I GOT IN IT.

YOU COULDN'T TELL ME NOTHING.

I HAD ME A CAR.

MARC, YOU ARE SMART, MATURE, YOU KNOW WHAT YOU NEED TO DO, YOU NEED TO GET YOU A CAREER.

I THOUGHT ABOUT ALL KINDS OF THINGS.

FIRST THOUGHT SELLING DRUGS QUITE HONESTLY.

MY COUSIN LOCKED UP, MY BROTHER ENDED UP BEING LOCKED UP FOR A DECADE ON DRUG CHARGES.

UNCLE LOCKED UP.

TWO COUSINS LIKED UP WITH POSSESSION.

MY FAMILY IS NOT GOOD AT NOT GETTING CAUGHT.

I AM GOING TO DO SOMETHING LEGAL.

I NEED A LEGAL HUSTLE.

I AM GOING TO SELL INCENSE.

I DON'T KNOW WHY I THOUGHT ABOUT INCENSE.

I WENT DOWN TO WESTERN ATLANTA AND BOUGHT $500 WORTH OF INCENSE I STUFFED THEM TO MY CAR AND GO UP TO LENOX MAIL TRAIN STATION AND SELL INCENSE.

I WOULD SELL BOOTLEG VIDEOS AND OLD SCHOOL.

WE HAD TO WALK IN THE MOVIE THEATRE WITH A BIG CAM CORDER.

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YOU WATCH PEOPLE WALKING BY AND EATING POPCORN.

PARENTS GOT ME AN APARTMENT AT THE BEGINNING OF MY SECOND YEAR.

HERE IS WHERE IT GETS INTERESTING.

YOUR PARENTS CAN GET PETTY SOMETIMES.

THEY DIDN'T WANT TO PAY MY RENT NO MORE.

TAKE IT OUT THE $5,000.

INCENSE GAME WAS GOOD.

BUT I COULDN'T AFFORD MY RENT.

MY LANDLORD GOT JUST AS PETTY.

AFTER YOU DON'T PAY THE RENT FOUR OR FIVE MONTHS THEY EVICTED ME.

NOW I AM LIVING IN THE GEO METRO.

WHICH ISN'T COMFORTABLE.

I WOULD SPEAK BACK INTO THE BOY'S HOUSE AT MORE HOUSE AND SHOWER.

I MISSED A COUPLE OF PAYMENTS, BUY HERE PAY HERE.

I NEVER FORGET PEACH TREE HOUSTON'S RESTAURANT.

I TURNED AROUND CAR GONE.

THEY REPOEED THE CAR.

I AM SLEEPING AT THE TRAIN STATION.

LENOX MALL TRAIN SAGS.

LITTLE BIT OF TIME GOES BY AND UM, SLEEPING ON THE CONCRETE.

I REMEMBER ONE NIGHT I FELT SOMETHING HITTING ME.

IN MY RIBS.

ELBOWING ME.

AND I IGNORED IT AT FIRST.

IT HIT ME HIT ME HIT ME.

I IGNORED IT.

FINALLY WOKE UP.

WHEN YOU ARE SLEEPING OUTSIDE YOU ARE USED TO GETTING HIT, ELBOWED, STUFF THROWN AT YOU.

I IGNORED IT UNTIL I DIDN'T.

I WOKE UP.

WHEN I DID, IT WAS THE BROTHER WHO ALSO SLEPT OUT THERE.

HE WAS A WAR VETERAN.

HE WOKE ME UP.

WHAT IS UP, MAN? ELBOWING ME IN MY RIBS HE SAID.

GET UP.

I SAID WHAT YOU WANT.

HE SAID YOU DON'T BELONG HERE.

IT IS AT THAT MOMENT I GOT THE STRATEGIES THAT HELPED ME.

THAT IS WHAT I WANT TO TALK TO YOU AWE ABOUT TODAY.

FIRST THING HE SAID WAS, YOU DON'T BELONG HERE.

YOU ARE TRYING TO LIVE A LIFE YOU AIN'T GOT TO LIVE AND BE SOMETHING YOU AIN'T GOT TO BE.

I HAVE TO BE HERE.

AS MUCH AS I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT.

I HAVE TO BE HERE.

SO WHAT DO I DO? I DROPPED OUT OF SCHOOL THAT IS WHY I AM HERE.

HE SAID WHO DID YOU TALK TO BEFORE YOU DROPPED OUT? I SAID NOBODY.

HE SAID YOU AIN'T ASK NOBODY BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT NOBODY TO TELL YOU NO.

TOOK ME A WHILE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT HE MEANT.

WHAT I BELIEVE HE MEANT, SOMETIMES WE DON'T SEEK WISE COUNSEL, WE DON'T LOOK FOR ADVICE, WE DON'T V FIND THE VOICE OF REASON BECAUSE WE AIN'T LOOKING FOR IT.

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IF YOU ARE TO BE SUCCESSFUL IF ACADEMIC WORLD OR PERSONAL LIFE, OR ANY OF THESE MOMENTS OF TENSION, CONTRADICTION, STRUGGLING TO MAKE A DECISION, WHERE YOUR IMPULSE, YOUR EMOTION, YOUR BODY AND MIND TELLING YOU TO DO ONE THING, YOU SHOULD LOOK FOR AN ALTERNATE VOICE.

THINK OF HOW MANY VOICES THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN DIFFERENT IF YOU WAITED A MINUTE.

THINK ABOUT THE TEXT MESSAGES YOU COULD HAVE UNSENT TWO MINUTES, E-MAIL YOU FIRED OFF YOU COULDN'T GET BACK.

THINK ABOUT THE WORDS YOU COULDN'T UNSAY.

THINK ABOUT THE DIDECISIONS YOU MADE YOU COULDN'T REVERSE.

LIFE IS ABOUT TAKING A MINUTE.

GREAT JOHN WOOTEN TALKED ABOUT DOING THINGS QUICKLY AND FAST.

WE DON'T DO THINGS FAST.

FAST IS HASTY.

FAST IS UNDISCIPLINED.

QUICKLY EFFICIENTLY AS WE CAN IN A RHYTHM AND DISCIPLINE AND COMES FROM SEEKING WISE COUNSEL.

WHILE YOU ARE AT DALLAS COLLEGE FIND SOMEBODY YOU CAN LISTEN TO.

SOMETIMES IT IS A MENTOR.

SOMETIMES IT IS A PEER MENTOR.

SOMETIMES IT IS A TEACHER, ADVISER, COMMUNITY MEMBER.

LOOK FOR THE PERSON WHO CAN GIVE YOU GOOD ADVISE BEFORE YOU MAKE THE DECISION.

YOU MIGHT BE RIGHT.

YOU RIGHT YOU'LL STILL BE RIGHT 10 MINUTES OR 10 DAYS LATER.

IF I HAD TALKED ABOUT TO ONE PERSON ON THE WAY TO THE REGISTRAR'S OFFICE I WOULDN'T HAVE LEFT.

HE SAID, WHO DO YOU WANT TO BE? I SAID WHAT YOU MEAN? WHAT WERE YOU GOING TO SCHOOL FOR? I SAID I WAS PLAYING BASKETBALL.

THERE IS OTHER STUFF I WANT TO DO BUT I DON'T KNOW.

HE SAID YOU SHOULD BE YOURSELF.

I SAID WHO AM I? SWEAR TO GOD WHO AM I? HE SAID FOOL IF YOU DON'T KNOW, I CAN'T TELL YOU.

WHO AM I IS A QUESTION WE ARE GOING TO ASK OURSELVES FROM THE DAY WE CATCH SENSE IN THE SOUTH UNTIL THE DAY WE PASS AWAY.

WHO AM I? FILL SOS CALL -- PHILOSOPHICAL QUESTION.

IF YOU ARE GOING TO NAVIGATE SCHOOL, SOCIETY, WHEN IT COMES TO BLACK MEN SO MUCH OF WHO WE ARE IS SHAPED BY WHAT THE OUTSIDE WORLD TELLS US WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE.

OUTSIDE WORLD TELLS US WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE ANGRY, UNEMOTIONAL.

OTHER THAN ANGER.

TELLS US WE ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE VULNERABLE, POETS, SIGHTS OF JOY.

OUTSIDE WORLD TELLS US WE ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO HURT.

OUTSIDE WORLD TELLS US WE ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE INTELLECTUALS.

TELLS US WHAT WE ARE NOT.

ULTIMATELY, WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE ARE.

EVERY TIME YOU NAVIGATE SPACES OF SCHOOL.

SCHOOLS ARE SIGHTS OF SUFFERING, WHITE SUPREMACY, MISERY FROM KINDERGARTEN TO 12TH GRADE.

WHAT YOU CAN'T DO.

THEY TELL YOU YOU ARE AT RISK, STRUGGLING, SUSPENDED YOU CAN'T DO MATH.

TELL YOU TO FOCUS ON SPORTS NOT IDEAS.

THEY CONTROL OUR BODIES AND MINDS.

TELL US WHAT WE ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO DO AND BE.

WE SPEND SO MUCH TIME BEING SHAPED BY THE OUTSIDE WORLD AND NEVER FIGURE OUT WHO I

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WANT TO BE? WHO AM I? WHO ARE MY TALENTS, MY GIFTS? AS YOU NAVIGATE THE SCHOOL THING, TAKE A SECOND TO KEEP AT ARM'S LENGTH WHAT THE WORLD IS TELLING YOU WHAT YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE.

FIND OUT WHAT GIVES YOU PASSION AND WAKES YOU UP.

I DON'T WANT FIVE YEARS FROM NOW YOU ARE SELLING INCENSE.

YOU NEED TO GET A JOB.

YOU HAVE TO MAKE SACRIFICES, PURSUE YOUR DREAM, YOUR PASSION.

PURSUE WHAT IS INSIDE.

IT IS NOT JUST ABOUT THE PROFESSIONIZATION PROCESS.

FIGURING OUT WHO YOU ARE IS TAPPING INTO THE THINGS BLACK MEN ARE TAUGHT TO BE ESTRANGED FROM.

TAP INTO YOUR IDEAS, YOUR EMOTIONS.

WE ARE TAUGHT WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO BE VULNERABLE.

WE ARE TAUGHT WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO SAY I MISS YOU OR I LOVE YOU.

WE ARE TAUGHT OUR ONLY LEGIBLE EMOTION CAN BE ANGER.

WE ARE TAUGHT TO USE OUR PHYSICALITY NOT OUR EMOTIONALITY.

WE ARE TAUGHT TO WAR WITH EACH OTHER.

INSTEAD OF TURNING TO EACH OTHER.

WE ARE TAUGHT THE ONLY APPROPRIATE MASCULINITY IS HYPERSEXUALITY, MISOGYNY, HOMOPHOBIA.

WE HAVE TO FIND OURSELVES.

ANY WAY, I SAID TO HIM, I DON'T KNOW WHO I AM.

I THINK I WANT TO BE A PROFESSOR.

THINK I WANT TO BE A PROFESSOR.

HE SAID THEN BE A PROFESSOR.

MAN I CAN'T BE NO PROFESSOR.

IT IS TOO LATE I AM OLD NOW.

I AM 19.

I DONE DROPPED OUT.

IT WILL PROBABLY TAKE ME ANOTHER 10 YEARS TO DO ALL THAT.

I HAVE TO GO BACK TO UNDERGRAD, MASTERS, PHD.

IT IS GOING TO TAKE ME 10 YEARS FROM NOW.

YOU KNOW WHAT HE SAID TO ME.

DUMMY, 10 YEARS GOING TO GO BY ANY WAY.

YOU JUST AIN'T GOING TO HAVE A PHD.

I SAID -- I AM GOING TO BE HONEST, THERE WASN'T ON THE STREET.

THERE WASN'T A WHOLE LOT OF PROPER LANGUAGE.

HE WAS RIGHT! TEN YEARS WAS GOING TO GO BY ANYONE.

TECHNOLOGY SO AVAILABLE, EVERYTHING HAPPENS FAST.

I AM OLD ENOUGH, I AM PREINTERNET.

I AM PRETWITTER, PRESOCIAL MEDIA.

WE USED TO HAVE PEN PALS.

YOU WRITE SOMEBODY A LETTER IN SEPTEMBER GET A NOTE BACK IN NOVEMBER SALLY IN IOWA.

I LIKE ICE CREAM, TOO.

NOW Y'ALL ARE COMMUNICATING SHARING MUSIC, IDEAS, BROADCASTING TELEVISION SHOWS, NARRATING YOUR LIFE THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA.

EVERYTHING HAPPENS FAST.

REVOLUTION TECHNOLOGY AND SPEED AND MISS OUT ON REVOLUTIONARY PATIENCE.

REVOLUTIONARY PATIENCE.

YOUR DREAMS ARE WORTH WAITING FOR, FIGHTING FOR.

SOME OF YOU OUT THERE, I WANT TO DO THIS PROGRAM, I AM ABOUT TO SPEND AN EXTRA YEAR.

SOME OF Y'ALL WANT TO DO A FIVE YEAR.

SEVEN YEARS GOING TO HAPPEN YOU JUST AIN'T GOING TO BE A LAWYER, EIGHT YEARS WILL GO BUT YOU WON'T HAVE FINISHED MED SCHOOL.

ONE DAY YOU 28, NEXT DAY 38.

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ONLY THING DIFFERENTLY FROM YOU AND THOSE THAT WAITED THEY HAVE THEIR DREAMS. I UNDERSTAND URGENCY.

THINK ABOUT HOW QUICKLY THIS SCHOOL YEAR WENT BY.

YOU WERE PROBABLY SITTING ON ZOOM A YEAR AGO LIKE THIS DURING A PANDEMIC.

DON'T GET SLOWER FAMILY, GETS FASTER.

DON'T LET TIME BE THE REASON YOU DON'T DO THINGS.

TIME AND PATIENCE IT TAKES TO GET A FANCY DEGREE IS NOTHING IN THE FACE OF WHAT YOUR ANCESTORS DID TO GET YOU FREE.

THINK ABOUT WHAT IT MEANS TO WORK YOUR ENTIRE LIFE TO HIDE TO READ THE BIBLE TO HIDE TO READ A BOOK, DAVID WALKER'S APPEAL.

TO HIDE TO ORGANIZE, FEED AND WASH CLOTHES, STRUGGLE, SACRIFICE TO PRODUCE A WORLD THEY WOULDN'T EVEN SEE.

THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IN 10, 20, 50 YEARS SO THEIR CHILDREN'S CHILDREN COULD BE FREE.

SO THEIR CHILDREN'S CHILDREN, CHILDREN COULD BE AT SCHOOL AND GET THE OPPORTUNITIES, THE FAK SIGHSES THEY MADE.

PATIENTS THEY DISPLAYED, DISCIPLINE THEY EXPRESS IS EXTRAORDINARY.

ALL I AM ASKING YOU TO DO IS BE PATIENT AND FINISH YOUR PROGRAM.

BE PATIENT AND FOLLOW YOUR DREAMS. BE PATIENT.

BE PATIENT, BE PATIENT.

I SAID TO HIM, YOU DONE CONVINCED ME.

I AM GOING TO GO BACK TO SCHOOL.

HE SAID, OKAY.

I SAID I JUST WHAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO LAUGH AND SAY I TOLD YOU SO? HE SAID I AM GOING TO TELL -- LET'S JUST SAY HE SAID FORGOT THEM.

I SAID, HE SAID THOSE PEOPLE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT YOU BECAUSE THEY THINK YOU CAN'T DO IT.

HE SAID THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT YOU BECAUSE THEY KNOW YOU CAN.

Y'ALL GENERATION HAS SORT OF ENCOMPASSED, CREATED THE TERM "HATER." NOT JEALOUSY RIGHT.

THAT IS SOMETHING ELSE.

JEALOUSY IS LIKE YOU HAVE THIS THING AND I WISH I HAD.

ALPHAS WHICH THEY WERE KAPPAS.

THAT IS JEALOUSY.

THE HATER IS SOMEBODY WHO IS ACTUALLY UNHAPPY WITH YOUR SUCCESS INDEPENDENT OF THEIR OWN EVEN IF THEY GOT IT THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO HAVE IT.

EVEN IF THEY DON'T WANT IT, THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO HAVE IT.

SO THERE IS AN INTERPERSONAL PEACE.

PEOPLE SEE YOUR TALENTS, THEY SAY OH, UGH, UGH, UGH.

IT IS LIKE WHEN SOMEBODY WALK IN THE ROOM, SHE THINK SHE CUTE.

THEY DON'T SAY THAT ABOUT UGLY PEOPLE.

THEY ONLY SAY IF THEY ACTUALLY THINK YOU CUTE.

THAT IS WHY YOU TALKING.

THERE IS A WAY THAT THE WORLD WILL TRY TO EXTINGUISH THE FIRE IN YOU BEFORE YOU CAN RECOGNIZE IT IN YOURSELF.

I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT AT THE INTERPERSONAL LEVEL, I AM SPEAKING AT THE STRUCTURAL LEVEL.

BLACK FOLKS HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THINGS.

THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO CHANGE THE WORLD, TO CREATE THIS COUNTRY ON OUR BACKS.

WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO ADVANCE MATHEMATICS.

WE HAVE HAD THE ABILITY TO CREATE, SHAPE, CONSCIENCE OF THIS NATION AT THE SAME TIME.

VERY MOMENT THIS COUNTRY DEPENDENTING ON BLACK PEOPLE THEY WERE TRYING TO MARGINALIZE THEM.

THEY WILL RECOGNIZE YOUR GIFTS AND EXPLOIT THEM.

THEY WILL CALL YOU LAZY AND MAKE YOU SLAVES.

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UNCIVILIZED AND MAKE YOU RAISE THEIR CHILDREN AND SAY YOU ARE DIRTY AND MAKE YOU CLEAN THEIR HOUSES.

THEY KNOW WHO YOU ARE.

THEY HAVE ALWAYS KNOWN.

THEY HAVE ALWAYS KNOWN.

WE NEED YOU TO KNOW.

WE NEED YOU TO KNOW.

THE MOMENT YOU RECOGNIZE WHO YOU ARE, AND WHAT YOU ARE AND WHAT THOSE GIFTS ARE WHOO! AIN'T NOTHING STOPPING Y'ALL FAMILY.

I TURN TO MY MAN AND SAY WHAT DO I DO NOW? HE SAID GO HOME.

I SAID I CAN'T GO HOME I DONE KEPT ALL THIS MONEY.

AND EMBARRASSED MYSELF.

CAN'T GO HOME.

HE SAID I RECKON YOU CAN.

EVEN IF YOU CAN'T, YOU HAVE TO FIND ONE.

HOW CAN I FIND ONE.

A HOME IS THEN I FIGURED IT OUT.

I AIN'T FIGURED OUT THAT MOMENT.

I FIGURED IT OUT.

JAMES BALDWIN SAID PERHAPS HOME IS NOT A PLACE BUT RATHER IRREVOCABLE CONDITION.

HOME MIGHT BE WHERE YOUR MOMMA AND THEM STAY.

HOME MIGHT BE WHERE YOU WERE RAISED.

HOME MIGHT BE WHERE YOU GET THE LOVE YOU NEEDED.

I WAS ABLE TO GO BACK HOME.

NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE LOVE OF A BLACK MOTHER.

BUT SOME OF YOU GREW UP IN A PLACE THAT NEVER FELT LIKE HOME.

SOME OF Y'ALL LIVED IN 13 HOUSES AIN'T FOUND A HOME YET.

HOME IS NOT ABOUT THE BUILDING.

HOME IS NOT A PLACE.

IT IS A SPACE.

I AIN'T TALKING ABOUT THE SPACE.

LUTHER SAY A HOUSE IS NOT A HOME SHOUT OTTO LUTHER VAN DROESZ BORN APRIL 20TH.

WHAT HE WAS TRYING TO TELL US IS THAT HOME IS WHERE YOU ARE LOVED.

HOME IS WHERE YOU ARE SUPPORTED WHERE YOU CAN BE YOURSELF, FIND YOUR IDENTITY.

AT ALL MOMENTS YOU HAVE TO FIND HOME.

AS YOU NAVIGATE THIS INSTITUTION.

SOME OF YOU NEED TO FIND THE ADVISER THAT MAKES HOME.

SOME OF YOU NEED TO FIND A PROCESSOR THAT IS HOME.

SOME OF YOU NEED TO FIND ALLIES FOR MY QUEER BROTHERS AND SISTER.

SOME OF YOU HOME MIGHT BE THE CHURCH, SOME OF YOU THOSE ARE THE PLACES OF THE VIOLENCE.

YOU HAVE TO FIND HOME WHERE YOU ARE LOVED AND CARED FOR.

WHERE YOU CAN GET GOOD LOVE.

HOME IS WHERE YOU GET SUPPORTED.

HOME IS WHERE YOU FIND YOUR IDENTITY.

IF YOU FEEL LIKE YOU DON'T FIT IF YOU ARE NAVIGATING YOUR RELATIONSHIP AND DON'T FIT, YOU NEED TO GO SOME WHERE ELSE AND FIND A HOME.

I WENT HOME AND WENT BACK TO SCHOOL AND GRADUATED.

WENT AND GOT MY PHD.

THEN I REMEMBER 2015 I GOT A PHONE CALL.

PRESIDENT OF MOREHOUSE COLLEGE.

CALLED ME AND SAID DR. HILL, WE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE YOU AN OFFER.

I SAID YOU WANT ME TO COME SPEAK.

HE SAID NO.

WE WANT YOU TO COME BACK.

I SAID COME BACK WHERE? THIS IS 18 YEARS AFTER I DROPPED OUT AT THE AGE OF 18.

COME BACK WHERE? HOME.

WE WANT YOU TO BE A PROFESSOR.

HERE AT MOREHOUSE.

I SAID I COULDN'T BELIEVE IT.

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I WAS ABLE TO CHANGE WHAT I THOUGHT WAS UNCHANGEABLE.

I WAS ABLE TO BE SOMETHING I THOUGHT I COULD BE.

EVERYBODY'S LIFE AIN'T GOING TO END THAT WAY, I KNOW FOR SURE I WAS ABLE TO FIND HOME.

I WAS ABLE TO FIND MY JOY.

I WAS ABLE TO FIND MY PURPOSE.

I AM STILL STRUGGLING.

I AM STILL FAILING.

I AM STILL MAKING BAD CHOICES.

I AM STILL THAT YOUNG STUBBURN CONFUSED BY ON THE CONCRETE.

I AM GETTING BETTER EVERYDAY SO WILL YOU.

KEEP FIGHTING, STRUGGLING, LOVING.

WE'LL GET THERE TOGETHER, PEACE.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH DR. MARC LAMONT HILL.

YOU HAVE DEFINITELY GIVEN ME ENCOURAGEMENT.

THIS IS REVELATORY FOR ME, THE WORDS, KEY WORDS, PATIENCE.

BEING ABLE TO REALIZE THAT YOU MAY NOT HAVE IT NOW, RIGHT, BUT PATIENCE AND TAKING TO ACCOMPLISH GOALS STEP TO MEETING THE GOAL.

HAVING PATIENCE IS KEY.

OTHER PEACE WHEN YOU ARE TALKING, I THOUGHT ABOUT THE PRODIGAL SUN IN THE BIBLE.

HOW THAT SUN WAS GIVEN HIS PORTION AND WENT OUT INTO THE WORLD AND SQUANDERED HIS PORTION AND WOUND UP IN THE PIG PEN EATING SLOP.

SOMETHING SAID GET UP AND GO HOME.

WHEN HE REALIZED HE GOT HOME, HIS FATHER KILLED A COW, PUT A ROBE ON, GAVE HIM A RING AND ABLE TO GET HIM TO COME BACK HOME.

EVERYONE HAS A PLACE SOME WHERE WHERE YOU CONSIDER HOME.

WE FEEL AS THOUGH WE CAN'T GO BACK HOME BECAUSE WE SCREWED UP SO BAD.

SOMETIMES THAT IS BECAUSE WE NEED TO BE WELCOME WITH OPEN ARMS. NOTHING LIKE A MOTHER'S LIFE.

THEY WILL FOLLOW YOU ALL THE WAY TO THE JAILHOUSE TO SUPPORT YOU.

NOTHING LIKE A MOTHER'S LOVE.

THAT SPOKE VOLUMES TO ME.

YOU CAN RETURN FROM THIS.

WE HAVE A SESSION TODAY CALLED TELLING THE DETOURS OF LIFE.

THROUGH LIFE WE HAVE CHALLENGES THAT MAY HINDER US OR PUT A PIN IN THAT MOMENT.

IT IS NOT AN END TO EVERYTHING.

BEING ABLE TO MAKE THOSE DETOURS, I HOPE FOLKS WILL COME WITH US.

I WANT TO TURN IT OVER.

BROTHERS?

>> YES.

WE THANK YOU FOR THOSE STRONG WORDS OF ENCOURAGEMENT.

WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU REACHING OUT AND TALKING.

IF ANYBODY HAS QUESTIONS ON THERE IF Y'ALL WANT DR. HILL TO ASK QUESTIONS, DCMALES@-- WHAT ADVISE WOULD YOU GIVE THIS YOUNGER GENERATION ON IMPORTANCE OF EDUCATION? SO MANY DISTRACTIONS, SO MUCH GOING ON.

I CAN DO THIS, THIS, THIS.

EDUCATION PIECE, WHY IS THAT SO IMPORTANT TO MEN OF COLOR? SO IMPORTANT.

I MAKE DISTINCTION BETWEEN EDUCATION AND SCHOOL.

EDUCATION, NO FIELD YOU CAN GO INTO.

I DON'T KNOW ANYONE EXTRAORDINARILY TALENTED AT ANYTHING WHO HASN'T EDUCATED HIMSELF WHO WASN'T TRULY SUCCESS.

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I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE WHO ARE PRIVILEGED.

ALTHOUGH I SUSPECT YOU AIN'T GOING TO KEEP IT IF YOU DON'T HAVE SO MUCH EDUCATION.

EDUCATION IS FIGURING OUT WHO YOU WANT TO BE.

THEY HELP GREAT WHO I AM HELPED SHAPE MY IDENTITY.

THEY HELPED ME FIGURE OUT MY PASSIONS, MY IDENTITY.

I CAN ONLY DO THAT THROUGH EDUCATION.

I DON'T CARE IF YOU WANT TO BE A RAPPER, BASKETBALL PLAYER, YOU NEED TO BE EDUCATED.

ALSO A WAY A DEEPER AND MORE EXPANSIVE EDUCATION WILL HELP YOU BE GOOD AT THE THING YOU WANT TO DO BUT HELP YOU AGREE AND PROTECT.

FOR EXAMPLE, YOU MAY NOT BE INTO FINANCE, YOU SHOULD HAVE ENOUGH FINANCIAL LITERACY.

I AM TALKING ABOUT BEING ABLE TO PROTECT YOURSELF MAKE GOOD CHOICES.

A SENSE OF HISTORY SO YOU UNDERSTAND HOW TO BE AN EDUCATED VOTER.

THERE IS ALL OF THAT AND QUESTION OF SCHOOLING.

THERE ARE TIMES WHERE SCHOOLING HASN'T BEEN SO GOOD.

CERTAIN TIMES OF SCHOOLING ISN'T THE ONLY WAY TO GO.

AS BLACK FOLK, ASSUMPTION WE DON'T HAVE THE TRAINING ANDS DISCIPLINE.

A LOT OF TIMES HAVING SCHOOLING, DEGREE IS NECESSARY NOT JUST TO GET THE EDUCATION WHICH IS KEY ALSO TO NAVIGATE THE WORLD.

I COULD READ A BUNCH OF BOOKS.

CONCRETE EXAMPLE FINISHED WRITING A BOOM "EXCEPT FOR PALESTINE." LIMITS OF PROGRESSIVE POLITICS.

I WROTE IT WITH MY FRIEND AND BROTHER.

I HAVE BEEN STUDYING MIDDLE EAST.

WHAT Y'ALL SEE IN THE BACKGROUND IS ONE-TWENTIETH OF THE BOOKS.

ON TOP OF A MILLION ARTICLES.

PRESUMPTION AS A BLACK PERSON I CAN'T KNOW THAT.

BLACK FOLK DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE MIDDLEST.

MADE ME UNDERSTAND THINGS I WANT TO KNOW ABOUT.

THERE IS A WAY THAT I NEEDED SCHOOLING.

EVEN THOUGH I DID ALL OF THAT.

WHEN I WAS ON CNN YOU CAN'T TALK ABOUT FOREIGN POLICY.

Y'ALL DIDN'T ASK ME WHEN I WAS TALKING ABOUT RACE.

PLENTY OF FOLKS TALKING ABOUT POLITICS, SUDDENLY, I NEED CREDENTIALS.

I WENT AND GOT GRADUATE DEGREE IN MIDEAST STUDIES.

I GOT TO LEARN AND READ MORE.

ALSO, ALSO, WHEN THEY COME FOR ME NOW, I GOT THIS DEGREE, WHERE IS YOURS? THE EDUCATION, SCHOOLING PART OF IT OF THE EDUCATION BECAME INCREDIBLY CRITICAL.

YEAH.

>> APPRECIATE THAT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY QUESTIONS AS OF RIGHT NOW.

JASON.

>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TALK.

ASKING MORE SO ABOUT YOUR STORY AND HOW CAPTIVATING IT WAS TO FIGURE OUT ABOUT THE MAN AT THE TRAIN STATION, ARE YOU ALL STILL CONNECTED?

>> I GET THAT A LOT.

I WENT BACK TO ATLANTA EVEN THE NEXT YEAR JUST GOING BACK.

I WENT TO LENOX MALL AND DIDN'T SEE HIM.

I HAVE GONE BACK A FEW TIMES SINCE FAIRLY CONFIDENT I WOULDN'T SEE HIM AND DIDN'T.

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SO NO, THAT CONVERSATION WAS THE LAST TIME I EVER SAW HIM.

OFTEN WONDER HOW HE IS DOING.

WONDER IF HE IS ALIVE.

BUT I DON'T KNOW.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THE WAY THE UNIVERSE WORKS, SOMETIMES THEY ARE IN YOUR LIFE FOR A MOMENT.

AGAIN THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WHAT YOU ARE DOING FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

>> THANK YOU MY BROTHER.

>> I WOULD EVEN DARE TO SAY THAT WAS AN ANGEL SPEAKING TO YOU, BROTHER HILL.

ANGELS AMONG US TO GIVE US WORDS OF ENCOURAGEMENT AND KEEP US GOING.

ALWAYS AMAZING HOW WE CAN GET WORDS FROM THE PEOPLE WE LEAST EXPECT TO ENCOURAGE US TO EMPOWER US.

DOESN'T ALWAYS HAVE TO COME FROM A PASTOR OR MENTOR.

SOMETIMES IT CAN BE THE YOUNG KID ON THE BLOCK WHO THE ALL MIGHTY CAN USE TO ENCOURAGE YOU.

I WOULD CONSIDER HIM AN ANGEL.

>> I THINK YOU MIGHT BE RIGHT.

I OFTEN THINK ABOUT THAT IN THAT WAY.

YOU KNOW, WHETHER DEPENDING ON HOW YOU THINK ABOUT ANGELS OR OTHER THINGS, BASED ON SPIRITUAL TRADITIONS.

IDEA REGARDLESS HE WAS ABLE TO INTERVENE IN MY LIFE AND SERVE A PURPOSE I COULD NEVER HAVE IMAGINED OTHERWISE.

>> WE DO HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION.

DR. HILL, WHAT ARE WAYS YOU STAY IN CHARACTER MOTIVATED TO INSPIRE OTHER PEOPLE? OUR PEOPLE.

ALSO EXPERIENCING TRAUMA OF SO MANY INJUSTICES SUCH AS GEORGE FLOYD.

>> IT IS HARD SOME DAYS.

SO MUCH PAIN.

WE TAKE SO MANY HITS.

BUT I HAVE A FUNDAMENTAL AND ABIDING FAITH IN PEOPLE THAT NEVER WANES.

I HAVE FAITH IN OUR ABILITY TO FIGHT.

WATCHING GEORGE FLOYD AND BREONNA TAYLOR AND HOW THEIR PLACES PLAY OUT DEEPLY PAINFUL.

I SEE SO MUCH PROMISE DESPITE THAT, DR. KING APRIL OF '68 SAID "ONLY WHEN IT IS DARKEST, CAN WE SEE THE STARS." YOU CAN SEE THE DEATH OF GEORGE FLOYD AS DARKNESS.

THE STAR IS THE MOVEMENT THAT HAPPENED IN THE STREETS AFTERWARD.

THE STAR IS A REAL RADICAL CONVERSATION ABOUT DEFUNDING ABOLITION THAT EMERGED POST.

THE STAR IS AFTER BREONNA TAYLOR IS KILLED WE SEE A BAN ON NO-KNOCK WARRANTS.

I WOULD RATHER HAVE BREONNA TAYLOR AND GEORGE FLOYD.

THAT IS THE ONLY WAY TO GET JUSTICE.

WE CAN GET ACCOUNTABILITY.

WE CAN MOVE A RADICAL AGENDA FORWARD.

EVEN AT OUR WORST MOMENTS BLACK FOLK NEVER STOP RESISTING.

SOMETIMES WE THRIVE.

>> THANK YOU FOR THAT, DOCTOR.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, BROTHER GAY, BROTHER KAYSON?

>> WE DO HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION, WHO ARE SOME MENTORS THAT HAVE INSPIRED YOU THROUGHOUT YOUR LIFE?

>> I HAVE BEEN BLESSED WITH SO MANY.

MICHAEL ERIC DISON.

CORNELL WEST.

DR. GUNNER.

ANGLO DAVIS.

I AM BLESSED TO CALL THESE PEOPLE FRIENDS AND COLLEAGUES, BUT FIRST THEY

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ARE ALL MENTORS, HEROS OF MINE.

I COULDN'T BE MORE GRATEFUL FOR THEM.

>> CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF HAVING A MENTOR?

>> YEAH, I ALWAYS TELL YOUNG PEOPLE, YOU ARE GOING TO MAKE MISTAKES, MAKE SOME NEW ONES.

IF AFTER GIVING THIS TALK Y'ALL ARE OUT THERE SELLING INCENSE, I WOULD BE MAD.

MENTORS ALLOW YOU TO MAKE NEW MISTAKES AND LEARN THEIR LESSONS.

MENTORS HELP YOU SHAPE AND DIRECT YOUR LIFE IN WAYS THAT ARE HELPFUL.

MENTORS ARE SIGNS OF POSSIBLE.

WHEN I WATCHED MICHAEL DISON SPEAK OR WHEN I SAW ANGELA DAVIS DO RADICAL WORK AND STILL BE A SCHOLAR.

I WAS LIKE THIS IS POSSIBLE.

IT MADE ME THINK THAT IS POSSIBLE.

REACH OUT AND FIND MENTORS.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT.

I ALWAYS BELIEVED IN ORDER TO GET TO YOUR NEXT LEVEL.

IF YOU AREN'T HANGING WITH SOMEONE THAT HAS MORE THAN WHAT YOU HAVE, DEGREES, INFLUENCE.

THEN WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO ASPIRE TO? I BELIEVE EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE A MENTOR NO MATTER WHAT STAGE OF LIFE YOU ARE IN.

YOU NEED SOMEONE TO SPEAK INTO YOUR LIFE, SHARPEN YOUR IRON AND TELL YOU WHEN YOU ARE RIGHT AND WRONG AND WHEN YOU ARE ABOUT TO MAKE A MISTAKE.

BIG BELIEVER IN MENTORSHIP.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT.

ANY OTHER REMARKS.

>> THIS IS FROM A STUDENT HERE AS DALLAS COLLEGE, I WILL SOON TURN 21 ANY SUGGESTIONS ALSO HISASHI -- HISPANIC.

HE SAID HE NOTICED YOU LOST YOUR HOOD LINGO.

EXTREMELY HARD TO LET GO OF HIS OLD LIFE?

>> DEPARTMENTS ON WHAT YOU MEAN BY OLD LIFE.

THERE IS A MENTALITY THAT PREVAILS TOO OFTEN, TO BE SUCCESSFUL WE HAVE TO LOSE THE THINGS THAT MADE US.

YOU ABSOLUTELY CAN HOLD ON TO YOUR LANGUAGE, YOUR COMMUNITY, YOUR NETWORK OF FRIENDS, CIRCLES.

I THINK THAT IS THE BEAUTY.

I THINK TOO OFTEN WE TELL THIS NARRATIVE, I AM GETTING RICH AND GET OUT OF THE HOOD.

MY GOAL WAS TO STAY IN THE HOOD BUT HELP BE A RESOURCE IN IT.

AND SO, AS YOU TURN 21, YOU ARE GOING TO GROW GOAL SHOULDN'T BE TO ABANDON -- SOME OF IT BEING OUT OF YOUR CIRCUMSTANCE LEAVE STUFF BEHIND.

I DIDN'T TELL Y'ALL THE WHOLE STORY FROM ATLANTA.

A BUNCH OF STUFF I HAD TO DO TO SURVIVE I WOULDN'T DO NOW.

THERE IS A WAY THAT YOU HAVE TO AS THEY SAY PUT THE FORMAL THINGS AWAY.

BECAUSE THE MORE KNOWLEDGE YOU GET THE MORE ANALYSIS YOU ARE CAPABLE OF ENGAGING, MORE WE RECOGNIZE THE HARM WE DO WHEN WE DON'T -- SELLING DOPE, FOR EXAMPLE.

FOR THOSE THAT SELL OR SOLD DOPE, THERE IS A HARM THAT COMES WITH THAT.

THERE IS A WAY WE ARE FORCED TO MAKE DESPERATE CHOICES.

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I CAN MAKE A DIFFERENT CHOICE.

THERE IS A NATURAL THING THAT HAPPENS THAT WILL CONTINUE TO HAPPEN IN YOUR LIFE AS YOU MAKE DIFFERENT CHOICES CIRCLES WILL SHIFT AND SPAN AN CHANGE.

WHEN I GET MY HAIR CUT, THERE ARE PEOPLE ONLY SEEN A BARBERSHOP.

THEY GOT INTO SOMETHING I WOULD SUPPORT THEM.

WE ARE NOT NECESSARILY KICKING ON SATURDAY NIGHT.

OUR CIRCLES ARE DIFFERENT WE HAVE DIFFERENT INTERESTS.

OUR LIVES ARE DIFFERENT.

SOMETIMES THEY GET INTO STUFF I DON'T WANT TO GET.

I DON'T WANT TO FIGHT.

I DON'T GO OUT TO FIGHT.

I CAN FIGHT.

I DON'T WANT TO.

NOT AS A PLAN.

THAT IS WHAT THEY DID.

I HAD TO MAKE A DIFFERENT CHOICE.

THERE ARE THINGS THAT FOLK DO.

YOU ARE GOING TO LOOK AT STUFF AT 21 AND 25.

THAT IS NOT WHAT I AM INTO.

THERE ARE CATS FIVE YEARS LATER DOING THE EXACT SAME THING.

I AM NOT JUDGING THEM.

YOU MAY NOT BE INTERESTED.

SOME PROGRESSION NATURALLY BASED ON WHAT YOU CARE ABOUT.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH, DR. HILL.

WE ARE DONE WITH OUR LAST QUESTION.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, EVERYONE WHO JOINED US FOR THE OPENING SESSION WITH OUR KEYNOTE SPEAKER DR. HILL.

SEVERAL BREAK OUT SESSIONS IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING THIS.

WE ENCOURAGE YOU TO JOIN US FOR OUR FIRST SESSION WITH FOUNDATIONS OF LEADERSHIP AND THAT WILL BE FACILITATED BY AC CASTALIES.

AFTER THAT WE WILL HAVE DETOURS OF LIFE WITH BROTHER CURTIS LEAVE DISCOVERING SECRETS TO OVERCOMING OBSTACLES, FOURTH SESSION IMAGE, YOUR BRAND BROTHER JACK DUFFY.

WAYS TO IMPROVE COMPONENTS OF YOUR IMAGE.

GIVES PEOPLE A VIEW HOW YOU ARE IN YOUR PHYSICAL FOURTH.

FIFTH SESSION HIGHER EDUCATION HOMEYS DR. FRED FLUENTEZ.

AFTERNOON 1:00, 1:00-3:00, MINICAREER AND REE -- RESOURCES SPONSORED BY DALLAS{CAPSLOCK} COLLEGE.

PLEASE STAY WITH US, DO NOT LEAVE US.

LAST COMMENTS BEFORE WE END THIS?

>> WE ASK EVERYBODY MOVE TO THE SECOND SET OF LINKS IN YOUR REPLY E-MAIL.

IF IT ASKS YOU FOR A PASS WORD.

IT IS 21SUMMIT.

THAT WILL ALLOW YOU INTO THE NEXT SESSION WE CAN BEGIN OUR BREAK OUTS WHICH WE ARE HEADING TO NOW.

>> THANK YOU ALL AGAIN.

>>TY.

>> THANK YOU DR. HILL FOR EVERYTHING.

WE WISH YOU NOTHING BUT MUCH SUCCESS AND PROSPERITY IN YOUR LIFE.

>> THANK YOU, BROTHER.

EVERYONE HAVE A GREAT DAY.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.